Thursday 14 June 2018

"You are a spoilt brat" - let's analyze that.

Hi guys, I love it when my articles provoke quite an argument in the comments section and sometimes the topic of discussion may move onto something else, thus inspiring me to write a new piece to address that other issue. In my last piece, I returned to the old theme of 'settlers vs maximizers' - the mindset of people who prefer to choose a simpler, more humble lifestyle vs those who are extremely ambitious and are hungry for more success. I did stumble upon a tricky issue - that is the way settlers sit very uncomfortably beside maximizers because, well, that's the very issue we will address in today's post. But let me begin with one of the phrases my mother was very fond of when scolding me as a child, she labeled me a 'spoilt brat' and I know what you're thinking - was I a spoilt brat? We have all seen plenty of Youtube videos of real spoilt brats throwing a tantrum in public - but was I one of them? No I wasn't far from it, not at all.
Well, allow me to tell you a bit more about my childhood. My parents were primary school teachers, we were not exactly poor but we weren't rich either - my parents were very careful with money. To illustrate this situation, I have fond memories of our old green sofa: my father had a very rich older brother and thus my uncle's damaged, second-hand sofa was still far nicer than anything we could afford to buy, so for years we used my uncle's sofa. My parents were ashamed of not being able to afford a better sofa. Of course, it was our secret, if I ever mentioned that it was a second-hand cast off, my parents would have been furious because it would have brought shame to the family. It was a strange situation to say the least for us as I knew my father's oldest brother was ridiculously rich, like he was a timber merchant who made millions every year and was even conferred the honorary title of 'Datuk' in Malaysia. Once I visited my uncle with my father when I was like 8 years old and whilst the two men were talking, I stumbled upon some of my uncle's holiday photographs - it was not like I was rifling through his drawers, they were literally just on the table and so I looked at them. My uncle was extremely rich and traveled all over the world for business (ironically, that's exactly what I do today) and I didn't say a word, but my facial expression was that of envy as I looked at the lovely photographs (yes this was years before we took photos on our phones - we used to take photos with a camera and than had real photographs to look at). I don't even think my uncle noticed me looking at those photos but my father got extremely angry when he caught me.

When we got home, my father accused me of being extremely rude and misbehaving, going through my uncle's personal things. I got one helluva beating for that and I didn't even know what I did wrong apart from looking at some photos which were already on a table. In hindsight, I know exactly what was going on - my father got jealous, it didn't help that my father was a humble primary school teacher who worked at the local primary school just a short walk from where we lived whilst my uncle was this multi-millionaire tycoon who was going on business trips all over the world. I was so well behaved I barely said a word in my uncle's house, but the way I looked at those photos must have made it clear to my father that I was fascinated by my uncle's life and my father couldn't deal with the fact that his own son had for that moment, felt that his uncle was a better man. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that my uncle probably earned 20 times what my father made, like we weren't that poor - it was just that my uncle was so insanely rich. It was not something my father would talk about with his children of course, but in hindsight it was obvious that he was insecure, bitter and extremely jealous of his brother. I was of course jealous of my cousins (my rich uncle's children), they had all the nicest clothes, expensive toys and could go on all these fancy holidays around the world. I figured out from a very young age that life wasn't fair - my cousins could have all these amazing things and I couldn't. I am embedding the video for "Papaoutai" (Papa where are you) below because it is a song that really captures the bitterness I feel towards my father - and of course it is in French, my second language given how I had turned my back on my dad's culture. If you can understand the lyrics, great and if not, the story is still told through dance and it is one of my favourite music videos.
So how did the label 'spoilt brat' come about? Well, my mother used that label to scold me when I was a kid, whenever I even talked about anything that was nice. Please, let me clarify: I most certainly wasn't the kind of kid who would ask my parents for expensive toys - quite simply because I knew I was never going to get it, my parents wouldn't spend that kind of money, so why bother asking if all you're going to get is a scolding and probably a beating to go with it? Let me give you an example, we are watching TV and we see an ad for Pizza Hut - so I make a remark like, 'oh that looks interesting' and that would be enough to make my mother angry. She would accuse me of being a spoilt brat, always making unreasonable demands on my parents to spend money on stupid things we don't need. It's not like we couldn't afford to go out for dinner, but my mother still had this 'working class with money' mentality, even if we weren't poor, she always felt that we should be very careful with our money just in case we ever became poor again hence even hinting that we should go to Pizza Hut was enough to warrant a scolding. My parents always accused me of being ungrateful for the things that I had been given as a child - but I honestly believe that this was misplaced. It wasn't that I was ungrateful, but I desired a better life for myself, I wanted to be in a position where I could take my family to a restaurant and say, "order anything you like, this is my treat" rather than be so worried about money you feel as if you can't even afford a pizza.

But of course, I was desiring for things my parents couldn't afford to provide me with on their humble teachers' salaries - for example, I read loads of atlases and encyclopedias as a child and I yearned to travel the world but that was simply not something that my parents could even begin to imagine. So when I was in primary school, my classmates would go to places like Australia, New Zealand, Japan and France on holiday whilst I had to be grateful I made it as far as Desaru. But then again, there was this other incident that taught me at an early age just how brutally unfair life actually is. Once during a Chinese lesson, a classmate asked the teacher how to write the word abalone in Chinese: 鲍鱼 and this kid in my class asked, "what's abalone?" At first we just thought that he must know only the Chinese word for it, but it turns out that this kid was so poor that eating abalone at Chinese new year was not something his family could afford, so he has never ever tasted abalone. There was this awkward moment when another clueless boy in the class said something like, "oh you must ask your mother to go buy some for you to eat, 鲍鱼 very nice one, 很好吃!" That was when the teacher, realizing what was going on, quickly told that clueless boy to shut up because it was clear that the majority of the class had simply taken eating abalone during Chinese new year for granted whilst for this one kid, through no fault of his own, it was just something his family could afford to do. That kid was born into a very poor family - so whose fault was that?
Oh it must be incredibly confusing for young kids to be confronted with such a situation whereby you simply can't have what your peers take for granted. Sure my parents were careful with money but even my father would always open a can of abalone during Chinese new year to celebrate as it was customary. There was always a classmate who had something your family just couldn't afford, but when I tried to ask my parents why I couldn't have that very same item that my classmate has, I was accused of being a demanding, ungrateful spoilt brat who had no right to ask for that item. So children like me were left to figure it out for ourselves, sometimes we gave in to our parents and actually believed that we were rotten kids who didn't deserve the same things that our peers got - whilst their parents showered them with shiny toys and expensive gifts, we got nothing but guilt from our parents for being so ungrateful. Well, the answer to this is very simple: how much you got as a child depended almost entirely on your parents' income. If you were lucky enough to have rich parents, then traveling to somewhere like America or Great Britain is something you can do on a regular basis rather than a once in a lifetime experience if you win a lucky draw. Yup, this is totally random and as unfair as it can get.

So if my parents were prepared to be totally honest with me, they would have said something like, "tough shit son, your parents are just humble primary school teachers, there's just no way you can expect us to buy you the kind of things that your uncle has managed to get for your cousins. Like he earns millions every year, probably every month whilst we have to give tuition just to make ends meet, so there's really no point in comparing as life is inherently unfair. You wanna be rich, well, then study hard, do well in school, go to a good university and maybe you can grow up to become like your uncle one day, so you won't be earning as little as a primary school teacher. Your uncle's a brilliant man, unfortunately we're not as smart as him, so whilst he can make millions running a highly profitable business, working as primary school teachers is just about all we can do and that's just the way it is going to have to be until you grow up, get a job and start earning your own money. But until then, perhaps the best thing to do is to accept things for what they are and be grateful for what we do have in life. Like you're naturally quite smart, you do well in school, that's the kind of thing that money can't buy - why not be grateful for the brains which you got from your parents eh? And you like sports so much, you're clearly good at gymnastics - why not be grateful for your natural ability in sports? You have so much to be grateful for."
Of course, my parents were never honest with me. They were deeply insecure, bitter and jealous - they would get really defensive and say things like, "what is wrong with being a teacher? We are so important, we work so hard and deserve the respect of everybody." You know, that kind of defensive talk. And if the issue of how much they earned every came up, they played the 'you're an ungrateful spoilt brat' card instead of having a rational conversation about why different adults in different professions earn different amounts of money. It's not rocket science: why is an Uber driver paid so little and a top brain surgeon paid so much? It is because of the barriers to entry: you need so little training to become an Uber driver whereas you need over ten years of training to become a brain surgery specialist - that can then lead to a sensible discussion about what the child wishes to do for a career and it can be a very rewarding discussion for the young person. But no, instead, my parents were just so insecure about how much (or little) they earned that they would shut that conversation down out of sheer fear that my father would be reminded that his big brother was a multi-millionaire timber merchant whilst he was just a humble primary school teacher and we had my uncle's old sofa in our living room. Talk about having the elephant in the room - this was the sofa in the room that nobody dared to talk about.
But here's the key problem with my parents' approach: they only saw things from their point of view. There was absolutely no attempt to try to understand what I experienced as a child at school in my interactions with other students. Of course my parents were trying their very best to provide for their children - they were school teachers with modest salaries, the money wasn't going to go that far with three children and hence there was often little left over for luxuries and treats. We weren't starving but we certainly not rich, well not like my rich uncle anyway. But look at it from my point of view for a moment: I went to school and saw other kids with rich parents who were able to buy them expensive toys, they lived in beautiful houses and traveled abroad regularly during the school holidays - I couldn't figure out why those rich kids 'deserved' all those nice things and I didn't. And when I even came close to asking for anything from my own parents, I was scolded and beaten for being a 'spoilt brat' - my parents would never admit that they were too poor to buy me those nice things that my classmates had, no. They would put the blame entirely on me and the message I got was that I was a rotten little shit who didn't deserve anything that the other good kids had. Because I told that because I was a 'spoilt brat', I was somehow morally deficient, I had let down my parents and thus that was the reason why others kids could have nice things, but I didn't deserve them. Now, is this the kind of message you want to give your young child?
Look, parents are usually pretty crap at a number of things such as talking to their children about sex and relationships, I've covered that a lot on my blog already. However, did it occur to you that many parents are also pretty shit at talking to their children about money? For my parents, it was just something they decided to make a taboo topic because of my father's uneasy relationship with his brother who was so much richer - talking about money made him upset so we just avoided the topic altogether. He wasn't emotionally mature enough to handle the situation, much less try to explain it to his children so as a consequence, I was pretty much left to figure all this out for myself with no help from my parents. I wonder if it is only rich parents who do talk about money openly with their children because for poorer parents, would they be as embarrassed as my parents when it comes to dealing with this topic? Would they be, for example, able to handle a question like, "why do you earn less money than my best friend's father? Why are they so much richer than us?" Well, children are curious and need answers but parents often have too much pride to admit the real reasons why they are not earning as much as the parents of their children's classmates at school. I think my father would be afraid of losing his credibility as the head of the family, therefore it was just a topic he chose to make taboo by beating us up should we ever try to talk about as kids. Heck, I have no problems talking about earning money on my blog, but guess what? I'm really quite rich like my late uncle, so my financial situation is a source of pride rather than embarrassment.

Is it impossible to explain difficult concepts to children? I don't think so - it is simply breaking it down in a way that children can learn about the issue, if you deem that children will never be able to understand and hence never bother to explain anything to them, then they will never learn. I roll my eyes when I hear Chinese parents say things like, "我们大人的事你不会明白" (you will not understand the issues for us adults) - no, it is not that children are too stupid to understand, but it's more a matter that the adult can't be bothered to explain or don't know how to explain it. The biggest irony of it all is that my parents were primary school teachers - it was their job to explain complex concepts to young children, to help them understand. In hindsight, it is pretty clear that they sucked as teachers as well because they couldn't do the one thing that primary school teachers were supposed to be able to do much better than anyone else. A good teacher should have enough empathy to try to see things from the child's point of view and help shape the explanation in a way that will be easily understood by the child.  Hey I work in corporate finance today, I don't talk to kids and I'm not sure I'll be any good at communicating difficult concepts to children - but surely a primary school teacher should be the kind of person who would know how to do something like that. Thankfully, I am able to reconcile all that and come to terms with what happened in the past; but I can't help but think about how much damage they have inflicted on my two sisters who have rarely ever questioned my parents' parenting methods. No - my two sisters are too Asian for their own good I'm afraid.
So there you go, that's it from me on this issue. What is your definition of a spoilt brat? Have you been labelled a spoilt brat when you were a child? Did you think that was a fair accusation or was it simply an excuse your parents used to deflect blame from their own shortcomings? How do you feel about spoilt brats though - do you blame the parents? After all, if the kids knew that throwing a tantrum would not get them what they wanted, they simply wouldn't try throwing tantrums - they would only use it as a tactic if they knew it worked. Children aren't that stupid, after all: it is time we hold parents to account instead. So let me know what you think, please do leave a comment below. Many thanks for reading.

19 comments:

  1. My father was very poor growing up since he was an orphan. He was very thrifty to the point of being miserly to his children when we were growing up. But the worse thing about not spending money on your kids is that he did allow us to spend our own money on stuff we wanted. Simple stuff like books and card games. If fact he forced us to "save" up all of our CNY ang baos but in the end i never saw any of it after i grew up. His theory was that his ex-wife took all of it away from us. But my hypothesis was that he either never saved it for us and just spent it for his own needs, or saved it but spent it when he urgently needed money. So my childhood was filled with lots of deception which is why i still don't trust my dad up to today.

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    1. Woah yes the same thing totally happened to me. I attribute my lack of a saving habit (when I started work the first few years) to this. There was no need to save any money if I could not use or access it in future. Your reference to deception is totally on point as it is the real problem and not so much of them taking our money.

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    2. @choaniki - I think that people whom I have classified as 'working class with money' have a very difficult relationship with money, especially if they have tasted real poverty when they were young. I am not trying to justify the way your father behaved, all I am saying is that my mother has the same mentality towards money and it is a huge source of frustration. It is scary that I catch myself sometimes thinking like her and I'm like no no no no, I must resist that mentality.

      @wildcard thankfully I don't have any money issues with my parents - I think I have far more of an issue with my sisters in our different attitudes towards our parents. You see in my sister's case, she declares that she is 100% happy and grateful for her upbringing and she has nothing to complain about - she keeps telling herself that despite the fact that she was brutally mistreated by my parents when she was a child and they damaged her so badly on so many levels. She thinks that me talking about the past would never change anything, it would only bring back painful memories - so she instead just declares, "it's fine, I'm happy, I am not complaining, I'm moving on". And I'm like, really? Are you really fine and happy with the situation? I doubt she is, but that's her way of coping and I don't think it's healthy.

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  2. I thought I was the only one whose father stole money. Discovered at age of 20+ that he stole my entire childhood savings of $20,000+. Quite a lot of money in the 90s. I suspect to feed his 4D habit. What really annoyed me was his non-apology apology when I confronted him. He said that he was “sorry” I felt that way about it. As if the issue was my response instead of the act of theft. He even made the situation worse when he tried to make me feel bad about it by a pathetic attempt at emotional blackmail. I now seldom talk to him because of the accumulation of other incidents that made me more and more disappointed with him. Helps that I immigrated to the USA 12 years ago when I could no longer stand my dysfunctional family dynamics.

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    1. Which is why I find 'Asian values' and Confucius culture so toxic. Like our parents can do no wrong just because they are our senior age wise. In Western countries I bet a child could make a police report if a parent steals their money and that parent would have to go to jail if found guilty.

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    2. Well JT, allow me to say that I am glad I have given you a platform to get this off your chest. I think it is awful in our Asian culture that we never ever get a chance to judge our parents for the mistakes they make, as if they are somehow beyond reproach when clearly, there are times when Asian parents can be deeply flawed and make awful mistakes.

      I did write a piece about gambling quite recently if I may direct you to it: http://limpehft.blogspot.com/2018/06/notes-why-do-some-people-like-to-gamble.html

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    3. @Choaniki, well, I think there are two issues here: there are Asian values which are flawed and then there are Asian parents who misinterpret Asian values and manipulate it to suit their purposes. Both are wrong of course, but they are two different issues. Take my mother for example: she is uneducated, she doesn't know shit about Chinese culture (or anything for that matter) but she did so many things in the name of 'Chinese culture' which she used to justify her decisions and in hindsight, it's strange looking back because she had such a shallow understanding of Chinese culture, a lot of those bad decisions she made were based on her own instincts, what she wanted to do, her ignorance, rather than Chinese culture per se.

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    4. @Choaniki Oh there are plenty of irresponsible parents that behave no better than children in the West just look at the list of child stars abuse cases in Hollywood so there's nothing unique about Asian values and Confucius values in that regard.

      I don't believe there's any thing in the Singapore legal code that prevents a child suing their parents (not a lawyer mind you) and there is a case in China for a child suing her parents for her angbao money and winning. Just generally less opportunities for a child to vastly out earn his/her parents. Good luck calling the cops on your parents if you're a child in the US, though you could sic child services on them. I would concede that there are more recourse in the West though, since you could apply for emancipation(US)


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    5. Hi Bay, I think the only difference is that in the West, we're far more ready to call a spade a spade and hold bad parents to account. Whereas in the East, sigh, children refuse to even criticize the worst parents around. It's kinda sad when I see that. It's like when you see a badly mistreated dog who is still loyal to its owner because well, it's a dog, it doesn't know better. Asian children are just like that sometimes. Culturally they are unable to criticize their parents.

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    6. Could it be a vicious cycle too? Parents do that to their kids who suffered in silence. When these kids become parents, they (consciously or subconsciously) do the same to their kids and the reasoning is I grew up like this. And the cycle does on and on... Probably perpetuated by the fact that culturally Asian children are unable to criticize their parents.

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    7. Not necessarily so. I think in my family, there were two reactions. I swore never to have children (and I have one childless sibling as well) just because I suffered so much as a child. And then I have one sister who wanted to be the complete opposite and be the best possible mother in the world, avoiding all the mistakes our mother made.

      But it suffices to say that none of us turned out like our parents.

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  3. Hi Limpeh. I did see the piece on gambling and i am familiar with some of the issues mentioned. What I find really hypocritical is that some Asian parents are especially critical of their kids but cannot stand even a drop of criticism when confronted. I used to think my childhood was normal but realized how dysfunctional it was when I grew up and interacted with other people as an adult.

    @Choaniki. It is not so simple to make a report when family members stab you in the back especially when emotional blackmail is involved. I suspect the statutes of limitations have passed and it happened in the early 2000s. I don’t reject all so called Asian values, just the ones I think are bs. For example, I don’t believe respect should be demanded but earned. Furthermore, it is not all Asian parents. My spouse is from a major city in China and I was envious of the way parents (city folks) treat their adult children. They support them all the way in starting their adult life, buying cars and houses for them, finding connections to help them with their job search. I don’t expect any support from my parents, would have been happy if my father did not take anything from me. My standard for disappointment is really low when it comes for my parents and they really fail. My so called mother disappointed me for other reasons which I will not elaborate.

    Anyway it was a blessing in disguise. The hurt and disappointment made me reject my parent’s way of life entirely. I looked for a way to escape and moved to USA in 2005 for a PhD (all expenses paid for by the university). I now have a house, tech job and family. Received an employer sponsored green card 3 years ago and I am waiting to be a us citizen. If I had accepted their way of life, I would be stuck in a stressful life, living in a 99 year leasehold time bomb with my retirement money trapped because of some arbitrary “minimum sum” limit.

    Still talk to my folks, only once or twice a year and it is like 5 to 10 minutes.

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    1. Oh I think it's pointless trying to talk to my folks. My dad is not interested in talking to me when I skype my sister, I can see him walk right past the screen and he doesn't even stop to say hi and I can't be bothered. My mum, sigh. Sometimes she sits down and my sister doesn't even know if she understands what I am saying, like is my Angmoh accent so hard to understand or what? My sister would repeat what I said slowly and clearly (in English mind you, not Hokkien) to my mother and tries to make sure my mum at least understands the gist of it.

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    2. My dad is similar as he also used to be a teacher. I think they can only function in a setting where people cannot challenge their simplistic thinking. School kids are ideal as they are forced to sit there and listen to the teacher’s so called “words of wisdom”. They would get frustrated easily if they have to deal with the real world full of skeptical adults. I would respect them more if they recognized their limitations. I call my parents fools not because of their ignorance but because they are not intellectually curious and refuse to learn about things. They are too set in their ways.

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    3. OMFG, you and I share sooooooo much in common because my parents are retired primary school teachers and you have hit the nail on the head. Scary!

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  4. That's why your blog resonate with me whenever you mentioned your parents. Mom was not a teacher but still shared many of the characteristics with Dad. I sometimes wonder if it is a generational thing because of all the commonalities. The problem with what I call one's "childhood family" is that incidents from the past still affect you from time to time even though it happened a long time ago. Even the act of living a separate\different life means in some way you are affected by them. Even now, whenever I interact with people, I would sometimes think of how they would react and try to do the opposite. Anyway, I am right now focusing on the family I built and trying hard to forget the past. :)

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    1. You're right JT, it is a generational thing. I was about to make a point about coming to peace with it on your terms (and not anybody's else's - this was important for me as I had two older siblings always telling me how I should come to terms with it and I had to respectfully stand up for my point of view). But I have written a post on it a while back and for what it's worth, here it is: http://limpehft.blogspot.com/2013/09/why-should-we-talk-about-it-cant-we.html

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  5. Hitting close to home. My sister scolded for me for making comments like "Ohhhh that cake looks nice" while we were walking pass a bakery. And she would say things on how poor we were and stuff like that etc etc

    Being a brain surgeon is no joke. It is really tough route which you need more than just brains to do. 😌 But still the practice of medicine is privilege and something I'll look forward to.

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    1. Of course that's completely unfair to you Dakota. If a cake looks nice, that means it probably is delicious. But to see it from your sister's perspective, she is justifying why you can't afford the expensive but nice cake. It is a coping mechanism that many people turn to when life gives them crap. My sister is just the same, no we can't have nice things in life cos we were poor - so instead she accuses the kids who get nice things from their richer parents of being spoilt brats.

      Being an adult gives me fresh perspective to look back on what I went through as a kid and understand why different people acted the way they did - it helps me make sense of the past.

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