Perhaps Rosa Parks isn't the best comparison - after all, the defied the law by refusing to give up her seat on the bus to a white passenger, got herself arrested then appealed the conviction. Whereas Gary & Kenneth were never arrested in the first place (although technically speaking, if the government did enforce section 377A, then they could potentially be arrested). So what they are challenging is the law itself and by that token, they are challenging the wisdom of the government to actually retain a law they said they will not enforce. I know what you're thinking - retain a law you don't intend to enforce? What the hell are you doing that for? How illogical is that? What is the point of such a law then? Either keep it because you are actively using it or get rid of it if you don't intend to enforce it - but this wishy-washy status quo does not make any sense and it is not acceptable to neither the pro-gay (who want it scrapped) nor the anti-gay factions (who want to see it actively enforced).
Don't you get it? The PAP are a bunch of lying, dishonest crooks. You can't even begin to reason with lying, dishonest crooks. There is no basis to even try to reason with these dishonest people, even if you get the best lawyers in the country to help Gary & Kenneth prepare this appeal. It is hardly going to make any difference because you're dealing with a system that is not prepared to engage with the citizens - the government is just going to do what the hell they want. Do you need proof? Here's the evidence - there was widespread disapproval even amongst diehard PAP supporters when it came to the population white paper for 6.9 million. Yet they still bludgeoned the white paper through parliament anyway, making a complete mockery of the democratic process. Gary & Kenneth are making an error of judgement in that they are underestimating what they are up against and whom they are dealing with - because there is a very high chance that their appeal with be quashed and dismissed just like that. Not because what they're asking for is unreasonable, but because you're dealing with an inherently unfair, unjust and undemocratic system.
I see a tactical miscalculation here - if you want section 377A to be repealed, then first you have to get rid of the PAP. Vote them out at the next election - get the gay community to pressure the opposition into pledging the abolition of section 377A as part of their manifesto. Let's face it - you need a coalition of the young, liberal and forward thinking in Singapore and those who support the opposition are more than likely to be gay friendly, whilst those who vote PAP are more than likely to be homophobic. With the battleground set to be quite uncertain for the next election, every vote is going to be precious and fought for. Now we're not just talking about the gay vote here - we're talking about the votes from Singaporeans who believe that Singapore will be a better, more progressive, more compassionate society without section 377A. We're talking about Singaporeans who dare to dream of a better future, to embrace a path without the PAP's rhetoric and gay rights is but a part of a bigger package of progressive social values that includes the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of expression, respecting women's rights, respecting ethnic minorities and creating a more compassionate, open minded society.
Get rid of the PAP and section 377A will be gone sooner than you think. Challenging the PAP on section 377A will only lead to more frustration - it'll be like trying to demolish a house by banging your head on the wall. Sorry for being so cynical, but it simply isn't going to work. Let's look at it from the PAP's perspective - even if you do get people in the government who are gay friendly and would like to get rid of section 377A, their hands are tied because of the way this challenge has been raised. Two Singaporean citizens are unhappy with the law and they have tried to change it - the courts ruled against these two and they appeal. Now the PAP are going to think, "if we give in now, this will make Singaporeans more bold and they will think that if they buay song gahmen, then they can suka-suka challenge this, challenge that and change the law. No, cannot lah! We must show them who is boss, that they cannot ini maciam suka-suka challenge the law like that one. You think your grandfather's gahmen, izzit?" Even if the PAP is willing to repeal section 377A, they will want to make it look as if it was a decision the PAP has taken after careful consideration - rather than because their hand was forced by a gay couple who had the balls to challenge the government. Allowing the latter to happen would tantamount to 'losing face' and the PAP will never let that happen. Sorry guys!
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In the case of Rosa Parks, when she was arrested, black residents of Montgomery boycotted the local buses and continued the boycott for 381 days, at considerable personal sacrifice. Dozens of public buses stood idle for months, severely damaging the bus transit company's finances, until the city repealed its law requiring segregation on public buses. It was inspirational how united the black community was in the case of Rosa Parks - is the gay community in Singapore going to rally behind Gary & Kenneth? What can they do to make the government feel the pressure? Okay, some have donated to Gary & Kenneth's cause - but how organised is the gay community in Singapore? Can they present a united front of gays and their supporters against the PAP?
The PAP would be terrified that if they allowed Gary & Kenneth a victory on this issue, it would open a Pandora's Box for unhappy Singaporeans to start challenging them on a whole range of other issues - from the influx of foreigners to national service to CPF to ministers' pay to censorship to the public transport woes. Rather, the PAP would rather Singaporeans remain docile and quiet even if the wheels come off the bus and not question the judgement of the PAP the way Gary & Kenneth have on this issue.
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Put it in that context, Gary & Kenneth have virtually no chance of victory I'm afraid. It is not just an issue of PAP moving on this one issue - it is about the kind of relationship this government wants to have with Singaporean citizens. Right now, there's no room for negotiation in this relationship - just look at the way the population white paper was handled. What makes you think the PAP will reaction any differently on the section 377A issue? What makes you think you can even begin to negotiate with the PAP on such issues?
You know, I would love to be proven wrong. Nothing would please me more if my cynicism was proven wrong. Bur there is a difference between what I hope would happen and what I think will probably happen. Nonetheless, Rome wasn't built in a day and nobody expects that it will take just one case like Gary & Kenneth's to get rid of section 377A - this is a marathon, not a 100 metres sprint. Gary & Kenneth's case is going to be one of the many important steps that will take us one step closer to finally getting rid of section 377A. There will need to be many more brave people to who have the guts to take on this government in order for there to be real change in our society. We may not be there just yet, but this case is a step in the right direction. Think of how many decades it took from Rosa Park's getting arrested to Obama becoming the president, the gay community in Singapore also have a very long journey of their own to make.
I suppose the easiest option would be to simply leave Singapore if you are really that unhappy there. Why stay there and 受苦? If section 377A is the root of your problem, then isn't it far easier to move to somewhere like New Zealand, the UK, Holland or Belgium where gays enjoy freedom, protection and equality under the law? That's what many talented, well educated gays have done - along with plenty of Singaporeans who simply can't wait for the day Singaporeans finally get rid of the PAP. By that token, I do admire Gary & Kenneth as they have guts to stay and fight the system, rather than to simply give up and leave Singapore. But then again, are they doing it the right way? Are they picking a fight they simply can't win, are they tackling a system that cannot be changed with the PAP in charge? I am not convinced, but hey, please, kindly prove me wrong and I do wish you guys all the very best of luck with your appeal.
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Hi LIFT, Your contention is that Gary & Kenneth are fighting a losing battle, and if they really want a more tolerant environment, they should migrate. However, in their video they have stated that they intend to stay here & continue fighting. Gary even admitted that if he hadnt met Kenneth he would have migrated, but now that they have a settled life with good careers, why should they uproot themselves?
ReplyDeleteGiven this constraint, what else can they do - would you recommend that they remain in the silent majority, occasionally supporting events like Pink Dot. In other words, although theyre banging their heads against the wall, theyre compelled to continue -its better than doing nothing.
Its like a calling: they are perfectly positioned to represent a monogamous, committed loving couple and nobody can judge them because their relationship has stood the test of time. I too admire them and have contributed to their cause, though many think its money down the drain!
Well, yes - I didn't have the patience to stay and fight the system, I decided to spend my adult life since 1997 outside Singapore (apart from that period in 2011 when I worked in Singapore) - my point is that whilst their spirit is commendable, I don't think that the Singaporean system is one you can negotiate with or challenge; even if it is modelled on the British system. But if everyone had this attitude of "what's the point of fighting the system, just give up and move away" - then we wouldn't have people like Rosa Parks, we wouldn't ever have brave people who have the guts to take on the system and make the others like you and I aware of the problem with the system. We're not just talking about the injustice of s377A, but also the fact that the PAP is running a system that is unlike other normal, functioning democracies where people can actually engage with the system and the politicians who do listen to the people they are meant to represent.
DeleteAh well.
Dear Limpeh,
ReplyDeleteWhile I think it is admirable for Gary and Kenneth to fight for something they believe in, I share your cynicism and believe the court won't give a shit because they are too busy stuffing their faces with money and looking at KPI and performance figures - where got time for this kind of Westernized thing??!!
The only other alternative to your suggested solution of voting the PAP out, is if one of the ministers' sons turns out to be gay - that might be an interesting scenario to watch!
Hiya Yoda. If one of the ministers' sons (or daughters) turn out to be gay, then I can see 2 possibilities.
Delete1. They will force the child to stay in the closet, arrange a sham marriage and maintain the front of heterosexuality for the public - the child will be made to keep a very low profile.
2. The child would be kept abroad and whilst not forced into a sham marriage, would be made to keep a very low profile nonetheless.
In any case, it is setting it up for a juicy scandal when that child is outed.
You will be surprise how conservative some Singaporeans are when it comes to LBGT. I have friends who openly condemns gays(Christians) claiming that they have a choice to change and become 'straight'. Even some of my vehemently anti-pap friends oppose the repeal of section 377A, claiming that it is such a divisive and polarising piece of legislation that it is preferable for the status quo to remain. Guess what, he is a Christian too.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, voting out PAP government does not mean there there will be a repeal of section 377A. The opposition parties have not stated clearly on what they are going to do with section 377A. This is undoubtedly a grey area that we must thread carefully but I see it as inevitable that the law will be repealed very soon.
P.S. You have not replied how do you deal with bigoted Christian who goes around preaching and also I do support the repeal of section 377A.(Can't let religion dictates the life of others)
http://limpehft.blogspot.sg/2013/04/q-democracy-in-action-singapore-vs-uk.html
Hi David, thanks for your comment. Oh I am under no illusions that there are homophobic people in Singapore out there - I did acknowledge in my article that Gary & Kenneth did receive many unkind, downright homophobic comments in social media. And I think that the opposition would be foolish not to get behind the repeal of s377A, after all, if all they are offering is the same as what the PAP is offering, then they are missing the point of being in the opposition and people who want change would have little incentive in voting for them (instead of trying to get the change they want by engaging with the PAP).
DeleteAs for your last question, I think I have dealt with it when I talked about the examples of NZ and the UK where there were recent votes in parliament over the issue of gay marriage. Christians are entitled to the freedom of speech and freedom of religion and if they want to tell their congregations that being gay is wrong etc - then that's their right to do so, but in a functioning democracy such as the UK and NZ, their rights do not trump the majority when the majority of society want reforms to address the issue of gay rights. There is an element of agreeing to disagree here - but that involves the Christians acknowledging that they do not have any special rights, no more so than other citizens like me who are atheist and do not share in their beliefs.
I hope that answers your questions.
David, two more articles for you to look at - here's a piece of news from France today about the protest in Paris - http://www.france24.com/en/20130421-france-paris-anti-gay-marriage-adoption-protest now that is the kind of messy democratic expression that the PAP is very afraid of and many Singaporeans feel the same way - but I believe it is necessary to allow the messy nature of democracy to take place in order to have the best result. Both sides must have their say, both sides must be satisfied that they're heard, both sides must be allowed to voice their opinions through the various forums, then the final result cannot be contested by anyone.
DeleteFor more on the MESSY nature of democracy, http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/q-democracy-in-action-singapore-vs-uk.html that article was written just for you David ! :)