Thursday 22 May 2014

CPF Part 3: the Cheese Cake Conundrum

Since TRS has reproduced one of my recent article this website, I have received a reply from the person who has started this whole series in the first place, Mr "Vto PAP". Firstly, here is his reply to me.

"Limpeh FT, I have been following your articles and blog. First, just to let you know, I have built my retirement nest way before you started NS. What kind of financial gains can I expect from the government when I started out? Join grassroot/RC/CCC, not my cup of tea. My only 'gain' from it was to befriend those army friends and buddies, pp of different backgrounds and races. Most are still in contact. When I served NS, rewards and financial gains certainly did not crossed my mind. I just want to serve and get on with life. Post-NS, apart from my first HDB flat, I have never applied for any public assistance, bursary, scholarship. I came from humble background with 11 family members. My belief is that no one own me or owe my anything, let the deserving ones have the public assistance. Any vouchers, given prior to any GE, that I received go to charities.

I can retire today with my overseas properties, why do I choose to stay in Singapore? I still have loved one in Singaporeans. Family members, friends of all ethnic race, of different backgrounds. I don't know about you Limpeh FT, to me they are priceless and irreplaceable. I can work overseas, but family ties would still beckon me back some day. In reality, not many Singaporeans can migrate like you and me. Should I abandon them and live my own lives? Morally, I can't. I have never encouraged anyone to migrate but to seek overseas postings. To uproot a family required sheer determinations, support and consensus from them. Maybe it is my upbringing, they shown me love, passion, honesty and most importantly, to be selfless!!! Time to contribute, play my part, right the wrongs, live an honest life and have an safe environment for future generations to spout and thrive, just like my forefathers had done. VTO!!!"
The cheese cake reference will soon become very clear...

OK let me summarize what 'Vto PAP' has said, basically he has many friends and family who love him - he wants to remain in Singapore to be with them. I get it - it is a very common motivation for many Singaporeans to stay in Singapore despite being unhappy with the system. He's hardly the only one in this situation. However, his attitude reminds me of a story I heard a while ago - I am going to call this the cheese cake conundrum. This is a true story (taken from one of those medical/health reality TV-documentaries featuring real patients).

There was this fat guy who loved all kinds of cakes - chocolate cake, black forest cake, fruit cake, ice cream cake, cupcakes, red velvet cake but in particular, he adored cheese cake which he ate in huge quantities. Now his love of cheese cake has led to a serious weight problem and this fat guy's doctor warned him, "you must stop consuming so much cheese cake, it is so fattening. It is full of fats and sugars, you cannot eat so much of it everyday. If you want to lose weight, you must give up cheese cake or at least only have a slice once in a while. You really must lose weight."
Our protagonist has a love for cakes.

The fat guy looked at the doctor in disbelief, "but I love my cheese cake! It gives me this warm and fuzzy feeling each time I bite into the cheese cake, that familiar taste and smell that brings back happy childhood memories. I can't give up cheese cake doctor, it is too important to me. Is there some kind of fat-free, sugar-free cheese cake that I can enjoy without putting on weight? Is there a medicine I can take to allow me to continue eating a lot of cheese cake without putting on weight?" The doctor looked at the fat guy sternly. "Listen, let me make it clear to you. Either you stop eating so much cheese and lose some weight, or you can continue eating yourself to an early grave."

Back to 'Vto PAP' - this guy loves his friends and family in Singapore. I get it. Hello, you're not the only one with friends and family in Singapore. I grew up in Singapore too - I am the Ah Beng from Ang Mo Kio. My parents and siblings are still in Singapore (along with my mother's side of the family) and I do keep in touch with plenty of old classmates and ex-NS friends via Facebook. On my visits to Singapore, I do enjoy catching up with them and for the record, I also really hate the PAP's system. And so we have the cheese cake conundrum. Now allow me put them side by side.
He likes cupcakes too.

Option 1: Stop eating cheese cake all the time and only have a slice once in a while - this reduced calorie intake will allow the fat guy to lose weight and become healthier. The price he has to pay is that he will miss eating his favourite cheese cake if he wants to lose weight.
Option A: Move out of Singapore and only visit my family and old friends once in a while - moving away will allow me to be free of the PAP's system and enjoy my new found freedom in another country. The price I have to pay is that I will miss my friends and family if I want to have this freedom.

Option 2: Continue eating cheese cake all the time - the fat guy may have the short term pleasure of enjoying his favourite cake, but he will gain a lot of weight and literally eat himself to an early grave. The price he has to pay is that he will suffer ill health and an early death.
Option B: Stay in Singapore to be close to your friends and family - but in doing so, you have to accept that the PAP is in charge of Singapore and you will have to abide by their rules. The price you have to pay to be close to your friends and family is to live under the PAP's rule (NS, CPF, foreign talents, HDB, COE etc).
This is my homemade Malteser brownie.

May I state the obvious? There isn't an option 3/C where you can continue eating vast amounts of cheese cake and still lose weight or continue living in Singapore and change the political system to suit your needs. Quite literally, you can't have your cake and eat it. Mind you, I prefer the Albanian version of the same expression which is "te hysh ne uje e te mos lagesh" (you can't take a swim and not get wet - ie. you either swim and get wet or stay dry and not swim) and the French version, "vouloir le beurre et l'argent du beurre" - to want the butter and the money (from selling) the butter. The fact is, in life, there is always a price to pay and we have to make hard choices between having one thing or another but you cannot have both.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I condone the PAP's system or that I like what they are doing - I clearly do not. I have so little faith in the PAP's system that I decided to leave Singapore and try my luck in another country - and I am so happy I made that choice as things have worked out great for me in the UK and as I look at what is happening in Singapore today under the PAP, I am so freaking happy that I am no longer a Singaporean. Such is life, so many people fool themselves into thinking that they have the power to make things better when the obvious thing to do is to simply accept that they have to make some hard choices given the circumstances. Let me give you an example from my personal experience when I had made such a mistake when I had made a similar error of judgement.
There is often a price to be paid for us to get what we want.

I once worked for this company and thought that I had a good job - I was making rather good money, I was in the industry I wanted to be in but the bosses were demanding and unreasonable. I was scolded, I was taken for granted, I was not appreciated, even when I did things well they went unnoticed, I was blamed for crap I didn't do - it was not a good working environment. I fooled myself into thinking that things would get better, I thought I could earn the bosses' trust, I thought that they would get to know me and trust me more over time, I thought that I could prove myself to the management over time if I worked hard and remained loyal to the company. And so I busted my ass in that tough environment and tried really hard - thankfully the money was good as I was so unhappy working there.

After 5 years, I finally realized - it's been 5 years and I am still being treated like crap - nothing improved and nothing is ever going to improve. I either stay here for the money (and accept being treated like crap) or I leave and hope that the next job would be better. But there wasn't a third option, there isn't a third option where I stayed and improve the working conditions and relationship with the management - it simply didn't exist and I had to accept the truth that even if I stayed at that company for another 10 years, I would still be treated like crap. So I made the hard decision to go - given that my loyalty was not rewarded in that company and the working conditions never improved, I saw little point in staying when I could be a lot happier doing something else. The opportunity cost of staying had become too great.
What is the opportunity cost of going this way instead of that way?

Gosh, if I couldn't even improve my working conditions in a small company, how is someone like 'Vto PAP' going to take on not just the PAP but the 60.14% of Singaporeans voters who do support the PAP? Time for a reality check here Just how much influence do you think you have - would screaming and shouting on social media change anything? Just because you love your friends and family doesn't mean you are going to get the kind of government you want - there is no correlation between the two. Your love for your friends and family is sweet - but it does little to alter the realities of the political situation in Singapore.

As for our friends and family, that this is something we have to create for ourselves through hard work. I remember when I was back in NS, there was this odd ball who kept to himself and had virtually no friends. He just didn't have the social skills to make friends and was awkward around people. (I'm sure you all know someone like that from work or from school.) Friends don't just happen - you have to make a genuine effort to be nice to someone before they will want to be your friend, you have to invest in that relationship. By that token, it doesn't matter if you a living on the street you grew up on or if you are living halfway around the world, you still have to make that same kind of effort if you want to create a meaningful network of friends in your life. There are Singaporeans who have little/no friends in Singapore because they simply have not made the effort to create that network of meaningful relationships in their lives.
Have you invested in the relationships you value?

So Mr 'Vto Pap' has friends and family in Singapore that love him - that's great,  it's better to have somebody somewhere to love you than to have nobody anywhere to give a shit about you. Let's not take that for granted - gosh, think about the people in this world who do not have friends and family who love and cherish them. So if he wants to be in Singapore to be with the people he loves, great - but do acknowledge that this will come at a price, the same way the fat guy who indulges in cheese cake is paying a price in giving in to his love for cheese cake. Is that fair? Probably not - but then again, whoever said life was fair? Why did the fat guy fall in love with cheese cake rather than something healthy and low-fat like raw carrots or apples?I have to state the obvious here - life simply isn't fair.

As for the actions of our forefathers, I fear that 'Vto Pap' is seeing them through rose-tinted lenses. Oh pullease. Time for a reality check please. Let me quote what he wrote, "Time to contribute, play my part, right the wrongs, live an honest life and have an safe environment for future generations to spout and thrive, just like my forefathers had done." Let me give you a bit of a history lesson here 'Vto Pap' - my parents were born in British Malaya (my dad was born in Johor, my mum in Singapore - but it was all part of the same country then). Singapore as an independent country did not exist until 1965, three of my grandparents were born in China and only my maternal grandmother was born in Singapore. I believe that it is time for a brief history lesson for our dear friend, Mr 'Vto Pap'.
Is 'Vto Pap' seeing our history through rose tinted lenses?

Given that the concept of 'Singapore' as a country didn't exist until well into my parents' adulthood, 'Vto Pap' is at best exaggerating when he refers to his "forefathers" - when it could be at best his parents who contributed to any kind of nation building. And as for his 'forefathers' - did they all spend their lives contributing? Righting wrongs? Living an honest life and creating a safe environment for future generations to spout and thrive? Good grief, is this guy descended from a family of superhero crime fighters? Somehow, I doubt it. Let's take my maternal grandfather for example. His life fascinated me despite the fact that I never met him as he died years before I was born. 

He was born in China and was sold as a child to a rich family where he was kept as a domestic servant by this rich family. As a young man, he was sold as slave labour to Singapore where he had to work off the debt of his passage before he gained his freedom. He then met my grandmother and as if things were not hard enough for my poor grandpa, WW2 broke out and the Japanese rolled into Singapore. He worked on a small farm in Bukit Timah and then after the war, he started a small business - buying and selling items like handkerchiefs, hair clips and other small items. He wasn't a particularly good market trader and times were hard, there was barely enough food on the table and my mother remembered going hungry a lot as a child - in fact she suffered from malnutrition. My grandfather had been sick since the war and he died soon after - my grandmother was then a widow with seven children. Imagine being a widow with seven children to raise, my grandmother had a very hard life too especially after my grandfather's death.
Yes so whilst my grandfather had a very hard life. But did he right wrongs? No he didn't. He wasn't some kind of crime fighter - certainly when the Japanese troops rolled into Singapore, he didn't take up arms and fight the Japanese. He chose not to, unlike the many brave volunteers who put up a very brave resistance against the Japanese onslaught (most of them were killed in the process). Did he live an honest life? Well, there are things I cannot write here, but no he wasn't completely honest - but he did what he had to do to get by during hard times. Did he create a safe environment for future generations? Oh please, he barely put enough food on the table for his family and often they went hungry. And you want to talk about such lofty, noble ideals? Get real. Time for a reality check, please.

If you were descended from someone like Tan Tock Seng or Lim Bo Seng, then fair enough. But most of us have fairly ordinary forefathers who were more concerned about bread and butter issues like paying the bills and putting enough food on the table, rather than any kind of grand acts of charity or nation building. Why is 'Vto Pap' seeing his so-called 'forefathers' through such rose tinted lenses when most of them were ordinary folk like my grandfather who probably had a hard life, struggling to make ends meet and were hardly the kind of noble heroes that 'Vto Pap' tried to make them out to be? My late grandfather wasn't a noble hero, nor was he a bad person - he was just an ordinary person who had a hard life and didn't achieve much. He had the odds stacked against him, he was born poor, he remained poor and he died relatively young due to poor health. Would you consider a man like that a hero?

So in summary: life isn't fair, life is massively unfair, life can suck and it often does. There may be things in life that you do cherish and value but they would often come at a price - so if 'Vto Pap' cherishes his family and friends enough, then he must be prepared to pay the price to live in Singapore and accept the rule of the PAP (who let's face it, are still a legitimately elected government). His reluctant to pay the price suggests that his love for his friends and family may not be as profound as he thought. Instead of confronting that disturbing thought, he is seeing his place in Singapore through rose tinted lenses - it does sound like he needs to sit down and think through this properly instead of simply blaming the PAP for everything. (And I say this as a person who hates the PAP.)

Here's a true story about a simple woman who understood what paying the price to be with her family meant. My sister has a Burmese maid from Myanmar back in 2008 - she had come from a very poor village in the Irrawaddy delta and was happy to be working in Singapore. She had a roof over a head, three meals a day and medical care - these may seem like basic things to most Singaporeans but to a poor maid from Myanmar, she had never had such a comfortable life. Then in 2 May 2008, cyclone Nargis struck Myanmar, causing a death toll over 138,000. The Burmese maid's village was destroyed by the cyclone and she lost many family members - for weeks, we couldn't even get any news from her village given the total devastation of the area. She cried everyday as she feared for the worst.
The Burmese maid was nearing the end of her contract and asked to return to Myanmar - my sister warned her that she would be giving up a relatively comfortable life in Singapore to return to her village which had been destroyed by the cyclone. She would undoubtedly face a very hard life in Myanmar compared to Singapore and my sister offered to renew her maid's contract, but the Burmese maid politely refused. She felt she needed to be with the surviving members of her family and take care of them and as for the hardship in Myanmar after the cyclone - well, that was a price she was willing to pay to be with her family. See? This simple lady understood what it meant to have to pay a price to be with one's family - 'Vto Pap' doesn't seem to grasp that concept. It isn't that complex, really.

So what happened in the fat guy's case? He accepted that it was the cheese cake (along with other sweet treats) that was making him morbidly obese but he didn't want to live a life where he was denied the pleasure of eating what he loved. So against his doctor's advise, he continued eating what he liked, when he wanted and literally ate himself to death as he became morbidly obese. You could say he died happy, doing exactly what he loved most - but more to the point, unlike 'Vto Pap', at least our fat guy understood that there was a price to be paid if he wanted to do what he loved most and he was willing to pay the price. 'Vto Pap' doesn't seem to grasp that concept - can you? Please do let me know by leaving your thoughts in the comments section below, thank you very much for reading.

21 comments:

  1. Hi Limpeh,

    After reading the articles, I fully agree with what you said.

    There are prices we need to pay for every action that we took.

    For me, that is the price I pay by coming to Singapore and work.

    Compare to Malaysia, at least what we do in Singapore will be a lot better than be in Malaysia where we are discriminated a lot by being called as "Immigrant Race", "Jews Of Asia", "Traitors".

    At least in Singapore, we can depend on our qualification and ability to go up the ladder instead of depending on our skin colour in Malaysia.

    Speaking of CPF, if the people are not willing to contributes towards CPF, there are many jobs offer in Singapore where we do not need pay at all. Among the jobs are Multi-level Marketing jobs, Financial Consultant and jobs that provide full commissions only. Not happy with the system, you can choose that jobs that go against the systems.

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    1. Hi Kelvin, you've made a really good point about jobs that do not require CPF contributions. Another option of course, is to leave Singapore and work abroad. Heck, I think about my old school mates (I'm in touch with them thanks to Facebook) and they're working in so many different places: Bangkok, Sydney, China, California, Germany, Switzerland, the UK, Canada, Japan ...

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  2. It is hard to understand why VTO is so dense that he can't see clearly the choices he has made in life. Very often, I would hear from old friends in Singapore who would brag about how his/her university degree has helped them made it big. They have the 5Cs, while my husband and myself with many degrees between us are struggling in middle class Canada. Yet I know that that was the choice we made. A degree means little in Canada. Plumbers make more money! Would I have chosen to live in Singapore for the 5Cs? No. VTO chose SIngapore. Then live with it. There is a price to pay for everything. As for morality ... how did that become a factor? Unless he's leaving his spouse and young children, he's not abandoning anyone. Friends come and go. Friends can be visited. Moms and Dads and siblings too. Hardly a reason NOT to migrate. If you choose Singapore, then live with the stupidity of the PAP. Do not judge others who leave the country.

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    1. Hi Di - glad to have someone share my point of view! The whole morality thing is so such a poorly presented argument I laughed when I first read it. This guy is ridiculous.

      I have worked in different countries across the world, with people from so many different countries and guess what? You can make friends with people anywhere you go - you need to identify people you have something in common with, people who are on the same wavelength as you and you will naturally click with them.

      What I find disturbing is that he is so keen to hold on to old friends that he doesn't think about making new ones - I accept that friends come and go. As I scroll through Facebook and see what old friends get up to, I think, "when was the last time s/he said something to me on Facebook, never mind actually bother seeing me in person?" Some people do make an effort to see me regularly, others don't - and I always enjoy making new friends. VTO sounds like an old man who is so stuck in his ways to the point where he doesn't contemplate the opportunity cost of him choosing to live in Singapore.

      And like you said, if he does choose to live in PAP-land, then just pay the price for it and enjoy being in Singapore. This reminds me of this American family I ran into whilst staying in a 5 star hotel in Oman - it was a gorgeous hotel but rather expensive (I got a great deal for the hotel because I was flying with Oman Air to KL). I could overhear the American mother complain non-stop about the price from the breakfast table to pool to the beach to the restaurant - everything was too expensive and a rip off and not good value for the money they paid. And I was like, good grief woman, you've already decided to stay at this hotel, you are already here, you may as well just forget about the price you had to pay to be here and just enjoy the facilities. You could be enjoying yourself but instead you wanna moan and bitch about the price? Just accept that 5 star hotels are going to be expensive and that's the price you have to pay if you wanna stay at a 5 star hotel.

      VTO is just like that American woman. Instead of enjoying his time with his friends and family (whom he is supposed to love so much), he spends his time complaining and whining about the PAP non-stop. Geez man, take a break already and go take your family for ice kachang or cendol already...

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    2. was about to comment that action or inaction is a choice and everyone should accept the price and consequences of their choices but you guys already covered it

      Don't you think the morality angle is really quite distasteful? it becomes an attempt to scapegoat his loved ones for his inability to bite the bullet and leave, and then he cloaks it in some self righteous spiel abt righting the wrongs etc "VTO!!"

      I have no issue with him telling others to quit the party, but this kind of whining and ranting does not bring about regime change

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    3. Well yes Alfred, I thought the whole morality thing was so over the top VTO effectively discredited himself. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Singapore without the PAP in charge, but I am not going to blindly agree with any crap VTO spouts just because we both don't like the PAP.

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  3. You just got to accept that not many Singaporeans are the thinking sort. Just go read some of the comments and criticisms in the TRE and TRS. Can feel the frustrations but the thinking (lack of) behind can be really cringe worthy. Anyway, let VTO be, he has made his choice and trying to rationalise it. No worries. In life, between good, fast and cheap, you can only choose two. Literally the equivalent to that hokkien term 愛便,愛鮮,愛大粒奶, you can have your cake and eat it but you can't have no weight gain.

    Yup, you are right, the real enemy is the 60.1% unthinking folks and the 39.9% who never realized they need to persuade the unthinking rather than curse out at the PAPs. Have long accepted that one can only do what he thinks is right in his life, no point to worry about what your neighbour is doing, just got to respect their choice although you can dislike their daftness

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    1. Hi Shane, thanks for your comment. Yeah that's my frustration with VTO, He doesn't get it. The irony is that he has in fact already paid the price by choosing to be in Singapore so he may as well just enjoy the nicer aspects of living in Singapore instead of bitching endlessly about the PAP. It's not all bad you know, sure there are problems, but you knew about those problems, you know there is a price to pay, you could have chosen not to pay the price by going to live elsewhere but since you've already gone down this road, you may as well enjoy the journey.

      I would direct you also to the comment I left for Di Talasi earlier about the American woman I encountered in the 5 star hotel in Oman who had a miserable time bitching about everything in the hotel despite having paid a lot of money to enjoy what was in fact a very nice hotel but she was just determined to find fault with something, anything. It's like there's this small vase of flowers in the dining area. She walked towards it and noticed that the flowers were in fact artificial (plastic/cloth) and she started bitching, "at this price, for a 5 star hotel, they should use real flowers, not artificial plastic ones!" And I was like, geez woman, until you started ranting about that vase of flowers, I didn't even notice them...

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    2. @Shane, please do not go down this line of blaming the 40%. You can't convince people to change their beliefs and it only causes more hostility. Its scientifically proven:
      http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/mariakonnikova/2014/05/why-do-people-persist-in-believing-things-that-just-arent-true.html?utm_source=www&utm_medium=tw&utm_campaign=20140519

      You would roll eyes at the shit I've heard over the years to justify voting PAP. From them allowing you to go to school for free, they founding SG and giving you prosperity, they will trace your vote and give you bad HDB queue and deny your 1st choice primary school, they will sack you if you work in civil service, etc. Why argue with these people and grow old faster? I pick my battles, thank you.

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    3. Well Choaniki, let me share this with you.

      I have an ex-JC classmate who went out of his way to help me when I returned to Singapore to work for 6 months in 2011. It was the first time I had worked in Singapore since I ORDed in 1997 (I went to university abroad and never worked in Singapore till 2011) and this guy opened up his address book, set up meetings for me with potential local distributors and couldn't be nicer about helping me despite the fact that we last saw each other in person during our army days.

      Then I found out - oh shit, he is a fervent PAP supporter and is a volunteer with the PAP. Oh for crying out aloud.

      He is a smart and successful guy and I don't want to offend him by telling how I feel about the PAP - especially after how he went out of his way to help me. I just avoid any talk of politics when I talk to him now.

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    4. Actually, I hate to say this, but from my observations, a lot of people from my secondary school and junior college days are divided into a few groups of people possibly: 1) the rabidly fervent PAP supporter who will not be rocked no matter what; 2) the angry/pissed/simply rational and cynical anti-PAP and pro-opposition voter; 3) the one who just cannot be bothered and will vote for the status quo--PAP again--simply because they are worried about rocking the boat. Groups 1 and 3 are sadly the majority, and even do much much better than the second group in various aspects of life, probably because they simply do not challenge the status quo whatsoever and even abet it to the extent of using it to their advantage or thriving upon it. As for those who basically are out of the country working and living abroad, such as me, regardless of whether we have garnered citizenship/permanent residency elsewhere or not, we form the invisible minority who are simply treated as non-existent by the voting department, government, and also, Singaporeans in the country who deem people who leave as 'quitters' and 'traitors'. It is reality (socio-political or not) that Singapore's fate and future needs to be decided by those who decide to stay on in it, and well, I rarely talk to former classmates and schoolmates anyway, since we have virtually nothing in common. When a former schoolmate told me and another friend of mine via Facebook that a former secondary schoolmate is now serving with the Youth PAP in East Coast GRC, and identified him inside the video link he gave us, my reaction was actually, "Who is that? I don't remember anyone from high school anymore." LOL.....

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  4. PAP and the rat race aside, there are many things to be enjoyed in Singapore. Old family and friends as VTO mentioned. Great local food, blah, blah, ... , so you are right, just take a break and go for ice kachang/cendol. YUMZ! Personally, the friends I had --- I no longer have much in common anymore. Sure, I would love to meet up again, but my friends here are the ones I can relate to. And life overseas is so much more adventurous. Back to VTO: you make your bed, now you have to lie on it. Might as well enjoy the slumber. No point gripping about it.

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    1. Exactly. The fact that he is in Singapore means that he has already paid the price - the same way that unhappy American woman in the 5 star hotel has already paid the price for staying at that expensive hotel. Just stop whining and enjoy the experience, you've already paid for it, you know.

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  5. I burst out laughing at the part where Vto wrote, "Right the wrongs." Does he suffer from a martyr complex? Actually, the last time, when I was still rather young and attended FCBC where Lawrence Khong had yet to declare himself an 'apostle', and prior to all his current junk and nonsense, there was a moment when he said something of the same vein as Vto, stating that if he was in a situation wherein he had a citizenship or PR and was able to move, he would tear it up and stay in Singapore, allegedly under some mistaken premise that God "had intended him to stay on to minister". It was the point when my eyes started glazing over, because even at that point in university, I was already making exit plans, and had gotten a chance to go on an exchange program just to get myself started. Whatever it is, this 'martyr complex' is silly and does not convince me one bit.....Vto sounds like a really old man though......

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    1. Hahahahaha Kev, I just rolled my eyes when I read the words "right the wrongs" - martyr complex? Superman complex? Does this guy wear spandex with his underwear on the outside to fight in the injustices in society?

      Here's the thing he doesn't understand about democracy - he may not like the outcome of the last election results, he may not like the system, but he should at least respect and accept the results if he wants to live in Singapore. It sucks to be in the minority when it comes to politics, but it is a choice you have to make - if you're really that unhappy with the results, you can leave Singapore. What you cannot do however, is to declare it a mistake and then attempt to "right the wrongs" of society - I do think that the 60.14% of Singaporeans who voted for the PAP have made a grave error of judgement, but by the same token, you have to respect the fact that they have made their choice and whether you like the results or not, that is the way democracy works and the result is what it is: they gave the PAP a mandate to rule for another 5 years.

      And yes, he does sound like a really old man.

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    2. I realized that a lot of Singaporeans are not that logical when it comes to critique-ing things and statements made by people in the public arena. After all, it is all sustained by 'contrarian thinking' in Singapore. ie. the idea that if someone is this way, you must therefore be the opposite(even if it is extreme). If a person knows how to think logically, he or she will probably realize that it is not that extreme. For example, when I read some of Alex Au's posts, I hate to say it but as much as he makes sense in some posts, a lot of his posts are also rather left-wing proto-socialist or subversive rants, including the one in which he said that a flag (as a sign of national identity) should be burnt. And well, even Lawrence Khong, the other side of the debate, is also rather extreme in missing the point even if he wants to get an ethical point across. It is rather crazy extremity at work, such as the instance of Kong Hee's initial investigation in 2011 then by the police. Gilbert Goh was a case of someone who wanted to align himself against the government and the PAP, and hence, by default, implied that the government did not feel at ease about City Harvest Church amassing so much wealth and power. Duhhhh, the media and the government officials involved in sports and the culture and so on had already stated that the case was against individuals, not the church or Christendom at large. What the heck! So much illogical thinking, but no evidence to back it up whatsoever....

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  6. Dude, the Malteser Brownie looks sofa king amazing!

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    1. Hi there! Thank you - it's a simple recipe really, it was a birthday cake for someone who totally loved Matlesers. This is what you do. You follow any recipe for the brownie (plenty of them online), then you dissolve enough baking chocolate with gelatin (powder or leaf, up to you, but do read the instructions as to how much is required to set the chocolate). Then take a pack of maltesers and smash most of them (but keep a few whole to garnish). You then put the smashed maltesers in the choco-gelatin mix and coat the brownie in it. Garnish the malteser-brownie with the whole maltesers.

      You can even create a cake sandwich by slicing the brownie up and layering the brownie with the maltese-choco-gelatin mix. It's going to be real sweet (so much sugar in chocolate to begin with), so I would reduce the amount of sugar that goes into the brownie. Normally I wouldn't make anything this calorie laden but once in a while, I do push the boat out and bake something sinfully chocolatey :)

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  7. In a true global and multicultural world, the colour of the passport is irrelevant. Family bonds and friends succeed any passport or nationality. Limpeh friends and family did not change their opiniin about him when he changed passport. Only restricted and dangerous minds think in terms of nationality.

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  8. LIFT, forgive me for throwing a spanner in the works, but you and Vto PAP seem to be arguing at cross purposes. When did "Vto PAP" explicitly say he was anti-PAP? His moniker could mean "Victory to PAP" otherwise he should have called himself "VTO PAP" instead. His argument with you, sparked by the CPF debate, is about migrating or staying put, not about politics.

    To criticise him for choosing to "suffer in Singapore under PAP rule" just because his family is here, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. He is enjoying a good life here. Just because he disagreed with you doesn't mean he's a complainer. He obviously has no problem meeting the CPF minimum sum, he says he built his retirement nest egg way before you even entered NS, owns several properties and can migrate to any country he wants.

    You took issue with him for saying "I didn't do NS for nothing". You interpreted it as him saying he is actually against NS but didn't want to simply cut his losses after sacrificing >2 years. On the other hand, could he have meant "I served NS to protect my loved ones here" and is pro-NS?

    Not defending him, just explaining that this is what my comprehension skills led me to conclude. Frankly I find him as irrational & irritating as you do; obnoxious & overbearing even. He hasn't the right to judge you for leaving, because to each his own.

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