Friday 6 April 2018

Putting degrees, graduates and universities in perspective

Recently I had a question from a reader on one of my older posts about degrees from private universities - this guy has just had such terrible A level results that the only universities that would grant him a place would be these private universities with notoriously low entry standards. I'm not going to speak about the specifics of this guy's circumstances, but rather address the issue of what your options are realistically if you should ever find yourself in such a situation. I have previously been accused of being elitist - an accusation which I think is unfair because there's a huge element of shooting the messenger for the message: it's not my fault that employers prefer Oxford graduates to graduates from private universities, but somehow pointing out that fact makes me elitist? Go figure. I wonder what these delusional folks want: someone to tell them a message like, "hey you messed up your A levels so badly that you ended up in a private university, but don't worry, nobody is going to notice and everyone is going to think you're as brilliant as a scholar who went to Oxford." So, let's deal with some of the harsh realities of the working world and some practical solutions here.
So you have a degree, now what?

Why do students want to go to top universities?

It is notoriously hard to get into a university like Oxford or Cambridge: you need to work your socks off to get straight As at your A levels and even then, you're often competing with the very best students from all over the world who want a place there as well. So if you are brilliant enough to make it through their selection process, that's a stamp of approval that you are indeed something special and worth hiring. It's not even that the courses themselves are that brilliant at such universities - students benefit far more from the fact that they are studying together with equally intelligent and talented students. When you put a group of super intelligent students together, they will be able to motivate each other, challenge each other, compete with each other and bring out the best from each other. The networking opportunities at such universities are also brilliant of course, since many of these students would go on to do great things. But the bottom line is that with a degree from a top university like Oxford, you're always going to find it easy to get a job no matter what you apply for because employers are going to assume that you'e super intelligent, a really fast learner and easy to train.

But in Singapore, everyone needs a degree to get a job...

Now let's look at this assumption and make sense of it. Whilst it is true that many employers would state that you must have a degree to apply for the position, let's look at what actually happens in reality. Do you compete on an equal footing with every other applicant just because you can tick the box "I have a degree, I am a graduate too"? Clearly not. The playing field is not level, far from it. The scholar with an Oxford degree is always going to be picked before the guy from NUS and the graduates with degrees from private universities are going to be at the very back of the queue. Clearly, not all degrees are equal - that's reflected in the fact that the students with the best A level results go to top universities like Oxford or Cambridge on scholarships, then those with good grades end up in local universities like NUS or NTU, then those with terrible grades end up in private universities. Simply being able to tick a box and declare yourself a graduate doesn't actually get you any closer to getting the job if you are competing with applicants with degrees from better universities. There is clearly a blind spot amongst Singaporeans, so why do they think that they are in any way better off with a degree that is just going to send you to very bottom of the pecking order then? And are they really that oblivious?
What kind of graduate are you?

Aiyoh, why are you so elitist, why are you discriminating against SIM graduates? 

Like I said so many times before, don't shoot the messenger for the message. If there's only one job available and there are say 20 applicants, then it is the job of the HR manager or the director responsible for hiring to choose the best possible candidate for the job. If the company hires the wrong person, then the company would be wasting a lot of time, money and resources training the wrong person for the job who eventually would have to leave because s/he can't do the job and the company would have effectively made a huge loss because of that wrong hire because now they have to start that process all over again.The companies therefore tend to be rather risk-averse: sure they could potentially take a chance on a graduate from somewhere like SIM or even hire a non-graduate, but that would be a riskier decision than say going with a more traditional option like an NUS/NTU graduate. Companies are just simply being cautious, they are afraid of making mistakes - I'm not saying that they'll never give a candidate from a private university a job, I'm just saying that you've got an uphill struggle trying to convince them that it is definitely worth their while taking a gamble and giving you a job. So if you have something outstanding on your CV (like if you represented your country at the Olympics) to make them think you're outstanding in spite of your very poor A level results which landed you in a private university.

Put yourself in the shoes of the HR manager

But of course, you're going to argue that not all Oxford graduates are going to be brilliant at their jobs especially if they are poorly prepared for the work environment or quite simply, they may be brilliant at scoring As for exams but completely unsuitable for the job. Let me play this out for you: imagine the HR manager hired an Oxford graduate, the guy turns out to be totally useless and they let him go after a few months. The boss is most likely to say something like, "oh what a shame, he was such a smart guy, an Oxford graduate at that, now we have to replace him." There would be very little blame on the part of the HR manager for choosing the Oxford graduate. But imagine if the same thing happened with a graduate from a private university, the boss would be like, "what on earth were you doing, hiring someone like that? Were you insane? You told me he was special, he had potential, I trusted you and now look at how much time and money we wasted on that guy - we now have to start that process all over again. You're just a HR manager, not some fairy godmother trying to give these people a second chance by leveling the playing field!" Indeed, if a HR manager keeps making such bad decisions,  then even s/he will be fired too - that's why they have no incentive to take any risks with gradates with degrees from private universities. They have bills to pay, families to feed, they want to keep their jobs too.
Are you a safe or a risky hire?

Is there anything at all that I can do to make up for the fact that I went to a private university, so that I will be treated the same as an NUS/NTU graduate in the eyes of the HR manager when applying for a job?

No, is the simple answer. I'm going to give you the honest answer and once again - I stress, don't shoot the messenger. Look, we are dealing with a situation whereby there are many applicants for just one or two positions - HR managers are looking for a reason to say no and reject a candidate, rather than trying to find a reason to give someone a chance to prove themselves. So if the HR manager sees that you've done so badly in your A levels that you ended up in a private university rather than say a respectable one, that can mean a number of things: firstly, you could be plain stupid and that's a simple reason for a HR manager or gatekeeper to reject you. Secondly, you could have been going through a really tough patch during your exams: true story, I have a good friend whose father died during his A levels, so that resulted in some pretty terrible results as he was awfully messed up emotionally at that time. Now as a friend, of course I react with sympathy to this story, but a HR manager would be cynical: is he just trying to come up with a plausible story to prove that he's not plain stupid? Or even if you go as far as to produce a death certificate to prove that you're not making up the story, then the HR manager might be harsh and think, "are you going to fall apart emotionally every time something goes wrong in your life? I've heard of people who have managed to deliver great results regardless of what ever crisis they may have going on - are you going to miss a week at work or mess up royally just because say you get dumped by your girlfriend or if you have a big argument with your mother? Are you emotionally mature enough to deal with such situations and still continue working, can you prevent your private life from affecting your work performance?

Does this sound harsh? Of course it does - but bear in mind HR managers are constantly looking for reasons to say no to otherwise very credible candidates who may have brilliant CVs, so imagine how easy it is to say no to you if they realize you have messed up your A levels. Like if you can't even handle your A level exams, how can you handle the more difficult challenges at work? And even if there's no excuse as to why you did so badly for your A levels, say you just didn't study hard enough and you weren't prepared - do you think they are going to be forgiving when they're looking for excuses to say no to you? Your parents may be forgiving, HR managers and gatekeepers are not. It is all to easy for them to look at a bad exam result as a reflection of some kind of flaw in your character: were you too immature to realize just how important the exams were, or did you lack the discipline to study hard enough? Either way, even if you do have a very valid reason why you did so terribly for your A levels, you're just not going to find the kind of sympathy or even the benefit of the doubt from gatekeepers and HR managers. You can go out of your way to do internships, get work experience, participate in sports, learn a foreign language and travel around the world to make your CV look exciting but bear in mind the gatekeeper is looking for faults on your CV, so short of lying about your A levels results and the circumstances which led to you ending up in a private university, I'm afraid whatever you do will be too little, too late.
What answers do you have for the difficult questions?

The Tsukiji Fish Market auction

One of the top tourist attractions in Tokyo is the Tsukiji fish market where you can witness the auction of the day's best fish - this auction usually starts around 4 am and ends at 10 am.The focus is usually on the extraordinary prices that the very best sashimi grade blue fin tuna can fetch, but in reality that represents only the very top end of the fish that gets sold at Tsukiji market - there is plenty of other less fine, ordinary fish that gets sold daily at the market and this is the kind of fish that may end up in fast food restaurants and supermarkets, to be sold at very modest prices for the ordinary retail consumer looking for a bargain. Even the fish of very poor quality isn't simply thrown away, it is usually processed into products like fish cakes (kamaboko) where the fish is pureed and mixed with various spices and other ingredients before being pressed into fish cakes. Now you may be wondering, Alex this is interesting but what has this got to do with the topic we're discussing? Well, the fact is the way graduates are recruited in the job market isn't really that different from the fish auction. The very best graduates from Oxford and Cambridge are going to snapped up by the best companies and they are willing to pay a lot of money to make sure that these graduates work for them and not their competitors.
What happens lower down the food chain is far more interesting because this affects the vast majority of us who are not exactly Oxford scholars. Not all jobs are attractive and some jobs are mediocre whilst others are awful - make a job attractive (for example, with good pay, great conditions, exciting projects to work on etc) and you will get the very best people applying for it. But if you are offering a job with lousy pay, awful conditions and pretty mundane projects to work on (and add to that, a terrible location to work in), then don't expect to find many applicants at all, never mind good ones. In order to get the job, you just have to be the best candidate on the list of all who applied - so it is not as if those who have bad degrees or no degrees will never be able to get a job, it just means that they will end up getting some of the less attractive jobs that fewer people have applied for. The same way the price of the fish at Tsukiji market is determined by market forces, the kind of job you will end up with is ultimately determined by the kind of demand there will be for your kind of graduate. What I am describing here, is merely a very basic principle of economics: how supply and demand ultimately determines the price in the market. This is really nothing new, in fact it should be pretty obvious to most of you.

However, I took issue with the person who asked the question about what he could do to improve his chances of getting a good job now that he's in SIM. I have a feeling that he's in denial about his situation - to stay with the Japanese fish analogy, that's like a restaurant saying, "hey we're cutting corners by buying a very cheap fish for the sashimi dish today, but don't worry we'll be serving it with a very fine soy sauce so that makes up for the fact that the fish is cheap and not particularly good." But of course, you're not going to fool anyone - the diner would recognize exactly what is going on. Any Japanese food fan would know that you'd rather have really good quality sashimi with a cheap soy sauce from your local supermarket than a really cheap cut of fish served with your finest Japanese artisan soy sauce imported from Osaka. Ultimately, the main course is the raw fish, not the soy sauce. Likewise, an SIM graduate who has some interesting work experience, internships and language skills will be an interesting candidate of course, but the question, "why did you end up in SIM then?" is still going to come up in the interview and it is unlikely to be an easy question to answer. In short, by all means, everyone needs to do whatever they can to make them more attractive as a candidate in the job market, but be realistic about just how much difference you can make with things like internships - you're just buying a more expensive brand of soy sauce to make your main course more attractive. Sure it helps, but not that much.
Am I condemned to taking the jobs that no one else wants to do then? 

Far from it! There are many options for those who are not academically inclined and thus do not shine under the rigid Singaporean education system. Some jobs are directly related to the kind of training you get in university - so for example, a dentist learns everything s/he needs to know about being a dentist whilst studying dentistry at university. However, there are plenty of jobs out there which gladly recruit graduates who know absolutely nothing about the industry because they will give you all the training you need in order to do your job well. Banking is one such industry - whilst there are plenty of finance-related degrees out there, the top banks always recruit graduates from the very best universities like Oxford and Cambridge even if those Oxbridge graduates have degrees in anything from engineering to history to biology. Why? This is because the banks have very good training schemes that will teach all new hires everything they need to know on the job and quite frankly, many of the finance-related degree courses are pretty shitty anyway. They are way too general and are taught by staff who couldn't hack it in the business world. You'd much rather hire someone who's extremely intelligent to train, then to hire someone who is at best mediocre but has taken some finance-related courses at university. That's the situation with the biggest, most prestigious investment banks - but what about the rest of us who are not Oxford or Cambridge graduates then? What do you think our working lives will be like?

Think smaller companies, forget the big names

When people ask me what I do for a living, I usually say 'corporate finance' and if I get a blank look, I would simplify that to 'banking' - that's when I usually get the question, "so which bank do you work for?" You see, most people who don't know much about financial services only have one form of contact with banks - that's their bank where they have a savings account, so they mistakenly imagine that everyone who works in banking will work for a bank like that - this is completely untrue of course. There are plenty of smaller companies within the financial services industry which perform more niche functions and have no contact with ordinary folks looking to save their money (known as 'retail banking') - heck, one of the world's biggest investment banks is Morgan Stanley and they do not do retail banking at all. It suffices to say that there are plenty of smaller companies in the financial services industry who are not prepared to offer very attractive packages for new graduates but still offer that vital first step into the industry for the individual to gain some valuable work experience. I say, if you're an SIM graduate, you should think about starting with a smaller company like that who would be willing to hire you: pay your dues, accept the less attractive conditions, in an unpopular location and then perhaps in a few years, once you have proven yourself in that role, then you can move on to a more senior job.
Gaining relevant work experience is so vital.

Follow your heart, forget the university 

And that's just financial services. Let me give you another example. My friend Tara did a degree in engineering but found that she wasn't able to find a job that really suited her. She was obsessed with fitness and did a 'useful' degree only to please her parents - instead of using public transport in London, she would either jog or cycle her way around town. One day, she stopped at a traffic light and saw someone with a really cool bike and started a conversation - it turns out that guy was on a bike that was quite high-end, offering racing bike technology to ordinary commuters who just want to get around town quickly. She tracked down the small bike shop selling those bikes and found out that they were hiring - with her passion for cycling and fitness, she was a great fit for the team. No degree in the world could have prepared her for the job, there isn't a degree in cycling or bicycles. Sure there are degrees in sports science and business that may have had some relevance, but Tara already knew so much about cycling anyway - she didn't need a university or a degree to teach her what she needed to know, she had that knowledge already anyway because it was her passion. The moral of the story is that you shouldn't put too much faith in universities teaching you anything useful - like Tara, you should follow your heart and pursue your passion because you're going to already have a wealth of useful knowledge in the things you're truly passionate about. Tara is doing very well today in that company as part of their business development team.

Start your own business, be your own boss

Ultimately, if you don't want to be judged for your academic record, the best solution is to be your own boss, then you will never have a boss to ask you stupid questions! So staying with the case study of my friend Tara, if I were to look at one of her bikes, I would be more interested in how good the bike is, if the price is reasonable compared to some of the other similar bikes out there, if it is a worthwhile investment - I wouldn't be asking Tara or her boss what university they went to and what their results are. The latter is simply not relevant to my decision as to whether to choose to buy that fancy bicycle or not. If I am getting a quality product at a good price, who cares whether or not Tara had a good degree? Why should that even matter? Starting your own business is difficult - it is bloody hard work, but along with that comes a certain respect from people who realize just how much of a risk you are taking, shouldering all the responsibility of the business and all you employ - that is the kind of accolade that no degree in the world can buy you. It is one thing to prove that you're intelligent enough to get into a top university like Oxford, but being able to start a small business and run it successfully takes a completely different set of skills and is far more demanding. You want respect? You have to earn it.
Are you motivated enough to start your own business?

There are some things they just can't teach you in university.

Many of my regular readers will know that I work in sales - yes it is within corporate finance but even within financial services, you can come up with the best products and services in the world but without us sales people looking for new business, making sure that we find new clients to spend loads of money with us, the company isn't going to make money. Nobody goes to university to learn how to sell and shockingly enough, there are a few dodgy universities out there who are willing to give you a BA (Hons) in Sales, but I just roll my eyes at the concept of a degree in sales. That's like trying to learn how to swim in a classroom without getting wet rather than in a swimming pool. The kind of sales tactics you require will depend so much on the kind of product you're handling and the kind of customers you're selling to - there is just no way a degree can predict what kind of sales job you will have in the future, so they end up trying to teach you a bit of everything. That means a lot of what you learn will be totally useless and irrelevant to your future job, which makes me think - what's the point of a degree which will be mostly useless then? The best training you can get with sales is actually selling and if you have a good manager, then s/he will guide you along the way and help you climb that learning curve.

So let's talk about sales

Sales isn't the most glamorous job in the world but people are attracted to it for one simple reason: money. You can make an insane amount of money if you are a successful salesperson - if you have a good product and the company is willing to offer you a good commission structure, you could potentially be making millions a year in just commission alone whilst your peers are slaving away for a fixed salary - you could make in a month what they make in a year, easily. I had a colleague Chris who was given the job on the basis of the fact that he was an Oxford graduate - sure he was intelligent but could he sell? No, he couldn't - it takes a certain kind of personality to be good at sales, to be able to engage people and most importantly, close the sale. Oh dear, they had to sack Chris eventually as his sales figures were dismal. We're talking about being extremely good with people and that's a gift you're born with. Experienced sales directors know exactly how to recruit the right kind of people onto their sales team because they can identify individuals with the right traits - by the same token, if someone is just not cut out for sales, then no amount of sales training can give them the right kind of skills to excel at sales. Thus sales directors really don't care if you have a degree or not - as long as you can demonstrate that you have the right kind of personality to be good at sales, they will train you up and give you a chance because you can teach someone product knowledge, but it is so much harder to teach someone how to be charming. 
Become a specialist 

There are loads of people out there who have very specialist skills in a niche area and there simply isn't a degree out there which can help them - so either they have achieved success in their field without a degree or even if they do have a degree, they'll be the first to admit that their degree is totally irrelevant to their work today. I have talked about a lighting engineer I met years ago - sure there are courses out there to do with lighting design, but the best lighting designers are employed by the best companies in the industry and are being paid millions, compared to the very modest salaries earned by the losers who end up teaching these lighting design courses. This is why I am so very skeptical about learning anything from teachers in general - if they were any good at what they do, then they wouldn't end up as teachers. I'm sorry if that sounds particularly evil but it is so true. So this lighting engineer I met is the expert he is today because he has learnt the best tricks of the trade by working alongside the very best experts in the industry, everything was learnt through work experience. Likewise, I have a friend here in London who is a supplier for the growing vegan market here in the UK - there isn't a business or a F&B course out there specifically dealing with the vegan market, yet she spotted a gap in the niche market and went for it, branding herself as a vegan food specialist. Such is the nature of business: you need to go out there and hunt for opportunities - you can't expect a teacher to teach you how to do things like that in a classroom, so stop putting so much faith in your teachers. The real answers are out there, in the real world.

Am I telling you anything new? 

Not really - the kind of advice I have offered you above is what actually applicable to most people really. A tiny percentage of each cohort get snapped up by some prestigious scholarship scheme and they get put in a fast track programme to management once they graduate - as for the rest of us, it is simply making the best of whatever we have. We make the best of an imperfect situation and take our chances with the paths we choose. For most of us, we face a somewhat uncertain future and we have to hope for the best whilst being prepared to deal with the worse. That's reality: now what really pisses me off is the way universities over-promise their students what their degrees can lead to in the working world. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that teachers are equally guilty of misleading their students. Oh yes, I do have an axe to grind with teachers here: here's something a lot of teachers are guilty of. If the teacher said, "if you don't do your homework, I will be angry with you but it probably wouldn't matter in the long run as you won't remember any of this in a few years from now - you certainly wouldn't need it in your working life. In fact, I am wasting your time with this stupid crap, you are better off hanging out with your friends and creating some happy childhood memories after school today than bothering with this stupid homework." That's what an honest teacher would say, but oh no, teachers often have big egos and exaggerate the importance of what they teach. "This is vital for your future, if you don't take this module seriously, it would seriously affect your A level results, you won't get into the course in the university of your choice and it will be the end of your dreams - you will be condemned to a life of doing work you hate for too little money!"
Are teachers misleading their students all the time?

I blame the teachers, the universities and the parents.

Singaporean parents are equally to be blamed for putting so much pressure on their children to excel in school despite the fact that many of them are indeed working adults who have forgotten most of the crap they've learnt at school years ago. Yet they are equally guilty in perpetuating the myth that all you need is a good education and employers will be lining up to give you a good job for life - yeah, that is true if you're like the top 1% who will go to Oxford as a scholar but for the rest of us more normal folks, you can't depend on your academic record to somehow set you up for life. And when I read the marketing bullshit, the badly written lies on the website of crap universities languishing at the very bottom of the league tables, I just roll my eyes and think, "how stupid do you have to be to believe the lies they tell here?" I then think, should the government step in and stop universities like that from doing this kind of advertising, because they are literally tricking stupid people into spending a lot of money on their useless degrees? The government will go as far as to resort to all kinds of measures from plain paper packaging to health campaigns to stop people from smoking - why do they bother to do that? Do we not trust people to be intelligent enough to make up their own minds about smoking - or do we assume that some people are just so very stupid that they should be saved from their own stupidity? If we will do that with the issue of smoking, then why shouldn't the government do the same with universities selling useless degrees?

So whose fault is it anyway? 

In short, a lot of people are at fault for blatantly misleading young students today and there's a good reason why this conspiracy persists: education is big business. A university at the bottom of the league table may be giving their students a degree not worth the paper it is printed on, but the students are still charged a lot of money to get those degrees and the university is employing a lot of people. There is a grey area between teachers who have a noble desire to help their students and those who are blatant snake oil salesmen who are merely interested in making money from stupid students and gullible parents - such is the complexity of life. A teacher who unwittingly exaggerates the importance of his lesson may do so out of insecurity and a lack of self-confidence: if he loses the respect of his students, if his students lose interest in the topic, then he would struggle to teach his lessons - so he resorts to exaggerating how important the topic is just to scare the students into paying attention even if he knows at the back of his head, that none of his students would ever find this topic useful in the future. Is this a noble but flawed teacher who has told a white lie just to get the job done, or a charlatan who is knowingly and deceitfully misleading his students? Throughout the education industry, we have a range of guilt amongst various professionals there - but the result is that you get young students thinking that their future careers really depend on their results. So you have many unrealistic young people with good degrees wondering why they are struggling to adapt to the work environment along with young people who have condemned themselves just because they didn't get the results they had hoped for - both situations are a result of the many lies they have been told.
But students are equally guilty too.

Here's a bitter pill for many students to swallow: you're mostly useless to us employers. What value can you add to any business as a student? Can you drive a bus like a bus driver? No. Can you repair a toilet that is blocked like a plumber? No. Can you repair an iPhone that has been damaged? No. All you can do is study and no one is going to pay you money to do that. In fact, most students have so little skills that their work experience is limited to the most menial tasks that require no training whatsoever. Students need to realize that they desperately need to acquire as many skills as possible that will get them paid work in the job market - some degrees like medicine and engineering can help more than others, whilst degrees in something more academic like mathematics, the pure sciences and especially the arts and social sciences are quite useless when it comes to giving students any kind of useful skills that can help them find a real job. Yet students continue to lie to themselves that they need to keep on studying even if it means going to a private university for a useless degree because that's all they know, all they have done all their lives is be a student and they're just not ready to join the work force yet. So they lie to themselves that studying for this degree is going to be useful, when all it really does is delay their entry into the job market by a few years. Their mentality is often, "I'm spending so much time and effort studying, all this education has got to be meaningful right? Otherwise, what am I studying so hard for?"

Enough of the studying already!

Students, let me spell this out for you: the answer to your problem is not more studying, hell no. If anything, most of you have studied way too much and your brain will conveniently forget most of the useless crap you've studied once you've found a job and you'll realize, oh shit, most of the stuff I did in school is irrelevant and useless. If you're not one of those brilliant scholars who can prove how intelligent you are by scoring a scholarship to Oxford, then the sensible thing to do is to make sure you get a life outside school - yes that means less studying and going out to experience life outside school. Get involved in your local community, pursue your favourite hobbies, go do some volunteer work, get a part time job even if the money is crap, find programmes where you get to travel and spend your school holidays abroad - there are loads of options for you to widen your horizon and try to identify something you're truly passionate about and would like to pursue as a career. Even something as simple as spending more time talking to the people around you is going to help: if you have older friends and older family members, spend time with them to try to learn more about what they do for a living - would you like to follow in their footsteps or would you rather do something quite diferent? With that in mind, if you're clearly not academically inclined to get into a really good university, I would say it would make even more sense to make even more of an effort to find out what else you would like to pursue outside the narrow limits of your studies.
Do you do sports and have an active social life?

In conclusion

My message is simple: there are a small number of people who are extremely lucky to be snapped us as scholars as students, they then have a career path laid out in front of them as they work off the bond of their scholarships. Then there are those who have such rich parents they have little to worry about because their parents will gladly support them if nothing works out. Then there are the rest of us who just have to make the best of what we have and that's the reality we have to deal with - it's hardly an easy challenge but there's so much that we can do to help ourselves as long as we realize that our fate lies in our own hands and we control our own destinies. You are the best person to help yourself. I got so frustrated with one of my readers who left a message on my piece about autism, she is an adult who thinks she may be autistic and she wants to get a diagnosis and I'm like, no even if you do get an diagnosis, then you're just expecting someone like a doctor to fix you - you're not even interested in helping yourself, you want someone to do that job for you. So yeah, life is difficult you get what you're given and you need to be your own best friend by being prepared to help yourself. I hope that helped. Leave a comment below and let me know what you think. Many thanks for reading.

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  1. Studying pure sciences and mathematics is not as useless as you think it is. Perhaps the knowledge itself is inapplicable, but the problem-solving mentality and rigor that is cultivated through the course of study is damn useful. I have yet to regret picking Physics as my course of study as it really helped shaped the way I approach in developing solutions.

    Getting the above off my chest, I just wish to add on to the advice for that SIM student. So, it really is not the end of the world, like LIFT mentioned, there are ways to build up impressive CV despite that SIM degree. It is time to take a hard look at how you can make full use of that SIM course to help bridge yourself to secure internships with firms or get some standalone projects to build your own portfolio.

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    1. Hi Weiping, I bow to your better judgment of course since this is your field and I'm working in another industry altogether.

      See my post below Weiping, I'm currently tasked with selecting interns for my company this summer and I was going to only reject anyone who isn't from a top ten university (we're talking top 10 out of 130 unis in the UK) - but then again, my friend's sister got wind of it and she isn't in a top 10 university, but I've met her socially and I thought, oh she's a thoroughly nice person, okay fine I'll add her to my shortlist.

      But think about my position, I can take on 4, max 5 at a push interns this summer - and I have received like 50 applications already after just putting the word out on social media 3 days ago. I am looking for reasons to say no to people, not reasons to say yes to people. Where are they all going to sit if we take them all on, in the stairwell? In the fire escape? On the pavement outside the office?

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    2. Wouldn't "Positions have been filled" suffice? I am under the impression that it is understandable that there are always limited availabilities to all positions for all organizations. If the position is filled, there is nothing a candidate can do about it, but start looking at other places.

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    3. Oh it's not like I am going into elaborate conversations with people I reject - it's just in my mind, I have to say no to some people and I have to create a strict criteria which allows me to reject 90% of the candidates as that's the ratio of applicants to positions. I have 5 positions to be filled, I have over 50 applications, so I have to be super strict.

      What I am trying to say is, I take my job seriously, I wanna get the right candidates and wanna make sure I don't eliminate someone for the wrong reason. That's why I am so careful. It has nothing to do with letting them down gently or caring about their feelings.

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  2. Love the candid posts as always. I agree with your posts and it really is not about being elitist but rather we should be open to accept the realities of our situations (private universities not being as recognised). Only upon acceptance, we will be willing to do what it takes to address the deficiencies of the situation and with lots of effort (and some luck), make it better!

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    1. Thanks for your comment. The biggest problem is the way students these days place waaaay too much faith on their education, believing that as long as they get a good degree, they will get a great job. Boy they're in for a rude shock when they realize just how much more is demanded of them in the working world.

      Interestingly, my company is running a summer internship programme for the first time and I'm in charge of selecting a very small number of interns from the top universities to intern with us. I don't even look at their results: for me the selection process begins with me looking at which university they come from, if it is a top 10 (we're talking top 10 in a list of 130) university, then fine they make it to the next round then I see, what have you got to offer and what do we need?

      Although having said that, one of my best friends begged me to include his sister in my shortlist even though her university is ranked outside the top 10 for her field, but well, I've met her socially and she seems like a really nice person, so based on that alone, I was willing to break my own rules for her. So sue me. It pays to be charming and nice in life.

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  3. Hi Limpeh, Why does everyone look down on my degree in Singapore even though I graduated from the University of Melbourne? This is rather unsettling since I spent 130k over 2 years for a commerce degree there.

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    1. Hi Desmond, obviously the only way to find out the answer to your question is to speak to the people you interacted with but for what it is worth, allow me to speculate and share some thoughts.

      Firstly, there's the age old perception in Singapore that students should try to get into NUS/NTU or one of the local universities and the only people who end up studying abroad would be those who fail to gain a place locally. That's not true obviously, there are universities out there which are far superior to NUS and NTU of course, like Oxford, Cambridge, Yale, Sorbonne, Harvard, MIT etc - too many to name here. So the moment you show them an Australian degree, these people would automatically make that assumption that you went there because you had awful A level results because many Singaporeans who had awful A level results end up in Aussie universities. I know that's not a fair assumption of course - one cannot treat all Australian universities as if they are a monolithic entity, there is a league table for Australian universities and Melbourne is at the top of most Aussie uni league tables for most years. That I do know - thanks to the power of Google.

      So if you meet someone who is willing to jump to the wrong conclusion without bothering to spend 20 seconds to Google something the way I did, then Desmond, that tells you a lot about what kind of character they have and it's not good news. It is unfortunate that you've met so many people like that in Singapore but if they belong to the category of people who are happy to jump to the wrong conclusion without verifying facts, then I say, you don't need assholes like that in your life.

      Part 2 coming up ...

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    2. Secondly, it could be the degree matter that is the cause of the problems you've encountered - you have a degree in commerce. Good grief. I have already blogged a lot about this here: http://limpehft.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-myth-about-business-degrees.html

      I work in the business world, I have a job in corporate finance and I am driven to make money everyday in the ruthless world of business. I have worked with some extremely determined, successful individuals who are truly outstanding in what they do and they are truly brilliant. Allow me to be blunt here: these truly brilliant people are out there in the business world making millions of dollars - they are NOT in some university teaching undergrads about commerce. This is not a reflection on you my friend but more a general cynicism I have about staff at schools & universities - I tend to see them as losers who can't make it in the real world, hence they have retreated to the relatively safe environment of teaching where they can draw a regular salary and avoid the far more intense competition in the business world. It's not that I would 'look down' on your degree on the basis of your university, but if I ever met you at a job interview, I would ask you what you could have possibly learnt from a bunch of f***ing pathetic losers like that at a university? Like if they were so brilliant, why aren't they in the business world instead of in a teaching position? Again, this reflects my opinion on the teaching staff at your university, I would form my opinion on you based on your answer.

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