Tuesday, 18 January 2022

Why I got so frustrated with what my sister said

Okay guys let me get this off my chest, my sister said something so stupid that I just have to rant about it here and it is a mix of poor social skills and sheer ignorance on the topic. I tried hard to explain this to my sister without 'scolding' her for being so wrong so let me share with you what she said and why I feel so strongly about it. It all began with her telling me that my nephew has found a part time job whilst waiting for his enlistment, as you know, Chinese new year is coming soon and a vital part of the Chinese new year festivities is enjoying all kinds of tasty snacks - when you visit your friends and extended family during Chinese new year, you would almost certainly be offered some traditional snacks; companies that sell such snacks do a lot of business in the few weeks in the run up to Chinese new year. So my nephew is working in a Chinese biscuit factory where he is a packer - each pack of biscuits is relatively small, but many packets go into a big box and when a supermarket makes an order, they would receive those big boxes. Thus my nephew's job is straightforward - you simply take the individual packets of biscuits and pack them into the big box, then seal the big box. What my sister said then shocked me, she said that she encouraged my nephew to find new ways to do his job, to increase the efficiency of the process such as by looking at whether or not the division of labour in the factory is efficient or if each worker is placed in the right part of the supply chain. I wanted to scream at her, is this some kind of sick joke?!

Okay, why did I get so angry with my sister? Why was what she said so offensive and stupid? My nephew is an 18 year old kid working along side a lot of poor working class people who have no choice but to do this kind of work to try to make ends meet. He doesn't need the money, his family is very rich but this is the only kind of part time work he can find whilst waiting to start his national service. He is hired as cheap labour to do manual labour, he isn't brought in as some kind of ergonomics consultant to help the company operate more efficiently. He is the joint youngest person working there and virtually all of his colleagues are older than him - what makes my sister think that he is in any position to tell the rest how to do their jobs better? If he made any attempt to do that, it would be an extremely arrogant act that will offend many. I can just imagine some angry, older worker shouting at him, "you think you're so smart, you've done A levels and that gives you the right to come in here and tell us how to work? We'll teach you a lesson." In fact, that's the kind of behaviour that will only make you a target for bullying and needs to be avoided! Why the hell is my sister treating his job as if it is some kind of project at school where he has to impress the teacher by demonstrating that he is engaging his brain in the process and solving problems? He is doing a real job, a working-class low-paid job involving manual labour and his employer is most definitely not a teacher who is interested in mentoring him in the world of business. Hell no, the employer is probably just someone who just wants all their workers to work hard and not ask too many stupid questions.

I have used this phrase before: 轮不到你开口 - it means in Chinese "it is not your turn to speak" but it refers to a situation when it is best to keep your mouth shut as you would be speaking out of turn and saying anything at all would be a very bad idea as nobody cares what you have to say. I think that in such a situation, the best way to behave is to be very humble, polite and respectful to everyone else in the biscuit factory and recognize that you're in a 轮不到你开口 situation. The best case scenario is for my nephew to go in there and make some friends, get a taste of working life and see just how tough life can be for some working class adults out there who depend on this kind of jobs to make ends meet. The worst case scenario however, is for my nephew to go in there like a bull in a china shop as the youngest person on the team trying to tell the bosses how to do their jobs. Why is my sister asking him to treat this like some kind of school project where he is expected to speak up and contribute? Is she totally oblivious to what kind of environment he is working in? Has she never crossed paths with working class folks before? What was she thinking giving my nephew that kind of advice? It would be wise to analyse what kind of response my nephew would get before speaking up in this kind of environment and it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he is in a 轮不到你开口 environment and thus he really shouldn't say anything. My nephew is normally quite shy anyway so I am hoping that his shyness would prevent him from opening his mouth in such a 轮不到你开口 environment - I hope he would not say anything inappropriate there. 

I know that my sister has never crossed paths with working class people before - she went from university into the working world and has never ever been in a work environment where she has had to deal with working class people. In contrast, I've served national service so I know exactly what it is like to live and work with working class people in Singapore. I can just imagine my sister introducing her middle class friends to my nephew and they would probably be really nice to my nephew for a simple reason: they don't feel threatened by him at all and in fact, they might automatically take on a nurturing role and say things like like, "my husband works as an aeronautical engineer and if you want to seriously consider a career that area of engineering, you should come over for dinner sometime and talk to him about it and maybe he could arrange for you to get some work experience in his company as well." So what makes my sister think that working class adults are going to be equally nice? They would probably resent a rich kid who is doing a job like that because he is just bored rather than because he is desperately trying to make ends meet and put food on the table for his family. He is a stark reminder of how just unequal Singaporean society is and I wouldn't count on them being kind to him at all. Heck, I wasn't even from a rich family when I was in the army but I had to really go out of my way to hide the fact that I was bound for a top British university on a scholarship because that would have simply made the target of bullying. Well thankfully - I do speak Hokkien rather fluently and hence I used that skill to my advantage in that situation.

So I am wondering: is my older sister (who is in her 50s for crying out aloud) really that naive about the harsh reality of working class people who face this 轮不到你开口 situation at work? Does she actually believe that all working class people can just put their hands up at their place of work, just like a child in a primary school and get their bosses to listen to their ideas, suggestions and feedback? Is my sister really that extremely naive because she has never ever done a working class job in her life before? Does she even have a single working class friend? The fact is many working class people end up in such terrible jobs because they lack the formal education and training to access better jobs, that's why the end up in very boring, mundane jobs which require hardly any skill at all and they do the same simple, repetitive task over and over again. I've had this discussion with my reader Amanda actually: she was wondering if jobs like that could be replaced by robots in the long run and I said that it really depends on whether or not there's a ready supply of unskilled labour willing to do such jobs for very little money - if that is the case, then the employer has little incentive to invest heavily in expensive machinery to replace that unskilled workforce. Thus people who do end up in such awful jobs are aware that they are at the very bottom of the food chain and recognize that they are in a 轮不到你开口 situation - thus they are never in any position to make any decision; they are conditioned to follow the instructions given to them by their managers; why is my sister so very ignorant about the harsh reality that working class people have to face at work? 

But let me try to look at it from a different angle: is my sister simply trying to play the role of the kind teacher? Allow me to take you back to my primary school - there was a really fat boy in class, let's call him Ah Pui (not his real name, that's Hokkien for 'fatty'). Whenever we played any kind of team sports like football or basketball, the PE teacher would put Ah Pui in a very strong team and make Ah Pui's team play a weak team, so Ah Pui is almost guaranteed victory every time he participates in such sports. I can see what the PE teacher is doing - he wanted to make sure that Ah Pui enjoys himself and has a taste of victory when he does PE, so his experience of sports is a positive one and he would look forward to exercising. However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out exactly what is going on; Ah Pui was simply a part of the winning team, his contribution to the victory is often negligible. There were times when he wouldn't even touch the football or basketball throughout the game and still be declared the winner. Our PE teacher was nice like that, he could have simply gave up on Ah Pui and thought, "yeah that fat kid probably hates sports anyway and he gets tired so quickly, so he can just sit on the bench and watch the other children play." But instead, our PE teacher went out of his way to involve Ah Pui and that was a kind gesture. Is my sister merely behaving like that kind PE teacher by saying, "let's not look down on working class people doing this kind of manual labour, we ought to give them a chance to express themselves. I'm sure that with a bit of encouragement and nurturing, they too would be able to come up with great ideas."

This also reminds me something else from my primary school - there was this girl, let's call her Jenny (not her real name). I think she definitely had some kind of learning disability as she really struggled with even the most basic tasks. I had this really kind teacher Mrs Soh who realized that Jenny needed help and encouragement - no amount of scolding or punishment was going to turn Jenny into a brilliant student. So for example, during English classes, Mrs Soh would go out of her way to involve Jenny and let me give you an example, if we were learning about the past tense. Mrs Soh would ask Jenny, "where did you go last weekend?" Jenny would reply, "I go to my grandmother house." Mrs Soh would then correct her, "Okay, you can say, I went to my grandmother's house or I went to visit my grandmother. Well done Jenny, very good!" If I gave an incorrect answer like that, Mrs Soh would surely chastise me for confusing the present and the past tenses but with Jenny, oh Mrs Soh was just happy to get her participating in the class regardless of whether or not Jenny gave any correct answers - this was because if Jenny was simply left to her own devices, she would stare blankly into space and not learn anything in the class thus Mrs Soh was desperately trying to engage Jenny in the lesson. My sister is assuming that the manager where my nephew is working is as encouraging and kind as Mrs Soh - oh dear. For crying out aloud, Mrs Soh is a primary school teacher tasked with educating Jenny whilst the biscuit factory is a profit making business, not a primary school. The employers at the factory are not there to educate or nurture the workers at all - that is not their responsibility! So what are the chances of my nephew's manager being as kind and caring as Mrs Soh? 

So if my sister was running a biscuit factory, she might be the kind of super nice boss who would go round the factory floor and make sure every single member of staff feels appreciated - she would look them in the eye and say, "I really value your contribution, you're an important member of the team. Thank you so much for all your hard work." I'm sure such nice bosses do exist of course but my sister doesn't run a biscuit factory - no, she manages a team in a very corporate environment where none of her colleagues are doing that kind of working class menial labour type jobs. If she wanted to be the world's kindest and nicest boss, well then she has to open a business which hires people who are struggling to find decent jobs: from ex-convicts to the disabled to refugees and give them a really conducive work environment. But is she doing that? No, she isn't - instead, she is merely making the assumption that other employers out there would share her charitable and benevolent principles. So that's the point when I simply had to challenge her and say, "on what basis are you making this assumption? Do you have any evidence to prove that my nephew's employer is willing to abide by your charitable and benevolent principles?" No, in fact, she has absolutely no evidence or basis to make that assumption at all. So even if we assume that my sister is a really kind and nice person, she is giving my nephew advice on the assumption that his boss and colleagues are as kind as she is - that's a dangerous assumption to make because she has never ever met my nephew's boss nor his colleagues, so the only basis she has to make that assumption is some terribly misguided faith in the goodness of mankind and obviously - I don't share her optimism at all!

Okay, I shall stop here as I really feel bad criticizing my sister like that - my conclusion is that whilst she is undoubtedly motivated by kindness, she is also woefully ignorant and even illogical to make such assumptions. I am very protective of my nephew of course and I feel that his family has the responsibility to guide him, rather than send him out into the world with such bad advice. I suppose if my sister had said something stupid or ignorant in a completely different context, I would have probably kept my thoughts to myself and just ignored it but because this involved my nephew, I reacted like this. After all, my nephew is about to start his national service very soon and I do think such experiences are very useful in preparing him for the new environment he would have to adapt to, but geez as his family, we ought to prepare him for the harsh reality that people are not always going to be kind to him. But what do you think? Have I been way too harsh on my sister? Should my nephew try to speak up in the biscuit factory or should he simply keep his head down and his mouth shut? And if my sister is being way too optimistic, have I gone too far in the other direction in assuming the very worst of those people my nephew is working with? What do you think might happen if my nephew speaks up at work then? Or perhaps, I am just angry that unlike me, my sister has never ever had to deal with really difficult working class people before and thus she doesn't share my pessimism? Please leave a comment below and many thanks for reading.

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  1. Although it must be very annoying to deal with your sister saying something this "ignorant", I think you're right in the fact that your sister has never really encountered severe cruelty/arrogance/stubbornness in a work environment unlike yourself in NS. It's naivety rather than a premeditated intention to give bad advice. However, your sister is also super tolerant of your parents which I just can't understand. I thought that growing up with their cruelty will mean she won't be naive, but I guess she's just such a nice person she expects everyone else to be nice and have good intentions too. I know its very annoying, but I guess she's that one character in a disaster movie who will always play by the rules and trust strangers even if the world is ending.

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    1. Hi Amanda. I think she lacks street smarts because she has never had to deal with really difficult people outside the family - she does deal with my parents all the time so as you've quite rightly pointed out, she does have some experience with adults who turn out to be difficult, unreasonable, unsympathetic and stubborn (to put it mildly). Yet she has this super naive, almost childlike innocence, when it comes to thinking that my nephew's work environment is going to be super nice and that his manager is as kind as Mrs Soh my primary school teacher. Is that how she copes, by seeing the world through rose tinted lenses? If that's how she gets through her day and goes to sleep at night, that's her business and I won't interfere of course - but the moment she uses that mantra to give my nephew really bad advice, that's when I react as I think that's so misleading and unhelpful for my nephew.

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    2. Lol how has your sister survived so far in the corporate world with those rose tinted glasses? To be fair though, it seems like she has an extremely high tolerance that may be to her advantage. A lot of the times, keeping cool at work despite small annoying things others say can go a long way. I suppose that could be just the way she is, but I don't know if your nephew can tolerate retaliation if he does spout off on his opinion at work. I certainly prefer not to invite such trouble, but I guess people like your sister don't mind since she tolerates a lot of BS from your parents already. It also shocks me she's in her 50s and hasn't turned into a Machiavellian cynic like us haha.

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    3. In the wider context of Singaporean society, allow me to analyze what I observe: many Singaporean families only have one child and they then shower that child with attention. It isn't just the parents who do that but the extended family including both set of grandparents and all the uncles & aunties. I remember witnessing this incident at a food court in Singapore when I saw a young boy about 6 with his family, everyone was asking him, "what do you wanna eat? Drink?" And all the adults in the family were rushing to buy the kid anything he wanted - he was like a little emperor. Yeah, that kind of thing happens a lot in a society where people have money and very few children and that has certainly happened with my nephew: he is the only grandchild of my parents and my other sister has no children - thus he showers my nephew with all her love and attention. What I have described is happening not just in Singapore but elsewhere in East Asia as well from China to Taiwan to Hong Kong to South Korea to Japan.

      So a lot of these kids are spoilt brats who live in a consequence free environment. I rolled my eyes so hard I could've fallen off my chair when this happened: this was when my nephew was like 4 or 5. My mother is so fucking desperate for my nephew's love that she did this: she served my nephew some slices of fruit in a plate and then lavished him with praise as if he won an Olympic gold medal for merely eating the fruit she had put in front of him. So you bring up a child like that and then he goes into the army during NS when the people in charge aren't going to praise you for eating the food put in front of you - hell no, quite the opposite, they're going to see my nephew as the privileged rich kid who is the embodiment of wealth inequality in Singapore, like even if he fails all his exams his family still has enough wealth to support him this lifetime. So they fucking hate him and will go out of their way to bully him, even if he has done absolutely nothing to provoke or offend them - that's why rich kids like my nephew have to learn to lie low, shut up and keep a very, very low profile if they are to survive NS. That's why when my sister thought that my nephew could just carry on as if everyone out there is going to be as nice as his doting, loving grandmother who would lavish so much praise on him for merely eating some fruit, like where do I even begin? How do we prepare a kid like that for the real world out there?

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    4. Sorry typo in first paragraph: thus SHE showers my nephew with all her love.

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    5. As for my sister, she has become a senior expert in a niche area so she is not customer facing, she is high enough up the food chain for people to treat her with respect and thankfully, even in stressful situations, people in her company tend to default to a certain degree of decorum and formality - but most of all, because of her very senior position in a niche area, she deals with other specialists who are highly skilled and not unskilled workers (the kind who will end up packing goods in a big factory). With all due respect, good for her for carving herself a niche where she is productive, earns good money and feels perfectly content - she will work there till she retires and how many people have that kind of luxury? When you're in a comfortable position like her, yeah you can afford to put on those rose-tinted glasses if you choose to - there are times she has become so middle class I just roll my eyes because I earn more than her, but sometimes my attitude towards a lot of issues can be still quite working class as that's how I grew up. She has completely lost touch with her working class roots.

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    6. Like she is completely oblivious to the fact that my nephew is now in an extremely working class environment and she still thinks the people he works with would behave in a very middle class way. That's when I roll my eyes and think, oh puuullleeeasse, are you for real?!

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    7. Omg I totally understand the "little emperor" mindset because I grew up with some of those little emperors which I absolutely detest. Especially when they throw tantrums whenever they don't get their way, or offer their unsolicited opinion like it's a Nobel Prize winning lecture. Like it would be fine to raise a little emperor, even if its slightly annoying, but NS is not going to be kind to those kinds of people. Hell I grew up with a guy who is an absolute gentleman and he still had a rough time in NS when the working class kids in his infantry unit found out he was wealthy enough to go to private school with his snobby Australian accent. He quickly learned to shut the hell up and fake a Singaporean accent just to get along with everyone else. I can't imagine how your nephew will navigate that, but I suppose we'll find out.

      Hahaha I grew up with a guy who would bring Cs and Ds home to his parents who would say to him "wow a C! You're such a genius!" Me and my best friend still laugh about it to this day whenever he thinks he's all that. But anyway, I think me and you don't like this kind of "coddling" because its not very humble, and we didn't grow up with much praise anyway. That's fine because we don't expect other people to praise us at work just to motivate ourselves to make money and achieve things, but many kids require praise from the teacher to do things so teachers do coddle them. But yeah if I were a parent or a grandparent, I would rather teach my kid humility than praise them just for eating fruit haha.

      Oh wow your sister is very lucky then, she has lived a very comfortable middle class life with very nice people around her who aren't salty about anything and lash out. But of course she's not really preparing her kid for the real world if she doesn't tell him to be humble or check his surroundings. Maybe she just assumes his life will be as comfortable as hers. If only NS didn't exist haha. In other countries rich kids never have to do NS and will hardly ever meet another working class person who could be in a position to attack them. But after NS it is likely your nephew will go on to live a very comfortable middle class lifestyle. He'll go to university, find a good internship, apply to a good job, and rent an apartment in a wealthy area, etc. It's doubtful he would ever be in a position to socialize with many working class people after NS. I myself hardly know any working class people in my social circle.

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    8. The incident at the food court was so ridiculous - the kid wanted a bubble tea so two of the adults in that party (parents or uncle/aunties etc) ran off to procure the bubble tea for the little emperor. The little emperor was then presented with two drinks and the adults started arguing - one accused the other of getting the wrong tea like, "the one I bought contains exactly the flavour that boy-boy likes! Your tea is the wrong one!" And I'm like holy ravioli, these two grown ass adults are competing to please the little emperor by bringing him the right tea of his choice? It is another world for me as that wasn't my childhood and I would never go out of my way to be that nice to my nephew. I'd give him money for the drink and tell him to go get his own bubble tea - I'm not gonna serve him! What other families do with their children is none of my business, but as you said, if this little emperor turns up at NS and thinks people are going to treat him like a king or if he turns up at a biscuit factory and starts ordering people around as if he is the new boss in town, then holy crap, there's gonna be trouble. A lot of it. This is exactly why I reacted so negatively when my sister suggested that my nephew could try to speak up at work to help run the business more efficiently and I was like, holy shit are you freaking insane or what?

      Clarification time: I have two sisters and the sister who was the topic of this post is not the mother of my nephew but the auntie of my nephew. Like I said, she is a very kind and nice person, but it is quite illogical to think that, "just because I'm a kind soul, I'm gonna assume that everyone in the world out there is just as kind as me." That's quite autistic actually, that's refusing to acknowledge the fact that other people may have a different point of view and would behave quite differently when put in the same situation. I also think that a grown woman in her 50s really should know better and ought not be so ignorant.

      As for your friend who got praised for getting a C, I'm afraid my other sister (ie. the mother of my nephew) went down that same route - urgh. If my nephew got a C or a D, she would hug him and say, "mummy also sucked at her studies, I also struggled like that so I'm totally fine with you getting a C." And I'm like, girl - put whatever issues you have about your self-esteem aside, this is not the time to put yourself down in front of your son. Your mission is to build up his self-confidence to aspire to do better, not put yourself down to make him feel better about getting a poor grade. There are so many instances where I disagree with the way my nephew has been brought up but what can I do? I am just the uncle.

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    9. As for rubbing shoulders with working class people, I do have a lot of working class colleagues at the gymnastics club - you see, I am a volunteer at the gymnastics club. So I keep my staff status but I don't get paid. My university rents the facility from my gymnastics to have training there a few times a week but it is expensive, they can only pay for one coach so the deal I have is "buy one get one free", you pay for one of their coaches and I'll join in and teach for free. There have also been times when they really had no coaches at all (say if a few coaches got Covid) and they ask me, "please Alex, can you teach this class as we really have no more coaches who can do it otherwise we will have to cancel that class." I never ask for payment, I do it because I don't want the gymnasts to be disappointed - I know I would be if I turned up at the gym only to find out that the class had been canceled!

      So I am in this situation much like my nephew - these coaches go there and work because it's a job, they need it to pay the bills, to put food on the table for their families. I am the investment banker who says, "oh I love gymnastics, I don't need your money I just need your love, I'll do your job for free. I'm a volunteer." I think word got round that I earn a lot of money and I teach for free, but if you spoke to me at the gym, I never talk about what I do for a living. I just say something generic like, I work in an office, I have to deal with difficult people so the gymnastics club is my happy place where I can escape to and have a lot of fun with my friends. I'm quite selective with my words, I don't ever want my fellow coaches to feel like I look down on them for not earning as much. So by that token, I'm actually like my nephew - the rich kid who is so bored and has nothing to do he decided to go work in a factory packing biscuits for Chinese new year. Gymnastics coaches don't get paid much I'm afraid, that makes them quite working class.

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    10. Lol when there's only one grandchild and 4 grandparents that kid is surely going to be spoiled. Also, this seems to be more of a male grandchild thing than a female one. I think it's because the world is not kind to bossy or naive women so parents always raise their girls to be tough, while boys are given more leeway in life. But still, raising a bossy little privileged prince is going to lead to so much trouble later in life when said prince can't charm girls/guys to date him, but feels entitled to them just like he feels entitled to all other things. Friends/Dates are the few things rich parents/grandparents cannot buy for their spoiled kid/grandkid. My spoiled rich friend also has problems with women, he was even called a creep at work recently by two coworkers and one customer. And I was like of course he has problems with women, no girl wants to date such an entitled sounding brat.

      Lol it sounds like your sisters don't know what "tough love" means. Maybe it's because she's only got one child that she feels scared to ever be estranged from him that she won't be tough. I kinda wonder what his father is like to him, is the dad the tough one?

      Aww that's really nice of you to cover for the other coaches during Covid. I would hate if my class was cancelled too, because that's my main social life outside of work. I guess it's only polite not to talk about what you do for a living unless people ask. I only found out recently some of the people who go to my gym are doctors because the coach asked them what they did over the holiday, and one mentioned she had to help out at her hospital's emergency department last minute because a tornado hit and there was a surge of trauma patients.

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    11. Well Amanda, I almost feel like you're talking about your brother there! It does make me wonder though - you clearly have much better social skills than your brother and do you know why that is the case? In any case, regardless of whom we're talking about, everyone benefits from better social skills.

      My brother in law is a good dad, he is much, much stricter than my sister as a father. But the way I see it, you get the kid you're given - like you're not going to make the child smarter at school or better at sports by being that much stricter, are you?

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    12. Oh no my brother has the best social skills at work due to our tiger parents. But in private life he is a shy nerd, and unfortunately neither of our parents taught us to be charming in dating life. They were much too obsessed with our education. In my case I have charming athlete friends, I don't just hang out with nerds so I picked up a thing or two from them. Also I think women are under more pressure to try harder in dating life than men, who are just told to make a lot of money and buy gifts for girls. I can't just feel entitled to hot charming men just because I make a lot of money haha, neither does society tell me I can. Anyway I told my brother that believing he is only valued for money is making him miserable because it means he doesn't think women value him for anything else and won't try to connect with the girl, and after some convincing he agrees.

      Another thing, my dad and my brother didn't get along as well as my dad and myself, and the main reason was my brother didn't grow up to be as gentlemanly as my dad wanted him to be. But then again it's not like my dad did a great job of raising a gentleman, my brother as the youngest and only son was the little emperor so there you go. If he cried and said he wanted/needed something, my mom would get it for him. If I did that, nobody cared and I had to get it myself or ask super nicely. It comes with being the middle child, because my sister as the oldest and first child was also allowed to whine for things. The middle child is usually the ignored one I feel haha.

      I think being strict has it's uses but only to push someone to at least try. But if they're trying their best but aren't the best compared to others then it's fine to be a little slack. Good to here he has a good dad. I hope he gives him good advice during NS.

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    13. Aaah well Amanda, to simply get along with people at work, the bar isn't set that high. As long as I can have a decent, cordial if not somewhat formal working relationship with my colleagues, I don't raise my expectations in terms of them treating me like a good friend. As long as we can get along at work, like if I ask them to send me a report by Monday and I get it before then, that's good enough by me. I don't expect anything akin to 'friendship' or more there - allow me to compare it to gymnastics coaching. I have the duty to make sure that the adults who come to my class have a good time learning gymnastics, I don't have to like them - as long as they do as they're told, they respond to instructions and they don't give me trouble, I'm happy enough. They will walk away and say "that coach is really nice and friendly" but I am not obliged to like them in return.

      But as for dating, aha - the bar is raised so much higher. You've got to get someone to like you a lot, that goes so much beyond being a nice enough colleague to maintain a cordial working relationship with. But we can learn how to do this - it's called improving our social skills and you talked about the middle child syndrome: well, I learned very quickly that there are certain things you can do to get people to like you and you've gotta figure out which buttons to push for different people. And also it's a question of strategy - if I am selling bacon to restaurants, the first thing I would check is if they have use for bacon, if bacon is already on the menu. So forget vegan/vegetarian restaurants and Muslim restaurants - your brother has got to reevaluate his strategy about whom he is targeting and check if he is trying to sell bacon to a vegan restaurant. This actually happened in one episode of the Apprentice from some years back when this clueless candidate tried to sell a fish product to a vegan restaurant and couldn't understand why they said no to his fish product. A good salesman will come up with a good strategy whilst I suspect your brother is just guided by his desires - he wants this lady, he is in love with her and he can't understand why she doesn't reciprocate his feelings because he's not taking a step back and trying to look at this from her point of view instead.

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    14. Anyway Amanda, I'm going to discuss my next post with you now as I don't have time to write it till the weekend but here's what's happened at the gymnastics club this evening. We have an entrance and an exit - there is a one-way policy for Covid to prevent one class from mixing with the next class so the students are not supposed to leave via the entrance. Pretty standard rules in the pandemic, but this parent insisted on picking up his son at the entrance today. When I tried to send him to the exit to pick up his son by explaining our Covid one-way system, he got really rude with me and told me that I had no right to lecture him about Covid, that other kids had left through the entrance and he could pick up his son from anywhere he wanted. I then tried to tell him that the Covid protocol is there to protect his son as well as everyone else at the gym - that's when he got really rude with me and shouted at his son to come to the entrance despite the fact that another coach had tried to ask the boy to leave via the exit.

      Anyway, rather than get into a big argument with that parent, I went to my head coach to complain and she said yes I know who you mean, he's well known for being rude to the staff. This is not the first time it has happened - we will issue a warning that if he tries to pick up his child again from the entrance, he will risk his son losing his place at the gymnastics club and this is his first warning as he is breaking Covid protocol. My head coach then said, you know, that's the problem with this country - rich people like Boris Johnson don't think the rules apply to them and they can do what they want. It's one set of rules for them and another set for us ordinary folks who try so hard to follow the rules. I'm sure you've heard enough about our PM breaking so many rules and laws about Covid protocol by having parties at his office during the lockdowns.

      Anyway, I pointed out to my head coach that it isn't wealth per se that makes people act like assholes to others - I work in investment banking and some of the people I deal with are insanely rich. Yet they don't feel the need to be mean to everyone else to make themselves feel like they're superior to everyone around them, no - they already know how rich they are, they are quite secure in that knowledge so they're actually pretty relaxed about it and they're not the ones going around being rude to the staff at the sports center.

      Rather it is people who are very insecure who speak to staff at the sports center in a very rude manner, I have talked about this a lot in my blog. I smirked at that parent because I work in investment banking and there's a high chance that I'm a lot richer than he is and I'm just a volunteer at the gymnastics club. However, my point is simple: you've been around really rich people Amanda, having money doesn't make you automatically treat others like crap. There simply isn't the correlation there - instead, having poor social skills makes you behave like an asshole. So if someone has such a warped view of the world that they think that by speaking down to someone like a waiter in a restaurant or a receptionist in an office they are asserting their superiority, then they're the ones exposing their insecurities by behaving like that. In any case, you can be poor, working class and still extremely rude to the people around you if you're trying to assert some kind of 'superiority' over them - that superiority is not based on your wealth or your bank balance, but you're trying to bully them. "I'm going to be very rude to you and I wanna see if you're going to be intimidated or if you're going to react. Go on then, what are you going to do?" Guess where I have seen this before? Part 2 coming up below.

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    15. That's right - I have seen this all before when I was in the army. I have seen guys who are from very poor working class families - they have never tested any privilege in their lives before. Then you put them in the military, they get promoted to the point where they outrank some younger guys and they go completely power crazy to the point where they indulge in some pretty horrific bullying, not so much because some rich kid with poor social skills says something offensive but simply because they have never ever tasted power ever before. Imagine if we went to some remote corner of the Amazon rainforest and we came across a tribe that has had no contact with humans before - to break the ice, we give the children some candy that you and I eat all the time. To us, it's just a sweet treat but for the children who have never ever had refined sugar ever before, it totally blows their minds, that sensation of tasting refined sugar for the first time. So for you and I, that candy is just ordinary, even cheap stuff that we come across in the supermarkets all the time but for those children in the tribe in the jungle, it's the most amazing thing they have ever tasted. Giving these poor working class guys some power in the army is the same thing and I've seen them go totally power crazy under such circumstances. Such is the crazy shit one encounters in NS.

      But my point is simple: you can be totally working class and very poor but still act like a bully who is unreasonable and rude; people who behave like that are trying to assert their power/authority/superiority over another person and that has far more to do with their social skills rather than their bank balance per se. Is my head coach assuming that somehow money corrupts, that a poorer person would never ever behave in this rude and unreasonable manner? I think that's an unreasonable assumption to make as it isn't money per se that makes a person end up with such poor social skills but somehow, that's just the assumption that my head coach made. Now again, like my sister, my head coach is a lovely person but I think her assumption is actually totally wrong in this case. I will talk more about this soon when I have the time.

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    16. Lol then my childhood friend who was called a creep at work must be really shite if he can't even get along with his coworkers. Yeah I suppose its not hard to get along with people at work since you don't reveal very much to them. I think my brother's issue is that he is a shy nerd type but he is scared of being judged by girls. I'm also a shy nerd type and it did take me ages to be comfortable with that when meeting guys. But as an adult I realized people are attracted to confidence more than anything. Also rejection is super common. My brother was upset just because he got rejected by 2 maybe 3 girls in his life. That's like investing in 2 stocks which tanked and complaining that investing in the stock market is the same as investing in a scam. I've got two friends who let's call "Romeo" and "Juliet" because they are hot charming athlete types who have dated quite a bit, and they tell me all about the times they have been rejected and its an even higher rate than they have been successful. The difference between Romeo, Juliet, and me and my brother is that they try more so they are successful more times. Some days I think I have more confidence in the stock market than I do in the dating market, which I gotta change. But yeah, my brother is not very good at finding out what people like because like I said he's never had to cater to anyone else' feelings in the family to get things from them. Which is a bad combination with the fact that he's not used to being unsuccessful at getting what he wants, and the dating market is full of rejection, even if you are wealthy and privileged.

      Oh you coached the junior gymnastics classes as well? That's really nice. But yeah I get that parents who send their kids to extra-curricular activities can be assholes, I've seen quite a few of them growing up. That parent should not be allowed to get his way just by shouting. In fact he should just take it or leave it that these safety protocols exist. But yeah like you said how polite someone is to other people has nothing to do with their bank balance, as much as the poor like to accuse the rich of feeling snobby and entitled, while the rich accuse the poor of being desperate and unrefined.

      I have met a few friends who have screwed me over and said and done things that really hurt me and disregarded my happiness, but in hindsight I realized just how miserable these people were. It's a case of "if I'm not happy in my life, why should I put effort to make you happy?" The people I knew were all upper middle class or upper class people, and the things that made them miserable sound so universal to anyone regardless of bank balance. Basically all of them had parents who didn't love them. One had a math prof as a dad, but wasn't good at math so was called stupid/worthless their whole life. The other two had working class parents who shouted all the time, and despite the two becoming scientists, the parents complained they weren't doctors instead. They all have trouble making friends, which adds to further alienation and misery which makes it even harder to make friends and turns into a vicious cycle. So it wasn't the money/status that turned these three people into assholes, but a lack of self-esteem.

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    17. Hiya, just to let you know - I don't coach the junior kids, but as a coach in the gym, we all do things like police the Covid protocols such as the one way system. I only deal with the adults, the youngest student I have is 17. But exactly, I think my head coach (who isn't that rich) is wrong to assume that there's a link between being rich and being rude when you know who belong to the category of "rich people who are rude to other rich people including those who are richer". It's never a straightforward "rich people being very nasty to poor people" situation as my head coach saw it. It's a lot more complex, involving social skills (you know me, it's always about social skills). I'll write more in response later but I've got work stuff to attend to now unfortunately, sigh. Busy day.

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    18. But if you think about it, the story of "worker trying to get the public to follow Covid rules encounters rude idiot who refuses to follow the rules" - sigh, this has been happening so much, all over the world, for the last 2 years so what happened last night was hardly unique. It has happened so much before already, however, it is more my head coach's assumption of "having money = turns you into an asshole, rich man thinks he has the right to treat everyone like dirt and not follow the rules" - I still think her logic is faulty, that's simply incorrect and it leaves me wondering, what kind of assumptions are you making of rich people if that's what you genuinely believe then?

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    19. Yeah we also have the one way system at my gym. I mean, for parents its scary to have a kid catch covid. One of my friends is a librarian who the day after she returned to work at a local high school last year, her 1 year old son caught covid and was very sick from it. She was so stressed when she told us the story during a boardgaming session over zoom.

      Lol that's a really funny way to put it. And how about the people in NS who are are poor people being rude to other poor people including those who are even poorer? The assumption that someone has to be rich to be mean is just ingrained in so many movies about high school, why is the villain always the richest student? I remember this American youtuber I watch who said she grew up working class in a rich neighborhood and complained about friends who throw dinner parties but venmo charge the attendees for the food the next day as "rich people who grew up entitled and cheap." Then she said "oh some rich people can grow out of their entitledness and stop being cheap, but it will take a lot of effort." Lol I have never met a single friend, rich or poor, who has charged me anything for a party after the fact. Maybe because I grew up in Asia, but I heard in Australia when people hold barbecue parties they ask guests to bring their own meat. To me that sounds more like ignorance on the rich friend's part than intentionally trying to make a poor person's life harder by being cheap.

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    20. One-way systems have become the norm in the pandemic so it was ridiculous for this parent to refuse to follow the rules but I think it goes so much further than just "rich entitled person refuses to follow the rules because he has money and thinks the rules don't apply to him". Let's think about why someone would deliberately defy Covid rules - ironically, someone we have talked about a lot of late Charles (ie. ex-super model guy) refuses to follow the rules too. You know he is completely anti-vaxx, refuses to wear a mask and believes in all of these conspiracy theories about Covid? Well my theory is that when you're thaaaaat poor, you have zero control in your life. Charles has to wear a uniform to work whereas I wake up in the morning and think, aaaah what do I wear today for my followers on Instagram to tease and dazzle them? So someone like Charles may be forced to wear a mask at work but once he's out of work, oh he is rebelling against the rules and thus that little act of rebellion such as refusing to follow a one-way system in a sports center is a good example of someone like him trying to feel like he has some control over his life when 99% of the time he feels like he has absolutely no say whatsoever in all the matters in his life. So whether the person is rich or poor, you can always find a reason as to why they refuse to follow the rules and that's why I disagreed with my head coach's reasoning/assumption that this parent refused to follow the rules because he is rich. I bet you Charles would break that rule too and Charles is painfully poor.

      In NS, it's not about your bank balance - it's about power. When you are a soldier in the army, you don't get to spend your wealth even if you have money. You wear a uniform not your own clothes, you don't get to upgrade your bunk bed to a 5 star hotel, you eat what you are served and even the socks you wear are supplied by the military. It is an environment where your money can't help you at all, so let's leave 'wealth comparison' out of the equation here. What I am talking about is a situation where a poor person who has never had had any power before suddenly getting his first taste of power and he goes out to bully people because he can - his victims may be a) richer than him, b) poorer than him or c) equally rich/poor as him but that's completely inconsequential in the army because he has turned into a bully because he can get away with it. My point is that this totally invalidates the simplistic assumption my head coach made about "money turns people into assholes" - that's not true and the matter is far more complex.

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    21. Oh yeah I forgot about Charles. Jeezus not only is he anti-vax he's anti mask or restrictions. But it's not just poor people like Charles who are anti-vax, it's also very wealthy individuals like Trump too. When people act out it could be for whatever reason, but it's hardly ever tied to money. Sadly it's people like Charles who are currently filling up the hospitals. I read an article on the guardian recently about a doctor who was livid when she was asked to remove her dying cancer patient from the ICU to make room for an unvaccinated covid patient.

      Ugh it's crazy how people use power to make up for lack of self esteem. Also I think money can be thought of as another form of power, usually the most common. People hide behind money to get away with being assholes, but it's not the cause of why they're assholes in the first place.

      Busy day at work huh? Did you have to write reports or see clients? I'm taking it easy today because I have gymnastics tonight and just aren't in the mood for thinking too hard before it starts.

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    22. My point is simple: people tend to look for evidence to confirms what they already feel, it's a clear case of confirmation bias when my head coach attributed that parent's unreasonable and rude behaviour to the fact that she thinks he's rich - cos y'know, all rich people are assholes and treat poorer people like crap, money corrupts and is the root of all evil etc. I had no idea she felt like that but we weren't that close, it's instances like that when you learn what people really think and feel. I wanted to point out that we should be careful not to see things that are not there, or manipulate the evidence to confirm our views of the world. So in this case, we have a (supposedly) rich man (I bet you I earn a lot more than him, but I digress) who refuses to follow Covid-rules, but would a very poor man like Charles do exactly the same thing? The answer is yes, totally. So there is no correlation between wealth and the unwillingness to abide by Covid-rules.

      At least in the gym this evening, I saw the head coach line all the kids up and marched them out of the exit in a very, very orderly manner. No child would dare to leave by the entrance, she took my complaint very, very seriously. She is the one who makes us take lateral flow tests before coming to the gym so I saw the parent I had that encounter with last night wait at the exit and I smirked at him. He pretended not to see me.

      As for people who abuse power and resort to bullying when interacting with others, what is behind this? Let me share with you what I once saw at an airport: a flight was delayed due to bad weather (I was not on that delayed flight, I just happened to be at a date right next to where everyone was waiting). One man marched up to the desk and shouted at the lady at the counter, demanding an upgrade to business class because the wait was "unreasonable" - the lady said bad weather was not the fault of the airline, your safety comes first blah blah blah no you're not getting an upgrade and if you won't leave I'm calling security. Another passenger tried to get the same thing but took a different approach - she first went to the lady at the desk just to say, "are you okay sister? I saw that man speak to you in that horrible manner and you need to ignore people like that, I'm with you sister, you don't deserve to be treated like that." She started a conversation with the lady and won her trust by just being nice to her, caring about her mental health. Then she asked for an upgrade and the lady was like, "let me see what I can do". So the rude demanding man got to vent his anger at the lady at the counter but it was the nice lady who obviously knew how to get what she wanted.

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    23. So here's my theory: we saw the same incident. The flight was subjected to a very long delay due to bad weather and those two passengers reacted very, very differently. My theory is that the rude man has been treated like that all his life, he must have had everyone from older siblings, his parents, his teachers scream and yell at him, threatening him with beatings and punishments if he didn't do what they asked of him and because he was coerced into obeying like that, that's the only way he knows how to communicate with people - by screaming abuse at them. That's a sign of how damaged he is. Whereas the nice lady would have been brought up in a loving environment where she witnessed good role models take this kind of approach whereby you win the trust and friendship of the person you're dealing with by being super nice to them before you ask them for a favour - at that stage, what's a small favour between good friends? So they get what they want whereas the rude guy who shouts at people rarely ever gets what he wants. But I see people's behaviour in situations like that and I can see so much into the way they were brought up, the kind of relationships they had and how they have learnt how to interact with others - it's all reflected in their social skills.

      I am a sales & marketing guy so all day long I've been dealing with clients who need my help - I support them, make sure I come up with marketing plans that work well for them and that's why I'm paid for my brilliant ideas rather than for the sheer number of hours I work. I could have joined my boss for a 6 pm meeting but I sneaked off at 5:45 pm as I had gymnastics at 8 pm and I would much rather have a little time to just chill, have a snack before going to the gym.

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    24. So let me give you an example of the ideas I come up with: we have a client who has already done one successful workshop with her investors last year (and I helped planned that event), she wants to do the same thing again but I told her, you have to offer your investors something different otherwise if they think you're going to do the same old speeches then they won't come. So I offered her a range of experts I could bring in from the more serious ones on tax issues (I know a tax consultant who is brilliant) to more frivolous ones like wine tasting - but the idea is to differentiate the second event sufficiently so that those who have attended the first one will still wanna come to the second one because there's something brand new, unique and interesting. I'm pushing for the tax consultant as I think people will come if they are tempted by the possibility of paying less tax through getting great tax planning advice.

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    25. Sigh, I suppose you don't really know people until you find out their opinions on things, even if some of those are bad. People tend to tar groups of people with the same brush, the brain isn't very smart or at least is ignorant and hasn't met enough people. I suppose this gymnastics coach doesn't meet many rich people and the few she has met have been extremely rude. Meanwhile someone like yourself has met so many rich people and working class people you have concluded no correlation or causation between manners and money. Lol Alex you're a savage with that smirk... got the message across but in a classy manner. I would've done the same.

      Yeah when I meet people who are "violent" and throw tantrums and make threats to get their way, usually their parents do the same thing so they don't think it's bad or unusual. It's surprising how kids will do almost anything they see their parents do. It's just how people evolved, because kids are defenseless they will follow their parents as a survival mechanism. However sometimes kids are smart enough to realize that following their parents' example will make them miserable in life, like yourself. I am seriously so surprised that you and your sisters can be so empathetic and mild mannered even though your parents only care about their own opinion and are supremely stubborn.

      Ahh okay so you were helping clients all day and giving them good ideas. Damn a 6pm meeting is just not worth it if you can afford to sneak out. Might as well get an early dinner before gymnastics later, which is what I did today before my 7:30pm class. Yeah I wouldn't come to the same conference either the next year if it just had the same stuff, unless your client has a new set of investors turning up. Wow they have wine tasting at such a serious event, so "atas" haha. Btw we did vault today and I tried to get a hand-stand on the vault pad, but ended up doing a flip by accident and landing on my back on the jump pad. Whoops! That really hurt, my coach said maybe my arms were tired. We also had a new student turn up today who was asking if it was okay for her to try gymnastics aged 40 because she was very sore in the first week. The coach was like "I don't know, ask the doctor over here"(two of our students are doctors).

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    26. I think this is a case of someone who is kind (I assure you my head coach is possibly the nicest gymnastics coach you could possibly have), but sometimes, even people like that are guilty of confirmation bias - they interpret an incident in a certain way to suit the narrative that they have already constructed in their heads rather than challenge themselves to see if the complete opposite could be true. It takes a certain amount of humility (if that's the right word to use) to challenge yourself and say, I might be wrong, let's test my hypothesis to see if the complete opposite might be true or not. I straddle both sides of that class divide so I clearly have more perspective than someone who only sees things mostly from one side of that divide. It's the benefit of experience.

      As for how I learnt to be smarter when it comes to getting what I want: simple. It's intelligence: I am observant and I learn from what I see, such as simply witnessing what happened at that airport. I could see what worked, what failed - I make a mental note to avoid the mistake of the rude man and aimed to follow the good example of the nice lady who succeeded. It is something admittedly autistic people struggle with as they fail to see things from the perspective of others but for me, the desire to succeed, to get what I want, to get people to like me is so great that I have managed to tap into my social skills and decided to learn from others around me rather than simply default to how I was brought up.

      My right heel is still sore after a recent injury from last week but I am just grateful it is much better now. I think it could have been so much worse but I'm still tumbling now.

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    27. Yeah, nobody's perfect I suppose. If it was easy to convince people not to stereotype so many problems in society would disappear. But one thing we have to remember is that people who work in service jobs see a lot of angry customers, whether they are wealthy or working class patrons. A worker at a golf club is probably going to encounter more asshole rich people than a worker at Tesco, who is more likely to run into someone like Charles who refuses to mask up when shopping.

      Yeah I suppose nobody intends to say the wrong things and be miserable, most of the time they can't help it and believe somehow that what they're doing is the right thing to do and don't question it. That person at the airport probably just wants to get an upgrade but really doesn't know how to ask nicely to get it.

      Lol who isn't sore from gymnastics? Today I woke up with my left tricep sore. I saw that video on the tumbling track. Is that where one practices before moving to doing these back to back flips and handsprings on the floor?

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    28. Exactly, it's our tendency to give in to our prejudices and use every opportunity to say, "see? I was right all along, this group of people are horrible." And whilst I hate to fault my head coach as she is a nice person (the same way I hate to fault my sister as she is a kind person), sometimes even kind and nice people can make errors of judgment like that as well.

      Also, there's the one sweet melon fallacy - allow me to explain. A man receives a gift from a colleague who has recently gone on a trip to Brazil and he brings back a melon from Brazil. The melon is extremely sweet and tasty. So the man who received the gift claims, "wow, Brazilian melons are extremely sweet!" Let's double check what is happening here: the melon he ate was undoubtedly sweet but are ALL melons from Brazil that sweet? Clearly not. This man is merely using his only reference to melons from Brazil and his reference is a sample size of one. So who knows, maybe my head coach once encountered a rich person who was very nasty and rude to her so she's going down the same route by referencing that one experience that she associates with the issue?

      Oh I had a really scary fall last weekend which involved hitting my heel on the end of the beam when I tried to do a dismount, was too close and clipped my foot on the way down. I thought I had fractured my sole but I didn't. I'm just lucky it isn't broken. Yes the tumble track tends to be bouncy and gives us a mechanical advantage when training harder skills.

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    29. Yeah your sister has the opposite problem of assuming everyone is kind and supportive which is also just as bad as assuming a particular group of people are rude and malicious. This is why in science we like to say "a hypothesis cannot be proven, only disproven", as to discourage people being overzealous over discovering a new law of physics. There is no way to prove all rich people are bad, but there is a way to disprove that statement by encountering even a single nice rich person. This is why we teach the scientific method as to be unbiased, but still people still suffer the dunning-kruger effect of believing they know everything and have all the data.

      Btw, school just started recently and I attended a computer science class which had 7 students, of which 5 were Chinese Asian (3 guys, 2 girls including myself)and 2 were white guys. Wow I felt very represented, but at the same time I'm kinda surprised I don't see much non-white/Asian people in university at the graduate level, especially in the sciences/engineering. I'm just glad I have not heard anybody make any racist comments about that, but people don't always say what they feel. In Sg I heard some particularly racist comments about why we hardly have any Malay professors or students, people were less touchy talking about that than in America. I do know that universities do favor people with money, and if you have student loans to pay its difficult to pursue a graduate degree.

      Wow that must've hurt a lot, I imagine you hit your heel with more than your entire body-weight. My neck is sore today from hitting the jump pad in vault, I hope it's less sore by the time next week's session rolls around. Yeah I'm surprised the tumble track exists because its not an Olympic event, but I do see people do floor skills on it to practice.

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    30. Sorry I had a super busy period with work. Hence the slow reply, but yes, the word I was looking for was anecdotal evidence, ie. "I met one man from Canada who was super tall, so all Canadians are tall." Or "I tasted a melon from Brazil that was so sweet, so all Brazilian melons are very sweet." Nope, you can see why the logic is very flawed there but I think we're all capable of giving in to confirmation bias because we want to know we're right, thus the temptation to see what we want to see when presented with a situation that can be open to interpretation.

      As for the tumble track, there are loads of tumbling competitions on Youtube using such tumbling equipment and even though it's not an Olympic sport yet, it's very popular in some countries. Here's just one video to give you an idea of it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMbN6IcrxLs

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    31. Yeah I was also busy today too. My Friday staff meeting is moved to the weekend because my boss forgot he had to give an exam today. Ugh... Anyway, yeah anecdotes are terrible for objectiveness, its why medicine invented clinical trials in order to snuff out snake oil. In the political arena people call it "dog whistling" when politicians make false statements that they know will appeal to a particular group because that's what they want to believe. Even artificial intelligence algorithms are subject to confirmation bias, and today I was learning about how to eliminate that mathematically. If its hard just for a computer to be unbiased, its much harder for humanity haha.

      Wow that competition is like a combination of the floor and vault event where everywhere is a springboard. Maybe the women's olympic gymnastics could use more events, they have 2 less than the male gymnastics. In my gymnastics sessions sometimes we're told to do forward handsprings on the tumble track, but I can't even do that on the floor yet so I'm scared to try. I prefer to do my forward handsprings into the foam pit.

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    32. Trust me, everything is so much easier on the tumble track as it's more bouncy!

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  2. It is definitely wrong to teach the child working in the packaging factory to let loose of his tongue talking unnecessary in an unknown environment with unknown strangers. It is just as my autism father taught me to ask anything and everything from my teachers in school even though he is clueless about the school environment, my class teachers and fellow classmates. 不齿下问 认真寻问
    Basically I just would offend my teachers and attracted class bullies targeting me. 人聪明就好 不要假聪明

    You did once mention your sister is in a rather high position in her working organisation. Really wonder how much did she spent listening to those part timer ideas or low position newbies.

    It is obvious your sister wants her child to analysis and identified for improvement, keep his eyes looking around and mind working. But are you certain that she told him to share with his colleagues or report it to the managers? Could it just be an interacting session between mum and son education?

    For my ten years of employment working, I only met one manager who have the social skills, wisdom and big heart to listen to younger and subordinate colleagues. Answering to feedback and accept changes for improvement to make things better, accept colleagues doing things in their own ways. Such a proper good man and manager are rarely found in working life.

    The way to mix in with lowly skilled labourer and less educated peoples are having great big smiles, greetings, keep your mouth shut and listen more, agreed with every shit they said and nod your head even though they are all bullshit or idiots.

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    1. Hi there, thanks for your feedback. If I may clarify please, I have two sisters. So this one giving the bad advice is the auntie to my nephew, this isn't my nephew's mother I'm talking about in this piece here. But this sister is genuinely a very nice person lah, that much is true. But I was just shocked to learn that she thinks that other people (like my nephew's manager at work) is going to be just as nice, that's a ridiculous assumption to make. Aiyoh and my nephew is going to start NS this year, very soon. He has to learn the right approach to mix with people like that (as you've clearly described in your post above). Thank you.

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    2. Yes, thank you, I got it now.
      She is just been helpful to provide advice to her nephew but gave a wrong one instead. 好心办坏事

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    3. I'm afraid it is more a case of 乱讲话 - if she has no knowledge or experience on the matter, then she shouldn't be giving any kind of advice based on crazy assumptions.

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  3. You were completely right. Your sister was completely wrong. Lol. Just do his job and go home.

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    1. Well thank you Di, thanks for the validation!

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    2. Note that the original title of the piece was why I got ANGRY with my sister, but really I'm frustrated not angry - that's not the same emotion. My sister had made an incorrect assumption based on ignorance and poor social skills, but there was no malice involved. Like she wasn't deliberately trying to get my nephew into trouble, she just gave bad advice despite having good intentions of course. So I think in such situations we shouldn't get angry with people who mess up like that because of the total absence of malice - doesn't mean we can't get frustrated with them though but that is a different emotion. Anger and frustration are not the same thing.

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    3. I think your sister was just being a keener for her son. She forgets that it's minimum wage. Also, the lifers do not want to be told how to do their jobs.

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    4. One important detail Di - this is the AUNTIE who made that statement, not the mother. I have two sisters and I spoke to the sister who isn't the mother but everything else you said is correct.

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