Hi there guys, my attention has been drawn to a report on Sky News about how immigrants from Hong Kong who took advantage of the BNO route to move to the UK in the last year have been struggling with life in the UK. I read that article and found it very one-sided - it almost sounds like a piece written by the Chinese government in Beijing gloating about how these people are suffering in the UK after moving here and that they should have remained in Hong Kong regardless of the situation there. Even the headline was alarmist, warning of 'social conflict' and how these new arrivals struggled to find jobs, housing and school places. Is this merely click bait or pro-Beijing propaganda? As a British-Chinese immigrant who arrived in the UK 25 years ago from Singapore, I am in a good position to evaluate if some of these claims are justified or not. This article was written by British journalist Lisa Holland, so is this merely an example of bad journalism, or was Lisa Holland bribed by the powers in Beijing to depict such a bleak picture of the new migrants from Hong Kong?
Who said what about 'social conflict'?
The words 'social conflict' dominated this article - it was in the headlines and it was repeated several times in the article. However, upon close inspection, the only people who mentioned 'social conflict' were migrants from Hong Kong themselves who were worried that this influx of migrants from Hong Kong might cause tensions in some communities. Lisa Holland did not interview any white people who said racist things like, "we don't want these migrants from Hong Kong here and they can fuck off back to where they came from." Even the migrants who did raise this issue of 'social conflict' phrased it carefully in way to suggest that it was a worst case scenario: "If we do not contribute the resources evenly it means that the local people may be angry about maybe some of the resources being taken and that will have social conflict." Okay there is some bad English there, but the journalist's job is to capture the genuine voice of the subject rather than function as an English teacher but allow me to paraphrase that in a more articulate manner: the subject Mr Choi is concerned that if the new arrivals are not seen as hardworking, useful members of society who contribute to the good of society, they may be viewed as a burden who simply sponge off the state and this could lead to resentment amongst the local population. This is about the new arrivals being able to adjust to life in the UK, find good jobs that allows them to contribute to society and being able to successfully assimilate into British society here - this is most certainly not about white people being very racist, not at all yet that is still dangled as a worst case scenario which I think is an unfair portrayal of the situation. Whilst these new arrivals do fear 'social conflict', but have they faced any yet?
You're responsible for resolving any social conflicts that may come your way.
Thus 'social conflict' is not something that sweeps over a nation the way the Corona virus has but rather, it is something each individual has to navigate everyday - we need to take personal responsibility in all our relationships with our colleagues, our friends and our neighbours in order to avoid social conflict. The journalist didn't challenge Mr Choi on that point so I will: surely it is up to each individual migrant to make sure that they use their social skills to successfully assimilate in the UK, that is their personal responsibility and so I want to ask Mr Choi: whose responsibility is it to help each these migrants from Hong Kong find new jobs, new places to live and place their kids in good schools? Is it the government or the migrants themselves if they have chosen to move here? Perhaps I take such a tough stance on this issue because I'm Chinese and I'm from Singapore - I grew up in a society with no welfare state, no safety net. If you're unemployed, then you starve and you get no help from the government - the only thing you'll get from Singaporean society in that situation is judgment and condemnation, so you would be shamed into doubling your efforts to find a job quickly. This visa scheme was offered to migrants from Hong Kong to leave a country in political turmoil, but nobody promised them that the streets of London are paved with gold - indeed, each migrant has to face the challenge of finding a suitable job and that's exactly what I had to do all those years ago. Gosh, I did some terrible jobs just after I left university, I didn't get any help or favours but I took personal responsibility for myself. I wasn't going to play the race card.
Allow me to point out the obvious: a rich, highly skilled migrant from Hong Kong is highly unlikely to encounter 'social conflict' whilst a poor, unskilled migrant from Hong Kong is very likely to encounter it because it sucks to be poor in the UK. Duh, I'm stating the obvious here. Money can solve a lot of problems - the rich person can easily afford a nice place to live, get a great job because s/he is highly skilled and well educated and enroll their kids in the most exclusive (and painfully expensive) private schools in the country. Whereas the poor migrants may find themselves scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the housing market, struggling to find decent work as they are unskilled and their kids are going to be in the nastiest inner city schools. But what has changed? These poor migrants were probably struggling with housing back in Hong Kong as it is far more densely populated than the UK, they also struggled to make ends meet in Hong Kong as they had crap jobs there and their schooling situation for their kids were just as dire back in Hong Kong. Thus if a poor man moved his family from Hong Kong to the UK hoping for miracles to happen, well I must say that's simply a question of him having very unrealistic expectations. The same reasons that made this man poor in Hong Kong is going to keep him poor in the UK - there are already plenty of poor people in the UK so this may create a situation where the local poor working class who were born here may think, "we are already struggling, why is the government letting in more people from Hong Kong who might need help into this UK when some of us are not getting enough help?"
Is it really that hard to find a place to live in the UK?
Let's address the issue of the housing market here in the UK as this was discussed in the article: the people interviewed complained that a lack of credit history in the UK meant that some landlords asked for a rent in advance. Allow me to speak on the issue as a private landlord with a London property portfolio: this is fairly standard practice - we don't make the rules up as we go along. Rather, for someone like myself, I simply use the services of a professional estate agent who would handle all the paperwork (for a cut of the rent on top of a hefty fee) but in exchange, they simply take care of the entire process for me. I've had tenants from loads of different countries over the years including Iran, America, Italy, France, Taiwan, Denmark, Sweden, Malaysia and the UK. The properties I let out are not cheap, they are in central London and thus they tend to attract working professionals who have no qualms about putting down a sizable deposit in order to secure the place. If estate agents are asking for a year's rent as a deposit, then that figure is entirely dependent on how expensive the property is: so for a decent property in central London, that could be in the £25,000 to £50,000 range, which admittedly is not a small number but for rich people, that's nothing. But if you're willing to rent in somewhere like Hull, a year's rent is around £4,800 - it is a lot more affordable but of course, you get what you pay for. Let's be realistic: if you're poor and your budget is limited, then you need to settle for less rather than complain that you can't afford to live in the most expensive part of London, or even the lovely suburb of Sutton, which was featured in the article.
I wish to turn my attention now to the person 'Eric Wong' who was interviewed for the article, Eric left behind a successful business selling tea leaves in Hong Kong but it was then revealed that he doesn't speak English. That's when I did a double take - how's that even possible? Is Eric a very old man, in his 70s? I don't mean any disrespect to Eric but it is important to put these case studies in context. I wrote a post about how I befriended some gymnasts from Hong Kong at a competition back in 1996 and we had no issues communicating in English (since they didn't speak Mandarin and I barely speak any Cantonese). These gymnasts I met were teenagers so they were taught English at school. I was last in Hong Kong in 2018 when I had little difficulty communicating in English with most people, usually I would make a valiant effort to try to speak to the locals in Cantonese and they would usually reply in English (or sometimes with older people, Mandarin). I remember interacting with an older lady in a shop in Kowloon, I spoke to her in Cantonese and she replied in English, albeit with a strong accent but she was keen to demonstrate to me that she was confident enough to speak to me in English. I did encounter some older people in Hong Kong who were effectively monolingual and they spoke only Cantonese - no English, no Mandarin, nothing else but these tended to be older people who were doing menial labour. So I've no doubt that Eric Wong did have a business selling tea leaves in Hong Kong, but I wouldn't imagine him to be a highly educated, successful businessman - he is probably someone who simply wasn't that educated but managed to find a decent way to make a living in Hong Kong. Good luck to Eric, but it is probably going to be a real struggle for him.
Enoch's National Insurance blunder
And now we come to Enoch who came to the UK at the height of the pandemic, only to exhaust his savings and find himself homeless. He claimed, "landlords want proof of income and he couldn't get a National Insurance (NI) number to find work." For those of you not familiar with the UK system, your NI number is your personal tax ID number which you must submit to your employer when getting paid work. This is only issued to people who have the legal right to work in the UK, including people like Enoch of course. But he made it sound as if he was trapped in a catch-22 situation: he couldn't get his NI number because he couldn't find a place to rent as he couldn't prove he had a source of income, but to work he needed his NI number. Whilst you do require an address to apply for an NI number but this is merely for them to send you letters and other correspondences. You're not required to submit a a rental contract with your landlord for this purpose - I actually checked the website for the online application and you merely need to submit an address for them to send you letters. Thus hypothetically speaking, if Enoch came to me and said, "I need to put an address down on the application form just for them to send me a letter. Could I give them your address and when they send the letter, please let me know, so I can then come and get that letter with my NI number from you?" I would say yes and that would be the matter - quite easily solved. Is this a massive oversight on the part of Enoch that has prevented him from finding work? Even if we grant him the benefit of the doubt as someone new to the UK, unfamiliar with the process, didn't he try to seek any help or advice on the matter? Why didn't Lisa Holland (the journalist) try to tell him, "hey there's an easy fix for your NI situation: you can use my address on the application and then update the system when you find a new place to live."
I don't want to be unsympathetic - migrants getting confused by a new, unfamiliar system is actually quite common and can cause a great deal of stress. However, instead of pointing out Enoch's error and helping him find a solution to his NI number situation, Lisa Holland reported the story as if Enoch was somehow a victim of a bureaucratic system. I do acknowledge that Enoch has suffered a lot in his current situation but his suffering was due to his own misunderstanding of what he needed to do to obtain the NI number rather than any kind of mistreatment by the UK government. I believe a good journalist would use the story of Enoch to send a very important message to those in Hong Kong looking to take advantage of the BNO route to move over to the UK: check and double check the rules on all aspects of the process and if you're not completely sure, ask for help rather than trust your own judgment. But instead, Lisa Holland simply ignored the fact that Enoch had made a terrible blunder; either that or she simply didn't do her research on the NI number application process which took me no more than ten minutes since this information is all online on the relevant government websites. As a journalist, do you simply report Enoch's misunderstanding as your story in the article, at the risk of spreading misinformation and fake news? Or do you include some of your own research and include in your article what the actual process entails (thus revealing the terrible mistake that Enoch had made)? This is the challenge for the journalist when you interview an unreliable witness and Lisa Holland made a mess of the article because she had reported the statements of an unreliable witness as if it was fact: she's guilty of spreading fake news and misinformation.
Would you willfully spread fake news by interviewing an unreliable witness?
So allow me to present you with a hypothetical situation - imagine you're a journalist in London and you witness an altercation between a Chinese tourist and a shopkeeper. It seems that the Chinese tourist can't speak any English and is very upset; since you do speak his language, you ask him what happened. The angry Chinese tourist tells you that he wanted to buy something in the shop but when he tried to pay for the item, the shopkeeper was very racist and refused to serve him despite the fact that he had the cash ready to pay for the item. You then ask the shopkeeper for his side of the story and the shopkeeper said, "the Chinese man tried to pay me with a £50 note but I simply don't have the change for that especially if he was buying an item that only costs £2.20 - I don't have £47.80 in cash with me right now. Most people pay with card these days anyway so we don't often have that much cash in the shop. I tried to ask him to pay with card instead but he doesn't understand English and got very upset. I don't speak his language and there's been a terrible misunderstanding." So given that you now know both sides of the story, would you simply ignore the shopkeeper's side of the story and go with the headline "Chinese tourist encounters racist English shopkeeper and refused service in London store!" You could argue that the journalist's job is not to interfere with the outcome of the story but to merely report what happened, but only reporting one side of the story especially when you're aware of exactly what happened is just bad journalism that would totally mislead the reader into believing that this shopkeeper was indeed racist. Surely as a journalist, you have the duty to make sure you do not spread fake news by repeating the false claims of an unreliable witness whilst totally ignoring the other side of the story: hence that's the exact mistake that she has made in this article.
I want to challenge a statement made by one of those interviewed: "I think this is just wave one - these are the early adopters these are people with money and a bit more social agility and capacity to move quickly (...) So wave two I think is coming soon and a lot will depend on how wave one get on." I dispute the fact that wave two is dependent on how well wave one gets on in the UK, after all, how well you get on in the UK really depends on how highly educated and skilled you are as this would impact on your ability to find a good job here. Imagine if someone looked at my story and said, Alex moved to London years ago and now he's really successful working in investment banking earning a ton of money, I'll do the same thing and follow in his footsteps." If someone said that, I'll be like, do you actually know what I do for a living? I build relationships with non-English speaking clients because I speak 25 languages, 7 of them fluently - how many languages do you speak and how good are your social skills? Do you seriously think you can simply do what I do and enjoy the same success? I remember back in Singapore when I was a kid, I had a neighbour called 'Uncle Norman' who married a Canadian woman and moved to Vancouver. He struggled to make ends meet for a few years and then returned to Singapore after his marriage fell apart, but of course, Uncle Norman played the race card and blamed his failure in Canada on racism. Yeah but did I mention that uncle Norman was an uneducated idiot? I'm intelligent, he's stupid so I have the confidence that I can succeed because thankfully, I'm nothing like uncle Norman, not at all. My point is that you have to find your own path in life rather than blindly follow what others are doing. Do not evaluate your chances based on what others have done or how they have gotten on - you can't copy them nor should you try to do so.
But wait. Aren't there already plenty of Chinese people in the UK?
The fact is there are already 433,000 British-Chinese people resident in the UK but if you were to consider all Chinese people (say if you include Chinese-Singaporean expatriates here), then that number is much higher - the fact is Chinese people have been here in the UK for a long time and most of us have simply settled down, gotten good jobs and life here isn't bad at all for the Chinese people living in the UK. The statistics don't lie: according to a 2019 BBC report, Chinese and Indian people earn far more than white people in the UK. Oh yeah, Chinese people are on the very top of that list with Indians coming in a close second, whilst white British people earn on average 24.05% less than your average Chinese person according to that report. There's no smoke without fire - the Chinese (and other East Asians including Koreans, Japanese and Vietnamese) are often referred to as the model minority in the West - this is mostly because East Asians who move to the West have to meet very strict criteria to qualify for a work permit and so this system filters out any low-income poor East Asian people. Hence without the BNO visa scheme, people like Eric and Enoch would never be able to move to the UK under the old system as they would be simply be considered way too unskilled, unqualified and not highly educated enough to be worthy of a work permit. But the fact is for the well-educated, highly skilled Chinese people who are here already, they certainly have no problem becoming very successful and earning more than any other ethnic group. I do tick that box as one of these British-Chinese high earners working in investment banking thus there's the temptation to smirk and say, "if so many Chinese people like me can succeed in London, then you only have yourself to blame if you fail." This article ignored all the British-Chinese migrants who have been rather successful.
So in conclusion, we need a reality check.
Y'know, I was thinking its hard for a person to move to London even if they have a British passport. Imagine someone who grew up in a rough area like Newcastle or Middlesborough on minimum wage. They would hardly have enough money saved up to move to London or to put down a deposit for a much more expensive flat than what they were renting up North. But at least a local British person, even if they were quite poor, would already have an NI number.
ReplyDeleteAlso yeah it is hilarious a British reporter seems to be doing the work of CCP propaganda to paint the UK as bad for Chinese people. But I thought that could be just xenophobia in general. Countries don't mind welcoming rich, educated "expats", but they don't want to attract low-income and low-skilled migrants.
Aaaah I refer you to an article I wrote a while on the topic which you have read: https://limpehft.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-tale-of-two-johns-same-name-different.html It is tough to move to London because the cost of living is just so much higher - you're gonna spend so much more on rent, that leaves you with far less money for food, clothes, transport, entertainment, sports etc. Whereas up in Newcastle or Middlesborough, property is cheap so you have more money to spend on other things that will increase the quality of your life.
DeleteAnyone can get an NI number, it's so easy to get it. Back in the 1990s, I turned up at a designated registration point and said, "hi I'd like to apply for an NI number. I'm a full time student." I was just given a bunch of forms to fill in and the bored clerk said, "okay, it'll take a few weeks to process but we'll send it to you in the post." Nowadays, it's like 5 to 10 minutes filling up an online form. It's not rocket science. As long as you have the right to work in the UK, getting an NI number is so straightforward and easy. It is a legal requirement for all employers to ask for your NI number because a) it proves the employee has the legal right to work in the UK and b) that'll be used to track your income tax.
I think 'bad news' stories are click bait whilst 'good news' stories need to have that heartwarming factor to make you wanna click on it. You need something along the lines of Ukrainian girl in bomb shelter sings 'let it go' whilst her city is being blown to bits by Russian bombs to get clicks these days. Hence Hong Kong family moves to England and complains about the cold weather and food but are otherwise pretty alright - that's hardly click bait. The 'let it go' girl is now safely in Poland but people are just ignoring that and instead still sharing of her singing in that bomb shelter in Ukraine. So it's not political per se, it's not that Lisa Holland is a pro-Beijing journalist (or at least one bribed to present their POV), rather she is just desperate to create yet another click bait piece that will be shared a lot.
Hahaha that's true! The news is biased towards polarizing clickbait articles rather than painting a picture of "meh, the world is okay. Not good, not bad, just alright." I didn't hear about the girl singing let it go because I mostly read the new york times which covers more political and serious aspects of the war like Joe Biden's response. But I'll check it out.
DeleteI think there was a similar situation with the refugee crisis of 2015. A lot of migrants settled quickly in Germany going to university or starting apprenticeships, but the media had to focus on the negatives like higher crime, or the heartwarming stories of German families sheltering refugee families. But with Covid I think people actually like hearing "meh" stories in the news like Prince Harry and Meghan going on Oprah because we've been living in a horror movie for 2 years already. I don't live in the UK so this whole time I just assumed HK immigrants didn't have too many problems settling in the UK because the two countries have similar levels of development and income.
Absolutely, the follow up of "the girl singing in the bomb shelter is now safe in Poland" didn't get shared half as much as the original video because of the nature of what we click on. If you're curious just google "Ukrainian girl sings Let It Go in bomb shelter". A lot of the Hong Kong migrants settling here are neither super successful like, "I came here with no more than £10 in my pocket and now I own a business worth £10 million." Nor are they so desperate that they end up destitute and homeless (like Enoch who thought he couldn't work but in reality he messed up his NI application process, duh). Most of life is just meh. My day was meh, I didn't sleep too well, had a slow start to the day, I wasn't that productive but I got some work done. Then I tried to take a nap in the office when I thought I was alone but my colleague woke me up when he came back to charge his phone. Then I went to the supermarket after work on my way home - life is meh. But I posted a short video of cherry blossoms in full bloom on Instagram and people may think, "oh life in London must be super exciting and fun now it is spring!" But no, life is mostly meh, most of the time.
DeleteAs for HK migrants settling in, it really depends on the individual. Every individual is unique and a lot depends on their social skills, education, life experiences and ability to adapt to new circumstances.
Hahaha yup life is mostly meh! It's not all drama days or amazing days. Yesterday I took the day off because I slept horribly and felt tired during the day, but I had gymnastics later at night and already worked on the weekend (both days), so I took a 3 hour nap and watched some Disney+ before going to gymnastics fully rested. Mostly a meh day but I did like going to gymnastics, since I skipped 3 weeks of it because of a busy research month. The news and even TV and movies makes every day seem dramatic. But if life wasn't so "meh" we wouldn't turn to the news for entertainment. Actually people say the news is most accurate when it is "meh", like the BBC or Aljazeera or NPR. Here in the US news channels like CNN and Fox News are very dramatic to the point of being a little inaccurate and overly polarizing, but hey they're more profitable than NPR and BBC which probably can't survive without being subsidized by the government.
DeleteOh yeah today was more productive but then I had to wait for my COO to find time to speak to me about a client's request and he had a lot of shit to deal with today, so most of my afternoon was spent just passing the time waiting for him to be available. But there you go, when I was bored in the office, I open the BBC news website as it's not like I'm looking at funny cat videos on Youtube in the middle of a busy office - I tend to wanna read exciting stories and not meh stories, so journalists know that people who are bored and having a meh day tend to look for click bait type stories to read. That's why I was skeptical of the tone that Lisa Holland had taken in this article about migrants from HK.
DeleteLol that sounds like a typical day. Just waiting around for meetings, not everything going to plan but nothing bad happening either. Today I had to run some simulations, but they were very time consuming and would take 20+ minutes each to finish, so during that "dead-time" I just watched youtube or even took a walk at a nearby park. Despite the click-baity-ness of Lisa Holland's article, I just hope nobody from Hong Kong takes it that seriously. Moving to the UK could be good, could be bad, but the UK is not filled with so many racists that its impossible for any Asian to move there and be successful. By the way, is Sky news taken seriously in the UK? I know some publications aren't, like the Daily Mail for example. I only read the Mirror for football commentary, but when I see articles about "Love island" popping up in my sidebar I dunno if I should take it as seriously haha.
DeleteHi Amanda, as for the status of Sky News, they have a TV news channel which is quite widely watched and the content of their news channel is slightly right wing but not quite right wing by American standards. What we consider 'slightly right wing' in the UK is very left wing by American standards. This gap in the market has been spotted and there's a new channel called GB News but they're so trashy and trying to be offensive that they simply create material for the comedians to make fun of on other TV shows. So whilst Sky doesn't quite have the status of the BBC, some people do consume it from time to time. And yes you're right about the status of the newspapers, but in this day and age, most people consume their news online rather than buy a paper copy of the newspaper.
DeleteThe CNA documentary on the couple, Ah Man and Fiona had me cringing and laughing at the same time. Poor Fiona had to be a mom to 3 kids while Ah Man comments on how he "rather" be a beggar in the UK than an emperor in HK - which is ridiculous because he was a mere bus driver to begin with. And he doesn't even make the effort to learn English unlike his wife.
ReplyDeleteThey face huge challenges in the UK not because the UK is such a horrible place, but they don't speak English well and whose fault is that? The fact is there is a huge contrast between Singaporeans and HKers, most Singaporeans have a much better grasp of English because of the education system whereby everything is conducted in English whereas in HK, many kids are still taught subjects like maths and science in Cantonese rather than English. Some schools have also started doing some teaching in Mandarin as HK integrates with China, to make sure that the next generation of HKers can speak Mandarin but otherwise, the standard of English in HK is generally much lower than in Singapore. And goodness me, they moved to Crewe, what a dump. But it is a lot cheaper in places like Crewe than in London or bigger cities like Manchester or Edinburgh. Sometimes I have to change trains at Crewe station when I am traveling back from Scotland and sometimes, I have a longer wait for my connecting train - so I get to leave the station, go and get something to eat and come back for my connecting train down to London. It is a pretty depressing place but newsflash: the streets of towns like Crewe are not paved with gold. The locals are poor but they get by. Ah Man and Fiona are probably going to get by, just like the rest of the locals there. I roll my eyes when he refuses to learn English because people like that do exist, my father is one of them and it has gotten to that point in his life when it is just ridiculous. You know he can get lost in Singapore because all the signs are in English and not Chinese? Go figure. And it's not even like he was born in China, he was born in Malaysia for crying out aloud.
DeleteI have just watched part 2 and good grief, things are not going well for Ah Man and Fiona but it's not that I wanna be insensitive or cruel but they messed up their application for the visa. I just rolled my eyes, how can you mess up something so important? You need to show that you have enough money to support yourself for 6 months in order to get your BNO residency visa - they arrived in the UK, spent a lot of money to settle in and then 3 months later, they realized whoops we fucked up on the visa application process so we have to reapply but now we don't have enough money to qualify for this visa. I really feel bad for Fiona as Ah Man seems like such a loser and she deserves better.
DeleteExactly my thoughts. I cringed so hard when Ah Man started complaining about the house.
DeleteAre you a millionaire Ah Man??? If you want a bigger house please come out with the money for the bigger house.
Well Ah Man has to understand that there's a trade off between location and price - you can always get a bigger house by picking either a worse neighbourhood (ie. crime ridden, drug dealers on every street corner, unsafe wrong part of town) or simply by moving out to the middle of nowhere (where your nearest supermarket is a 30 minute drive away and your kids have to travel over an hour to get to school in the morning oh but there are no buses in the middle of nowhere so you have to drive them). Neither of those options are palatable of course, especially for his kids and wife. They want to live in a safe and decent neighbourhood where there are decent local facilities and amenities. Just to give you an idea, if you want a 3 bedroom flat in London, you can get a big 3 bedroom flat in a bad neighbourhood for around £500,000 but in a good neighbourhood, that can be in the £1.2 m to £1.5 m range. The quality of the neighbourhood can have a massive impact on the price you pay to buy or rent. Ah Man wants to live in a big house yet the only work he can get is a food delivery driver because he can't speak English - his expectations are totally unrealistic. You wanna do a job earning peanuts and live like a king?
DeleteAnd the story is not finished yet: akan datang part 3 on CNA!
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