Thursday 16 February 2017

Dealing with bullying in NS.

Hello everyone. I recently had quite an interesting question from a young reader who has yet to serve NS - he had expressed shock at the way I had discussed bullying in NS as if yeah, it happens a lot. He thought that in a strict environment like that, bullying would be downright illegal and there would be consequences for those who were bullies. He then asked me what he could do if he found himself being bullied when he served NS. Well, I have actually blogged a lot about both bullying and the NS experience - so in today's blog post, I am going to talk about bullying in NS. Once again, I stress, I'm here to talk about the wider topic, rather than just about myself - I am however, going to expand the discussion to beyond bullying in NS as I have also observed a lot of similar kinds of bullying in the working world.
What if you are bullied during NS?

Firstly, why is there bullying in NS in the first place? The answer is actually remarkably simple when you look at the formula. The age of enlistment in Singapore is 18 and so all soldiers are at least 18 when they start NS - by that token, no one is a child. You are expected to behave and function like an adult when in NS, it is considered an important part of growing up for the men in Singapore for it is often the first time in their lives they are being treated like adults as opposed to children in the schools where they have just come from prior to enlistment. Now this can be a huge culture shock for many enlistees who do not have the emotional maturity to function like adults at the age of 18 - a lot of that depends on their upbringing: if they have good parents who have prepared them in advance for the NS experience, then they wouldn't struggle that much to function as adults. This can happen in the working world too. 

So what you have is very much a 'Lord of the Flies' situation - in the book, a group of British schoolboys found themselves stranded on a remote island after a plane crash. They then try to govern themselves on the island but were unable to remain rational and reasonable, instead giving in to feral and warlike behaviour, turning on each other. In what seems like a consequence free environment, far away from any adult, the consequences were tragic and disastrous. In NS, there are situations where you have a 19 year old in charge of a group of 18 years olds and wielding actually quite a lot of power over them: the 19 year old is placed in charge because he has been in NS longer and has supposedly attended the right courses to obtain the necessarily rank to do that job, but how much more mature is he compared to the 18 year olds he is in charge of? I have witnessed cases where the slightly older soldier of slightly higher rank lacks the kind of basic human decency to act in a reasonable manner and goes out of his way to be as abusive as possible, to be the worst possible bully, knowing that he will get away with such behaviour. What? I hear you asking, this is not the Lord of the Flies! There are rules in the SAF and more to the point, there are older, responsible adults around to keep lower and middle ranking personnel in check, so they don't go power-crazy with the recruits, right? The truth is somewhere in between the two, welcome to the real world with the many shades of grey.
Case Study One: 3SG Pui has an axe to grind

During my BMT, I found out that this sergeant (let's call him 3SG Pui as he's kinda fat) had messed up his A levels really badly and couldn't get into NUS - he had a real chip on his shoulders as a result because he knew that he would not get the degree he had wanted. He didn't consider himself stupid or inferior in any way to his peers, merely someone who had been very unlucky by performing badly at his exams. Come on, haven't we all messed up a test or exam before, right? 3SG Pui came from a poor family, so studying abroad was simply not an option for him. However, that meant that 3SG Pui had a grudge against any soldier from the A level intake and if you're from a top 5 JC (and if you're rich at the same time), you best keep your distance from him for he will assume that you have good results and thus would go out of his way to make your life miserable. If you were from a poly or had only O levels, he would leave you alone. I'm not trying to defend Pui for a moment here - he was unhinged and definitely mentally unstable.

Would bullying someone with good A level results change anything for him? Of course it wouldn't, but he was angry with the system, he felt he had an extremely bad deal after having worked very hard as a student. Most of the A level recruits had a simple mantra in NS, keep your head down, keep your mouth shut, get through NS peacefully because you have university to look forward to. 3SG Pui didn't have that luxury and he gave in to petty jealousy. I was very lucky in that someone had warned me about him and thanks to my late grandmother, I spoke Hokkien fluently. So when I knew I was going to go anywhere near him, I switched to Hokkien and Mandarin, to avoid his attention because I knew he would single out the A level scholars from the way they spoke English fluently. Should someone as messed up, immature and irrational like 3SG Pui have been put in any position of responsibility? Of course not. But 3SG Pui picked on those who were of inferior rank to him, he was smart enough to be polite and respectful to those of superior rank to him, so none of his superiors suspected that he was a nasty bully. The whole situation was a terrible mess.
The odds had been stacked against Pui.

But wait, didn't anyone make a complaint against 3SG Pui for his behaviour? The answer is yes, someone actually did make a complaint but it backfired. This guy, let's call him Norman because he was from NJC. Norman is a typical A level kid from a good JC, his parents were fairly wealthy and made sure he never had to lift a finger at home to even wash a cup, just so he could have every spare moment to focus on his studies. He wasn't a bad person, just someone who was somewhat clueless about adapting to this new environment and had a big mouth. Not in a bad way, he spoke English with a hint of an American accent like Amos Yee, he loved talking about going to university and that got the attention of 3SG Pui. So for example, during area cleaning, 3SG Pui would go out of his way to find fault with Norman by deliberately leaving dirt in areas that Norman was supposed to have cleaned. There was nothing wrong with Norman's ability to clean - it doesn't take a genius to operate a broom or a mop, but 3SG Pui went out of his way to create the impression that Norman was a spoilt brat with an attitude problem, that he was too important to do area cleaning. He threatened Norman with weekend guard duties to infinity and poor Norman finally snapped.

You see, 3SG Pui's justitication for punishing Norman was his "attitude problem" when really Norman had done nothing wrong,  his only crime was not doing the 'keep your head down and mouth shut' protocol. So Norman went to a senior officer, let's call him Major Lau because he is old and made an official complaint, claiming that he was being bullied by 3SG Pui. This came as a complete surprise to MAJ Lau as 3SG Pui had given him a very good impression thus far, but he promised to investigate and he went to question 3SG Pui. Well, 3SG Pui knew he had a compelling story: he claimed that Norman was a spoilt brat who had never washed a plate in his life before, that Norman needed a taste of hardship to help him understand the rule of law in the military, that all these punishments was actually exactly what Norman needed before he got himself into big trouble. 3SG Pui convinced MAJ Lau that if Norman wasn't punished, then he would become a big troublemaker in the future. There is an attitude in the SAF: if you spot a potential troublemaker, you nip that in the bud before you allow that person to cause you any trouble. That is a principle which is fine when dealing with genuine trouble makers - but 3SG Pui manipulated MAJ Lau into using it against Norman when really, he hadn't done anything wrong apart from talking about going to university within earshot of 3SG Pui.
Pui was in the wrong, but what could Norman do?

MAJ Lau decided to give 3SG Pui the benefit of the doubt and Norman realized the hard way that he had accidentally offended the wrong person. The consequences were dire - I suppose 3SG Pui knew that Norman would probably go on to have a much rosier, easier adult life with his wealth, privilege and degree, so whilst the tables were turned, he could go out of his way to vent all his frustrations on Norman - the guy who has everything 3SG Pui never had and could never have. Norman's spirit was completely broken as a result of the relentless bullying and punishment that 3SG Pui inflicted on him. The irony of it all was that MAJ Lau was to all intents and purposes a perfectly decent man who didn't condone bullying, he was simply fooled and manipulated by 3SG Pui. The rest of us who witnessed what happened learnt an important lesson. It was truly a 杀一警百 situation: we knew that nothing good could ever come out of complaining and that the only self-defence mechanism we had against bullying were our social skills to blend in, fit in and keep a very low-profile. Let's look at another case study which I had touched upon in previous posts.

Case study 2: Sam vs the system

Let's call this guy Sam as he was some Singapore Polytechnic, bright guy and when you first meet him, there was nothing unpleasant or objectionable about him. However  Sam didn't like the idea of having to serve NS - he felt that it was a waste of time and because he wasn't put in a high ranking position with a lot of important responsibilities, in his own words, he felt it was a case of "大才小用" (literally: a small use of a big talent - you get the idea). His vocation mainly involved quite mundane tasks and he got very bored quickly. He grew more and more cynical by the day and reacted by trying to do as little as possible - so for example, if the commanding officer announced a major operation that would involve everyone working very hard for long hours in the following days, you could be sure that Sam would suddenly come down with some kind of mysterious illness that would require him to take MC for at least two days. I remember once when some furniture was delivered to the unit and everyone was asked to help unload the furniture, Sam suddenly developed a stomachache and needed to go to the toilet where he stayed for the next half an hour.
Sam tried to do as little as possible.

Don't get me wrong - Sam had nothing against the rest of the soldiers around him, he simply had an axe to grind with the system. I have actually sat down with Sam and had long conversations before, he had come across as a rather interesting and pleasant person when you got to know him. He was well read, articulate and very well traveled.  But for him, "cheating the system" by doing as little work as possible became an obsession for him as he hated the system more and more by the day. What he didn't realize was the effect his behaviour was having on the rest of us - team work is essential in the army. If he didn't help unload the furniture from the truck, then the rest of us would have to work longer and harder to get the task done without his help. We were the ones who were "punished" by having to shoulder the burden each time he tried to "dodge the bullet". That made Sam extremely unpopular amongst the rest of the soldiers in the unit but incredibly enough, he was totally oblivious to the situation that had developed.

Sam didn't understand why anyone would want to bear a grudge against him - after all, weren't we all in the same boat? Weren't we all being treated somewhat unfairly by the system? Why didn't the rest of us share his disdain for the system? What Sam failed to see was the fact that he only managed to get away with the things he did because the rest of us were (grudgingly) willing to cover for him when he disappeared on us. You can subject a group of soldiers to the same experience of working together in the same unit, but because our emotional responses to the experience were so different, that prevented Sam from bonding with the rest of us who were more resigned to the fact that work had to be done whether we liked it or not. Some of the guys decided they have had it with Sam's bad attitude and confronted him - but each time, Sam would deny that he was deliberately trying to "dodge the bullet" and claimed that he was genuinely in poor health. Unfortunately, he couldn't be reasoned with and that was when the bullying started.
Sam failed to bond with his fellow soldiers.

So each time Sam tried to skive off, something would happen to his personal belongings - for example, we did our own laundry in camp and would hang them out to dry. His clothes would be deliberately moved, like they would be flung into the bushes or into the drain. Sometimes he would awake in the morning to find that someone has left disgusting wet rags in his boots, so he would be forced to wear wet boots all day. Other little things like his food and drink items would go missing - it was all engineered to send Sam a message that people around him hated him, that he would have to watch his back. Sam was clearly a victim of a concerted bullying effort, but there was also a conspiracy of silence against him. So when Sam raised an official complaint, a senior officer was obliged to investigate so we were all questioned. Like everyone else, I knew exactly what was going on and who was responsible for the "bullying", but as I bore a grudge against Sam for his bad attitude, I chose to say nothing. "I don't know anything sir, sorry. I really wasn't aware of anything like that going on with Sam. I'm not involved and even if something did happen, I have no idea who is involved." Nobody had anything to gain by being a snitch - Sam had found himself alone with no allies at all.

The officer got absolutely nothing out of the men and in the absence of evidence, the officer was unable to take any action against anyone but he knew what was going on. He took Sam aside and said, "look if you want this bullying business to stop, the power is in your hands - just change your attitude and I promise you the guys will stop doing this to you. You need to change your attitude, okay?" Unfortunately, Sam couldn't see sense - he was suffering from tunnel vision and had already seen himself as a victim who deserved protection, rather than someone who had brought all this upon himself. He saw the officer's refusal or inability to help him as yet another reason to try to 'get back' at the system by skiving even more - which led to a downward spiral of more bullying, he would make more complaints and eventually, the officer was obliged to transfer Sam to another unit where he would be someone else's problem.
Nobody knew what to do about Sam.

So if we compare the cases of Sam and Norman - in both cases, both guys paid a very high price for failing to adjust to their new environment and it seems they were behaving as if they were still in JC/poly, oblivious to the fact that they are now in the army. I do see one thing in common in both cases though - both Sam and Norman were unable to see things from their bullies' point of view and were oblivious to why they were being bullied. Both thought they were innocent victims and that mindset blinded them to some rather obvious solutions for their problems. I could go on giving you plenty of other examples of bullying, but I think these two case studies illustrate you can be bullied either by someone of a similar rank or by a senior rank. The only kind of protection that the rank system offers is bullying from those of inferior/lower rank. So, with this in mind, what can you do to try to save yourself from bullying in the army?

1. Ask someone, "why is this happening?"

That's one thing that neither Norman nor Sam did once - it may have seemed painfully obvious; when you don't know what is going on, ask for help. Get hold of some information. But this is when they remind me of my own parents: once my parents have one version of events in their head, they hardly ever change their opinions even when they then encounter evidence that proves their initial impression to be inaccurate or incorrect. You can call that stubbornness or stupidity. Intelligent people will always be happy to ask for help, only stupid people think they are smart enough to never need any help from anyone else even when they are in deep trouble. Perhaps I am stating the obvious, but Norman and Sam never once asked for help from me - I could have easily explained to them what was going on. I had little incentive to try to help them understand what was going on - you can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink. I wasn't sure that they would even want to listen to me anyway if I had tried to tell them what was going on.
"Can you tell me why this is happening?"

2. Try to see things from the bully's point of view.

In the case of 3SG Pui, it was obvious why he singled out Norman - Norman had flaunted his wealth and had boasted about his A level results. It triggered off jealousy and anger in 3SG Pui, once again, I could see exactly what was going on. Let's put ourselves in Pui's shoes for a moment - imagine this: he comes from a poor family, the odds are stacked against him all his life. He thinks he has every chance to make it to NUS if he works hard then he is unlucky enough to mess up his A level exams so badly he can't get into the course he wanted. A rich kid in that position will merely go abroad to pursue the same course in another university in somewhere like the UK or the USA, but Pui doesn't have that luxury - his family was poor. He was contemplating retaking his A levels whilst serving NS but trying to find the time to study and revise is simply impossible whilst having so many responsibilities. He was intensely frustrated and the last thing he needs right now was someone like Norman to remind him how dire his situation is. Norman has a bright future to look forward to, Pui doesn't. Pui was probably resentful at the way life turned out to be incredibly unfair.

Explaining all that doesn't justify Pui venting his frustrations on Norman of course, but with all that in mind, once I found out this piece of information, I knew how to behave in front of Pui so as not to push the wrong buttons with him. I figured out why Pui was picking on Norman and so with that information, I knew how to avoid antagonizing Pui. Let me give you an analogy: if you see a snake, the common advice given is to keep still as snakes have very poor eyesight. You do not approach the snake and you most definitely should not provoke the snake in any way. When safe to do so, you back away and leave the snake alone. You need to have some knowledge about snakes if you are to keep yourself safe when you encounter a snake - it doesn't mean you have to like snakes especially if you know they are dangerous and have good reason to be afraid of them. But if you knew you lived in an area where snakes are present, wouldn't you at least want to know how to deal with them safely? By that token, I'm not asking you to like Pui or feel sorry for him - on the contrary, I'm just asking you know learn how to handle him safely, like a very poisonous snake.
3. Stop seeking justice/revenge, start solving problems.

There are times in life when you need to know when you simply can't fix something that has gone wrong. In the case of Pui, yes what he is doing is completely wrong - bullying Norman isn't going to fix the problems in his life. But is there anything one can do about the situation? Probably not because it is really up to Pui to find his own solution to his difficult situation and where Norman went wrong was that he was hell bent on revenge: he felt strongly that Pui was in the wrong and he thought that the system wouldn't tolerate Pui's behaviour - that's why he made a complaint about Pui, because he was seeking both justice and revenge. However, it only made things a lot worse and did nothing to solve his problems. I did suggest to Norman that complaining about Pui may make things far worse but his reply was, "but we can't let him get away with this!" Oh dear. I was going to make useful suggestions as to how Norman could have handled the situation better - but it would have meant bowing to Pui's authority and effectively letting him get away with something very wrong. Ah well, sometimes in life, you just can't get what you want unfortunately.

4. Find allies you can rely on.

Oh this is so important: allies can provide a very valuable source of emotional support when things get really tough. Notice that I use the word allies rather than friends - therein lies an important difference. Anyone who has watched the reality TV programme Survivor will understand exactly what I mean: you're thrown in a situation where you have to live and work with a bunch of people and whether you like them or not, you need to get them to like you. In Survivor, in every episode, someone will get voted off the show at Tribal Council and in order to survive, you have to get the people around you to like you enough to vote for someone else. So you often find a situation where you have an 'unholy alliance' whereby two unlikely people choose to work together despite not apparently liking each other, but they may both hate the same person and want to vote that person out next, so they default to the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" principle and form an alliance not so much on any notion of a friendship, but rather, a common goal.
You see, some people simply don't grasp the concept of an 'ally' as opposed to a friend - a friend is someone you genuinely like, an 'ally' is someone you may or may not like, but you've convinced them that it is in their best interest to be supportive of you. Human relationships can be extremely complex - let's not think in absolute terms like "friend" vs "enemy" or "stranger" - trust me, I have seen people drive themselves mad trying to be everyone's friend, trying so hard to please everyone and they are just setting themselves up to fail because you're trying too hard to be popular that way. That's not the kind of popularity contest anyone can win because you are forcing yourself to befriend everyone whom you happen to have to work with, removing any element of choice. Creating the category of 'ally' allows you to dislike the person whilst creating the kind of working relationship you need with them to make your everyday life easier. Thinking back, I had a lot more 'allies' then 'friends in my NS days - that worked well for me.

5. Find a senior figure you can relate to.

This may be hard, but it is good training for the kind of office politics you will inevitably face in your working life. There will be officers in your unit, pick one you like - or at least pick one you loathe the least and try to find a way to bond with that officer. Let me give you an example: I knew there was one officer who was a Christian and I deliberately asked him about his church, I knew exactly what buttons to push to make him respond in a way that would give the others around the impression that we were friendly. Oh I don't think we were friendly at all but I knew somehow, Christians often feel the need to spread the gospel, invite people to their church, tell people about Jesus etc - if you have been brought up as a Christian, it becomes second nature. So I would ask him questions like, "Sir, in your church, what kind of bible study sessions are there? Is it in a small group or a large group? Who would be the teacher in these bible study sessions? How long is the study session? What are the kinds of issues you explore in those sessions?" I wasn't the least bit interested in going to his church, not at all! I just wanted everyone to see us talking in a friendly way.
Sir may I ask you a question please?

In being seen to be friendly with a much more senior officer, it sent out the message that I was not to be messed with because I had friends in high places. I did this with quite a few officers - there was an older 2WO lady officer who was vegetarian and I told her that I want to become vegetarian like her, I asked her for advice on how to have a balanced diet whilst avoiding meat. All you have to do is find out something that officer is very interested in, a topic that means a lot to that officer and ask that officer questions about that topic. Heck, if someone came up to me and asked me a question like, "hey I wanna learn gymnastics, but is it too late for me to try as an adult? Is it only for kids?" As it is a topic that I'm obsessed with, you wouldn't be able to shut me up. Sure  it would be ideal if you could genuinely bond with that officer and form a genuine friendship - but don't count on that, if it doesn't happen, then you can at least convince others around you that you have some kind of friendship with that officer and you will still enjoy the desired effect of that: people will think twice before bullying you and they will pick another target instead of you for bullying.

6. Keep your head down and your mouth shut.

Oh it's the golden rule of NS: keep your head down and your mouth shut when it matters. Don't try too hard or else you will draw attention to yourself - let me give you an example. There was this guy, let's call him Ben - now Ben's your typical jiat-kentang JC kid who struggled with Chinese and his Mandarin sucks. Yet when he was in NS, he made a genuine effort to try to blend in and be everyone's best friend, including with those Mandarin/Hokkien soldiers who had little in common with him. Nonetheless, Ben tried his best in his funny Mandarin and in so doing, drew attention to the fact that he was quite different from the rest - the fact that he couldn't really speak Mandarin points to the fact that he moved in totally different social circles and had nothing in common with the rest of the guys. The harder he tried, the more the other guys rejected him and that led to some of them being quite nasty to him. Ben simply lacked the emotional intelligence to make friends easily. If only Ben kept a lower profile and didn't try so hard! If you are different from everyone else in whatever way, then the last thing you want to do is to draw attention to yourself by doing what Ben did. The penalty for drawing attention to yourself is far worse than being the quiet one who keeps to himself.
It is not a popularity contest, remember.

7. Focus on the long term, not the present

NS really isn't forever, even though when you are serving NS, there are times when it does feel that way. I served 2 years 4 months back in the day, now the maximum is just 2 years. I have worked longer in most companies I have worked for over the years and believe me when I tell you that I can look back in hindsight and honestly say that 2 years really isn't that long a time. The time will pass quickly enough. When things do get hard, do not dwell on the problems that lie before you, think about the things that you'd like to do with your life after you finish NS. Start making long term plans about your further education and training that you can embark on once you are a civilian again, with those plans in place, you are giving yourself something exciting to look forward to once you finish NS and that will serve as extra motivation for you to get through the difficult times. Do not just think about what you're doing next week, think about what you'd like to be doing 5 years from now and start making plans for it to happen right now.

8. Acceptance vs denial: life just isn't fair

Oh I have seen a lot of people waste a lot of time brooding over the hand they have been dealt in life, especially when something bad happens, they go into denial and start arguing that "but it isn't fair". Loads of bad shit happen to good people through no fault of their own, it happens. Such is life I'm afraid. Norman encountering someone like Pui is simply one of those things - it was sheer bad luck on Norman's part that their paths crossed. The more time you waste on being in denial, the further you are from trying to find a practical solution to your problem. Think about people who get a bombshell like a cancer diagnosis: many do fall into a denial-slump whereby they go, "this can't be happening, I am not a smoker, I am not overweight, this is not fair etc" and they essentially feel sorry for themselves whilst in that state. Likewise, you'll be amazed at the number of soldiers who go, "this can't be happening, the army shouldn't be done like this, there's something wrong with the system etc". Instead of refusing to accept the circumstances they have found themselves in, the only default response really is to say, "okay, this shit is real, I accept that it is happening",
9. Put on a brave face - wear your poker face.

What do bullies want? They want to know that they have power over their victims, that they have the ability to make their victims feel like shit. The more you show weakness, the more they enjoy bullying you. Par contre, if you show that you are able to laugh it off, if they simply are unable to upset you the way they want to, then one quite logical outcome is that they will move on to find a different victim - one who will give them the satisfaction of victory. One needs to understand the mentality of bullies: they are looking to score a quick win, they like the sensation of having power over their victims - they are not looking to pick a fight with someone who is going to give as good as they get. Now in the army, you can't exactly fight back when the bully is of a higher rank but the least you can do is to keep a poker face and hide your emotions even if you're angry or upset. The poker face is thus always the best default response.
10. Prevention is better than cure!

This article simply would not be complete if I didn't state the obvious: prevention is better than cure when it comes to bullying. Do not make yourself a target for bullying in the first place - be aware of how your behaviour may affect those around you. If you're not sure, default to keeping your mouth shut. Spend more time observing those around you. It is far easier to take preventative measures to avoid being bullied in the first place - Norman, Sam and Ben simply did not think before they opened their big mouths. Don't be a dick, don't be an idiot, be kind, be helpful, be respectful, be tactful. Don't say shit about people around you, if you don't have anything nice to say, then keep your opinions to yourself. We are bludgeoned through so many years of formal education yet how many times have we been taught how to behave properly in the company of others? The good news is that being aware of the need to watch your behaviour is half the battle won: I hate to blame victims, but often they are completely oblivious as to what is going on.

As for myself, yeah I'd be the first to admit that I found army to be a struggle socially. In a strange way, because I had already experienced bullying in secondary school, I knew from experience how to cope in a harsh environment where you cannot trust those around you. What I found quite hard was learning to get along with those who were of a very different social background and of course, I made mistakes, I offended people but I don't think anyone waltzes into NS totally prepared, fits in perfectly and doesn't put a foot wrong, never says anything wrong and is liked by everyone. By that token, I did what a lot of people did in my shoes - I was young, naive and inexperienced. I was placed in a difficult situation and I learnt how to adapt quickly. It was okay to make mistakes under those circumstances as long as you were willing to learn from your mistakes. It is a bloody steep learning curve and I think that as long as you manage to climb up that curve one way or another, you can be forgiven for having made a few mistakes along the way. Hindsight is 2020, I am writing this as an older, wiser 40 year old man who can look back at everything I went through and say "oh man, I could have done so much better" but let's be forgiving to those young 18 year old guys just starting NS.
So there you go - I know some of you are going to find this list controversial but bullying does happen in NS, the biggest challenge for young soldiers is to find a way to solve their own problems rather than running to a responsible adult for help. Once you've turned 18, you are an adult and expected to solve your own problems. These ten tips are but a start - I am sure my readers will have many more interesting suggestions of their own and they may also have other stories about bullying that they have witnessed during their NS stints. Perhaps you have met people like Norman, Pui and Sam during your NS days? Please do leave a comment below and let's talk about it - many thanks for reading.

34 comments:

  1. I just had a surprisingly in-depth discussion about "Nature vs Nurture" in the comments of a youtube video.
    Nature: One's nature is fixed and decided on birth.
    Nurture: One's nature is moulded by his/her surroundings.
    I would like to know what is your take on this subject.

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    1. Definitely nature - I am biased because of the two passions in my life: gymnastics and learning foreign languages. Some people can learn a back somersault in 30 minutes whilst some will never do it even after years of instruction. And I know a French guy who has studied Mandarin for like 3 months and he speaks more Mandarin than British people who have studied it for years. Unfair advantage = nature, born that way. What's your take?

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    2. I have posted one of the links before but i think nature has a bigger hand than previously though. These are examples of identical twins raised separately, if nurture played a part then they should end up more different than alike. However this is not the case:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/magazine/the-mixed-up-brothers-of-bogota.html?_r=0
      http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/11/separated-at-birth-one-twin-joined-the-nazis.html
      http://www.livescience.com/47288-twin-study-importance-of-genetics.html

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    3. My take is a mix of both but leaning towards nurture. I do not believe in the concept of controlled environment but I feel that the environment plays a bigger role in shaping the person. However, nature do have a hand in the different rates of growth of the individual in various environment.

      In addition, personal emotions and actions(nature) do affect their surroundings(nurture), which in turn, affect their emotions and actions. So, in my personal opinion, it is a balance mix of both concepts but to think that nurture can be controlled is just being egomaniacal.

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    4. well, what to do, most singlish people with that nasty hokkien singlish accent are fuck up, jealous and pathetic...i do agree on your point about seeing in the shoes of a bully but this does not negate the effect that the bully is insecure and pathetic.

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  2. I am a well educated fellow with the misfortune of screwing up my O levels so I got shafted into mono-intake along with uncouth and uncivilized idiots (Hokkien peng). Now I have to stress that many people in mono intake, regardless of socio-economic standing or education are decent and good people but the dregs of society are the ones that tend to stick out in your mind.

    During one incident, I had this hokkien peng sabotage me during water parade so I end up having to drink 2x instead of once. I never ask him why he did that but it was obvious, he was trying to curry favour with the Sergeants. Another incident with one of these 'delightful' scums of Singapore society had 4 of us in my sectioin standing at attention, for no reason at all, one of them decide to do a ballerina dance. I was like "dude wtf? you gonna get us all in trouble". So for no reason this jack ass decide to do stuff to get us in trouble. He was angry I dared to call him out on it and started blowing at me and making hissing noises at me. Why do the lowest common retard in Singapore engage in such bullshit, I will never understand, perhaps its one of the greatest mysteries of life up there with the Creation of our Universe. After that he proceed to try and make my life miserable in whatever petty ways his small mind can think of.

    There is of course the urge to clock him in the face, which I didnt. I suspect he takes my lack of action to be a sign of weakness but I legit just want to serve and fuck off. I aint getting in to trouble or going to DB because of a few losers. I kept my head down, and throughout my NS I pretty much took my time to 'read' people, those I deem assets I keep as a friends, the useless ones well....i dont really care about them and they are insignificant worms to my ascendancy in the world

    As a parting gesture at the conclusion of BMT, I took a dump in the toilet and took their canteen with me to scoop up the waste material and dump in every where in their SBO, waterbottle along with a few other people who annoyed me during BMT. Word from those in my platoon who didnt get to post out was they were furious but they never found who did it....

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    1. Thanks for sharing. I think it illustrates that there are two dimensions to bullying in NS: firstly, there are people like Pui who are clearly abusing their power. But then, secondly, there are also cases where peers bully each other and they are of a similar, equal rank and thus you take 'rank' out of the equation and the bullying still happens - this is not unlike the kind of bullying one may observe say in a secondary school.

      I feel for you buddy, I have been there and done that and witnessed a lot of crap. I could have written more but this article was already very long.

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  3. Great thanks. you must be the wiser Blogger I ever seen

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    1. Thanks. I'm an old man, I have learnt from the mistakes I have made in the past. That's what makes me wiser today. When I was 18, I was a naive, ignorant and inexperience young man who made many mistakes too.

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    2. Oh yeah I forgot to tell you something. you are not the only one being bullied in sec school. I am sure other teenager face even more aggressive bullied in their life. including me.(you don't want to know)

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    3. Perhaps I may be attacked or criticized for saying this: but I actually learnt a lot in the process. You can't expect life to always be easy, you can't always hope that there weren't be problems - but what you can do is to try to make the best of a bad situation, learn from your mistakes and grow to be a better person from the experience. I'm where I am today because I've been willing to learn from my bad experiences.

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  4. Lol at your 3SG Pui. There's one more way to look at things. That not only does NS not last forever, but that even BMT itself does not last forever. The rank of 3SG appears high and mighty in BMT when you can lord it over the recruits, but for the rest of the army, its no big deal. I say this with no condescension because I too am a 3SG. The recruits that Pui thinks he can bully will more often than not attain the same rank as him in a matter of months, or even go on to become officers. So you might see a guy like Pui having to salute the same guy he bullied in time to come, if not during NS then maybe during ICTs.

    And that's only in the army. A guy like 3SG Pui will eventually have to move out into the real world where he cannot hide behind his paltry rank in the army. He'll find out that there are worse ways that his petty insecurity will be exposed. Good luck to people like him then. Maybe this is the sort of person who ends up being an internet troll after they ORD.

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    1. You know, as an adult at the age of 40 today, I can look back at 3SG Pui and laugh at him. There's a part of me that wants to feel sorry for him given how life has dealt him a crap hand, on the other hand, I personally witnessed just how irrational, unhinged and crazy he can be and how was bullying rich kids going to solve any of the problems in your life? I am a very, very pragmatic person - I'm all about finding solutions to our problems, whilst someone like Pui just got carried away in venting his frustration on others. For all the time and effort he spent being a bully, he could have saved his energy to revise for his A levels retake. That's why I say, Lord of the Flies: you want 18-19 year olds to behave in a rational way like adults? Don't you realize that many of them are still immature kids who can't be trusted? Therein lies the problem with NS.

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    2. LOL Raymond... "Maybe this is the sort of person who ends up being an internet troll after they ORD" SPOT ON! Like LIFT, I do feel sorry for him, but on the other hand, I have met so many people who weren't from the most privileged of backgrounds, but tried ways and means to work around the cards they were dealt to carve a better life for themselves. Not only that, they are incredibly kind, positive and driven in life, even more so than a lot of the sheltered RJC kids I met in JC. Just goes to show that life may not be fair, but it's all a matter of whether you choose to fight for yourself or just wallow in self-pity and take your anger out on the world around you.

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    3. Well said Delia - I thought that was a classic example to illustrate my point about the Lord of the Flies situation. You can't trust 18-19 year olds to behave like adults, sometimes they do react in a very immature manner. Pui would be in his 40s today, who knows if he has grown up or if he is just as irrational and immature? I do hope he is struggling to make ends meet and is thoroughly miserable.

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    4. Its not entirely impossible Delia. I mean, the factors creating such people are the same. They got a grievance which they won't or can't meet head on. So they need a situation whereby they can simply rant and rave, and nothing can touch them. The rank and file in the army allows 3SG Pui to do so. He can do what he likes because of his rank for a limited period of time.
      It is the same as on the internet, where trolls use the ease of social media access, privacy setting, or "strength" in terms of likes and shares. Take for instance those who go on social media to spread anti-immigration or foreigner sentiments. They can't solve the immigration/jobs problem for real, and goodness knows that even with someone like Trump being elected and putting in place all these laws, these people still can't get ahead with what they want because they simply don't have what it takes. But they need something to hide behind, so internet trolling allows them a legitimate platform, where they can post their drivel in the name of "nationalism" and "speaking up", making their country great again, so on and so forth, whereas the real reason their country isn't "great" at the moment is probably people like them.

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  5. hi limpeh I want to tell you something about Singaporean. okay my point is why Singaporeans think that living in a western countries will be harder for them And they also think that Western countries is a dangerous place(especially US)
    As for me I want to travel to the west. I wonder what cause then to think like that.(especially my mom) (sorry if my English is bad I will try to improve it)

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    1. You don't have to tell me anything about Singaporeans - look, my parents are from Ang Mo Kio, I know what Singaporeans are like and you're describing people like my parents. But then again, you can go to any country in the world and you will find people who are afraid to go to another country, who are afraid to travel, who are afraid to even board a plane. This is something that you will find everywhere in the world, it is not something unique to Singaporeans.

      If I am going to be painfully honest and blunt, you're describing stupid people who can be found in any country in the world. Yes it takes some skills to travel independently: you have to read a map, you have to negotiate public transport, you may have to speak another language, you will have to make your own arrangements for accommodation and travel: for me, I enjoy this process. I recently went to Bulgaria (see my video here: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/lift-vlog-episode-86.html ) and had a lovely holiday. But my mother for example would freak out when it comes to visiting a country like that: it's too cold, people don't speak English there, it's too foreign and different etc. Sorry to say this, but she's kinda stupid and doesn't have the skills to travel independently.

      Now I have worked in countries around the world and I have plenty of skills (language skills, social skills, business skills etc) that enables me to thrive no matter where my work takes me. Someone like my mother, oh dear, you take her out of Ang Mo Kio and she feels scared. She is even nervous about changing MRT trains - like that's how bad it is, she has never taken a plane on her own without someone like her husband or a tour guide holding her hand. I remember once being at an airport with her and there was plenty of time before the plane took off and I said, why don't you go shopping at the duty free shops? She replied, no, I'm afraid I get lost and miss the plane, I'd better sit here until we're ready to board the plane. It's really that bad - so yeah people like her are so scared of anything outside Singapore. Look, I swear my parents are afraid to even leave Ang Mo Kio to go to somewhere like Clementi or Tampines - oooh. So scary.

      You wanted to know what causes them to think like that? Simple. Stupidity. They are stupid. And I can say that 'cos my parents are probably just like yours.

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    2. What does bother me though, is the fact that you think most (or all) Singaporeans are like your parents. That is not true at all, in any country in the world, you will have a mix of stupid and intelligent people. The stupid people will be afraid to travel, the intelligent people will spread their wings and fly around the world. I'm sorry but what you said tells me that most (or all) of your friends belong to the stupid category. Well-educated Singaporeans are equipped with the right kind of skills to travel around the world, to thrive in another country if work takes them there and there is absolutely no fear whatsoever. People like my mother believes that the world outside Ang Mo Kio is dangerous because she doesn't feel safe there - but is that true? Let me be brutally frank, the world outside Ang Mo Kio isn't dangerous - she is simply way too stupid to handle anything beyond what she is already very familiar with. So if you were to ask someone like my mother is America dangerous? She would say oh so scary, so dangerous - but then again, why would you go to a stupid person for their opinion, much less pay any attention to the crap they say? I'd rather go to intelligent people and seek their opinion instead.

      If your mother is as stupid as mine, then you've simply gotta ignore her and stop paying attention to the crap she says. Be nice to her, but recognize that she's an idiot.

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  6. Hi Limpeh,

    I really like reading this article because I am in a similar situation at work now. There are some colleagues who have been taking screenshots of my facebook post (for example when i tagged a friend saying let's go to this restaurant soon) and circulating it in their whatsapp groups spreading rumours about me and that friend tagged.
    Believe me, i know exactly how childish it seems and I was surprised that my 30 year old colleague will do such a thing. Thinking about it, it is because he is jealous that I am younger and newer but already doing better (I am a perm while he is a temp), and I am close to a lot of senior management. Because of my friendly nature, i realize that I have been quite high profile because my boss and other senior management often single me out for praises in front of everyone.
    Their actions have led to my guy friend that was tagged distancing himself from me and i cant blame him for doing that. I have deactivated my facebook. But I am not sure what to do about the bullies. It is probably too late now for me to suddenly act low-profile right? He always wave and act damn friendly when he saw me. Is my only recourse to do well at work and dgaf what he thinks? I'm just worried about him breaking up my other friendships (yes I have a lot of platonic guy friends at work).
    Thank you!

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    1. Hi there Aurora,

      Yeah it boils down to the same thing at the end of the day - you can't trust some adults to behave with maturity, they still give in to stupid childish shit. The whole thing about your Facebook pictures? That's the kinda idiotic behaviour I expect from maybe secondary school kids, but a 30 year old? Bloody hell, he's such a loser.

      There are a few ways for you to deal with this and without knowing you and him, I cannot tell you what is the best option. I'll just list them and you tell me what is more suited to your character.

      1. Take the high road.

      If he thinks he can get a reaction from you, then he will push it further - and let's face it, his antics are totally childish. You can prove that you're the more mature adult and you won't stoop to his level. Tell him exactly that - invite him to behave like a mature adult and stop acting like a kid. Some adults need to be 'called out' like that and if he has a shred of decency, then he will realize, oh shit, I have messed with the wrong person. Either he will pick a new target or he will leave you alone if you manage to confront him with not so much a 'warning' but an invitation to behave like an adult in a non-confrontational manner.

      2. Take the low road

      Confront him and tell him that you are able to play more dirty than him, that you're willing to stoop to his level and hit below the belt if that's the kind of game he wants to play. You see, it's a gamble you take - whether or not it works depends on whether you can pull off the bluff. Of course, the plan is to scare him that you WILL DEFINITELY strike back if he doesn't back off at once and that's to scare him off, rather than engage in war. It's a bit like when you are facing a barking dog and you know you cannot outrun the dog, so you turn to face the dog and you raise your fist and shout at the dog in a bid to show the dog, "I'm bigger than you, I'm badder than you and I'm gonna kick your ass if you don't fuck off now". The plan is always to scare the dog away, never to actually end up 'fighting' with the dog!

      Either way, you have to confront him to end this crap. Which road you take - high/low - is up to you.

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    2. Oh and I wanted to confirm that you are right when you said it's too late (waaaaaay too late) for you to attempt to take a low profile - for whatever reason (your success at work perhaps) he has decided you're a target and the way I see it, you only have two options.

      1. Confront him with either the high-road / low-road approach
      2. Leave the company and work elsewhere

      But for crying out aloud, do not take the option which involves you suffering in silence, being in denial, hoping for this problem to go away by itself. It won't. Life does gives us problems at times and you have to man up, face your problems and solve them. You will become a stronger, wiser person for standing up to him and solving this problem. You have no choice but to do something about the situation - so stop wasting time with crap like, "what did I do to deserve this blah blah blah", that kinda talk won't solve such problems in life. Treat this as training as life will throw you loads of other equally difficult problems in the future when you have no choice but to be strong, stand up and face your problems, solving them and becoming a much stronger, wiser and smarter person in the process.

      I'm here for you, for what it's worth.

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    3. Hi Limpeh,

      Thank you for the advice! Yes I agree that I shouldnt avoid him at the expense of doig what i want to do (for example, I had thought of not attending an event that I know I will see him there, but at the end of the day i decided to go for my own networking purposes). So I will take the High Road approach.
      My friend suggest I report to HR as sexual harrassment or something though? I'm not sure if Singapore takes this kind of things seriously. Its my word against his as he can just say it's all for fun etc.

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    4. Hi, on the issue of HR, I can't answer because I don't know how effective or useless your HR department is. If they are great then use them. If they are useless, then what's the point?

      I believe that if you want something done properly, do it yourself. Just confront the guy - I am telling you that you MUST do that and do it ASAP. It's only whether you wanna take the high or low road. And if you take the high road, it doesn't mean going in smiling and being nice: it means being firm without being confrontational - no smiling at all. Just tell him in plain simple English that you want him to stop exactly what he is doing and that he needs to leave you alone. If it helps, you can bring a friend along to the confrontation.

      I have done the 'high road' confrontation before when I worked in Hungary last year and had a very childish colleague who gave me a lot of grief - it worked. I took him aside and told him in no uncertain terms what I thought of his behaviour and trust me, it worked. I wasn't angry, I was just firm and made it very clear that I was not happy with his behaviour. He apologized at once and I think he realized that I was giving him a chance to draw a line on the issue before I made an official complaint: he was childish but not stupid enough to risk getting himself into a situation where I made an official complaint against him. That 'threat' of a complaint is effective because he doesn't want that to happen - if you run to HR now, then you've already played that card.

      And tell your friend you're not some dumb primary one kid who runs to the teacher every time something goes wrong. "Teacher teacher he bully me one". Please lah, what are you, 7 years old? For crying out aloud. You're not in primary school anymore, time to act like an adult.

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    5. There was a part of me that wanted to take the low road with that idiot colleague when I was working in Hungary - but I had to choose the path that would have led to the most effective result. 'Scolding' him would perhaps allow me to vent some anger, but being firm in a non-confrontational manner was far more effective in getting him to back off and leave me alone.

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  7. hi limpeh I have to ask this question. do the politic affect our lifestyle?

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    1. I am sorry but I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're trying to ask. What is "the politic"? Your English is so bad I don't even know what the hell you're referring to when you say "the politic". Your question is in such bad English it is impossible to guess what you're trying to say.

      Are you talking about the political system of Singapore? Or are you talking about the politicians themselves? Or are you talking more generally about the style of government? Or are you talking about the relationship between the government and the people?

      And what on earth do you mean by "affect our lifestyle"? This isn't North Korea, you do what you want. You pick your school, you pick your job, you marry the person you want to marry, you live the life you want to live. Now, I have a feeling you're trying to ask me a question but your English is so bad, your question is impossible to answer because I don't even know what you're trying to say.

      Sigh. Would it help if you asked in Chinese? I'm happy to answer in Chinese if your Chinese is better than your English. Seriously, your English is so terrible it is sometimes impossible to guess what the hell you're trying to say.

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  8. I remembered my sgts referred to us from JCs as "Air level" and said to us : if u are so smart, why do you not graduated from the command schools.

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    1. I think it is a question of picking one's goals. Now I used to live in a block of flats where every unit is identical - but some residents have made a real effort to renovate it and make it really nice, whereas some have done very little to make any improvements at all. Now one such guy who has done v little to decorate/renovate his flat was a neighbour called David, I know he's got a very important job, he's a high achiever and since he lives on his own, he can't be asked to go shopping for nice furniture or spend hours redecorating, having houseplants etc. His flat looks like a bachelor's pad - messy, simple furniture, unloved, unclean. But David's priorities lie elsewhere: on his career to be precise and he spends far more time in his office than at home. His home is just a place to sleep. Whereas for me, I work from home a lot so I wanna make sure the place where I spend so many hours a day is beautiful - hence I make a genuine effort to decorate and invest money in renovations. David has seen my former flat and he was blown away by how much effort I had put into decorating it.

      We make an effort when something is important for us. One should investigate and find out why someone has made more of an effort than others - simply comparing David's living room to mine isn't going to tell you the whole story. Many of us treat NS the same way David treated his flat: it's not important, it's temporary, what's really more important is when we get out, we go to university then we'll embark on a career. That's important - whatever you do in NS pales in comparison, so many of us simply think, why bother? Just pick the path of least resistance, do as little as possible because it's just not worth it, putting in so much effort into something that isn't going to matter at all the moment you ORD.

      People who can see long term are more likely to have that opinion - I remember when I was in primary school and once worked on an art project late into the night, not realizing that even if I got an A for it, art was not a PSLE subject (duh) and it would at best gather dust for a few years in my bedroom before eventually being ditched. But as a child, I could only see what was ahead of me: that I had to do whatever I was asked to do. Children can't see the big picture but us adults can.

      NS is so temporary, it is only for a limited period before we go back to the real world. Nothing you do in camp matters out in the real world.

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    2. Don't get me wrong - if someone goes into NS and chooses to make the most of the opportunities presented to him whilst serving, then that's his choice and I respect that. But we are all unique individuals, everyone has different priorities and just because somebody doesn't do something we have chosen to do doesn't make them stupid or inferior.

      I had to confront that the other day - I was talking to a gymnastics coach and I had to explain that whilst I am a qualified coach, I don't teach gymnastics much these days as I work full time in finance. So I tried explaining to him how corporate finance works (see my latest article) and it was clear this guy had absolutely no clue, he didn't even have the most basic understanding about how banking works. I used the words 'collateral' and he didn't know what it meant and I was like woah, my first instinct was so think that he was stupid. But then again, I know he's an excellent gymnastics coach - he's good at what he has chosen to pursue for his career and doesn't know about stuff that he has chosen not to bother with. Whom am I to judge him for not knowing what 'collateral' means? That'll be me judging him by my standards. I say, as long as he's good at something (and not nothing), that's good enough for my respect.

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  9. Hi Limpeh, I am about to enlist in two months time. I cannot tell you how many of your articles have helped me rethink the way I look at relationships and how I interact with others. Your experiences with NS and dealing with bullies is quite eye-opening, so thank you so much for sharing your timeless wisdom.
    I come from a strange mix of backgrounds--I have only lived in Singapore for the years of my primary school. The subsequent years I have spent in my native China and also the U.S. Since my childhood I've learnt a mouthful of fluent Ang Mo English. I admit that I come from an incredibly sheltered background, but thanks to my few years in Singapore, I have picked up some basic Singlish. Though I can pull off a pretty convincing Singlish accent, it couldn't withstand much further talking. Having read your articles on bullying and keeping a low profile, I know better than to actively flaunt my educational or family background. With accents however, things are harder to hide. Should I try hard to hone in my Singlish, or as you said with Ben's situation, stop trying too hard to fit in?
    Thank you again for your brilliant articles. I continue to find nuggets of gold between the lines.

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    1. Hi Tony, sorry it took me so long to reply but I reckoned you still had two months to figure this out. I simply don't have a one-size fits all solution to your question - the right thing to do would depend entirely on the people you have to live/work with and without a crystal ball to predict the future, neither of us have any clue whom your peers will be 2 months from now. All I can say is that you should treat this as an observation exercise: pay close attention to those around you and think about how best to response to them. Human interaction on this level is a lot more than just one's accent. Get to know people, make an effort to be their friend, ask questions about them rather than talk about yourself, see the wider picture: this is a lot more than just your accent. Good luck!

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  10. So lengthy , no need write so long to declare the fact that allmare brainwash to accept the bullying as culture and as right culture. Is a fact keeping head down and mouth shut is sg culture, it dosent mean is right.

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    1. If you had a problem with something that I wrote, like if you disagreed with a point I made and you believe I had been mistaken, then by all means please point that out to me and I'm happy to talk about it. But what is wrong with writing a long piece to discuss how we feel about this situation? Are you Singaporeans so inarticulate that you feel insecure and confused the moment someone actually talks about their feelings in this manner, laying out a cogent and logical argument to justify one's opinion? If you look at the atrocious quality of English in most Singaporean forums, you have so many people posting one or two lines in broken English, rarely ever making much sense - so many people take part in those forums but there's so little intelligence there. If you feel that there's a culture of brainwashing in Singapore or if you have some thoughts about why Singaporeans feel the way they do about bullying, then talk about it - use your words and be articulate. Just because most Singaporeans are inarticulate and don't know how to express themselves doesn't mean that I have any desire to try to communicate like them - quite on the contrary, I attract so many readers (11.3 million page views since I started blogging) because I am so articulate when discussing such difficult topics and it caters for a different kind of audience. If you only have the attention span of a fruit fly, then you should return to those Singaporean forums where people post no more than five words per comment, using emojis and making very little sense. I think you will find yourself a lot more comfortable there - the people who come to my blog are seeking something very different indeed.

      In short, you're barking up the wrong tree mate.

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