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Xiaxue on the warpath! |
1. Do not underestimate the power of Gushcloud's influencers.
Now as I look at the huge spike in traffic to my blog within the last 24 hours since I've posted the article, most of the traffic had been directed via one website: http://ohsofickle.blogspot.sg/ and that is Tammy Tay. Now I've never heard of her before given that we move in completely different social circles (she is 23, female and in Singapore; I'm 38, male and in London) but a quick scroll through her site makes me think that she is a Xiaxue clone complete with plastic surgery enhanced Barbie-doll wide eyes and super sharp noses that East Asians just don't have. Look, I'm Eurasian, I've done the official DNA test and all that, I have a naturally sharp nose but I just don't quite have her kind of Barbie-doll wide eyes: it is just amazing the lengths these Asians will go to in their quest to look white these days. Hey, that's like so super common in South Korea these days, so that's not me passing any judgement. It's nice to see beautiful Singaporean women like her take such pride in their appearances because most Singaporean men look like geeks who can't get laid anyway. #sohatemehaters
Tammy is a Gushcloud influencer. I had a good look at her blog: it is mostly just photos of her looking sexy in different outfits. Clearly I'm not in her demographic as I found that totally boring (no offence Tammy) but evidently, there is a market for that kind of social media. Either from her peers who are looking to her for fashion advice, or dirty old men who are looking to gawk at just how sexy she looks in her photos. The bulk of the content is about women's fashion and there is even an online store where you can purchase some of Tammy's outfits. I'm sure Tammy has a big enough following to do very well out of it. Now in a break from all that fashion, she wrote a piece on her blog about this Xiaxue vs Gushcloud saga and despite the fact that my last post had mostly mocked Gushcloud's totally inept PR response to the situation, she has included a link to my blog post for those interested to read more about it.
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Tammy's blog is mostly about fashion for young women. |
So just that one hyperlink from her sent a massive spike in traffic to Limpeh's blog (thank you Tammy) - now that's pretty impressive. Now there have been a number of sources sending a lot of traffic to my blog as well (including from Singapore Daily, Twitter and Facebook) but Tammy's blog trumps them all. She wields an incredible amount of influence through her blog and her readers actually do read what she tells them to read. Gushcloud's very clumsily crafted statement had actually given us all a really terrible impression of their business but after having looked at Tammy's blog, I had changed my mind and realized that even successful businesses can make epic PR mistakes. So Gushcloud isn't as bad as I had initially imagined, they just had screwed up this PR response big time.
2. The case study of Rebekah Brooks: law vs PR
Now I know some of you may be aware of the notorious Rebekah Brooks - she was the editor of the News Of The World when illegal phone hacking was carried out by its journalists: the criminal trail led to the collapse of the News Of The World (which was at that time one of the biggest selling newspapers of the world). Brooks was charged with a long list of criminal offenses associated with the phone hacking scandal and let me jump to the punchline: she was cleared of all charges despite the fact that the vast majority of the British public were hoping for her to be sent to jail for a very long time - myself included. They were left with a big legal bill nonetheless and they hardly emerged victorious from it.
What lesson can Gushcloud learn from Rebekah Brooks then? There is a time and place for lawyers - that is when either you are being charged with a crime or when someone has committed a criminal offence against you and you need to file an official complaint with the authorities in order to bring charges against the offending party. Now in this case, we don't dispute the fact that Xiaxue had used entrapment in order to procure evidence against Gushcloud - that was certainly unethical, but was it illegal? Now that is something only a Singaporean lawyer can tell you, but judging from Gushcloud's response so far, the verdict seems to be, "unethical but not illegal." That is probably by they have backed off from their initial threat to sue Xiaxue despite the fact that there may have been a case of defamation there.
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Xiaxue: unethical but still completely legal? |
Gushcloud have far more to lose if they pursued Xiaxue through legal means: ethical or not, Xiaxue has raised some very awkward questions for Gushcloud. If they pursued this, Xiaxue could lawyer up and who knows what else Xiaxue's team could dig up? Xiaxue has already proven that she has plenty of resources to throw at this fight against Gushcloud and is extremely well prepared - she does have a reputation in not backing down from a fight. According to an influential local blogger who wishes to remain anonymous, "Whilst Xiaxue did lay out a very strong and convincing case, she did get some of her facts wrong in the process. So there is the issue of defamation in this case when Gushcloud can prove that Xiaxue did make some claims which they can easily prove are false. But then it is a question of what they can gain by pursuing a defamation case against Xiaxue. Thus for Gushcloud, suing Xiaxue has become more a case of 'if I'm going down, I'm taking you with me.' Unfortunately, it is a lose-lose situation and for Gushcloud to back down at this stage does appear to hand victory to Xiaxue."
3. Engaging with the enemy: just speak to Xiaxue
So Limpeh, you may ask me, what is the best PR solution you can suggest in the face of such a crisis then? Look, there's no easy way to clean up a mess like that - you have to be very realistic about what you can realistically achieve given the constraints of the situation. We are talking about damage limitation here, making the best of a bad situation and within that context, I actually do have some pragmatic steps that Gushcloud can do to deescalate the situation.
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Surely there is some room for negotiation? |
Now I would suggest that Gushcloud should take a deep breath and calm the fuck down - yes I know they are angry (and quite naturally so) but if just have a read Althea Lim's post to Xiaxue, good grief. That was so antagonistic. There was a lot of name calling and it got really personal - I feel like stepping in as a primary school teacher and telling Althea, "I don't care who started the fight, I want the both of you to stop behaving like this right now." Why? Because this war of words only escalates the situation and it is dragging Gushcloud further and further into a fight that they are already losing in the court of public opinion. Going a step further, I would suggest direct engagement with Xiaxue. They know where to find her, why not just reach out and ask her, "what do you want? What are you trying to proof? Can we talk about resolving this amicably? Let's not make this ugly." If direct contact is just too difficult at this stage, how about using an intermediary, an independent third party to open some kind of channel for dialogue between the two parties where they can speak to each other in a bid to resolve the situation.
Whilst this may sound unacceptable to Gushcloud at this stage: what? Making peace with the person who attacked us in the first place, are you mad? Why on earth would I want to do something like that? Sometimes in life, you simply have to swallow your pride and consider your priorities: your pride or your business interests? Lashing out at Xiaxue may be their first instinct when being insulted like that, but would this serve Gushcloud's business interests any good? Clearly not - the longer this fight goes on, the more Gushcloud will suffer in the process. Let's face it, any business would suffer when you have someone like Xiaxue willing to invest great time, effort and resources into derailing you.
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Would it serve Gushcloud to pursue this grudge with Xiaxue? |
Judging from the way Xiaxue has very cleverly crafted her attack (singling Yan KayKay out for example), the attack does come across as a very personal one and the company Gushcloud has simply become a convenient target for Xiaxue to attack since such an attack would not only have the maximum impact but also Gushcloud has a lot more to lose than any single individual involved, so it is a far more vindictive attack because it causes far more damage. My guess is that the people at Gushcloud probably know exactly whom the individual(s) is/are on Xiaxue's hit list: so there comes a point where you can quite heartlessly say, "I know it is _________ you are after, what can we offer you in return so you will focus your attack on her and leave Gushcloud alone? It is really her you want to destroy, not us."
4. Case study: Korean air nut rage
Another important step that Gushcloud has to do is to take ownership for the mistakes they have made so far - something they have failed to do properly. Allow me to refer you to the Korean Air nut-rage case involving VP Heather Cho which I am sure many of you are familiar with already. On the 5th December 2014, after a Korean Air flight had left the terminal at New York JFK airport, Cho had ordered the plane to turn around after a flight attendant had served her macadamia nuts in a bag rather than a bowl. She basically threw a tantrum like a spoilt brat: she forced him to kneel before him, physically abused him, made the plane turn around so he could be removed from the flight not before firing him on the spot. It seems it is not the first time this has happened - in 2013, she threw a similar tantrum after she was served improperly cooked ramen on a flight. This crazy woman is a major liability to Korean Air.
Now what can we learn from the nut rage case? Korean Air made a bad decision in trying to cover up Cho's actions in the first place - the cover up became as much of a story as Cho's initial tantrum: it was pouring oil on the fire in terms of making a PR disaster worse. It is bad enough that you have this psycho bitch of a VP who throws tantrums like that - it is far worse when you try to cover up the story because it makes the public think: okay, if you have tried to cover this story up, what other stories have you successfully covered up? How many skeletons in the closets do Korean Air have - what else are they hiding? We're talking about a year with two major airline-related disasters, everyone is so concerned about the safety records of the airlines they are flying with. This was a relatively minor incident which resulted in the New York to Seoul flight being delayed just 11 minutes (which is a very minor inconvenience, nobody got hurt, 11 minutes is barely noticeable), they should have come clean in the first place and nip the story in the bud.
If a major international airline can Korean Air can fuck up this badly over the nut rage incident, it is understandable that a smaller company like Gushcloud can make the same mistake. After Xiaxue made her allegations, Gushcloud did the following steps (and I list them chronologically):
1. They released a statement threatening to sue Xiaxue
2. Even when given the chance to offer their side of the story with TechAsia, they were extremely vague issuing statements like “The article is inaccurate”. “The Blog Post was calculated to disparage and injure our reputation”. “The timing of the release of the Blog Post also speaks for itself.”
3. They asked their supporters to have #faithingushcloud without offering any other explanations about Xiaxue's allegation
4. They then issued a super long statement (which required 37 'Pagedowns' on my laptop) which mostly bragged about all the things that Gushcloud have done well as a business but avoids directly dealing with a lot of Xiaxue's allegations (especially ref: Doug Chu SL).
5. From a very antagonistic stance, Gushcloud then change their tune, back down and want to make peace? "Mr Ha ended the post with "live and let live". Speaking to The Straits Times, Mr Ha said that Gushcloud will not be pursuing the matter further. "It's the holiday season, and we have no intention of making this matter into more than it is," he said. "At the end of the day, we just want to make peace." Woah, what happened then, why the change of heart?
So there you go - those are four points for you to ponder in this continuing Xiaxue vs Gushcloud saga. Do let me know your thoughts on this please - feel free to leave me a comment below. Thank you very much for reading!
I'm definitely on Gushcloud side because Xiaxue is the one who pull out the knives first - all that drama because of her.
ReplyDeleteDoes she see herself as some sort of martyr? From I see, she's just itching for a fight and more clicks to her blog. Wish that she can stop her drama and concentrate on raising his son.
Well Dakota, of course it is your right to dislike what Xiaxue has done - but surely you're being sexist here in making that reference to her motherhood? It's not like all mothers should stop doing all forms of professional work and have any kind of social contact whilst they are busy changing nappies and feeding their babies. Say if a friend had returned to work after having had a baby, would you pass equally harsh judgment on her for having returned to work? You see for Xiaxue, her work is unusual, her work is being Xiaxue - she needs to stir up shit to get attention to the stuff she does, so this may seem like 'drama' to you, but this is her work: her job is being a drama queen and getting as much attention as possible.
DeleteLike I said, by all means, dislike her all you like, but stop being so sexist about young mothers.
Nope not being sexist at all. Why do you think I'm sexist? Stopping drama does not equate to stop working.
DeleteI agree with her returning to work even after she has a kid but I was implying that I don't think she should start that drama especially after she has a kid and the drama has shone a spotlight on that kid. She can being a drama queen for all she wants - but doing so might hurt her son and get him all the bad publicity.
And I'm not sexist - please why do you think I'm sexist?
I concluded that you're sexist the moment you dragged her motherhood into the equation. By all means, please, go ahead and hate Xiaxue, condemn her actions, scold her, say whatever you want about what she did. But what has her motherhood got to do with this whole Gushcloud controversy? Absolutely nothing - but you chose to drag it in, now I can see no other reason for that apart from a blatant desire on your part to discriminate against young mothers who dare to have any other interests in their lives apart from changing nappies.
DeleteAnd please: the moment she got pregnant, she has been talking about her pregnancy on her blog and the moment her son was born, she was flooding social media with, "OMG look at just how cute my half Angmoh son is." Whether you like it or not, her son has already become a part of her big Xiaxue social media machine.
As a mother, she has bills to pay and bringing up a son is expensive - so if he can help contribute to her household income by being a part of her social media programme, then why not? In any case, I hardly think that she could possibly hurt her son - she is a LOT smarter than you give her credit for and you treat children as if they should be some kind of rare endangered species that should be locked up in a zoo and protected from any form of human contact. By virtue of being the son of Xiaxue, her son will grow up in the media spotlight anyway and how is that somehow automatically a nasty, bad thing that will hurt him? Loads of celebrities have children who grow up in the media spotlight and that's just the culture we live in - if you don't approve of it, then stop giving them your attention.
I do believe that she is a great mother and fantastic role model for her son - here is a woman who found great success her own way without following the usual prescribed route that most Singaporeans follow. You could learn a thing or two from her Dakota.
Well said, LPFT, well said. I assume that fella is a Singaporean and I apologise on his behalf.
DeleteWhat? Kinkidkid, sorry to say this but I don't feel a need for you to apologise on my behalf.
DeleteWhat her motherhood got to do with the Gushcloud controversy? A LOT. I think I have miscommunicated my point about Xiaxue stopping her drama and concentrate on raising her son, but let me explain myself okay?
What I meant is, and from my experience, media exposure and excessive bad publicity for a young kid like Dash is NOT a good idea. Why? Dash is still a kid and he's bound to make mistakes and get into trouble along his way as he grows up and the spotlight on him. His mistakes are much more likely to remembered (with his name too!), some people might pick on him because his mother is Xiaxue, and he may not be comfortable with it. And nope, I never imply that "' I' treat children as if they should be some kind of rare endangered species that should be locked up in a zoo and protected from any form of human contact." Did I say anything along the line of him being locked up or something? I just said that Xiaxue's bad publicity can hurt her son - and yes it do. I never said or imply that children should be locked up and void of human contact. I just said that a parent's bad publicity can hurt their child.
Yes, children are expensive things. But is the trade off worth it?
That's all. You should stop making assumptions about me.
On the contrary, I don't think that you should place too much emphasis about any kind of bad publicity from one's parents on the child. Heck, I had the most boring, PAP-voting, religious, conservative parents in Singapore and I rebelled against it all, rejected their authority and eventually left Singapore. Let's not exaggerate the amount of influence parents have on their children.
DeleteBesides, if anyone dares to pick on Dash, then I daresay, he will fight back and punch them in the nose - and if he doesn't, then Xiaxue will kick the shit out of them. I reject your attitude of "oh no what if they bully him" - that's bullshit, what are you trying to raise, the most meek PAP voting Singaporean without any backbone?
I do believe that it is absolutely necessary to teach children to fight back and stand up for themselves because that is absolutely necessary in this world we live in. Stop trying to protect them and start teaching them to grow up - by that token, I think Xiaxue is a fantastic mother and a great role mother for her child. You on the other hand Dakota, have some very warped ideas about parenthood.
Warped ideas about parenthood? Nope. I am just someone who cares about my family - I once hurt my loved ones because of my own selfish actions and desire for fame and power. It hurt him, he is very upset with me and I feel bad, and then I took more careful steps.
DeleteBut Xiaxue? Ever since she decided to make being a bully a career [http://xiaxueexposed.wordpress.com/], did she think about how her family is going to get affected, particularity her own son? Sure, punch the bullies in the face - but what if the bully is a faceless group of internet trolls, or his classmates in packs? How is Xiaxue or Dash is going to punch a group of young kids [like in groups of 20]? If Dash's classmates is going to just isolate him, not necessary bully, how do you think Dash is going to deal with them?
Seriously Limpeh, you have never been a parent or a teacher people, bullying is not just physical. If some Daddy is upset with Xiaxue behavior, and maybe tell his children, "Don't be friend with Dash, he is gangster, if you friend him no kit kat for you."....how is Xiaxue going to deal with it? Punch the Dad or the kid? Tell Dash to stand up for himself? Stand up for what?
TL;DR Bullying has evolved from physical/name-calling to passive bullying, etc isolation, not invited for class BBQ, kicked out of whatsapp group for no reason, not added to class group.
Let's focus on Xiaxue in this case, I think you're letting your own personal experiences cloud your judgement here. Let me speak as someone who has worked in 2 industries (media + finance) and I have a newsflash for you: bullies get ahead in life, nice people don't. Sad but true. Gosh, the amount of backstabbing, bullying, manipulation I have seen in both industries - it's not that I condone that kind of behaviour, but I have seen so much of it that it makes Xiaxue look ordinary and average when it comes to bullying. Such is the very harsh reality of the working world: an example of it would be Simon Cowell who makes a living out of being nasty to others, but there have been plenty of others who have done exactly that. And guess what? They get away with it as long as they manage to make money in the process.
DeleteAs for internet trolls, Xiaxue has faced plenty of them before and she is the one person who is experienced enough to deal with them. It is very scary to face such trolls (I have been the victim of an internet troll myself) but such is the reality of the internet age when we all have some kind of internet footprint and I have blogged a lot about it: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/the-internet-is-not-your-enemy.html http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/your-personal-internet-footprint.html Like you and I and everyone else who uses the internet, Dash would simply have to learn from a young age how he navigates the internet.
And as for bullying, you're wrong Dakota. I've been bullied as a child, I've been bullied in NS, I've witnessed so much bullying in the work place - I think you're misguided and inaccurate to assume that bullying is all about little children in primary school or kindergarten. Bullying is in fact something that can affect anyone at any stage in their lives - it's just that we tend to be a bit more sympathetic to children when they are victims of bullying but when an adult is bullied, we just think, "oh you're old enough to fight your own battles and figure this one out for yourself." I have blogged so much about bullying - both from children's perspective as well as from an adult's perspective - so I think you are probably somewhat new to my blog to have missed those articles.
http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/interview-dealing-with-bullying-in.html
http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/a-genuine-case-of-office-bullying-in.html
http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/q-help-am-i-being-bullied-at-work-can.html
You have a very warped idea about a child being isolated at school - life should NEVER be a popularity contest, you should never ever try to please everyone in school or at work. If someone refuses to be your friend because of something that is not your fault (the colour of your skin for example), then I would say you don't wanna be friends with a racist. I have encountered this in my primary school, where there was this girl who's mother was a single mother (never got married) and word got round that she didn't have a father and that some of the kids said it was a reason not to 'friend' her - whose fault is that? The girl, her single mother or the kids who have an issue with the fact that she didn't have a father and her mother never got married?
DeleteYou have extremely warped ideas about bullying because you are empowering bullies by excusing them from their very nasty behaviour. Dash is a kid, he is innocent and more to the point - he doesn't get to choose whom his parents are - if he is being bullied because of whom his parents are, then I say, the first people I would punish are the bullies, not Dash or his parents.
Look, I know you hate Xiaxue and you're not obliged to like her in anyway, but this whole bullying argument where you drag in her son is so wrong on so many levels Dakota because you have empowered bullies and you condone bullying. Life is not a popularity contest and you should never ever, under any circumstances, condone the actions of bullies - sure there will be parents of classmates who dislike Dash and his mother - but would Xiaxue and Dash wanna be friends with them in the first place? I think Xiaxue would turn around and say,"screw them, mummy has got plenty of other fans and people in my life who don't condone that kind of bullying."
Here's the biggest irony Dakota - you claim that I am not a parents or teacher and thus I don't understand bullying: yet you are the one who condones the actions of bullies and have effectively empowered bullies: you're telling me that you would go out of your way to bully someone for a reason that is not their fault (ie. whom their parents are) - doesn't that make you as bad as the worst of the bullies out there?
TL:DR Dakota, you've shot yourself in the foot because you don't understand the complexities of bullying. Standing up to the bullies doesn't mean getting into a fist fight. Standing up to bullies often means deciding in your head, "screw you, you're an asshole, I don't give a shit if you don't like me because I don't like you either if that is the way you behave." Trust me, I've survived NS and that's a very harsh environment full of bullies - that's something you as a woman would never understand. Anyone who has been through NS would understand the mentality of bullies very well. In short, I think you're extremely naive and know very little about bullying as you are a young lady who has seen very little of the real world (sorry, I had to look at your profile and blog to verify that).
And just a personal anecdote for you: when I was in NS (since we've brought up NS here), I got to know Andre Seow who is the son of dissident Francis Seow (way before your time, he challenged LKY and had to flee S'pore after having offended LKY by daring to stand as an opposition candidate) and my mother was terrified and she tried to blackmail me into keeping my distance from Andrew Seow. My mother is a PAP-supporter who votes PAP out of fear rather than choice, she doesn't know what she is voting for, she is just afraid of the PAP. Hence when her son is hanging out with the son of Francis Seow, she was like over my dead body you won't be friend with him.
DeleteGuess what I did? I told my mother to go fuck herself and give blowjobs to the PAP ministers if she loved the PAP so much and I was old enough to know whom I wanted for my friends. Andre is a nice guy who didn't have any choice as to whom his father or parents were and he had nothing to do with his father's political activities. I was somewhat surprised that Andre had chosen to stay in Singapore and serve NS (rather than follow his father into exile away from Singapore), but at the end of the day, I did not condone my mother's attitude when it came to asking me to isolate Andre because of who his parents were. I told my mother to fuck off as I didn't agree with her and I went out of my way to hang out with Andre during my NS times and I rubbed it in my mother's face, "hey mum, I'm not coming home for dinner because I'm hanging out with Andre." LOL. In fact, even when I wasn't hanging out with Andre, I would still lie that I was just to make her upset. Oh yeah, it pissed her off royally and oh in case you didn't realize from my blog, my mum and I are barely on speaking terms anymore because of shit like that which happened when I was back in Singapore.
The bottom line is? None of that "no Kitkat for you" shit applies when it comes to children. You are so totally overestimating the amount of influence parents have over their children. I barely tolerated my parents as I grew up, I saw them as relics from another era who were totally out of touch with the modern world I grew up in, they were afraid of computers and anything modern and I thought, what the hell can you possibly teach me about the modern world? OK perhaps my experiences were a bit extreme, but the bottom line is even from a young age, I was not afraid to assert myself and have an opinion of my own. I didn't believe what my parents said from a young age, even at the age of like 6 years old, I didn't trust them and I went into this passive-aggressive stance where I would just nod and say nothing but disagree with them in my head and think, "bullshit, you're such idiots, what the hell do you know about the real world." That's how I fell out with my parents eventually, because they had zero control over me from a young age. No amount of Kitkats in the world could have changed that because we're talking about winning the respect of a young mind here and you need to look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs to see that I was dealing on a higher level (self-actualization/esteem) when it came to issues like respect and morals whilst you are stuck on physiological needs when you talk about Kitkat? Good grief. You're talking about children here, not pets.
As much as I cannot stand the existence of Falling Snow Xia Xue, I have a feeling she is a very resourceful woman who can handle her bullies and teach her son to handle bullies as well. I believe she is putting on this persona for the sake of publicity. Much like Paris Hilton who pretends to be a bimbo. In fact, she makes millions a year based on her bimbo persona. I don't understand why Falling Snow should stop whatever she does as Xia Xue just because she is a mother. They call her an influencer. What the heck is an influencer? If people are stupid enough to be influenced by Falling Snow, then I blame the people for making her rich and influential. Honestly, I am still unsure what she does and how she influences people. I do know she is well-known and makes good money. She must be doing something smart.
DeleteHi Di.
Delete1. You may not like her, but she has a huge following. Think about Kim Kardashian - I don't get Kim Kardashian and I don't like her, I don't understand the fascination about her (especially with that whole 'break the internet' ass thing) but the fact remains that she is making a helluva lot of money and she has a HUGE following. Need I go on? How about a Canadian example for you then? I am not a fan of Justin Bieber, I don't like his music but he is a huge star, with massive commercial success and is clearly making a lot of money. You get the idea - just because you don't like Xiaxue doesn't mean that she isn't successful or makes a lot of money.
She receives very lucrative contracts to endorse a range of products (mostly for the Singaporean market) and that's how she wields her influence - when she says, "buy this beauty product because I said so", her fans run to the shops with their Sing dollars to buy that product. That's how she makes her money - people listen to her because they like her. And she isn't the only influencer on social media in Singapore, there are plenty of others, but she is undoubtedly the most successful one who has made a very successful living for herself.
And remember, just because you don't like her or are influenced by her ... just think about Justin Bieber and the way he is super successful.
PS. I can't stand Bieber. But I cannot deny his success.
That's what I am saying. I can't stand any of the people you mentioned, but they are making millions, so they should continue whatever they are doing because people will continue to make them rich. If someone pays me millions of dollars to endorse products, and I have to keep up an interesting but bimbo image, heck ya! I'd do that. So, I do not get what Dakota was saying --- that she should stop her nonsense because she is a mother. It is her nonsense and drama and controversy that keeps her diva image alive. Because she is a mother, she has to work harder at her job. She is raking in money for her child's future and her own. What if her husband leaves her? Guess what? She'd be just fine because she is an independent woman who knows how to sell herself --- Falling Snow Xia Xue. That is her biggest product. To keep that product current and relevant, she has to stir crap now and then. I get it. I accept it. I can't stand her, but I say, good for her. Alex, I can't stand Justin Beefcakes either. I suspect he may be just playing up his bad boy image too. Regardless, that boy is set for life if he has a good manager.
DeleteDakota
DeleteI am just curious, why would you think that Dash will be subjected to 'bullying and isolation'? Would you dismiss Anna Nicole's daughter because of the mother? One more thing, I don't think ANYONE will dare mess with XX and Dash. I saw the mother and son at an indoor playground, I didn't even dare look them in their eyes LOLOLOL.
Hiya, let me jump in and reply. It is a very human reaction lah. When you don't like someone (the way Dakota doesn't like Xiaxue), you assume the worst possible scenario will befall them. I think it's a Chinese tradition where you 'curse' someone (我咒你) - so in my primary school, we would say 我咒你PSLE fail! Of course, that's just a Chinese tradition whereby one verbalizes our evil wishes on the other party. It is intended to insult, mock, upset and anger the other party.
DeleteHence I think Dakota is merely doing a very Chinese thing, she is cursing Xiaxue out aloud (well, online on my blog) in the 我咒你 tradition. She is cursing Xiaxue's son, she wishes that he will be subjected to bullying and isolation at school - now please note that in this context, this is not a 'prediction' per se, but more a curse by Dakota. So it has far less to do with reality than you think, it just reflects Dakota's intense hatred of Xiaxue.
Chinese cultural lesson over!
Such is the psychology of wishes - if you tell me "hey Limpeh, i am going to take my driving test tomorrow, I really wanna pass." I might then sit down with you and give you tips on what you ought to look out for during the driving test and by the end of that conversation, I would have tried so hard to fill you with optimism and hope that I would personally believe that you would definitely pass your driving test. But you see, that's me being influenced by my desire for a certain outcome - I really want you my friend to do well in your driving test, that's why I start to believe, "oh yeah gobbledegook is a good driver, no problem."
DeleteSo you get the idea, when you really want something to happen (be it a negative outcome or a positive one, as in the driving test example) we start to believe that YES we are going to get the outcome we want, we convince ourselves that it is going to happen the way we want it to happen to the point where we ignore the fact that some of our hopes may be wishful thinking, but we believe in it anyway.
In this case, Dakota is motivated by hatred of Xiaxue and possibly anger as well... but certainly, given how little we all know about the precise circumstances of Dash's life (who are his classmates, what are they like, who are the parents of his classmates, what are Dash's teachers like, what is the general environment of his school) - no, we do not know any of that information, so it is at best impossible to guess what may happen. Thus all these postulations and predictions on Dakota are baseless - as they are based on her hatred of Xiaxue, rather than any concrete facts about Dash's current circumstances.
Human psychology lesson over!
Heck, Dash is so young right now, He is exactly 1 year 6 months 2 weeks old.. He is not old enough for any kind of school. He will turn 2 in May 2015.
DeleteMost preschool playgroups start accepting children from the age of 3, though some may start accepting children from the age of 2.5 for kids who are more advanced (or parents who simply need someone to take care of their kids when they are at work). In any case, if you show up with a kid who is just 1 year 7 months old (Dash's current age in January 2015), then they will say, "please come back in about a year at least, he is way too young."
And yes, I verified Dash's date of birth.
So right now, Dash is effectively a BABY at the tender age of 18 months, he is waaaaaay too young for any kind of school, kindergarten or even playschool/preschool!
Thus the precise circumstances that Dash will face in a few years when he is ready for preschool/kindergarten is a big unknown - we're talking about something that will happen in minimum one year (when Dash is at least 2 years 6 months - and that's pushing it, most people wait till the child turns 3).
And good grief, when you look at children at that age of around 2.5 years to 3 years: how infants thaaaat young interact with each other is a lot more ... basic, far less complex than say teenagers function. These kids are barely toilet trained at that age, it is already a triumph if they don't pee/poo themselves - you wanna talk about the complexities of isolating/ostracizing someone on the basis of whom their parents are? Oh please.
As for what will happen in the future for Dash - who knows? I don't know. We're talking about an 18 month old baby now and Dakota wants to start making predictions about what will happen when he is in primary school, secondary school etc? Does she have a crystal ball? She doesn't, I don't - nobody knows what the future may hold for Xiaxue and Dash (whom I stress is an 18 month old BABY today).
Thus that's why I think Dakota's taking this 'Chinese curse' to quite an extreme with her predictions.
Dakota, he's an 18 year old baby in nappies. If you have a functioning crystal ball that can accurately predict the future, I suggest you set up shop as a fortune teller. I can tell you for a fact that you CANNOT predict what may happen to Dash in the future - all you're doing is cursing an 18 month old baby, which does come across as a rather cruel thing to do, to pick on a baby like that.
Hi Limpeh, I really love your analysis on the saga, particularly the bits about Gushcloud's crisis management.
ReplyDeleteNot sure whether you have read the entire GC whatsapp conversation that was exposed yesterday? Things are looking pretty bad for some of the GC influencers and ultimately GC as a whole. Honestly, they should have owned up earlier. I highly doubt that if they apologize now they can win public's trust. They will still be shamed for their lies, their attempt to pull a pretentious classy fight and their last minute scramble to gain sympathy by apologizing.
Speaking to Xia Xue? I dont really think so. This only works when Xia Xue's underlying intention of exposing GC was to protect what she calls "her industry" from being contaminated by unethical practices.May be she does feel strongly about that too but you see the post is really personal. Why did she choose Yan KayKay (her ex-bff) to compare her the you tube stats with and not any other GC influencers? Why Kay Kay's blog for putting the banner? Vincent Ha once called her a liar and she had to do something to have the last word. I believe that GC would never be able to negotiate a good deal with XX because all she ever wanted was to bring GC down and destroy its credibility. Completely. Here is a woman who spent the entire year plotting her investigation, put crazy loads of effort in collecting evidence and even went to the extent of making Christmas such a miserable time for so many people, a nice little sweet talk could not save GC. And good lord, after the whatsapp conversation was exposed, taking XX into being the bigger person and letting the whole thing go would be the last thing that GC should do.
I am really curious as to what GC's next move would be. Probably keeping mum? GC is really unlucky. Seriously, if Vincent Ha had not accidentally provoked XX, may be he would not have spent his Christmas vetting that useless official response.
Hello Maimai and thanks for your comment. It is nearly impossible to read all of GC's whatsapp conversation as it just goes on forever and most of it is just senseless drivel in bad English. The leaking of their whatsapp chat puts them in very, very bad light - they said some things in private which makes them look really vindictive and bad, but they would have never said half of those things if they knew it would be leaked to the public. I think the chance to apologize has come and gone - they have missed that boat.
DeleteCan Xiaxue bring GC down? I don't think so. She can inflict a lot of pain and damage, sure - but she won't destroy them completely lah. Not that I wanna pour scorn on their industry (which can't be further removed from the kind of world I move in) but I see these 19 to 22 year old influencers with super hot bodies (and plastic surgery to look more Angmoh, guess who started the trend? Xiaxue herself.) promoting stuff like make up, fashion, bags, accessories etc to other young women (target age group 15 to 25) - we're talking about rich kids with money who don't really care that much about integrity but are more obsessed with fashion trends. I tried to scroll through Tammy Tay's blog and I was so bored - but evidently, she is successful with her target audience so I don't wanna knock something just because I don't personally like what she does as she has clearly found a lot of people who are her fans.
These 'influencers' - (and I include Xiaxue) I find them strange. They all look so Angmoh with their plastic surgery (especially those eyes and I can spot a nose job from a mile away). Yet the moment they open their mouths, they sound like some Ah Lian from Toa Payoh. (And I include Xiaxue in that.) Look, I'm genuinely Eurasian (I even have the DNA test results), I have a British passport, I've lived half my life in Europe, when I speak several European languages fluently, but I am a banana: I am so white on the inside and I still look pretty Asian on the outside given that I'm still more than 3/4 Chinese. But these people are white on the outside but so Asian on the inside, it's weird. That's plastic surgery for you - and I had thought that it was what was on the inside that counts?
As for GC's next move, I think the ball is actually in Xiaxue's court. They have issued an official response (albeit a crap one), now let's see what she will do next.
PS. At least my blog was mentioned on their whatsapp chat - so the people at GC are reading Limpeh's blog, LOL.
DeleteStrange i would never consider the demography of LIFT blog to include GC people or influencers. In fact the only reason i follow your blog and a few other ex-Singaporeans is because I'm sick of PAP and looking for means and ways to get out of Singapore.
Deletehttp://mothership.sg/2014/12/someone-leaked-gushclouds-whatsapp-group-chat-showing-conversations-after-xiaxue-went-to-war-with-them/
DeleteLIFT you can read some of the choice highlights from the saga.=D
Oh that's yesterday's news and I had read it already. It's just mostly drivel that went on and on and on for far too long. At least they included a link to my blog in there.
DeleteI really enjoy reading your blog. Wish I have found it much earlier. It's really entertaining!
ReplyDeleteCheers,
Not an Ah Lian
Toa Payoh
I think Nuffnang is equally guilty of the same unethical practises that they accuse Gushcloud of but has only recently tighten their protocols before launching an attack on their rival to bring them down. Today is was revealed by SMRT Feedback that Nuffnang cash balance is just 10K more than Gushcloud's but Gushcloud is now slightly profitable but Nuffnang is still making losses. Why accuse your rival of being unable to meet their financial obligation when your company is in similar financial health unless you have an agenda.
ReplyDeleteXiaxue’s accusation that Kaykay brought fake youtube views are based on circumstantial evidence and it is up to the audience to judge whether her interpretation is true. But of course Gushcloud produced solid evidence to rebut her so xiaxue fails miserably on this point.
As for allegations of inflated pageviews, Gushcloud says that the tracking link xiaxue put on their influencer’s blog does not show the accurate numbers and differs from the influencer’s own Google Analytics and her tracking. Until both of their produce watertight evidence that their analytics are accurate, I will assume that their numbers are false.
Vincent did apologise for giving inflated earnings to the media and explained that as a startup, any revenue that comes in must be used to pay vendors. If they really cannot meet their financial obligations, they would have filed for bankruptcy like Borders already. I think Gushcloud have responded well to the accusations except for the Dong Chu SL case. In my opinion, any discerning blog reader with some intelligence will know not to trust all products recommendations as genuine and unpaid. Bloggers will not recommend anything for free. Think about it. Would any blogger recommend Maybelline cosmetics without getting paid for it only to find out the next day L’oreal is interested in their services. Why would the blogger want to forego potential opportunities. What would their readers think of them if they always flip flop between brands? As for not trying out the services of the personal trainer, Yilin only said she wanted to give it a try. There was no review, no good or bad comments, just a FYI ad. There is no element of dishonesty on her part. If anything Gushcloud should take all the blame for failing to confirm that the company exists. Funny thing is Xiaxue was also exposed previously by stomp for masking ads.
All the mudslinging does not good for the influencers community. In the end sponsors will view them as childish vindictive people who won’t give their products a good image.
We await further news from SMRT Feedback, things can only get more interesting.