Hi guys, as I had been so concerned about my recent jury duty, a deadline/milestone came and passed without me really making a fuss about it - the 23rd of January 2023 was the last time I spoke to my parents and my big sister, so it has been a year since I've spoken to them. I have to clarify, it's not like we had a big argument that day and fell out but the whole reason why I stopped talking to them was that this time last year, I was going through a really difficult period. I got through that difficult period eventually, but back then, I was so stressed out by a number of things going wrong all at the same time. I was leaving my job at a company where I had worked really hard to try to establish myself, I had some serious health issues and there were other personal matters as well really driving me into depression at that point. I found that I just couldn't talk to my parents at that point because I didn't want them to be worried about me and I knew there was just no way they would even begin to understand any of my problems relating to my work or health. Let's take my health for example: I had a medical condition known as hyperglycaemia. I had seen the doctors, I got the professional help I needed and I knew what had to be done; there was absolutely nothing my parents could do to help and they perhaps could have offered some emotional support but you really need to understand the problem before you could offer any kind of meaningful emotional support. Likewise, my parents have absolutely no idea what I do for a living so to begin to try to tell them why I was leaving a job with a company that I was so excited to join - like where do I even begin? There are times when adults simply choose not to tell children the details of a situation they think the children just cannot possibly understand? Yup, I felt that way with my medical condition and my work situation when it came to my parents. Am I calling them stupid? Perhaps, well yes - let's face it, they are uneducated and working class so there are just some things that I feel they cannot possibly understand and thus I would rather talk to my other friends who would be able to engage me on those issues as they are far more capable of understanding what I am going through. Sometimes, I'm able to just fake a smile and say, yeah everything is fine, how about you? But this time last year, I just couldn't be asked to pretend so I stopped talking to my family for a week; that turned into a month and eventually it turned into a year. My health and work situations have improved a lot since, but my relationship with my family hasn't. I suppose it took a stressful situation to make me realize how pointless and vapid our conversations were if I couldn't even be honest with them when I was going through a very difficult period. Some of you may think I'm a monster for doing this and that's fine.
There's a pattern of my parents' behaviour which I really hate and I am holding them to account for it - this was a few years ago when my eldest sister experienced a health related issue due to being too stressed at work. Instead of comforting her or trying to be helpful, they lashed out at her and scolded her for being so stupid, for allowing the stress at work to get to her. My father went out of his way to belittle my sister, he said that she was so unimportant, so insignificant at her organization. He literally said in Chinese, if you don't turn up for work next week, you think they will die without you? You think they can't go on without you? They probably won't even notice you're gone, they will replace you in the morning and forget you by lunchtime. Whilst there is an element of truth to what my father said and I can see where he's coming from when he said that, he was needlessly cruel to my sister and he was only going to make her more stressed as a result of talking to her like that. Oh my mother was just as bad during that conversation - I happened to be in the room at that time so I was able to step in and defend my sister, but given that I left Singapore back in 1997, just imagine how many times they have treated my sister like that over the years. This does remind me of a debate I had back in school in Singapore about whether it is ever justified for a parent to beat their children as a form of punishment. The teacher raised an example of when her daughter was only about three years old and started getting curious with electricity - the young girl started fiddling with plugs and sockets, not realizing the potential danger of messing with electric appliances. Given that the teacher could never explain the concept of electricity to a three year old child, the teacher decided to spank her daughter so as to make it clear: if you play with that, mummy will spank you. You may not understand the concept of electricity, but you will understand pain and you will change your behaviour because you don't want to get spanked. The teacher argued that in specific circumstances like that, spanking was a necessary evil to get the message across to a young child. Now I will let you decide whether or not the teacher was justified in her stance, but in order for parents to reason with their children to change their behaviour, they need a certain level of social skills to be able to communicate those concepts effectively. It's a lot easier to scold or even beat a child than to present a persuasive and cogent argument to convince them to change their behaviour. Hence I feel my parents are still treating my sister like a 3 year old child because of their total lack of parenting and social skills, I refuse to accept that this is somehow normal.
This is why I really don't like talking to my parents when I have problems as I know they will react that way and that's the last thing I need when I am stressed out by a problem. Given their track record, the sensible thing to do would be to say nothing and speak to a more understanding friend who will respond with a lot more kindness and empathy. For most parents, their relationship with their children will slowly evolve from that of a parent-child relationship to a relationship between two adults once their children become adults. But for my parents, given that they are completely autistic and don't really have friendships with other adults, they don't understand this process and thus continue to speak to my eldest sister (who is in her 50s) as if she was a 5 year old child, ignoring the fact that what they are doing is completely inappropriate and my sister is a lot more intelligent than the average 5 year old child. Yet my sister is so Asian that she doesn't ever challenge the way my parents behave and thus she is an enabler who allows my parents to get away with treating her so badly. I know what some of you might say at this point: your parents are very old, it is your responsibility to look after them at this stage of their lives and they are not there to take care of you when you're already so old. However, there is a difficult dynamic in this relationship which I must explain - in order for one party to take care of another, you must consent to that. So let me give you a simple example of how this works: in a hospital, when the nurse says to the patients, it is time to take your medicine, I'll bring you the pills and a cup of water. The patients should then simply take the pills from the nurse and take the medicine without any fuss; but if the patients start challenging the nurse whether it is time for the next dose or if the nurse had brought them the right medicines, then that relationship would break down quickly and it would indicate that the patients simply don't trust the nurses. There have been so many incidents where my sisters have tried their best to help my parents but my parents have simply refused to listen to my sisters despite the fact that my sisters have have tried their best to take care of their parents; they are left feeling very exasperated and helpless.
Let me give you an example to make this clear how frustrating this is and how the problem lies with a combination of my parents' stupidity and stubbornness. A few years ago, my mother wanted to buy something very expensive and my sister said, it's okay let me pay for it, it'll be my treat. I'll just transfer the money into your bank account and you can pay for it with your card. Because my mother is very old and doesn't know how online banking works, she said no it is not safe it will get lost in the internet, I'd rather you gave me the money in cash and then I can go pay for it in cash. But my sister tried to reason with her, in this day and age, hardly anyone uses cash and doing a transfer direct into your bank account is such a simple procedure. Besides, an old lady walking around with thousands of dollars in her purse is far more dangerous - you could encounter a thief that may snatch the purse out of your hands or you may forget your purse (my mother has a track record of being forgetful and misplacing various items). However, instead of simply saying, "I will listen to my daughter as she is more intelligent than me, she is trying to take good care of me and I trust her to make the best decisions for me." No, my mother just insisted that she is perfectly fine handling a huge amount of cash and that internet banking is extremely unsafe - as a result, my sister gave in to my mother and accompanied her to do the shopping in with that large amount of cash in my mother's purse. This is why my parents are impossible to take care of - they refuse to allow their children to help them make wiser decisions despite the fact that it is so evident to us that my parents have become old and senile, they are completely out of touch with the modern world and really need help with a lot of their everyday tasks. They are completely incapable of taking care of themselves but still insist on making bad decisions rather than allow their children to guide them to make wiser, safer decisions. I have seen how my sister have argued with them and I thought, no I am not looking for a fight here, I have no desire for more conflict in my life. Sometimes I wonder if my parents are simply trying to be as difficult as possible to try to get more attention from my sisters or if they are genuinely that stupid when it comes to refusing to follow good advice. I think there is a combination of both to explain their obnoxious behaviour, either way, if they have demonstrated that they respond to my sisters' kindness by behaving in this very obnoxious manner then I want no part of that kind of relationship so this is my protest.
I did this experiment with a different relationship in my family. My husband has an older sister and I don't get along with her husband - I have a perfectly good relationship with my sister-in-law but it is a different story with her husband whom I shall call Bill (not his real name). I first met Bill back in the late 1990s and we have absolutely nothing in common, he is a very working class Scottish man who worked as a teacher. I found it hard to get along with him as I just don't like him - he has this awful habit of making fun of people as if being rude to someone was a substitute for being funny. Perhaps it was the norm to make fun of your family members in a working class Scottish family, but I found a lot of the things he has said to be in very poor taste and he was oblivious to how others might disapprove of the way he behaved. Then again, he's a teacher just like my parents and they have this terrible habit of getting so used to doing whatever they wanted in front of their students because their students were never going to have the authority to challenge them on matters like that. I suppose back when I was first introduced to my husband's family, I genuinely wanted to get along with them as I have had a terrible experience trying to get along with my own family - perhaps this was a second chance to try this family thing and get it right. My late mother-in-law did make a huge effort in trying to organize these big family gatherings and I wanted to show up, be on my best behaviour to make her happy, all she wanted was for us to all turn up and have fun. Then in 2015, Bill got involved in a very serious traffic accident - he was the passenger in a bus which had a head on collision with a car driven by an old lady who fell asleep behind the wheel. The car had swerved right into the bus and the bus driver tried to avoid the car but to no avail, resulting in a horrific crash which killed the old lady, severely injuring the passenger in her car along with many passengers in the bus as the bus ploughed into a wall trying to avoid the car. The side of the bus that Bill was on took the brunt of the impact and Bill was trapped under a prison of crushed metal for hours whilst the firefighters had to try to cut him free, all that time not knowing whether or not they would be able to save his life or not given how badly injured he was. I remember getting the phone call to warn us that Bill's legs were totally crushed and he could die any moment. Bill survived the crash but with such very serious injuries, he could barely walk again after that. He spent many months in a wheelchair and now manages to get around with the help of a walking stick.
That was back in 2015 and since then, it has been a case of, "poor Bill, he suffered so much in that taccident, we all feel so sorry for him, let's wish him a swift recovery and offer him emotional support". I suppose that injury made him even more obnoxious, given that no one held him to account for anything he said or did, no matter how nasty or cruel it was. I witnessed how he treated his own children really badly and was even shockingly rude to his daughter-in-law's mother, which I thought was really crossing the line. But like everyone else, his daughter-in-law's mother simply defaulted to that same response of, "yes I know he was rude, but that's Bill and he was in that terrible accident in the bus, so let's give him a free pass and not hold him to account." Furthermore, my mother-in-law passed away in 2019 so I no longer felt the need to pretend to get along with Bill just to give my mother-in-law the impression that she had a big happy family. So given the complexities of the situation, I didn't expect anyone else in my husband's family to stand up to Bill when he was behaving badly, given that he could easily play the "but I nearly died in that accident and I am still traumatized" card with them to get away with anything. I finally decided that I needed to draw a line on the matter - I told my husband I never ever wanted to see Bill ever again in my life, I would not be in the same room as him and if he was ever going to be present at a family gathering, then I would not attend. I hardly think Bill was going to miss my presence, I was told not to take his behaviour personally but after I witnessed the way he was so rude to his daughter-in-law's mother (who is a sweet and kind lady who would never be mean to anyone), I had to explain it to my husband like that. "I'm merely keeping my distance to protect myself, I don't want to have to call him rude and obnoxious in front of your family because I think you guys are all enabling his bad behaviour. I'm not spoiling for a fight with Bill or your family, I just don't need that kind of crap in my life now and I would like you to respect my decision please." My husband didn't challenge my decision but what surprised me though was my sister-in-law's reaction, she told my husband that she totally understood why I felt that way and she was very sorry for Bill's bad behaviour. She wasn't blind to Bill's obnoxious nature, she clearly didn't like it but she chose to put up with it. Thus I have since cut off all contact from Bill and it was something I really should have done a long time ago, as I gained absolutely nothing from that relationship, even if Bill was a part of my extended family.It was relatively easy to cut Bill out of my life given he is the husband of my sister-in-law but it was an experiment I suppose and I was pleased with the result - after all, this was something I do with ordinary friends as well. Let me give you an example: you might remember this friend of mine 'Vera' whom I had featured in a post from a while ago. Well, late last year, she said something quite offensive to me and I'm not going to go into it now, but the bottom line is, I had two choices at that point. Even if I acknowledged that she didn't mean to cause offense and had said it because of her poor social skills, it would then involve me making the effort to explain to her why what she said was inappropriate and how she should improve her social skills when dealing with the topic. Or I could just give up on her and ignore her - I chose the latter as I felt that I really didn't get that much from my friendship with Vera to make me want to invest that effort to try to 'fix' her. If I was quite happy to do that to Vera, then it made complete sense to do the same to Bill. I realized it really didn't bother me at all if I never spoke to Vera or Bill ever again, I'd be perfectly fine with that. I then applied the same principle to my own family members and realized that if I were to put aside the fact that I am related by blood to them, I probably feel the same way about them as I do about Vera and Bill. So for example, if my parents passed away without me ever seeing them or talking to them again, I'd be perfectly fine with that. I suppose the question is what I would miss out on if I didn't speak to Vera again, but let me make a comparison to another friend I had been talking with a lot recently. As you have read, I had to do jury duty recently and I was very nervous about it as I didn't know what to expect. My friend Ken had done it before and he spent a lot of time talking to me about it, explaining to me what to expect and it made me realize that not only was Ken helpful and dependable at a time like this, the next time I faced a serious problem, he would be one of the first people I would turn to for help and advice. In contrast, I didn't even tell Vera that I had to do jury duty as I didn't think she was intelligent enough to give me any useful advice on the matter. Thus I'd want to hold on to friends like Ken whilst I'm really not that bothered if I never speak to Vera ever again. It is important to make a distinction between friends like Ken and friends like Vera; so if I am willing to be that pragmatic with my friends, I really ought to apply the same rules to my own family. This is not being ruthless or harsh, it's simply being practical and logical.
The key problem I have with my parents is that I don't think they're that interested in being parents. They took very little interest in what I got up to when I was growing up and here's a funny story to drive home the point about how little interest they took in me. When I came out as gay, my parents were in total shock as they had paid so little attention to me, they had no idea that I could be gay. My sisters knew of course since I was young and they even said that if I had turned out to be straight, they would be shocked. But even the neighbour next door, let's call her Auntie Kaypoh (Hokkien for 'busybody') she was this housewife who didn't work and had plenty of spare time on her hands to poke her nose everywhere - even she figured out that I was gay a long time ago, probably about the same time as my sisters. So if Auntie Kaypoh could figure out that I was a gay boy back in the day, one can only wonder just how utterly disinterested my parents were to totally let my sexuality escape their attention. I do a lot of volunteer work with my university alumni and one thing I have done was help a lot of young graduates find work experience, work placements and internships in order to help them find their dream job. I have to go through their exam results and look at their CVs as part of that process and that's when it dawned upon me: not only do my parents have no idea what I do for a living, they have never ever done the equivalent of looking at my CV to find out what I have achieved. My parents have no idea what I do for a living, I am not even sure they know the name of the universities I attended, never mind what I studied there. I believe that a relationship ought to be two-way, A shows interest in B and B will in turn reciprocate and show interest in A, that interest is a two-way street. There is one thing that my parents do which really upsets me - they often talk about things I did when I was in primary school as if it was just yesterday and I point out that they only do that because they have not paid any attention to me since I was a teenager so they have absolutely no idea what I have done in the last three decades and their only frame of reference is when I was a little boy. But imagine you are interested in someone and you ask them out for a date, they say no to you a few time and it is clear they're not interested. Most of us would just accept, okay they're not interested, I get the message and move on. It simply isn't rational to keep asking them out after they've said no to you already, so I'm applying the same principle to my relationship with my parents, it's the rational thing to do.
My two older sisters face the same problems as I do but they do maintain this one-sided relationship with my parents whereby my parents take little interest in what is going on in their lives whilst they still go out of their way to take good care of my parents. Do they enjoy it? No. Do my parents drive them mad? Yes, all the time. Let me give you one such example of how my parents hurt my sisters' feelings: my second sister is a civil servant who works for the ministry of health and in recognition for her outstanding contribution to public service during the Covid-19 pandemic, she was given an award by the government. She told my parents about receiving the award but my parents didn't really react, being the kind of person she is, my sister let that incident go as she thought, well my parents are too stupid to even realize what a big deal it is, it's not their fault they are stupid and uneducated. Then just to rub salt in the wound and add insult to injury, a family friend won the same award - my parents then shared the news at the dinner table, totally forgetting that my sister had told them that she had won the same award as well but just to totally break my sister's heart, they were heaping praises on this family friend who won the award when they didn't even offer much of an acknowledgement when my sister told them that she had won that very same award. This is the kind of mindfuck that my parents offer: are they doing it deliberately to try to hurt my sister or are they that stupid? When my sister told my parents that she had won the same award, they just got confused and asked her, "really? When? Why didn't you tell us about it then?" My mother would then play the "I'm old, my memory isn't good anymore, it is not my fault so you can't blame me" card. Now it might be possible that my sister was too modest to explain to my parents what a big deal receiving that award was and that other person who told my parents about this family friend winning that same award doesn't suffer from that same problem of excess modesty - it is a lot easier to heap praises on a third party ("he has done so well, he is incredible!") than trying to praise yourself when telling another party ("I have done so well, I'm the best!") so that may explain why my parents didn't register at all when my sister informed them that she had won that award. Regardless, my sister has learnt her lesson and will no longer tell my parents when good things happen to her, just to spare herself that disappointment in the future.
One of my greatest accomplishments in the two years is that I had left a well-paid full time job in banking, took a huge risk by setting up my own company and had been able to make a decent profit in my first year. In a recent discussion with my reader Amanda, I had explained to her that my objective was never to make as much money as possible, but to create a situation where I can have complete control over my own time whilst making enough money to sustain me in a very comfortable lifestyle. So for example, if I feel like taking a long holiday, I am simply do it because I don't need to ask anyone for permission and as long as I am keeping on top of everything on my phone whilst on holiday, I will be perfectly fine. I contrast that to the situation with my sisters - they both work hideously, ridiculously long hours in Singapore and whilst they command a respectable salary for their age, you have to look at their hourly rate to break down just how productive they are. They often put in 60, 70 hours a week, at times even 90 hours a week whilst I rarely exceed 12 to 15 hours a week - yet because I am a consultant providing innovative solutions to my clients, I could be relaxing in the bath or skiing in the mountains and as long as I am still engaging my brain to come up with great ideas, I can still be productive and get a lot done. Whereas my sisters have to be in the office, working with their teams in order to get anything done. I don't mean to judge them, but it is evident that I'm in a much more comfortable position given how little work I have to do to generate a much higher level of income. In a sense, my sisters ended up just like my parents who were primary school teachers - they weren't that poor as they were gainfully employed, but given the long hours they had to work, it left them with little or no time to do the things that made them happy. Perhaps noticing this stark contrast between me and my sisters would remind them that this aspect of their lives as teachers was far from ideal, that's why they have chosen to ignore it. Or it might be that they have never met anyone like me before given that all their friends and family are so working class - I'm the exception to the rule that they just can't get their heads around. Either way, I have given up trying to make them understand as I want to spare myself that disappointment. I would've hoped that they would be happy for me to be in this ideal position, but how can they be happy for me if they can't even begin to understand how I got there, or why this is much better than what the norm is in their working class Singaporean society?
So allow me to share with you something that happened in my gym recently for comparison - there's this guy we shall call Mark (not his real name), he shared some good news with us recently. Mark managed to find a new job, it was with a good company and it was really well paid. Needless to say, Mark was extremely happy with the situation and he couldn't wait to tell his friends at the gym. I said something polite like well done, good for you or something like that but the fact is, I said it for the sake of saying something and to be honest, I didn't really know Mark well enough to genuinely feel anything at that point - it was just my social conditioning to react politely. Now if it was someone else whom I was closer to, then I think my reaction might have been more genuine, rather than the one I had come up with. Heck, let's turn this around and imagine if I was told that Mark had a really good job that he enjoyed and was suddenly fired from it due to an unfortunate mistake he had made at work, he is distraught over what has happened and shares his story at the gym with his friends. If something like that happened, I would probably say something comforting, encouraging and supportive out of social convention, as I would feel the need to be a nice person in such a situation but would I actually be saddened by the situation? Not really, because again, I am not close enough to Mark to really care that much whether something good or bad has happened to him. I can objectively judge a situation and say, yes that's a great job offer with a famous company, that pay package is above market rates, this is evidently a fantastic opportunity; or in the case of the latter, I would be able to say something like, with your kind of work experience, relevant knowledge and transferable skills, I'm sure you would be able to find another good job soon. I would react with my head, not my heart - my brain will analyse the situation and offer a response based on logic but my heart really doesn't get involved, there will be a response devoid of emotion simply because I really don't care that much what happens to Mark at the end of the day given that I barely know him. That's very much the same situation I have with my parents - they do not really respond whether I bring them good or bad news; thus I'm left wondering if their lack of any kind of emotional response is either because a) they really don't care what happens to me as we don't have any real relationship to speak of or b) they simply don't understand what the hell is going on as they're just too stupid. I think it is a combination of both, which is a double whammy: like even if I do somehow manage to explain it to them in a way that they can actually understand - they still wouldn't care either way.
Thus I feel like I'm left in this situation whereby I can't tell them anything bad that happens to me, since they will neither be able to help or even begin to understand what is going on. I can't tell them anything good that happens to me since once again, they can't even begin to understand what it is I do in the world of business. I remember quite cruelly trying this experiment once, I once told my sister and my mother something complex that I was doing at work and I knew there was no way in hell either of them would even begin to understand what I said. I then asked them quite innocently, "do you understand?" My mother was the first to say, "yes I understand" despite the fact that she clearly didn't, she did that because she feared she would 'lose face' and embarrass herself by coming across as stupid if she had admitted to not understanding what I had just said. This is so similar to when I speak to young children, I automatically change the way I speak - I lower my expectations, I avoid complex topics that I know the children won't understand and I would even use simple language to help them understand better. That is exactly what it is like speaking to my parents, I feel like I am speaking to a bunch of young kids who are incapable of handling an adult conversation and no, this is not something new - it has always felt like that since I was a teenager. The way my sisters deal with this challenge is to simply say, "I have other friends to speak to if I need intelligent advice, I don't turn to my parents, in fact I barely even talk to them at all but I still take care of them out of duty since they are old." I suppose I felt that way when my nephew was much younger, I completely lowered my expectations when I was dealing with him as a boy - I bought him gifts, I played silly games with him, I gave him praise and encouragement and all I wanted in return was some kind of relationship with him as an uncle and for me to be a small part of his life despite the fact that we don't live in the same country. I was lucky to have been given the chance to help him through his A level economics exam where I had a reason to speak to him on a weekly basis and it did leave me thinking: if this is what I am willing to do for my nephew, why didn't I feel the same thing from my own parents? And if I didn't get this from my parents, then why did they even bother having children if they have no parental instincts at all? Do people of my parents' generation simply start families without ever asking the question, "do I really want to be a parent? What will I do as a parent to create a meaningful relationship with my children? Do I want to get to know my children well? If my child stops talking to me for over a year, what would I do to mend that relationship?"
My eldest sister and parents have made no effort to contact me in the last 12 months - my second sister did come to London and spent a few hours with me, but that went badly wrong as she totally misfired (and that is another story that I have covered in two previous posts). But hey, at least she made an effort and got it wrong, that's better than not bothering at all. Allow me to give you another example of when not bothering really says a lot: I was shopping after I had completed my jury duty (well, I had a good reason to celebrate) and I went to this clothing store near the courthouse. I did see this jacket which I thought was nice but it had no price tag on it. The store was crowded at that time, I looked around to see if there was a sales assistant who may be able to tell me the price of that jacket but no one was available at the time as the store was quite busy then. I then put the jacket back where I had found it and just forgot about it - I guess I didn't really like it that much. If I really liked that jacket, then I would have hunted down the manager to get the price or at least went back to it a little bit later when there was a shop assistant available to help me. If I had really loved it, then I would have said to that jacket, you are coming home with me, money is no object, I will buy you today regardless of the price. But no, I took a second look at it and thought, it's not bad but I'm really not that bothered whether I found out the price of not and I didn't want to feel compelled to buy it if it had been on offer, as a rule, one should always buy new pieces of clothing because you really love it, not because it is on offer and you were offered a good price. If you bought something at a sale because you thought it was cheap, rather than because you totally loved it, then you probably wouldn't wear it much and it would be a pointless purchase. So I walked out of that store without bothering to even find out the price of that jacket and I don't regret that decision, I trust my initial, honest reaction. There's really nothing to stop my parents from making some kind of effort to reach out to me but if they can't be asked to even try then that does tell me all I need to know about how they feel about me. They are just not that interested, it is the same way I feel about the jacket I didn't buy that day - there is a reason for inaction, it does tell me that they totally lack the motivation to try to keep me as a part of their lives. This has been the situation for many years and it just got to the point where I had to say, if you are not interested in being my parents, then by that token, I'm not interested in being your son.
If they had something more interesting in their lives than their children, then I would be happy for them to simply focus their energies on those activities instead and at least, they would be having fun doing those activities. But no, that's not the case at all. When Covid-19 hit hard, they were deemed vulnerable because of their age and thus had to avoid all contact outside the immediate family - that suited them well as they were no longer social recluses with no friends but became law abiding citizens following medical advice by staying at home and avoiding meeting people. But when the pandemic was finally over, they still were effectively cut off from society, having little contact with anyone outside the immediate family. It's almost as if they didn't get the memo that the pandemic is over and normal activities can resume. My second sister did tell me how she had tried so hard to enrol them in a list of activities for elderly folks to stay active, my parent adamantly refused to partake in any of those. My sister then tried to offer to take them on holiday, again they refused to entertain that idea and called it too 麻烦 (troublesome) - in a last ditch attempt, my sister suggested a staycation in a nice local Singaporean resort and they called it a waste of money. It's like they reacted so badly to every suggestion my sister had offered and made it sound like she was trying to torture them, to put them through a very uncomfortable, unpleasant experience. The way I see it, they are in that 等死 (waiting to die) mindset, they probably wake up in the morning and think, damn why am I still alive? Now I have to do all of these things like have meals, pass the time between meals and all I can do is watch TV between meals. That's where my sister and I are different - you see, my opinion is that if they are really at that 等死 stage of their lives, then it is utterly pointless trying to change their minds and it is best to just leave them to their own devices, let them do whatever they want since they are not going to appreciate any of your efforts to fill their lives with interesting and rewarding activities to get them out of the house. That is why I can't take it personally, they've not just given up on me - they have given up on everything in life including themselves - that is why they are not even interested in my sister paying for them to take part in those activities to have fun. Even with the most filial, perfect Asian daughter making a genuine effort to try to please them, they have still given up on life and slipped into that 等死 mode. At least that tells me that I had spared myself the disappointment of trying and ending up with the very same result. I know that it sounds grim, but at this stage, I just have to be pragmatic about it now.
I'm afraid that in our Asian culture, we encourage our parents to behave very badly and allow them to get away with hideously bad behaviour by offering them unconditional respect and never holding them to account. This means that they never learn the basic principle that if you want people to be nice to you, to like to spend time with you, you must first have to be kind to them, show them love and attention in order to create a conducive environment where a relationship can flourish. But no, our Asian culture is so fucked up, that never happens. My late grandmother used to call for an ambulance to take her to the hospital whenever she felt neglected by her children, like she couldn't just pick up the phone to invite us around for dinner - no, she had to cook up some ridiculous story that she was dying of neglect. On my last visit to Singapore, my sister had invited the entire family to her house for a nice dinner - most of the people were fussing over my nephew as he was the only child and my mother felt neglected. But instead of trying to engage the others in meaningful conversation, she came up with some seriously fucked up Asian mother drama. She went into the kitchen to inspect the food my sister had prepared and starting screaming as if there was rat poison in the food - I ran to the kitchen only to realize that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the food (it was actually really good as my sister had made such an effort and spent a lot of money on that dinner), but my mother wanted attention. She started berating my sister about how terrible the food was and I was the only one in the family who could tell my mother, stop all this bullshit right now, you just want attention and I'm not letting you get away with this bullshit. But no, instead of thanking me for trying to reign in my mother's bad behaviour, the rest of my family looked at me as if I had just poisoned my mother. My eldest sister even tried to pacify my mother by offering to take her to a nice restaurant of her choice if she didn't like the food and I was like, this is fucked up, this is bullshit, you're rewarding my mother's bad behaviour instead of punishing her for it - how is this normal? How is this acceptable to you guys? If a child behaved that badly in an Asian family, I am sure the parents would not hesitate to punish that child with a beating at once, but if an Asian parent behaves badly, not only do they get away with that bullshit, they are rewarded for it by getting what they want with no consequences. That's why this isn't just about my parents, it is also about how my sisters have handled the situation incorrectly and how I'm protesting by saying, fuck this bullshit, I reject this as I don't approve of it and I want no part of it.
So here we are, in this status quo where we don't talk anymore - my parents are disappointed that their son has given up trying to have a relationship with them and it is clear from this post that I am completely disappointed in them. Perhaps the most obvious thing to do at this stage is to just give up as both parties are disappointed with each other (and that's putting it mildly) to spare each other any further disappointment. I know that this is going to continue until the day I get a message from my sister to inform me that my father has passed away. Therefore I'm 100% prepared to never ever speak to my father again even if that means not talking to him again before he dies eventually. The only thing I have to say to him is to tell him what a terrible father I think he is and how he has let me down, but no, what is the point of that? I am not looking for a fight, I don't want to make things worse, so simply cutting off all contact until he dies is the only option left now. I don't even think I will feel that sad when that eventually happens, after all I'm not talking to him whilst he is still alive, so what difference would him passing away make? I'm sorry this is a rather grim post but I just had to get all this off my chest. In fact my readers know me a lot better than my own parents, given that you've taken the trouble to read my most private, inner thoughts and feelings that I have shared here and I appreciate you taking the time to get to know me better, that's something my parents have not done before. Please leave a comment below and many thanks for reading.
Hey Alex. I was talking with my best friend about this since she also has troubles with her family. I said "we shouldn't have to fight so hard to use logic or facts to explain to someone what they're doing wrong in order for them to respect us and care that our feelings were hurt. Only to be disappointed when after all that effort the other side really doesn't care if we're hurting and will either ignore us or send out some nasty insults or threats." In my personal opinion, your parents are abusive, they should be lucky to get any contact/care from you when you receive so little back.
ReplyDeleteOh regarding ghosting, I'm kinda the same as you. I realized I've hardly ever had a peaceful argument with my mom where she considers my side and values my opinion, that I don't think starting conflicts with friends are worth it. Instead I just give up on them if they piss me off. My best friend is like "even if you think the other side will throw a tantrum if you confront them, maybe just confront them to say your piece so you don't feel like you have to hide your feelings all the time." It seems you have been subjected to the same thing, every argument with your parents ends up in disaster: ignoring, insults, or threats. Like I'm so scared of being ignored, insulted, or threatened that I hardly ever speak up when there are issues. But I don't think that's a good thing. In my childhood I couldn't just run away to get a different set of parents, so with the unreasonable one I just had to never start fights. But in adulthood if someone does throw a tantrum I could walk away, but if they don't throw a tantrum after being confronted, then I get to keep a friend. It's just I'm so traumatized by tantrums that I'm not willing to take that risk or get close to people, but I'm working on that. The closer you get to someone the more chances of arguments.
Delete@LIFT, I can completely relate to your experience since it has been 10 months since I last contacted my father after he called me all sorts of names and gave all sorts of (useless) unsolicited advice. This is not even the longest period I have maintained radio silence with him and I think going back there have been years where no contact have been made previously. It was foolish of me to attempt to re-establish relations in the first place.
DeleteI think we should have the right to disconnect or disengage from toxic relationships with friends and family both. After all I don’t see the point in engaging or maintaining the appearance of a relationship when one party wants to horde all the attention and doesn’t respect or benefit the other party.
Hi Choaniki - let me take a step back from my own situation and analyse this a bit more objectively. It was very easy for me to cut off Vera since she is just a friend and I don't have much to do with her, I can simply choose to spend times with other friends. With Bill, it's a bit more tricky - I would check if he would be present at family gatherings and if he is there, I won't attend but it's still possible to avoid him. But as for my parents, well, the fact that I live in the UK solves the problem as I simply avoid going to Singapore for my holidays - which isn't hard given how far away Singapore is. But some people would argue that despite how poorly our parents behave, they still brought us up and thus children owe their parents a debt of gratitude for that (ie. changing our diapers when we were babies), hence in order to repay this debt, we need to allow them to get away with some bad behaviour within reason. My father would even bring up the fact that child birth is a painful process that my mother suffered just to give birth to me and I owe her for that. What is your response to that? I was like, well let's blame the asshole who got her pregnant in the first place, if he had worn a condom, then she would have never had to go through with pregnancy. You're blaming the wrong person here for her painful child birth.
Delete@LIFT, I get the same unsolicited advice from people too who came from normal family backgrounds. They said my parents are old and i have limited time to normalise relations with them. I always tell them that relationships take 2 hands to clap. If one party wants to reconcile but the other doesn’t see anything wrong with the relationship in the first place, nothing will progress. Since I haven’t depended on my parents for financial or other areas of support in close to 3 decades (left home at age 19), I am perfectly fine not keeping in contact with them. In fact I have begun to be more selective in the friends I keep as well. I cut off one friend whom I was on good terms with since secondary school because he was just too gullible. He was the one I mentioned who fell victim to many scams and cost his parents their life savings.
DeleteAllow me to offer my own answer to my question on the issue of having that debt of gratitude. I recently watched a video from China where a lady who claimed to have had bad service and food at a restaurant kicks up a really big fuss, because she felt firstly that she was being treated poorly by the staff and that as a paying customer, she is entitled to a better level of service. She refused to pay the full amount of the bill, getting into a massive argument with the restaurant manager who then had to call the police to intervene. The reaction to that video is mixed - some viewers felt sorry for her, because she had complaint but the staff did not respond to her demands to make things right and she was genuinely let down. On the other hand, some viewers felt that the restaurant did not look particularly high class or posh, so you get what you pay for, if you want to go for a cheap experience and not spend too much money on your meal, then you are obliged to lower your expectations. In this case study, one has to try to ascertain just how bad the food/service was for the customer to justifiably say "I am not paying for that, you didn't deliver. You cannot expect me to pay for it or pay the full amount." With that in mind, some people will argue that whilst I did have problems in my relationship with my parents, where do you draw the line? At what stage does the abuse get so bad that you have to just have to cut them off and never ever speak to them ever again? I think some people would argue that whilst my parents have behaved poorly, there are other parents worse than mine and so I am not justified to go for the nuclear option of "I'm never speaking to you ever again"; but my response to that is that two wrongs never make a right and thus whilst I feel sorry for people who have had worse parents than me, I still feel justified in the decisions I have taken in this regard.
DeleteHey Alex, that is so inconsiderate that your mom bullied your sister into booking a plane ticket earlier, and didn't care that you were busy that week. Like you said, it was all just a show of power to win an argument rather than to find a compromise that pleases both sides. I think this is where you draw the line, if the other side only ever cares about getting what they want, and only does nice things if they think they will get something out of it, that's not a functional relationship. But I think you're a victim of the Chinese expression of "moral kidnapping", where abusive parents say "you owe me for all the money I spent raising you." Firstly, did both parties have a say in a child being born? No, the child didn't have a say, and it was solely the parents who made the decision. Secondly, who benefits from a child being born? It was the person making the decision who wanted a family to fit into society. My sister is a victim of this moral kidnapping as well, as am I. I just realized my mom is an asshole who pulls out the "but I raised you when I could've aborted you" card whenever she's losing an argument, but my sister buys it because she's not someone who feels very powerful in life. For me, I always dreamt of earning lots of money and becoming financially independent so I wouldn't have to put up with this bullshit anymore, and I have achieved that. My sister is kinda bad at long term planning so never committed to playing the long game to do well in her career to get out.
DeleteAlso, I think this is a cultural thing where Asian children are taught to have blind faith loyalty in their parents, despite the things they do. A Singaporean friend once told me that it's pretty common for elderly parents to threaten suicide if they don't get what they want from their kids. In the West that is considered emotional blackmail. It makes me think, in the West you hear so many stories of single mothers/fathers who had to push their ex out of the picture because they were a physically abusive alcoholic/drug addict who was bad with money or a serial cheater, etc., but you don't hear that in Asia. On the surface it sounds like there are less issues in Asia, but no, I think the issues are less financial/physical and more emotional. And also it's underreported because I think many Asian parents would rather stay together unhappy and keep secrets to maintain face. I have a Singaporean friend who absolutely hates his elderly dad and complains about him all the time, but still takes the dad to the hospital and pays his medical bills because he is the eldest child. He will never say "you never make me smile and are a net negative to my life so I am ghosting you", instead it's just "well he's my dad, and I'm the eldest child, so I have to take care of him even if I don't like him." In contrast, I have a white friend from South America in his 40s who told me he hasn't spoken to his mother in 10 years, and the last he saw her was at his father's funeral. He said he just can't tolerate her being bipolar and constantly starting fights and never compromising, and he couldn't give less of a fuck who will support his mother in retirement or take her to the hospital. She made his childhood miserable, so she doesn't deserve his help. I think that's the way to go, nobody deserves a slave who unconditionally loves them despite all the abuse they tolerate. People don't even think its right if dogs are treated that way.
On the issue of the plane tickets, it's not just a question of geography (whether the second week of December is always colder than the first week of December), it's more a question of my mother just flexing her control over my sister. It's like a game she plays - it's no longer about geography or the weather but whether or not my mother can get her way by force. The irony is that no matter what month or week of the year they come, my parents are free as they are retired whereas I am the one who has to juggle work commitments. If that's the kind of games she plays, then my sister is trying to get her involved in some other kind of activities (sports, culture, leisure etc) so she can channel that kind of desire to play games and win into something more normal but no, my mother doesn't want to have hobbies and she only wants to play a game called "let's bully my children" because she always wins that game - I refuse to play that with her as I think that's bullshit. My parents won't change, they're always going to be like that, I just don't wanna fight with them and I don't want any more abuse from them and so we are left with this status quo whereby we just don't talk anymore.
DeleteYeah I kinda see why your parents don't really have friends, they like having one-sided relationships where they hold all the power and the only person's opinion that matters is their own. And the only people they have that with is their kids. That plane ticket thing reminds me of my mom too, I hated making travel plans with her because she'd only pick what was convenient for her and not what was convenient for me, nevermind if I had school or work to do, or was just broke and couldn't spend as much. Yeah it sounds best if you don't talk to such tantrum throwers anymore.
DeleteY'know the worst part about going no contact with people like that is the other side will never admit fault and go "oh I really miss my son Alex. Let me see how he is doing and ask if there's anything I can do to make him feel better." Its like "wow, I meant so little to you, ghosting was the right choice." I felt bad about ghosting Jonas at first, till I realized he doesn't really reach out to me much unless he needs a ride because his car is busted. If he doesn't add much to my life, then I shouldn't feel bad for leaving. Even if he does add a lot, if I don't like someone I don't have to be friends with them either. Only people in power would manipulate someone like that by saying "Don't I do a lot for you? You're a bad person for leaving", when they should always respect someone leaving because it's not working out for them. It's insane how your parents can just punish or insult a primary school kid as much as they like to get what they want, then try the same tactic on their adult children. I try to tell myself "I'm allowed to not like someone and walk away", but also "I'm allowed to make mistakes." But I was never given that kind of grace by my narcissistic mother, so it's hard.
DeleteI don't want ghosting my parents to come across as some kind of cruel decision to make them miss me - it's not like that at all, I don't even think they are vaguely interested in what I do with my life, they don't know what I do for a living, they really don't care either way. I have this memory of my aunt in Singapore whom I visited some years back when she was still alive (alas, she has passed away since), she said something like, "come and visit me more often!" I don't know how serious she was and I replied like, yeah you can come and visit me in London too you know. But at least that was something that crept up in the conversation with my aunt - did my parents once ask me to come to see them in Singapore? Nope, even my aunt asked me to go visit her more often, my parents never asked me once. If that's the case, then I'm like, well, I am ghosting you to spare myself that kind of interaction where you show me just how little you care. It's Chinese new year and I got greetings from my friends as usual (including Choaniki) but again, radio silence from my family. And I'm like, whatever I don't care, I've got so much to do before going to Kazakhstan and they don't even know or care why I wanna go to Kazakhstan.
DeleteOh no, I never thought you would expect them to miss you. They show so little interest when you go visit them or are on a skype call with your sisters I doubt they would. Its like you said, why bother putting effort if the other side isn't? It's like putting money in a stock that only goes down in price, hoping it will come back up someday, whilst losing money the whole time. That sounds like a pretty nice aunt, were you two close? I totally forgot it was Chinese new year recently until my boyfriend pointed it out, and he's a white American guy. Living in the West I just don't celebrate it anymore even though it was a big deal growing up.
Delete@LIFT, I think you were correct to pick your battles. Life’s short and you do not have the bandwidth to worry about things beyond your control like the relationships with your parents and 2 sisters. I went on a house visit to one of my benefactors (considered my god mother).The relationship between her and all her children and me is so much better than that of my own parents. I choose to maintain such relationships rather than the toxic one with my parents.
DeleteWow that is a really cool story. She correctly identified which businessmen would pay for convenience to get hawker food "omakase" like and not fuss over which food to pick and turned it into a profit. It doesn't surprise me that your parents aren't close to their siblings, like you mentioned your dad hates his much richer brother too and also finds bad things to say about him. But it's sad you didn't get to be close to family outside your immediate family. I'm close to one of my cousins, he lives in Singapore and I'm visiting in March. I had plenty of time to sort out logistics since this trip was a long time coming, but yours is more last minute. Is it hard to find and book transport options in advanced? What kinda infrastructure does Kazakhstan have?
DeleteHi Choaniki - I think we deal in a world where people are imperfect and allow me to give you an example. I have another old friend in Singapore we shall refer to as Mr Sim, he irritated me recently when he simply didn't know what to say to comfort or support me when I went to do jury duty, facing the prospect of being stuck in a long and difficult trial. But what he did was this: he sent me a gift and it arrived today - like that was totally unexpected. So in this case, Mr Sim may be a friend who hasn't got the best social skills and may say some clumsy things at times which may come across as inappropriate, but upon receiving the gift, I realized that he does care and he was trying to use the gift to compensate for the fact that he didn't have the right words for me when I was super stressed when I was on jury duty. So yeah, it's never that straight forward, is it? You have great social skills so you knew what to say to me when I had jury duty - Mr Sim didn't but at least he was aware that he was not able to come up with the right responses so he sent a gift instead, which was a very kind gesture.
Delete@Amanda, yeah, tourists have the time to explore Singapore's wonders but visiting businessmen who fly in for a couple of meetings or an event and then fly out immediately after simply don't have that luxury so she was able to at least give them that aspect of the Singaporean experience to make sure they had a spread of hawker food waiting for them when they got back after a long day of meetings. She even told me that the Japanese businessmen were super generous as well, though she would serve anyone who was willing to pay. I simply cannot imagine my parents having the social skills to create a side hustle out of thin air like that - this was back in the 1980s/1990s so social media wasn't a thing yet, it was a completely different generation and a long time ago. My mother has a problem with us getting close to our cousins - it's like she doesn't even want that to happen; I'll give you this story in a nutshell. My aunt has a daughter whom we shall call Ah Girl or AG for short, she is the same age as one of my sisters. Some years ago, my mother said to AG at a family gathering that my sister was living beyond her means and getting into debt. AG is a sensible and well educated woman, so AG went to my sister and said, "I think you should know your mother said this to me." My sister was super indignant that she was NOT in debt and how she wants to spend her hard earned money was nobody's business, certainly it wasn't for my mother to judge. So my sister confronted my mother and my mother just lied and denied that she said anything at all to AG - she then called AG a liar, just like her mother, saying that family is full of crooks who are so dishonest, I hate them all and we should never speak to them. And I know AG well enough to know that AG would never lie about something like that and between AG and my mother, I trust AG a lot more than my own mother. But my sister being her, decided not to make a big deal out of it and just dropped the topic given that she knew my mother would burn bridges with AG just to prove a point and my sister didn't want things to get worse - my sister wanted to let sleeping dogs lie and maintain the peace. So when my sister told me that story, I reassured her, yeah our mother is a psycho bitch from hell whilst AG is actually completely trustworthy, if I may be totally objective about the situation.
As for logistics for this trip, I'm visiting Istanbul (28 hour stop over), Almaty (5.5 days) and Bishkek (3.5 days). There are some things to see and do in the city but trying to plan the day trips out of town is always a challenge as it involves dealing with local tour agencies who speak the local language (Kazakh or Kyrgyz) + Russian but very little English. It is a lot cheaper to join a Russian speaking tour group (since I do speak Russian) than do an English speaking group as they assume that English speaking tourists from places like America, Australia, UK, Canada are rich and can pay more but Russian tourists are more tight with money. So I am trying to do all these bookings with the local agents on the ground before I get there (entirely in Russian) so I can be more relaxed knowing that I've gotten everything sorted in advance.
Delete@LIFT, in Mr Sim’s case I doubt there was malice involved so you don’t have to ghost him like you do your parents. I would say that I don’t have the best social skills but was quick to adapt over the years. Go back a couple of years and you can see my comments, some were truly cringe worthy. But for people who intentionally hurt you (verbally or physically) then by all means cut these toxic people out of your life.
DeleteI don't know if you recall but after Mr Sim texted me on Whatsapp, I took a deep breath and then came ranting to you and you knew how to respond. He was the one who started and ended every text message with LOL or Hahahaha, which I felt was highly inappropriate when the other party was very stressed and unhappy. But there's simply the complete absence of malice in Mr Sim's case, he is a friend, albeit one with poor social skills but he clearly cares, that's why he took the trouble to send me the gift which arrived yesterday and that's why I want to keep him as a friend even if the situation is somewhat imperfect as he can say some cringeworthy things to me at times.
Delete@LIFT, I have learnt that even though some matter might not mean much to you, or you do not have much experience with it, it is still possible to provide emotional support by being an active listener. This is in contrast to my father, who always comes up with unsolicited critiques when I first approached him to act as a guarantor for my career switch to healthcare. I didn't even ask him for any career advice. The most annoying part about his unsolicited advice is that none of it is lived experience. He told me that IT is a good industry to remain in based on what he has read from the mainstrea media (all propaganda) and that the healthcare industry is dirty work with lots of foreigners (partly true only). Some of his other anecdotal stories include one about his "friend" who managed to raise 2 kids on a single income working as a manager at McDonalds or some Malaysian blue collar worker in his company drawing a pay of about 3k and able to be happily married with kids. It is either he is intentionally turning a blind eye to all my struggles or just trying to make himself feel superior that he managed to pay off his mortgage and raise a family of 3 kids on his single income. None of what he says or does make me feel heard or supported in anyway, so radio silence from now would be the best move!
DeleteWell Choaniki, from what you've told me, your father has terrible social skills because he has simply failed to consider the effects of what he is saying on the other party such as how the other party would respond. So for example, if I am making a statement about Islam, I would first consider if I am speaking to a Muslim person or not as well as how that person might feel about Islam before actually opening my mouth - based on how the other party would respond, I would be make sure I say the right things to press the right buttons and avoid causing offence. But your father simply said the first thing that came to his mind without bothering to think twice about how that would be received, that is shockingly poor social skills and my parents often do the same thing - it's just a function of a terrible lack of social skills in this aspect and you can't fix people like that, so it is best to simply avoid them.
DeleteWow that is a very cool story. Yeah Singapore attracts a lot of business visitors because of the finance industry or oil refinery business, but these visitors are from very different cultures and cuisines than Singapore that any food outside of hotel room service would seem exotic. Your sister sounds like my sister, just ignore every single lie, as if it doesn't hurt to be lied to. I have a friend who has a narcissistic dad who is also a psycho asshole that says the worst things to her, and they still have a relationship. I ask her how she manages to deal with him without being paranoid anyone else would do the same, and she says "well I just assume only my dad is a psycho and everyone else is great." I wish I had that kinda compartmentalization, but unfortunately I've become extremely paranoid of getting that kind of response where the liar lies about lying and throws a tantrum thinking they'll get away with it despite logic pointing to the contrary.
DeleteHi Amanda, I don't know how my sister copes with my mother's lying and manipulation, you see, my mother does this thing where she simply denies that something has happened if it suits her and erases that memory. There were two instances that my mother denies ever happened - my mother used to completely lose her temper and then go into a rage and smash things up, once my sister got caught in the cross fire and she grabbed my sister by her hair before slamming her face into the wall. Another time she smashed a glass over my forehead and by some miracle, the glass shattered without leaving me with deep cuts from the broken glass. Now my mother claims that she would never hit a child on the head as that's too dangerous and my sister and I are like, bullshit, when you lost your temper you were like a wild animal completely out of control. I have ghosted my mother as a result because I don't want to get into an argument whereby I tell her that she's a liar, I won't put up with her lying and I don't want to be friends with liars thus we can't have a relationship. I know my mother lies because her social skills are so poor that she doesn't know how else to deal with the realization that "I have been a terrible mother", so she erases her mistakes from her memory not realizing that her own children witnessed her mistakes from the past and she can't wipe our memory at the same time. Now my sister lets her get away with that bullshit, I don't - that's why I don't want to talk to my mother ever again.
DeleteSorry I just realized I referred to only one sister (in the singular above) and of course, I have two sisters and both sisters allow my mother to get away with it.
DeleteHey Alex, it is a miracle you weren't gravely injured after having a glass object smashed on you. Technically that counts as an assault or grievous bodily injury if you did get hurt, and is accompanied by jail time if you wanted to press charges. See it's these type of lies which makes me really down sometimes to the point I forget to make myself happy and my YouTube algorithm shows me the most depressing news stories which I click on and annoy my friends with. My boyfriend was like "hey, let's organize a fencing session outside of class where we can just duel rather than drill." I used to love having these sessions in Singapore because I had a regular friend group who would hold them and also get dinner afterwards. In America though, I don't, and I couldn't figure out why till recently. It turns out, for the last two independent dueling sessions my friend "Jonas" hit me very hard and made me sore for days, but when I confronted him about it he brushed it off like it was nothing. It's one thing to get hurt, it's another when the other side doesn't show any care that you were hurt and continues doing what they're doing. And I'm afraid to get angry about it because whenever our fencing instructor gets angry at Jonas for something, Jonas secretly complains to me "oh he hates black people" or "he hates ghetto people" even though race/class was never brought up. It's this kinda excuse making and not caring about someone else's feelings which really reduce my faith in the world and make me scared to go outside and have fun. But I tell myself, I'm organizing this session for the other fencers, not Jonas. And I can institute a sign up minimum and ground rules on power which everyone has to follow or else they get banned to protect myself. That way if only Jonas signs up, the session is automatically cancelled. As long as the other fencers don't let Jonas get away with injuring me and being a rude little shit about it, I should be happy, even if he is a rude little shit. But part of me wants him to bring up class/race in public just so everyone knows what a little demon on the inside he really is. Growing up with an abusive parent, I just felt like I never had a choice to get away from the abuse, and just had to let the other party get away with it. So it really breaks my heart when one of my first friends from fencing turns out to be an excuse making narcissist, but at least this time he won't get away with it, even if he does disappoint me.
DeleteIf I were to try to reconcile my relationship with my parents, I think there would need to be some kind of third party moderator to try to manage the whole situation in order to force them to see my point of view but they expect to default to this "Chinese parents can never be wrong, we raised you, that means we're always in the right no matter what we did". If my sisters wanted to step into that role and be the moderator, maybe we can get somewhere but instead my sisters are the ones facilitating my parents' Asian behaviour. Thus we are stuck in this status quo and yet more time passes by.
DeleteI guess most outsiders don't have any incentive to act as a moderator to familial conflict. This is the reason why some experts have said that marriage counselling doesn't work. Marriage counsellors are incentivised to keep the relationship (marriage) together. But sometimes the cure is not to keep the relationship but to separate (divorce) as that is the best outcome for both parties. In this case, your sisters are turning a blind eye to their parents bad behavior(s) since they want to avoid conflict and keep the family relationship intact. But this is obviously to the detriment of all the childrens' mental well-being, your's inclusive.
DeleteWell the way I see it, in the West, it is very common to go to a therapist and talk to them about your issues because it takes an independent third party to help you make sense of the situation - they are not emotionally involved, in fact it is precisely because they are so detached that they are in a position to tell judge what you're doing fairly. Perhaps it's unfair to drag someone like my sister into my disputes with my parents as they're just as involved being related to all involved, but that's me being very Angmoh in my approach to think that the best thing to do is to involve a stranger into our family dispute whilst an Asian person would believe in not washing dirty linen in public, even if it is with a train therapist who can help resolve difficult conflicts.
DeleteJust as a gauge of how much my father doesn’t care about me, this Lunar New Year I had well wishes from all over the world from friends and business contacts. I even received a msg from as far as US of A (@LIFT knows who this person is). So when I hear adages like, ‘blood is thicker than water’ I tend to disagree. In my case ‘远亲不如近邻’ would be more applicable. It was a very wise decision for me to cut contact with my father almost one year ago. Given the choice I would repeat it all over again!
ReplyDeleteSimilarly for me, whenever I had a temporary crisis my father would be unable to help either thru lack of resources or lack of f*cks to give. But he was always first in line to hand out unsolicited advice which is why I refuse to listen to anything he has to say. All the people who have helped me have been either friends to even complete strangers. So you already know this but your parents are completely wrong, you cannot count on your family in times of crisis! You probably can only count on yourself.
DeleteLet me give you a good example of how you helped me out when I was stressed - when I first got the call for jury duty, I went into panic/denial mode and you helped me google how to get out of it and we talked about it calmly. You were willing to spend time to help me deal with the situation and it was important for me to have an independent third party evaluate my options - that way I could accept the reality of the situation, ie. it is what it is, I have to do it, no choice, bo pien. But of course, this is just you being very supportive as a friend and willing to spend time helping me with a problematic situation: for DaJie's case, it was really sad that when her colleagues looked at her texts and realized, oh this has nothing to do with work stuff, they just ignored her. Like seriously? I am baffled - she spends most of her week at that office working her butt off, yet she fails to build any meaningful relationships to the point where she texts them for help with a crisis and their response is, "not work related, I don't need to respond." Now I simply refuse to accept that this is a Singaporean thing per se - I will put some responsibility on her for failing to foster and build those relationships to the point where she has some genuine friends at work.
DeleteWhen you are good and ready, be it tomorrow or next year or 5 years from now, you will reach out to them. Then again, perhaps never again. That's all right too. The means of communication works both ways. I would just focus on my own health and mental well-being. I have cut people from my life without guilt nor second thoughts. I may not be able to choose colleagues, but I can certainly choose who I let into my personal life. We can only answer to ourselves and no one else. xo
DeleteHi Di, thanks for your comment. Sorry for the super slow reply, I had been on a bucket list trip through Central Asia. I suppose I could have routed it to Singapore (there are flights from Almaty to KL) but since my family made virtually no effort to ask me to go to Singapore, I didn't bother. Like you said, communication works both ways, I suppose there's a part of me wondering why my sisters have made so little effort to try to reconcile me to my parents and I have two theories. The first is a bit basic really: they have such terrible working conditions and after working something stupid like 90 hours a week, they can barely get enough sleep and hence have no time or energy for family stuff. I actually think that's very plausible given how they work. The other theory is that they know it is a lost cause: given that I am never gonna roll over and say, "you're right, I'm wrong, it's all my fault, let's go back to being a happy family as if there's absolutely no problem at all". My sisters probably know that my parents will rather never speak to me ever again than apologize or even participate in a conversation where we are frank about what kind of parents they are/were. If it is a lost cause, why bother even trying? They are just sparing everyone the disappointment of trying and failing miserably. But without their intervention, I don't see how I can just pick up the phone and say, hello how are you after so long of not speaking to them.
DeleteWow, this is a very personal post from you. It must be painful that your parents have been deliberate obtuse about your adult life and accomplishments and while you're not an only child, it must feel lonely to be the only one "'confronting" them about their bad behaviour while your sisters enable them. I have 3 brothers and while our mother takes little interest in our lives (although not to the extent that your parents do), my brothers call them out on their bad behaviour so they know that pulling these attention seeking stunts won't fly among any of us.
ReplyDeleteThe way I see it, my parents don't pay attention to their kids because they don't love their kids, that's because they don't love each other. It is evident from the way they treat each other that there's no love in that marriage, but people of that generation got married out of a sense of duty and had no concept of romantic love. But if love is absent from the marriage, that it will also be absent from their parenting and thus the way I see it, if they don't wanna take interest in my life, I won't speak to them and if they wanna bitch about me being a bad son, then at least that makes sense - I am going out of my way to be a bad son. The alternative is to be like my eldest sister who takes so much crap from them, like she does everything for them and they treat her like crap. So I am a bad son who doesn't talk to them and they treat me like crap, she is the perfect Asian daughter and guess what? They also treat her like crap - the way I see it, I'm like, no there is wrong. We do not incentivize bad behaviour, we encourage good behaviour and if you wanna behave like that, then you need to be punished. I'm not going to put up with your crap if you wanna behave so badly. But my two older sisters enable their bad behaviour, that doesn't solve or change anything, it just prolongs and extends the status quo.
Delete@LIFT, in my opinion, there are a few factors and flawed assumptions your parents are operating on.
Delete1) Family members automatically build relationships. I remember you mentioning that your father once said that you don’t need to treat family members well. Based on his behavior to his children, it is clear this is what he believes in.
2) Filial piety/respect for elders. Most East Asians believe that respect must automatically be shown to parents/elders and it doesn’t need to be earned. Since your parents are the seniors and parents, they are the top of the hierarchy and don’t need to earn any respect from their children.
And since I doubt there is anyway to change your parents misconceptions I think it will be best to disengage. Every future engagement with your parents will be unequal and they will continue to not care about you but expect you to automatically shower them with concern and respect, because Confucius.
I think it would've been easier on you if your siblings were united in how to approach your parents. But sadly that does not seem to be the case, and it might make you feel like you're playing the bad guy (and nobody likes to play that role!) even when your parents are acting unreasonably.
DeleteI left a comment on your other blog post and i would like to reply there, but it seems like my initial comment and your reply is not published? I'm not sure how to continue the conversation there..
Delete@Choaniki - yes I totally agree with you. They have created a precedent with my eldest sister and expect the two younger siblings to follow suit, but that's simply not the case. My eldest sister had such a ridiculously strict upbringing (ie. "no friends - they are only going to distract you from studying for your exams!") when it got to the point they had artificially created a situation whereby all my sister has is her family and she doesn't have friends to rely on the way you and I have, so if her closest family members are all she is left with, my parents can totally treat her like crap as they know hahahaha we're all you have left, so we don't need to be nice to you. In fact, we can take advantage of the situation and be downright nasty to you, knowing you have nowhere to go. And my sister just enables them - I look at that situation and think, that's totally wrong. Hence I chose to walk away from it as I couldn't fix or change it. As much as I have attacked my parents on their stance on the matter, I also don't approve of the way my sisters have enabled my parents' behaviour - that's the other half of the problem that I have simply no means of changing.
Delete@Kang Ren: all comments here have to be moderated for a simple and practical reason, I receive an insane amount of spam comments here from bots so I have to filter those out and only approve those that have been written by real people. I obviously recognize that you are a human being and thus I will approve your comments and all comments that you have written and have been approved thus far. That's why I did write a long reply to you on the other post when you incorrectly assumed that I had not visited Japan before when I was like, what the hell are you talking about, I have been to Japan before. Not recently, but that was not the point - the question was "have you been to Japan before" and not "have you been to Japan in the last 5 years"; yeah I got angry with you for making that incorrect assumption and wrote you a reply there teaching you how to raise the topic as a question politely rather than jumping to the wrong conclusion and causing offence thus.
As all famous psychologists have known, to change a behavior you need to use the carrot (reinforcement) or the stick (punishment). So to have less of a bad behavior you need to punish or ignore it. And you need to reinforce good behavior in order to increase its occurrence in the future. Since your two sisters are reinforcing your parents bad behaviors it is only going to keep increasing in the future. You are fighting a losing battle. Personally, I have ignored or rejected all the “bad” advice handed out by my father over the years and refuse to reward his bad treatment of me. That is why he picks the low hanging fruit and tries his nonsense on my younger brother and ignores the 2 older ones now.
DeleteI have chosen not to fight this battle by not talking to my family for over 1 year 2 months now. More to the point, I don't want to start a new fight with my sisters by telling them, "hey your behaviour is wrong, I demand you change." No, they are adults and if they wanna make a mistake like that, that's none of my business and not my problem even if I do think they are making a mistake in doing so. I simply want to avoid even more conflict.
DeleteI think there's some issue with our conversation about Japan not being publicly available (or at least i can't see it), so here's my reply:
Delete> Ah, thanks for the correction. My question would have indeed come across better if i phrased it without any assumption. Do you think you would be able to indulge a long time reader talking about your experience with travelling to East Asian countries?
If you are using blogger/blogspot on your laptop, this is what you need to do to read your comment on a popular post with more than 50 comments. Firstly, you need to load comments, then it will load only the first 50 comments. Then there is a link at the bottom of the page that reads "Load more" than the next 50 comments will be loaded. This is a shit system but as a user of a social media platform, I have no say in the matter the same way I have no say when it comes to how Facebook, Instagram, Twitter etc organize their functions available on their apps, I'm just a user. So you're probably not aware that you need to click on 'load more' in order to see your comment there. As for my experience traveling to East Asian countries, no I'm afraid I am simply not an expert who has much to offer given that I am based in the UK, so I am an expert when it comes to traveling around Europe. I have been to places like Taiwan, China, HK, Macau, Vietnam, etc but I would hardly consider my self an expert for that part of the world given that I am an infrequent visitor, compared to say how often I visit various European countries that are on my doorstep.
Delete> Then there is a link at the bottom of the page that reads "Load more" than the next 50 comments will be loaded.
DeleteWow, it's embarrassing that i missed this button.. and i consider myself fairly savvy being a millennial and a tech worker.
> As for my experience traveling to East Asian countries, no I'm afraid I am simply not an expert who has much to offer given that I am based in the UK, so I am an expert when it comes to traveling around Europe.
Ah, but i'm not looking for an expert on East Asia - just your unique brand of storytelling where you share how you use your know-how of the local language to navigate sticky situations and notice things that normal tourists would've have otherwise missed out on. I guess i will have to wait for that day to come then :)
> More to the point, I don't want to start a new fight with my sisters by telling them, "hey your behaviour is wrong, I demand you change."
DeleteWhile i don't have the best relationship with my brothers, i can understand your frustration on this point. The fact that we call out our parents on their bad behaviour is even something that brings us together, so i can only imagine how frustrating it is to be the only person in the room pointing out bad behaviour and to be looked at in turn as if you were crazy
Hi Kang Ren, the 'load more' function isn't obvious and that's simply a bad design on the part of Blogspot. It's just always been like this I'm afraid and little problems like that really ought to be fixed. If I do go to Japan and/or South Korea, then I'll use those experiences to write a blog post. So for example, recently, I went to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan and given how I have always travelled independently and try my absolutely best to ever avoid using a tour guide on my travels. This means two things can happen: firstly, I usually find some really useful info about a certain topic and I would like to share that research with anyone out there who may be exploring that same option for their travels. Secondly, when you travel independently like that, you can have a lot of unique and fun adventures which can turn into very interesting stories here on my blog, but in both cases, I need to actually do that trip before I can write about it. Given that my last trip to East Asia was in 2018 (when I wrote several blog posts inspired by what happened on that trip), I will only write more on East Asia after I have done another trip there. As of yet, I have no plans to travel to East Asia - I have already done my bucket list holiday to Central Asia this year, so I think my next break will be a short haul trip to Europe and then I await to see where work may take me (probably to Africa first). I think Japan and South Korea will be fun to visit, but unless I actually make a trip there, I won't blog about it - it would just be so totally wrong to blog about it without actually going there.
DeleteAs for my relationship with my sisters, I already have a non-existent relationship with my parents where things have broken down to the point where I don't think I'll speak to them ever again before they die and all parties are fine with that as that at least guarantees that there will be no arguments. I don't want my relationship with my sisters to break down to that point as well, even though what we have now is just so shallow it's barely anything at all. By the same token, there are so many aspects of their lives which I don't approve of but I have decided not to speak up as I simply don't think they'll respond to me telling them, "you're doing this wrong, you need to change." That would only cause more aggravation and friction and they respond to that by distancing themselves even further as they don't want to listen to what I have to say even if I know I have a valid point on those difficult issues.