Tuesday 16 January 2018

Clarification part 1: Let's talk about corporate finance

Whilst I was in Spain, I received quite a few messages from a few people who hated what I wrote enough to send me hate mail. It was not the kind of comment which politely disagreed with the point of view I presented - no, it was the kind of "shut the fuck up already, eat shit and die" kind of hate mail. I really don't mind getting hate mail - actually, if I am that provocative that someone is willing to take the time to write me such an angry message, I am actually quite flattered. I would hate to be so bland and boring that what I post on my blog is actually just ignored and not read by anyone, so even to get this kind of reaction - well, it doesn't bother me that much. It is just a shame that some people don't realize that they are hardly going to influence me or make me take them seriously if that is the way they communicate and present their opinions - it just makes it too easy for me to be dismissive of them. Please feel free to hate me, go ahead - certainly, you do have my permission to do so but allow me please to clarify a few of the following points that cropped up.

I don't work in HR, but I am a gatekeeper. 

Now I have been accused of working in HR because I had posted a few pieces about looking for a job and I had presented those pieces from the POV of a gatekeeper. It really isn't that hard to understand: if you work for a huge company, like I'm talking about a company that employs thousands of people, then sure they will have a HR department where they will have various members of staff who are employed to handle HR issues. But if you work for a relatively small company, then no the small company isn't going to be able to hire even a HR manager to handle HR issues - that responsibility usually then falls to the managing director or one of the directors who has to do it because there is no one else to handle HR matters. The MD can sometimes delegate some HR matters/tasks to another member of staff if s/he is too busy and this is often the case in small companies like mine. The boss sometimes delegates a number of matters to me and yes, in the past that has included HR matters amongst other things, but let me be clear: I am a salesman, I work in sales, that covers about 90% of the work I do on a daily basis, I sell the company's products. However, if I am asked to handle a HR issue, my job title doesn't change. Besides, it is not like we are so busy hiring people all the time - we're growing but not that aggressively. We hire a few people a year at best, so my skills as a gatekeeper isn't required on a daily basis (in contrast, my skills as a salesman are used everyday), it is simply a hat I may wear when required.

What is it like to work for a small-ish company

So for example, before I went on holiday to Spain, my colleague received a document in Italian and rather than wait for the client to send an English version of the document, he asked me if I could read it for him. I took the document from him and realized that I could translate it for him, so I did that and he thanked me for it. Does that suddenly mean that I am no longer a salesman for my company, but an Italian translator? No, I was simply the salesman who happened to have helped my colleague out with an Italian document that afternoon. Such is the nature of working for a small company - you never know what may come your way and if you can pitch in and help a colleague do something (such as translating a document or handling a recruitment issue), you don't say, "oh that's not in my job description" or "that's not what I do in my department". You simply say, "okay, let me see if I can help", you try your best and you help your team. Believe you me, if I started listing all the different areas where I helped out at work on a daily basis, I wouldn't even know how to condense all of that into a job title - the Hokkien phrase "pao ka liao" (includes everything) does capture the spirit of what I do because I just have to handle every darn thing they throw at me. So whilst I am a salesman, I am also a PKL manager, a pao ka liao kinda guy who happens to handle some HR issues sometimes. So, I hope I have cleared that up.
I don't get paid what a HR manager typically makes. 

Quite simply because I am not a HR manager! Perhaps one day, my company will grow big enough to require a full time HR manager and when that day arrives, then they will gladly hire someone who will do HR full time and that someone will be very experienced in all matters of HR. I would be not qualified to do that job because I work in sales and only have very limited experience in handling some HR matters now and then over the years. And if you want to know how much I get paid, well allow me to explain how people who work in sales get paid. We get a basic - it is like a retainer, that is usually based on a number of factors such as how many hours we put in a week, how experienced we are and how much we manage to negotiate. For younger sales people, that basic can be anything from £14,000 to £20,000 but for more senior people like me who work in financial services, that number is usually several times that. Then there is commission: that's where sales people make the most of their money. So in the case of my company, we do corporate finance, we are matchmakers between the investment and the investors: each deal is minimum six figures, but I handle anything from six to nine figures. Hence when I broker a deal, I get my commission and when it is a multi-million pound deal, well the commissions can be in 5 or 6 figures and typically, all I need is just a few big deals a year and I could be potentially earning well over a million pounds a year. Ouch, think of just how much tax I have to pay on that. Damn.

Sales vs HR

So why would I want to earn the relatively modest salary of a HR manager when a successful salesman could potentially make in just one month what a HR manager makes in a year? Look, I don't mean any disrespect to people who work in HR, they have a role to play and I respect their contributions - but that's simply not what I do for a living. There are four main departments in the world of corporate finance: firstly, there's origination. Those are the people who go out there and hunt for the investment opportunities, convince those companies to work with us to raise finance through the debt market. Then there's structuring: those are the guys who put together the complex investment vehicles for people to invest in, once we have signed the agreement to work with a client. Then there is my department: sales. I am the one who goes around finding the investors for the investment opportunities that the structuring team has prepared. Then the fourth department is the rest: administration, back office, accounting and HR. I happen to work in the sales department and not any of the other departments but as I have explained, once in a while, I am asked to help my colleagues in the other departments because I may have a skill (like my languages) that they require and I just so happen to be there.
Some people prefer to work in sales, others in HR. 

How does one make money in corporate finance? 

If you are curious as to who gets paid the most, well the directors do because they are the bosses who take the lion's share of the profits the company makes. They deserve to get paid the most of course because they are taking all the risks, unlike the employees. Those who work in the structuring department and the admin/accounting/back office/HR departments usually get a set package which varies depending on their experience, but they do not have the chance to double their earnings for the next month by making a huge sale. No, they know exactly how much they are going to earn - unlike the sales department, where the guys can have huge fluctuations in their income from month to month, depending on their sales figures. And of course, there are also the guys in origination who can make some commission as well if they are able to bring new clients for the company, but that is a much longer process to get a company to agree to use us to raise capital for them through debt and they are also limited by the capacity of the structuring team. So there's no point in the origination team bringing 30 new clients to the company if the structuring team can only serve say 15 of them in the next few months. Their job is a lot harder than the sales team: once we have established a network of good clients who use our products, all we do is funnel each new product along to our investors, sit back and collect the commissions which can run into 6 or 7 figures easily. That is why people hate bankers, because they earn so much for doing so little compared to say someone like a nurse or doctor working in an A&E department. So for what it is worth, I am in the right place at the right time and am happy doing what I do because of the potential to make a lot of money with this company - not bad for an autistic, working class kid from Ang Mo Kio who has made so many mistakes in his life!

So how is it working out for me as the salesman?

You know, working in sales is lucrative but the title salesman is not a nice sounding title at all. Some people dress it up as business development but I prefer to call a spade a spade. I sell, that's what I do, hence the term is appropriate. You can have salesmen in shopping malls trying to sell you mobile phone accessories for a few dollars or you can have salesmen in corporate finance brokering deals worth several million dollars - the salesman in corporate finance could probably make in one deal what the mobile phone accessories salesman makes in a year. I like those odds, because I don't like to work more than 30 hours a week. If you follow me on Instagram (if you haven't done so already, what are you waiting for), you will see that I travel a lot and take loads of holidays. It is a pretty good balance I have struck between working 30 hours a week, having loads of holidays and still being able to earn a pretty tidy sum as a salesman. Look, let me compare this to an old friend from Singapore: she was a government scholar who went to Oxford and now has a very senior job in a government agency, on paper she looks brilliant. She certainly is very well paid and very capable, but when I chatted with her recently, she is not happy at all because of the long hours she has to work. She often works 12 hours a day and even when she is at home on the weekend, she is constantly at her laptop trying to play catch up - putting in about 80 hours a week, leaving her little time for her family because even when she does spend time with her kids, well she is just too freaking exhausted to do much with them. She worries she is not being a good enough mother.
When I told her that I was going to Northern Finland in February to see the northern lights, she said that she was extremely jealous and wished that she could go. I smirked and reminded her that she earned more money than me - if she wanted, she could easily fly to Finland in first class and stay in a five star hotel. She replied, "if only - my boss would go crazy if I tried to take more than three days leave, the workload here is insane and I have no idea when my next holiday is. I am lucky if I can get a day off to spend some time with my kids, something as simple as attending a sports day or school play and even then my phone won't stop ringing and the people from the office are still trying to get hold of me all the time." So yeah, this lady did do everything right - she didn't put a foot wrong: she had the perfect A level grades to get a prestigious government scholarship to Oxford and now has a brilliant career in the civil service. Is she successful? Oh most definitely. But is she happy? No she certainly doesn't sound happy at all to me when I spoke to her. Isn't it ironic? I know this lady well - I know she did everything she did to please her parents: they are certainly delighted that their daughter is doing so well in all aspects of her life, but I don't even know if they realize how unhappy she is at the moment. So even those who do somehow do everything right according to the Singaporean formula till do not end up fulfilled or happy - that's why I am very happy to do what I am doing at the moment and surely that should matter.

So that's it from me for now in part 1 of this clarification exercise, in part two, I will deal with some of the more disturbing, darker things that have been said to me by what I suspect are actually quite young readers who are probably teenagers. Yeah, I did warn you that it gets pretty disturbing but hey, if they wanna bring their emotional baggage to me, it will get turned into fodder for my blog. Look I can deal with all kind of crap but when it is coming from teenagers, that's when it becomes decidedly disturbing. What are young people like these days? Stay tuned, akan datang. Thanks for reading.

31 comments:

  1. LOL at all the HR questions. Seriously, team members like us just only get to judge whether the candidate is going to be a fit for the needed resource. The final hiring decision is left to the HR/Boss. There are more than just judging skills and abilities in the hiring process.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Well even within an SME, the boss still does a different job than say someone like me who has a very specific role, I perform a very specific function whilst the boss has to manage the whole company. Thus if the boss wants to hire someone to perform a similar function within the department I am in, the boss will ask me for my opinion - if it is pretty obvious whom the right candidate is, then the boss wouldn't need to ask me. But sometimes, we arrive at a situation whereby we get say 3 candidates and they all look really good, all have some experience, then how do you differentiate between the 3? Thus a second or third opinion (ie. mine) is always helpful. But how many times do I find myself in that situation? Only when we are hiring and it's not like we're hiring everyday - no, it happens a couple of times a year. So I understand the hiring process from that perspective even though I don't work in HR. The boss often delegates - that's what happens in companies, well, unless you get a boss who micromanages everything.

      Delete
  2. Hurry up with part two already!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It's one thing if I get hate mail from adults - you see, all the hate mail is anonymous. But it is curious because when I read something I don't like or disagree with, my first instinct is to close that window or surf to another website. I do not go looking for a fight, by deliberately provoking the person by sending them an email along the lines of 'eat shit and die bitch'. As these hate mails are totally anonymous, I don't even know the gender of the person sending the email - never mind the age, background etc. But sometimes, they leave certain clues, evidence which suggest that they are young, like they think like students or teenagers and are clearly not adults. That's when I find it disturbing - like okay, you wanna pick a fight with an adult old enough to be your dad? Like woah, what kinda issues do you have in your own life young man/lady if that's the only way you can let off steam by behaving like that online? Loads of issues to explore, since I've realized they are so young. Worrying you know. If I had a kid who behaved like that online, man - like, where do I begin?

      Delete
  3. Love it. Can't wait for the next one!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You are not the only one who tells me to eat shit and die you know? Get in line, I have plenty of haters who send me hate mail.

      PS. I don't work in HR. I work in sales. Thank you.

      Delete
    2. Yes. Brokering deals. I'm surprised how you love to inflate and dress-up what you do as corporate finance. I'm also very sure you know how to read a balance sheet, let alone build a financial model.

      I'm not telling you to eat shit and die. I do think you are a self-absorbed bastard who regularly tells yourself you deserve everything and owe it to no one but your sole brilliance. If not for your good ol' boss who picked you up by the side of the road selling movie tickets or whatever the fuck, you would still be doing the same shit. Not some 'corporate finance' job selling for a small boutique no one has heard of.

      Point being, get the fuck off your high horse, stop shitting on SIM (i'm not from there but i think your justification is retarded, you are in no position to shit on them) just because u think going to UCL is that big of a deal. You were doing a job that required no degree and anyone from anywhere could've been doing what you were doing. Please don't rationalize and tell me you missed the 'milking' round because you were on exchange. It was probably a combination of your degree + a shitty gpa that landed you with no other choice.

      "Nono, i knew twenty-five languages, can do twenty-six backflips and am a damn good salesman, that is why I am where I am now." No LIFT, you were just lucky. Stop living in the past.

      You know, I am not entirely disagreeing with you about how students of different calibre are funnelled into certain schools. That is a fact. What i thoroughly dislike is when you try to mask your own insecurities and say dumbshit like "if you fuck up your A levels, you are a retard and deserve to live the rest of your life as a failure in a shit school with nowhere else to go. All odds are against you so don't even try." Yeah sure, if you went to Oxford and worked in IB the moment you popped out of school, I think this would give your words far more weight. But you didn't. You hustled. You did what everyone else in your position would do. You did what a lot of kids in SIM would have to do. So why cock up a story about horses and tortoises when the horse also started out as a tortoise? Narrow-minded and self-absorbed? Damn right I think so.

      Delete
    3. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete

    4. 6. And what is wrong with hustling? Hustling is what you do when the odds are stacked against you and you try your best anyway regardless of how poor your chances of success may be. What is the alternative? Suicide? To give up and settle for a dead end job? The fact is the percentage of people who can go to Oxford and waltz into a job in Goldman Sachs represents like the top 1% or top 2% of each cohort - the other 98-99% of us hustle and the harder the try, the more success we get. I happened to have tried a lot harder than most people who simply didn't believe that they had any chances to triumph against the odds. I don't even chalk it up to my languages or gymnastics or anything like my intelligence, I think my attitude is my biggest asset.


      7. See? You don't even know me. You have an axe to grind against something in your life and you're projecting all these things you're angry with at me and I'm like, woah. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about but you can't even get basic facts about me right and you wanna talk about me? Please go deal with the issues in your life which are bothering you young man/lady.

      7. As for the fact that I'm working for a small company - you see, this is why I know I am speaking to a teenager who has yet to join the working world. Who cares if I am working for a company that employs 20 or 20,000 people? Listen I could be a back office admin stuff at Goldman Sachs and earn peanuts doing admin work there, but ooooh he works for Goldman Sachs. Or I could work for a small company but rake in millions in commission. I would say how much I earn is far more important than the size of the company - but what do you know, you're still a kid who's too young to work.

      8. And no you're not from SIM because you're clearly too young to even start university. You're a kid, you're probably 15 or 16.

      9. Oh and perhaps you realize this already (or not), but you're not going to influence anyone by insulting them and picking a fight. No I am not going 'shut the fuck up' because some mentally unstable teenager tells me to do so anonymously, instead I'm going to offer compassion and love and feel so sorry for you. But no, in case you haven't realized, you're probably as autistic as my parents and you don't realize how you have zero influence over the people you're shouting at. Dude, you have no social skills. You probably have no friends if that's the way you behave - is that why you go round picking fights with random strangers anonymously like that? Damn, that's sad. I can't even begin to imagine how messed up your childhood must have been. Oh dear. That's why I only have compassion for you despite your hate mail. I am really a very kind person you know.

      Delete
    5. Sorry I had to repost because I spotted a typo

      Feel free to hate me by all means, go ahead, but don't make up shit. At least know whom you are hating. Right now, I read the stuff you wrote and I just think - the vast majority of all that is NOT true. It is like you just make up bullshit to insult me. It's like if you were to call me a prostitute, it doesn't automatically make me a prostitute. You can mean it as a term of insult - but it doesn't mean that just because you say it and curse & swear at me that somehow it is true. Like where do I even begin with the amount of inaccurate, untrue crap you have written above? You are not interested in the truth, you're not interested in a civilized conversation - the crap you write above is just a bunch of bullshit rubbish that does tantamount to slander because none of that is true. It's just a bunch of insults and the worrying thing for you is that you don't seem to know the difference. Oh dear - I question the state of your mind for you to come up with something this disturbed.

      1. I have explained, there are different departments in the company. I don't work in the structuring department - I have a lot of respect for my fine colleagues who work there but regardless of how clever they are and how great the products they build, if the sales people like me don't get investors for those products than the company cannot survive. We're raising finance, not trying to win awards by building the best financial models. You seem to be treating this like some kind of exercise at school, rather than understanding how important sales & revenue are to a business, which is why I suspect you're probably about 15 or 16 years old. A smart but rather disturbed young person.

      2. Believe you me, my boss fires people who do not pull their own weight in the company - if you're not contributing, then you're fired. I've been working for him for many years now - he is not my uncle, he's a white Jewish American man for crying out aloud. He owes me nothing. Why should he wanna help me? He's not in the business of offering my charity - he has absolutely no reason to help me! The only reason why I am employed by him is quite simple: I can sell and he needs salesmen who can sell his products. It's a very simple business relationship.

      3. And as for the snide remarks about movie tickets? See? I told you exactly what I had sold in the past in my previous posts but you're not interested in the truth, you're just interested in slander and insults - which is why I think you have the maturity of like a 10 year old. Maybe a 12 year old, that's why I'm handling you with kid gloves and remaining very calm, because I am convinced I'm speaking to a teenager about the same age of my nephew. Rational, mature adults don't talk the way you do.

      4. I had a brilliant GPA by the way, but a geography degree was indeed a very wrong degree for me. The fact is in the West, HR people don't go through your degree with a fine comb - I have tried so hard to explain this but you're trying your best to be difficult and hurl insults instead. In the West, we don't split hairs over GPA like Singaporean employees, things are very different in the West. I made a few poor choices and paid the price for it.

      5. Me? Lucky? I would say I was bloody unlucky, I was terribly suay. I made so many poor decisions, made so many mistakes, had such a difficult childhood. Lucky would be the last thing I would use to describe myself. No, I am just an ordinary guy who triumphed against the odds with a LOT of hard work. You wanna talk about lucky, I know someone who has a ridiculously rich dad and her dad is giving her the money to start her own business. How much do you need dear? £5 million? Daddy will transfer that this afternoon - don't spend it all at once dear. Yeah, people like that are lucky. Not me. I am bloody suay.

      Delete
    6. LIFT, you should really simmer down and read my post carefully. I seemed to have gotten under your skin and said some things which you may have misinterpreted. Don't take it as an insult when I meant it as a matter of fact. You seem to me the one who is insulting me. Hard.

      I'll keep it short. But I don't have a problem with what you do for a living, what school you went to, what degree you did, how you hustled after graduation etc.

      I do have a problem about how you dress up what you do. Like calling yourself a banker, or a corporate financier, or be the 'Mr Capital Markets' kind of guy, and use this as a tool to raise your social standing or make yourself feel better. Two, I am all for hustling. We do what we gotta do. Read my post carefully. What I dislike is when a hustler like yourself, who knows what hustling feels like, to have the bravado to crap on others who have to do the same. It seems you do try very hard to use whatever leverage you could put your hands onto to give your post more credibility. Be it your scholarship or your 'corporate finance' job. For all I know, you could just be doing it to ignite some fury hearts to gain more views to your blog. Don't get too worked up if you believe I am trolling. There might just be some truth to what I have said.

      Delete
    7. No Rong, you don't get to try to tell me to read what you wrote after going out of your way to insult me with remarks about movie tickets - like seriously, are you 12 years old? That is just not the way mature adults talk if they wish to make a point. I have already dismissed you as a somewhat disturbed 15 year old and have told you that I am a kind person who has compassion - let's leave it at that. You don't get to "mean it as a fact" by hurling insults and dropping F-bombs, like seriously, that's why I think you're a kid who has never ever stepped into the business world or had a job - that's just not how people express themselves in the work place. Well you insult people like that if you're trying to pick a fight like a drunken brawl at a bar at 2 in the morning. You have a lot to learn kid. Even if you had a point (not saying you ever did, but hypothetically speaking), you lost all credibility a long time ago in the way you have chosen to express yourself. Tsk tsk.

      I'm currently trying to raise 200m euros for my company's first bond of 2018 - I've got colleagues who say things like, "oh I'll speak to my uncle who's the chairman of this investment bank and I'm sure uncle Thomas would be able to introduce me to the right people there who can take a look at this bond". My uncles in Singapore - don't even get me started, I'm from such a working class background. I'm truly hustling and having to work twice as hard to find the money whilst the people who are truly privileged are raising more money than me whilst putting in far less effort - my boss could easily fire me and hire a bunch of posh guys with double-barreled surnames but he realizes that I have more to give, that's why I am still here doing what I do because I have proven myself the hard way. If you seriously think people will give someone like me a job out of sympathy (like whaaaat?), you're in cloud cuckoo land. People like me have to hustle and fight every step of the way and prove our worth everyday at work, I have to sell and sell and make sure I always raise enough money for my company.

      And don't give me the crap about me calling myself a banker or corporate financier or Mr Capital Markets - by my own admission, I have always called a spade a spade: I am a salesman. I am in sales. That's what I do. I sell asset backed securities, that's what we do, the company is in corporate finance. I don't know why you're putting words in my mouth - you're just too lazy to read and it's not my fault that you have a serious reading comprehension failure here. That's your problem not mine.

      If you're not a troll, you're just an autistic person who lacks basic social skills and has no idea how to influence people. And for that, I offer you my sympathy. I am a kind person, after all.

      Delete
  4. Okay, Mr 200 million Euros. I get it. We get it. You don't have to make my point for me. I have no time to dig through your old posts. But you have referred to yourself as a banker in your posts. You said sold event tickets (which to me is no different than selling movie tickets). You get my drift. You may have a problem with how I have expressed myself and how motherfucking vulgar I am. But with that glaring napoleon complex you have, I can't say you are any better.

    A 15 year old kid. Autistic. No social skills. No friends. Picking a fight. It takes one to know one, LIFT.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You see, there you go again you autistic teenager. You called me Mr 200 m Euros. That's your words not mine. If you have no time to read my posts, then do yourself a favour. Go to Youtube and watch cute videos of dogs and cats instead - clearly you don't have the capacity to read and comprehend. You're unlikely to have the kind of comprehension failure whilst watching a funny Youtube video. I said I sold conference tickets which were several thousand pounds each and if you choose to equate that to selling movie tickets - then that's a reflection on that unique combination of stupidity and immaturity that makes you the autistic friendless fool you are.

      And like I said from the start, I really don't care if you hate me. In fact I love the fact that you hate me so much you're bringing on the insults again.

      You see? You think that my insulting me and asking me to shut the fuck up, I will do as you say because you're convinced somehow I want you to like me? But what if I turned that around and instead do the complete opposite and invite you please to go ahead and hate me?

      KA-BOOM. That's your mind blowing.

      PS. Please, hate me. Hate me more than anyone else you know. Thank you.

      Delete
    2. You wanna know why I am convinced you're a 15 year old kid?

      You seem obsessed with GPA, results, going to Oxford (or your life is over cos your first job isn't going to be with a big investment bank) - but the fact is, even if one went to Oxford and got great results there, it still takes so many more skills to make that transition from being a student to being a functioning member of a team in a company.

      You don't seem to know that - or at least you're so focused on the student part of the equation rather than what happens after one graduates that I am convinced that you're clearly still a student who hasn't worked a day in your life before. It's not your poor manners or your lack of maturity that gave your age away, but the part of the equation you are so focused on.

      I've met people from Oxford who have floundered in the working world because they have not successful made that transition well due to a lack of soft skills. I've also met people who don't have a degree but have somehow managed to hustle their way to the top. It's where you finish that matters, not where you went to school. That's only the first part of an extremely long process.

      There are so many other factors that matter - for example, if you come from an influential family and have good connections, that totally trumps any degree from any top university. Bet you never even considered that eh?

      Come back to me once you've entered the working world, perhaps we can have a civilized conversation then - in like oooh, 8-10 years or so?

      Delete
    3. Ok, dude. You are 40. Calm down before you get a heart attack.

      Did I strike the wrong chord? Did I say something which uncovered a verity about yourself? If I did not, and deep down you can look yourself in the mirror with zero doubt; I don't see why you need to get so worked up or defensive. For if I were in your shoes, I would think this young 15 year old is all but a mere troll who is autistic. Go take a shot and chill the fuck out.

      Delete
    4. I'm losing track of where you stand for this is a vast contradiction to what you have said about private unis and how one's degree is worth less than the paper it is printed on. I am not obsessed with Oxford, GPA or results. You do however seem very obsessed with where one does his degree and how far of an altitude he/she would go based on what school he/she went to. Look, i don't want to play pong with you if you can't even make up your mind on which side of the court you stand.

      I'll just end off with summarizing the original point I had for you in the beginning. Practice what you preach. Don't spout bullshit to make yourself sound better. And don't look down on others when you were in a similar position before. Have a good day.

      Delete
    5. Oh you wanna talk about ego? You come in here, you're totally abusive and hurling insults, you behave like a total cunt trying to pick a fight and then you expect me to listen to you even after I made it clear that the best case scenario is that you're a mentally unstable, disturbed teenager who at the age of 15, doesn't know any better. And the worst case scenario is that you're a grown adult and this is a reflection of the way you interact with others in real life and if that is the case, dude, there's no hope for you. I don't know how I can explain this any clearer: I think you're a cunt, I think you're seriously autistic, I think you're insane, I think you must have been repeatedly raped by your father or uncle when you were a child that's why you're so incredibly messed up. And when I think someone is insane or simply a cunt, well, I don't take their opinion seriously, I don't listen to them. You wanna win people over and get them to listen to your opinion, you don't behave like a cunt, you don't make them think that you're totally insane. I don't even know where to start with you because you're clearly very, very messed up and you think what you're doing is somehow justified or clever - well, I just think that you're reeling from the trauma of rape or something equally messed up, that's why you're such a cunt today. See? I can be abusive too. Now do you wanna listen to something I have to say after I have been so nasty to you? Probably not. Yet you think I wanna listen to your crap after you have hurled insults at me?

      How can I make this any more clear? Do you listen to people you love and respect, or people your despise and hate? I seriously don't give a damn if you hate me, your opinion doesn't matter to me so I am really not interested in taking any advice from you. Like you seriously think I give a damn about your opinion of me or me trying to get you to like me? Like I said, I get plenty of hate mail, almost on a daily basis. Get in line if you want to hate me. See if I care.

      What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Please do seek counselling to cope with your PTSD rather than pick fights online.

      Delete
    6. Possibly a frustrated 40 year old in the middle of a soul crushing mid career switch, with a long history of being ostracised at school, and work.
      No community ties. Hostile, hypersensitive and suspicious of others. Easily threatened, always defensive. Single, no wife, maybe never had a girlfriend. A forty year old virgin?

      Does this describe u, Rong? I have actually met some folks like this. U sound like them. Get help man.

      Delete
    7. Well Chen my friend, I am somewhat confused by Rong - at first he does come across as a 15 year old autistic teenager who is thoroughly naive about the real world and obsessed with certain aspects of the education process, that's why I thought, okay, high functioning autistic teenager with no social skills. But if he is a 40 year old virgin who comes across as a 15 year old autistic teenager with no social skills and has a complete inability to present his opinions in a way that makes others listen, then Chen, your diagnosis is probably correct.

      With 15 year olds, I say there's hope - kids grow up and learn. But if he is like 40 as you said Chen, then good grief, there's no hope left as he's too old to change. Can you imagine what he must be like in real life? Eeeeeks. Aiyoh.

      Delete
  5. I looked up "banker", and this is my conclusion: a banker is one who works in a bank in a junior, middle, or senior executive position. Hence, not the lowly bank teller. A banker is involved in the transactions of the bank, but we are not talking about your day-to-day deposits and withdrawals. We are talking about the Gordon Gecko type of transactions (if I remember the name correctly). A "banker" these days include investment executives. Hence, it isn't far-fetched if Alex calls himself a banker. He sells investment products for a corporate finance company. Is he a salesperson? Even a bank teller is expected to sell. So, yes, you can be a banker, or a corporate finance officer, or whatever you want to call yourself, and be expected to sell. It is the nature of the beast in most industries. SALES! Even lawyers are expected to sell --- billable hours!
    As for Alex inflating his self-importance, well, if you think someone is full of himself, why read his blog?
    Also, selling movie tickets is a far cry from selling events. You don't need sales skills to sell movie tickets. In fact, you don't need to sell movie tickets. People will show up at the ticket counter. No sales pitch required.
    If Alex wants to toot his own horn, you don't have to like it. You don't like what a blogger likes, scurry away. Why pick a fight? One must be very idle if one has nothing else to do than to find a blogger and pick a fight.
    Who cares what Alex says about degrees and the lady in the moon? Why get so worked up?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I don't even want to start dealing with whatever points Rong wants to make, the fact is he doesn't understand a simple choice. If you get so provoked that you wanna scold a blogger, then fine - leave an angry comment full of insults, but that means you are choosing to let off steam. You scream insults, drop F-bombs and your comment is probably going to be deleted but otherwise you've managed to let off some steam. But if you want the blogger to even begin to take your seriously and listen to what you have to say, then you behave like a mature, civilized adult and speak in a reasonable manner. You cannot go to someone's blog, act like a total asshole and then claim to make a valid point - the fact is, even if he did have a valid point, he has lost any credibility the moment he acted so disgracefully by using such offensive language and going out of his way to hurl insults.

      Like I said, he has the mental age and the social skills of an autistic 15 year old. Chances are, he is probably a grown man in his 20s or 30s - but if he comes across as a 15 year old autistic teenager, then good grief: can you imagine what he must be like in real life? People probably run a mile away with that's how he communicates his ideas.

      Delete
  6. Just my two cents - Rong, if you believe what university one goes to doesn't matter at all (or doesn't matter as much as Limpeh thinks it does), then why are there so many university ranking systems? Times Higher Education, QS world rankings, etc. Do you see any of our ministers graduating from SIM? Where does SAF send its SAFOS scholars to, or where does MFA Academy sponsor its foreign service officers to study at? The likes of University of Tokyo. Why do parents bother forking out thousands to send their kids to GEP prep classes and premium branded enrichment centres with teachers who are NUS/NTU Honours graduates armed with NIE PGDEs?

    I'm sorry, society -is- obsessed with Oxford/Cambridge/Harvard/Stanford, etc, GPA and results. I suppose if you have a billionaire dad like Peter Lim, then probably you can forget about elite higher education. But for the rest of the population aspiring to a nice cushy white-collar lifestyle though, whether you are from the cream of the crop, or from the likes of SIM/SIT/Kaplan/Bla bla bla private Us does matter especially if you want to enter Civil Service as a Division 1 officer.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi there Ken. Allow me to respond to your points please.

      I am thoroughly confused by Rong - firstly, he states that it is wrong of me to put down students who ended up SIM, but if that's his point, then he goes out of his way to give me so much grief that a) I was an Oxford-reject that ended up in UCL (which is way superior to NUS, it wasn't like I landed up in SIM) and b) my first job wasn't glamorous and I had to hustle from the bottom like so many people. So first he attacks me for being 'elitist', by looking down on SIM students - then he goes full elitist on me by looking down on me, ooooh I am but a UCL graduate working in corporate finance, I'm not worthy etc. What gives? Thoroughly confusing message as he contradicts himself - is he for or against elitism?

      But for some reason, he has decided he hates me and in his haste to hurl insults at me, I think he has totally forgotten what his original message/point may have been - hence the contradiction.

      Delete
  7. @Rong: i don't see what's ur objective here. Even if limpeh really is nasty evil arrogant bastard.. and none of us have ever met him offline...
    He can't do anything that compromises your life in any way whatsoever. If you are frustrated with life, its ok man, life isn't easy. No point writing hate mail. Find a good friend to talk to.

    And whilst u are here Why not try to have a more constructive conversation?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Actually I have actually met a number of my readers in Singapore and on their visits to Europe in the past. For example, Choaniki is someone who started as a reader, then we met a couple of times after that (when he was in London, whilst I was in S'pore). And Di Talasi and I have not met as she's in Canada - but we follow each other on social media and I know all about her, she knows all about me etc; it's not like we're strangers who interact anonymously. Choaniki and Di are totally real friends to me and they're great people.

      And Chen - I *AM* a nasty, evil, arrogant bastard. LOL. Here's the thing. Rong somehow thinks that I am desperate to be liked, so if he comes here and scolds me, I'd do whatever he says to please him - erm, doesn't work like that mate. I am happy to live with the fact that people do hate me, life isn't a popularity contest, I am happy as long as the people in life who matter to me, the people whom I love and respect, the people I care about, as long as I am cool with them, that's all that matters. As for the anonymous internet trolls - I have no time to please them.

      My regular readers don't always agree with what I say, but they are always very engaging and constructive in the way we interact, that leads to some very interesting exchanges here. Esp with you Chen, we've chatted loads here and you're a great guy.

      Delete
  8. Love your blog, Alex! To me its a blog about you (& people you know) pursuing higher performance & life expanding experiences. I don't fancy most blogs about Singaporean issues, because they focus too much on whats "right or wrong" rather than what a singaporean citizen can do to better his or her lot in life. They also tend to be painfully myopic, lacking that globalist world view. I also enjoy the dialog with, shall we say your Pen Pals Di & Choaniki.
    Glad to have chanced upon your blog, I do try to be as constructive as possible - life's better that way isn't it?

    ReplyDelete
  9. Oh i must bring up one more point. Rong here illustrates a common notion amongst the masses, that evil bastards make alot of money by being "good at talking" and enjoying undeserved luck. As far as i know, rich evil bastards may manipulate and screw lots of people, but they also conscientously add value to many many more people who help keep them rich and at the top. I doubt u can live long and prosper just by screwing people.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hmmmm. So many points packed into that little paragraph. Firstly, I don't know where that notion of evil bastards making a lot of money came from - but 'undeserved luck'? That almost points to an expectation to be a 'god' like entity, to make sure things are fair: but come on, take a look around you in real life. Is life fair? Of course not. I don't expect life to be fair, that's why I am rarely disappointed - but if you do, good grief.

      Delete
    2. Just a feeling i get from people like your haters, indeed many online trolls - they are basically complaining how a morally questionable person got lucky and got rich... clearly upright individuals like themselves deserve better? Rong may not have explicitly said this, and perhaps i'm reading too much into it. Certainly when you listen to nonsensical "coffeeshop conversations" in the heartlands, its a common theme.
      And no, life isn't fair - we just have to get on with it! My main point is that we all get paid for working hard to provide valued (i'm not saying environmentally friendly or socially responsible or whatever) products and services to others.. merely trickery and luck aren't enough, so Rong's attempt to diss the achievements of others is at worst loonacy, at best sour grapes.

      Delete