Thursday 28 December 2017

Bella's suggestion and my question for you

Hi guys, I am going to talk about a topic that has been on my mind for a while and it isn't an easy topic. I think that a lot of people would condemn and hate me for even daring to talk about it, but given that I have just preached in my last post that ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away - well, let's start with the photo that brought this issue home to me. On Christmas eve, my sister shared a photo with me on Facebook that showed a family gathering and she noted that my parents and one of our aunts are the last surviving members of that generation. The others have died (well one is one life support, clinging on to life after a stroke), including some of my parents' younger siblings. Actually to be fair, we are not at all in touch with my dad's family at all since they live in Malaysia and speak Hakka (like they speak Mandarin too - but they hate us for not being able to speak Hakka), whilst my sisters have always made a genuine effort to keep in touch with the cousins from my mother's side. But the photo is clear: my parents have managed to outlive a lot of their peers.
Maybe there is another way.

I suppose on one hand you can say oh great your parents are blessed with longevity, but on the other hand, I suppose I have to deal with the inevitable one day, when they do pass on. Whilst I have a great relationship with both my wonderful sisters, I am not going to pretend that I have any form of relationship with my parents. When I Skype my sister who lives at home with my parents, I can see my father walk right past the screen - no, he's not at all interested in talking to his son and would rather sit down to watch some crap on TV. My mother dutifully sits down and listens to me speak to my sister, but I don't even know how to begin to build a relationship with her because she is so autistic. Where do I begin with my mother - she is totally unable to see things from another person's point of view but wait it gets worse: even when she gets things wrong, she refuses to let others correct her. That's what makes any kind of conversation even on normal issues frustrating because she is so incredibly stupid (I am terribly sorry, there's no other word to describe her) that she cannot figure out basic concepts but she absolutely refuses to admit that she is wrong because in her culture, that would mean losing face. So she would rather insist that everyone else is wrong whilst she is right - yeah, crazy but true.

Allow me to demonstrate how impossible it gets: a few weeks ago, I mentioned to my sister that I am dealing with clients in Los Angeles. My sister asked me what the time difference was between London and LA to which I replied, currently it is 8 hours. My sister than noted that the time difference between London and Singapore is also 8 hours (which is correct), but of course Singapore is 8 hours ahead of London whilst LA is 8 hours behind London, making LA 16 hours behind Singapore. This is pretty elementary maths which I think most 6 year olds can figure out really, unfortunately, is way too difficult for my mother. She then said, "oh that means Singapore and LA are in the same time zone lah!" I nearly burst out laughing - but the next part was as tragic as it was funny: my sister then tried explaining why my mother is wrong and my mother just steadfastly refused to admit she was wrong as she went into auto-pilot: when someone tells you that you're in the wrong, deny it to your dying breath or you will lose face. I was like, I don't expect you to be an expect with time zones or anything, but I do expect you to behave like a reasonable adult when someone tells you that Singapore is not in the same time zone as Los Angeles. Now do you begin to understand the double whammy I have to deal with: her stupidity + her stubbornness? My sister dealt with it the same way she always does, she decided to leave it and give my mother her 'face' - whereas I just held my head in my hands and thought, "holy crap, like, is she for real?"
You see, at work, I spend my days with people who are extremely talented and intelligent - to the point where I can feel somewhat intimidated in their presence. My spouse has a PhD and several patents to his name and when I rarely ever cross paths with anyone who isn't of that kind of calibre.  The people whom I work with and choose to socialize with tend to be from the London well-educated, metropolitan elite. In short, I have never had to deal with anyone like my parents before (well not since my NS days): it has become just too unfamiliar. If my parents were truly senile, like if they were indeed suffering from senile dementia, then that would make things a lot easier for me as I would totally lower my expectations of any kind of social interaction I may have with them. However, they to all intents and purposes not senile - they're just cranky and old. And here's the most difficult part: my parents will always insist that they are right even when they are wrong because they simply refuse to consider another person's point of view - such as insisting that Singapore is in the same time zone as Los Angeles The way my sisters deal with it is just to shrug their shoulders, smile and let it pass, knowing that my parents simply 乱讲话 all the time - they are so used to my parents spouting utter and total bullshit everyday that they don't even bat an eyelid. As long as it isn't libelous, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, they just smile and let it go. Whereas since I have not lived with my parents for over 20 years, I still feel the need to correct them and teach them every time they spout bullshit. I guess I have a lot to learn from my sisters - my parents just aren't educated at all and are both severely autistic, so it is quite unreasonable of me to expect them to speak like normal people.

I suppose I can't get over the fact that my parents took virtually no interest in me when I was growing up and in hindsight, I can't really blame them. In their generation, there was no consideration whether or not you were fit to be a parent or not - you were simply expected to get married and reproduce until you get a son (because according to their fucked up Asian culture, girls are worthless). I don't think my mother ever questioned her role as a wife, to bear a son - but once she had the child there was a sense of, okay now what? I have to be a mother? Gee, where do I even begin? My father was equally hopeless as a parent and I was virtually brought up by my two older sisters. Why do people bother having children if they don't want to be a part of their children's lives then? Heck - I have no intention of having children and at my age, I neither have the financial burden of having to bring up children nor do I have to bother making the sacrifices of a parent. Perhaps my parents would have been happier as a couple who didn't bother having children at all, then they could have had a lot more time and money to dedicate to themselves and their hobbies. A lot of people would now attack me saying, "would you rather you weren't born at all you ungrateful swine?" To which I would reply, "if that would have meant giving my parents a happier and more fulfilling life, then yes - because clearly having me didn't bring them any joy at all. In fact, they totally lost interest in me around the time I turned 13 - yes that's how little joy I brought to their lives."
Would you enjoy being a parent?

Let me give you an analogy: baby chicks are sometimes sold in market places (well hardly ever in Singapore but it happens in other countries) as pets because they are small, tame, cute and fluffy. You can easily keep it in a small box with some hay and it makes a cute pet - well, for a few weeks at least. By the time they are ten weeks old, they would have grown into a chicken and have lost a lot of the cute factor - you can no longer cuddle the baby chick in your hands and the chicken will start making a lot of mess. Most chicken pets don't survive much beyond like 15 - 20 weeks before they get slaughtered and cooked (or released into the wild if they are lucky), because they have lost that cute factor. I'm afraid I've seen my parents go through that same process with my nephew - they fussed over him so much when he was a child, but now that he's a teenager (he's going to be 15 next year) they just don't know how to relate to him and the problems have arisen mostly because they have no desire to treat him like an adult - all they want is a cute and helpless baby chick they can cuddle in their hands. You see, my dad claims to have done so much for my nephew, but when I talked about something really important that happened to my nephew this year - my dad had absolutely no clue what I was talking about. My dad would never admit it but he has stopped taking much interest in my nephew (he just focuses on the memories from when my nephew was like 5). I am sorely disappointed that their idea of being grandparents is so restricted to that of being grandparents to a young child when surely being grandparents to a teenager or even adults can be an even more complex and rewarding experience. It does require more advanced social skills to handle a relationship with an adult like that and well, with my severely autistic parents, unfortunately those skills are simply absent.
Perhaps it is because continuing to take an interest in my nephew's life would involve them being taken out of their comfort zone to learn about the modern world like Instagram and coding and they just don't want to know that. They are retired primary school teachers and whilst that may seem like an ideal job for autistic adults, it does limit what they needed to know about the world around them and anything beyond the PSLE syllabus is just way too complex for them to comprehend I'm afraid. I know what you're going to say, I somehow got lucky with the genetic lottery and got a superior brain, thus I should be gracious, right? I know, there is a point to that, if I may be blunt about it. But is it too much to ask for the interaction to be two-way? Most of my conversations with my parents follow a certain pattern which always leads no where. I try tell them something important, they ignore me and talk about something else (usually some mundane shit that isn't interesting) and I think, fine, is this going anywhere? Then I try to raise the topic I wanted to address one more time and they react my changing the topic to something else even more mundane: by which point, I get the message. Either they plain don't want to talk about issues that matter to me, or (and I suspect the latter is more likely the case), they are so severely autistic that they don't even listen to a word of anything anyone ever says to them and thus are incapable of even the most basic human interactions that the rest of us normal people take for granted.

The strange combination of their severe autism and relatively low IQ does account for their ideas of parenting - when the child is in primary school, they feel in total control because they can scrutinize every aspect of the child's school work. That empowers them: they are in a position to help and that makes them feel secure - after all, having spent so many decades as primary school teachers, it is all very familiar for them. But the moment the child goes into secondary school, oh dear - that marks the moment when the cute little chick starts to become an adult chicken, they lose interest because we start doing things they don't understand. So even if it is very possible that my parents could pass away in the next few years, what should I do then? I'm afraid whatever I do now is just too late: we never ever had a relationship in the first place when I was growing up. Even as a highly intelligent adult, I cannot fix what went desperately wrong all those years ago - I cannot somehow change the past.  I just look back at how I was raised, what I went through and can only say, "woah, holy shit - how did I end up where I am today and not a drug addict, prostitute or in jail?" But that's not even a conversation I can have with them as they don't know to have conversations. They know how to tell me what they think, but they simply are unable to perform this simple task of listening to another person. I could get frustrated, but I just consider it a disability the same way a blind person cannot see or a deaf person cannot hear. I don't dare to set unrealistic targets, only to be disappointed in due course. In the meantime, I can go see my parents in Singapore whenever I want, but all I get is frustration each time they refuse to take any interest in my life or when I try to tell them something interesting about my work, they just don't want to listen. Oh I wish it was a more straightforward, "you're gay, you're immoral, I hate gays" situation - but they're actually quite okay with my sexuality you know so it is not even that.
Life often leaves me feeling conflicted.

My friend Bella who has a 6 year old daughter has put this to me, "I know this may seem like a strange suggestion but hear me out: why not treat your parents like the children you never had? Look I have built a relationship with my 6 year old daughter - she doesn't talk like an adult, she says a lot of stupid things all the time but you know what? It's okay, she's only 6 and I let it go. You can't talk to a young child the same way you speak to an adult and your expectations are very different, it is not like the conversations are dry and boring - my daughter and I have the most fascinating conversations. But I guess having brought her up, I have discovered the knack of how to reach her at just the right wavelength, what kind of language to use and what topics to avoid. I am thinking that you probably need a very similar kind of approach with your parents - you need to speak to them as if they are 6 year old children. You know, my daughter gets many things wrong, makes a lot of wrong assumptions but I don't put her down and tell her to shut up when she is wrong, I just use it as an opportunity to engage her and find out more about what she is thinking. So don't get too upset if your parents talk rubbish or bullshit with you, you should hear the amount of crap my daughter come up with sometimes - I just take it all in the right spirit and hope that she will become wiser with age. I care about my daughter, it's not an exam whereby she has to get all the answers right with me. I love my daughter, she is a part of who I am today."

"I see loads of similarities between your parents and my daughter and I am telling you that you can build up a meaningful relationship with a 6 year old child - I am extremely close to my daughter and whilst you cannot compare it to the kind of relationship I have with my adult peers, it is different but no less genuine and warm. I manage my expectations - there are some problems I have at work which I cannot share with my daughter as she will not be able to help or even understand, but there are other special times that we share which make us so close as mother and daughter. Obviously, you don't have children of your own so you don't understand what it is like to build up a meaningful relationship with someone like a 6 year old - but I am telling you, it can be done. I know your sister has a much better relationship with your parents and she is also a mother - now I think that's no coincidence at all, she probably won't admit to treating her parents like her children, but I can imagine she would apply a lot of the same principles in order to facilitate the relationship. I think you're setting yourself up for failure if you expect your parents to somehow get rid of their autism and develop the kind of social skills in order to offer you the kind of relationship you may have with one of those super intelligent people you work with - that's unrealistic. What I am saying is that there is something on offer: it may not be what you want but I don't want you to think that there's nothing you can get out of your parents even now. There is something but are you willing to be the parent instead of the child? Are you prepared to do what your sister has done?"
What kind of relationship can one build with a 6 year old child?

I thought that Bella certainly has a point - but I point out to her that at least in her case, her daughter is willing to be a part of that relationship and I'm not sure I can somehow reinvent my relationship with my parents on my own terms. And if I may be honest, I don't really understand what she meant by the kind of relationship she has with her 6 year old daughter as I have never ever been close to a child like that - yes I have a nephew, but we are 8 time zones apart and I can't even remember having spent much time with him when he was younger. I have no idea how the hell to be a parent to a child, never mind to my own parents. When I pointed this out to Bella, she smirked and said, "you're not stupid, you're a smart guy, if you can figure a language like Hindi out, then you can learn how to be a parent. Sounds like you're making an excuse. But if you really don't want bother then so be it - I don't have a relationship with my mother. You see, when I was a teenager, she was more interested in sleeping around and having loads of affairs than actually being my mother - it's not even contingent on whether I forgive her or not. Regardless,  I could have had a relationship with my mother but I chose not to. When she died I went to her funeral but I wasn't like crying or sad - I had let go of her a long time ago. Likewise, if you are just not close to your parents, then there are probably good reasons why and their imminent death wouldn't really change anything. My mother betrayed me in the most horrible way, at least your parents are just autistic."

I'm not quite sure where that leaves us - that's why I want to open this up to my readers especially those who have brought up children to help explain to me what Bella meant by having the kind of relationship she has with her 6 year old daughter. After all, unless the child is some kind of super prodigy like Tanmay Bakshi the 13 year old who was hired by Google or Sunisa Lee, the 14 year old American gymnast who has been taking Instagram by storm with her insane amount of difficulty in her uneven bars routine - well, usually I give children and even teenagers a wide berth, I steer well clear of them. I don't know how to relate to children, thus by that token, I am only able to relate to children who are effectively adults, who have grown up ahead of their time. My partner has a niece whom I barely talked to at Christmas gatherings because well, she was a child - what the hell do I say to a child? Then suddenly one year I turned up at Christmas and oh, she's just made it into Cambridge medical school and suddenly, we had loads to talk about. I'm just grateful that she didn't say, "yeah remember how you effectively ignored me every year at Christmas and suddenly you wanna talk just because I am at Cambridge?  Suddenly my opinions are interesting to you? I'm still the same person!"
Finally, if I may confess a fear: I fear that most people are going to think that I am a horrible monster when my parents finally pass away because I can tell you that I'm not going to react the same way most people react by like crying or being sad. I wouldn't know what to say when people condole me - look, my father cannot even be asked to talk to me on Skype and it is a slap in the face when he chooses to watch trashy Chinese TV instead of talk to me, then it feel pretty pointless to try to even bother doing anything if that's the way he feels. Heck, I have some friends in the gym whom I see occasionally and I'm so much closer to them than my own parents, because at least they take the time and effort to talk to me and take interest in what is going on in my life. My readers and my friends know me so much better than my parents, who seem to go out of their way to demonstrate that they couldn't give a shit what is going on in my life. Thus it is not that I'm scared that I won't cry or feel sad when they die, I'm just scared that nobody will understand how difficult they have been all these years and they will choose to blame me for being a monster who has turned his back on my parents - when really, it is my parents who have turned their back on me a long time ago. I think it is pretty awful of Asian society to always give parents the benefit of the doubt when loads of Asian parents fuck up and get it wrong all the time.

So over to my readers who are parents: what do you make of Bella's suggestion? Is there a way for me to redefine my role with my parents if I step up to the plate and become the parent or is this impossible without them still trying to be a parent? How do you build up a relationship with a 6 year old child? Let me know what you think, thanks for reading.

27 comments:

  1. Hi LIFT, There is a big difference between children and old people. Children are learning all the time, have a future, they're continuing to grow, they have hopes and aspirations. Old people may also be enjoying life (or at least trying to), but they have a limited timeline in which to do so and are mostly stagnant i.t.o. their position in life.
    Your approach to your parents should be: to simply make them as happy and comfortable as possible when you are with them (which is not that often). Take them out to eat their favorite food or go shopping (old people love to compare prices of goods, especially at supermarkets).

    If you are worried that you won't feel anything when your parents are gone, I can tell you the most common emotion adults feel when their aged parents die is RELIEF (which is WORSE than feeling nothing). Maybe in your case, "guilt" is a very real possibility because you have migrated to another country and likely won't be at their bedside when they take their last breath?
    To avoid that, you could make it a point to visit S'pore more often (say, twice a year) in the last few years of their lives?
    You know they love you, so they would want to see more of you.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi CLT. Thanks for responding. I just needed someone to talk to about this and I think it would be too hard to speak to my sisters about it because I feel like they are doing all the hard work with my parents and I'm the only one rebelling against things like my dad's refusal to engage me (such as by even speaking to me) or my mother's pretty extreme stupidity (which my sisters just take in stride everyday). You have totally hit the nail on the head though in the way you've described my parents and what I think Bella is getting at is that her expectations of her 6 year old are fairly low as well, you can't expect much from a 6 year old can you? As long as they behave themselves, you're happy enough already. When expectations start that low, then you can start building relationships.

      I think society expects us to feel sadness and do thinks like cry or mourn when our parents die, but I really am scared that people will think I am a monster because right now, well, you have no idea just how distant I am from my father who doesn't wanna talk to me. I've always retaliated by thinking, well if you can't be asked to find out about me I won't give a shit what you get up to as well. As for my mother, I'm sorry but speaking to her is so painful because of her extreme stupidity, it's like, a normal conversation doesn't last for long before her stupidity throws something moronic into the mix. So when they pass on, I'm going to feel - well, nothing. Relief perhaps. But not sadness. Not pain. Mostly just emptiness. I'll wanna be there to support my sisters who will probably feel genuine sadness but all that time, I'll be worried people will just hate me.

      As for the last breath scenario, you know what? I'd rather be spared that. You know, people only have nice things to say to their parents when they die - but there are so many things I want to express, my honest feelings from my anger to my resentment to my frustrations: I let that out on my blog but I spare their feelings because they're too autistic to deal with it. I don't want to lose control of my anger and 'scold' my parents for having been so autistic just before they die. I'd rather not be there. Let them die thinking they're perfect and I'll have the final say on my blog - that's the way it should be.

      As for the last part, sorry my friend, you know they don't know me. You know me so much better than they do, you realize that?

      Delete
    2. Hi again LIFT, Thank you for that honest response! A lot of food for thought. Ah, the mortality :(
      First off (& most emphatically), please don't worry that ppl will "hate you/ think you're a monster" after your parents' death. When it happens, the only ppl whose opinions you should care about are your sisters'. It's nobody elses' business, not the relatives', not your parents' friends, NOBODY. You have never given a shit about what anybody thinks, why start now?
      Frankly if your sisters didn't try so hard to maintain your relationship with your parents, you would probably have severed all ties & become a total stranger to them, right? In fact, there are many adults who have absolutely no relatnshp whatsoever with their parents & have completely lost contact with them. In a sense, you are so-called "better off" than such ppl, since you still talk to your parents even if it's only about mundane things! At least you will have the satisfaction of saying you were magnanimous enough to let them die without regrets, cos you gave them the ILLUSION that they were good parents. When in reality, you owe them nothing.

      Sorry if I sounded presumptuous by saying "You know they love you". In one of your previous posts, you wrote something like "I know my parents love me, but I can't connect with them as they can't understand where I'm coming from" -a communication breakdown, where they're too overwhelmed by your success & don't know how to express the fact that they are actually very proud of you. Perhaps you're right that they don't KNOW you, but that doesn't mean they can't LOVE you.
      Last of all, your idea of the deathbed scenario makes me agree it's better not to be present then, but that's contingent on being around more often BEFORE they pass away. Chinese people think the son must hold the father's hand when he dies to ensure continuity of generations (stupid, but there it is).
      To be fair to your sisters, imagine your parents lamenting "Why isn't Alex here" as their famous last words. But, if they've already had their fill of good memories with you, they would be more contented when they go.

      Delete
    3. Hi again my friend.

      1. Good point about whose opinion I should care about. You're totally 100% right about how my sisters have gone out of their way to make sure my parents and I still have some kind of relationship because without them, you're right - we would have become estranged. Look, I get birthday and Xmas cards from my sister signed 'on behalf' of the family, but I only ever see my sisters' handwriting, never ever my parents'. They can't even be asked to sign a xmas card - go figure. Heck, I have met the famous actor Jude Law years ago and asked him for an autograph and he gladly obliged me; even Jude Law would grace me with a signature on my DVD of The Talented Mr Ripley but my parents cannot be asked to even sign a fucking Christmas card.

      Well, you're right that I am giving them the illusion of whatever they wanna think - you see, we're dealing with people like my mother who will argue with you that Singapore and Los Angeles are in the same time zone. The way they see the world is ... warped to say the least. I don't even know where or how to begin with them and my sister's approach is "let sleeping dogs lie, let it go, it doesn't matter, don't challenge them, they'll be dead in a few years anyway." Hence Singapore is in the same time zone as LA, yeah.

      As for knowing me and loving me - I know they loved me when I was very young, I think there was some genuine joy when they finally got the son they wanted. But that fluffy cute chick turned into an unruly cock as a teenager and they fell out of love with me pretty quickly. I don't think they're overwhelmed by my success - they don't even know what I am successful for or what I have achieved, so how can they be overwhelmed by it? Anyway, I can't recall what they wrote, but I still think they should make an effort to get to know not just me, but all their children and their only grandchild - something they have not done due to their autism.

      Hahahaha. Why isn't Alex here? Well, he fucked off to London over 20 years ago. If you're going to wait till now to wonder why he fucked off, then I wonder why you're waiting till you're on your deathbed to ask such questions - that'll be my reply.

      Delete
    4. LIFT, sometimes you can be so mysterious & puzzling. What you want from your parents - interest in you, stimulating conversation, advanced knowledge of the world - they're not intellectually capable to give, it's not their fault. Yet you still yearn for these, & blame them for not having any. ALL your friends & blog readers can give you these, but you also want it to come from your parents.
      You can have ANYTHING IN THE WORLD (every single young person in S'pore intensely tries to replicate your success, fervently desires to be in your position, is insanely jealous of you) but you insist on wishing for the impossible. Trust me, any S'porean would gladly give an arm & a leg to trade places with you, to exchange their life for yours, irrespective of whether they had good or bad parents. Don't let lousy parents blight your perfect life.
      I tried putting myself in your shoes, ask myself, why you're still dissatisfied with your parents after so long, when you know it's a lost cause & they are HELPLESSLY hopeless. Disclaimer: just guesses shared for exploring, please correct me if I overstepped.

      1. When they die you'll look back at times you had together & there'll only be scolding/ nagging or your impatience/ exasperation, no heart-warming or uplifting moments that move you to tears.
      2. Your relationship with your fantastic sisters may/ may not change after your parents are dead - you might Skype less often once the shared-parents link is broken. Do you suspect their effort to maintain contact with you is partly to please their parents, as they know your parents value you most for being youngest child & only son yet your sisters never showed any envy?
      3. Since your childhood was spent in SG & your parents dominated it, once they die your link to SG will be cut & an important chapter of your life will close forever (only your sisters can help you revive it but you don't wish to rely on them as they have already done so much to keep you involved in your family's SG happenings).
      4. For a valiant attempt to build your bond, apply your acting ability to pretend to be interested in stuff your parents talk abt, even join in "I managed to find Coke 10c cheaper in Sheng Siong than NTUC!" or take your nephew's pr sch assessmt books & tell your parents "Look I found these old books, he hasn't finished all the pages, lets not waste them lets complete them together" then sit down for a peaceful relaxing day doing practice exercises.
      It's mindless for you but it will give them nostalgia -once upon a time they could grasp what was in their son's mind. Small ways to make old people feel useful & glad.

      Delete
    5. Hi CLT. Sometimes I just need a good friend to come round and slap some sense into me and you know what, you're that good friend. Some people won't even bother but you care enough to slap some sense into me, thank you for that. I know I am being ridiculous. You're right.

      Let me respond to the bullet points you've made.

      1. Totally. I remember once I won an award when I was 18 - it was a short drive from my parents' house and my mother just refused to go. She didn't know what it was for, wasn't interested, like she just got bored of the fact that I won awards all the time and I wasn't surprised but disappointed all the same. In the end, my sister was like, "you know what, I'll go - I'll take pictures etc". Even when good things happen, my parents manage to fuck it up because well, that's the kind of parents they are. So there are no heart-warming or uplifting moments, just endless frustration that drove me to the point where I knew I had to leave Singapore to get away from them for good.

      2. No lah, I am genuinely close to my sisters. We talk a lot all the time about stuff that don't involve our parents. As for my sisters' attitude towards my parents, I also don't know what is going on. My sister describes their behaviour to me in great detail and for me, if it quacks like a duck, it swims like a duck, it looks like a duck, it waddles like a duck etc - then guess what? That's not a bear you're dealing with - it's a duck. Yet they won't use the A-word AUTISM to describe our parents because our parents would not want to be labeled thus and I just roll my eyes.

      3. I think that's simplistic and wrong: remember how I said because my parents failed in so many basic aspects of parenting, my sisters had to step in time and time again to act as my 'parent'? So in this fucked up family, my sisters played a HUGE part in bringing me up out of default, they had no choice. So you have to factor in the role they played in my childhood.

      4. I would rather have my teeth drilled than to act like my father - that's the kind of uneducated bullshit he does and that's beneath me. You know what, I'll say this out aloud, I look at my parents and I feel ashamed sometimes by the way they act. I never tell them that - but let me give you an example of the people I work with. This guy at work talk about the day his father met Margaret Thatcher when he got his OBE from the Queen. Yeah that's the kind of people I work with - people whose parents are so fucking amazing they get invited to receive awards from the Queen and the PM, whilst I have to contend with a father whose greatest thrill of the day is saving 10 cents in finding some discount at a local supermarket. The worst part is, so many people assume that I have risen to the top thanks to meritocracy - that oh Alex is smart and works hard so he can work in corporate finance in London today, but I get the feeling only real friends like you from home know how the odds had been stacked against me from day one.

      Delete
  2. My dear, you can't treat them like children when you were not parented well by them. The circle of life is kind of broken. What you can do is accept that you can never have the parents you want. Then you relish the time you have with them. That is all you can do. Set zero expectations from them. Give as much of yourself as you want to. Stay in the present.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Di - how did you build a relationship with your son when he was 6, if I may ask please?

      Delete
    2. When he was six, he already had had a relationship with me for six years. I was there every step of the way. From breastfeeding to bottle feeding to lullabies. When he was six, he was in grade 1. I would pick him up from after-school care, and we would talk about his day. He would tell me about the people who bothered him, the games he played, and what his teacher said. We would go home, rest, and sometimes napped together, etc. Every night, we had a routine of brushing teeth, getting into pj's, brushing his longish hair, and reading his favorite books. We talked until he fell asleep. Every morning, Daddy dropped him off and they had their own routines and special moments. I miss those days. Now we still shop together, lunch together, and watch movies a lot. He takes the bus and train to be with his friends, but we try to spend time together. I know all his close friends. I'm not a perfect mother. I am grouchy and tired a lot from working with other people's kids. He knows from young not to bother me when I need my space.
      It is not any one particular thing a parent can say or do to build a relationship with his or her child. It is the everyday things we do over the years.
      You missed that in the past. You can't redo that. You can try to make the present and the future more meaningful for you. A visit, a meal, a walk, a chat over tea, etc. These moments are what you will relish when they are gone. Never mind they may not show their appreciation for your attempts. Do it for yourself. Then years from now, you can tell yourself you were the bigger person, and that you tried to make connections with them. No regrets. You obviously care about this matter enough for you to write about them often. Start from there. No one need to be a parent here. They are not the parents you want. They don't need you to be their parent. Just be a grown up son. You define the relationship. Give as much as you want to give. Expect little.

      Delete
    3. Sorry I asked the wrong question Di - of course you have built your relationship with your son from the point of birth. Allow me to change it to a situation like this: say you notice you have new neighbours one day, say there is a 6 year old child in that house, would you be able to form a relationship with a child like that from scratch? Or would you do what I just did with my partner's niece, "come back to me when you've made it to medical school at Cambridge"?

      I am just at at total loss as to how you connect with someone like my mother who is so severely autistic and has zero social skills and (if I may be blunt) has one of the lowest IQs of anyone I have ever met. My dad is no better. I just look at them and like, I think it'll be easier to connect with 6 year old kids.

      Delete
    4. If I were to try and connect with a six-year-old now, I would start from their interests. I would let them talk and tell me what they like and dislike. I would ask them what they want to do --- play tag or go on the swing? Eat ice-cream or chocolates? I would give them options I can bear to do. If I dislike going to 3-d movies, I would never offer that as an option. I never go to 3-d movies with my son because they make me sick.
      So, with your parents, you offer what you think they may like, but only offer what you can bear. If they like to talk about the idiotic neighbor, and you can bear it for five minutes, let them. Indulge them. If they want to talk about how cold London is, just go with it. "Yes, it has been cold. Yes, I have had to wear my scarf. Ok, I will bundle up. Now has it been raining a lot in Singapore?" Two to three monies later, done. You have just spoken to them without fighting. Expect their stupidity. Expect zero. You just have had a civil conversation!
      Next time you see them, ask them what they want to do / eat. Give them options you can bear with. Gardens By the Bay? Chinatown? Stay home? Make them a meal? Don't expect a real bonding session. Strive for a civil short mutual activity. Build from there. If it doesn't work, give yourself credit for trying. Try another day.

      Delete
    5. I just have to tell you this story: one of my directors told me a story about when his father received his OBE from the Queen and he thus got to meet Margaret Thatcher as a kid when they all went to Buckingham Palace. His father has helped him so much in his career - I can't help but feel, sigh, that's the kind of fathers other people get, their fathers receive awards from the Queen. What kind of father did I get in comparison? Perhaps it's neither healthy or constructive to compare, but I can't help but do so when this is the kind of people I have to work with you know.

      I often console myself that I'm not as dumb as my parents, but when I hear about the kind of parents other people got .... well!

      Delete
    6. Work with the hands you are dealt with. I don't know what it is like to have parents to whom I can turn to either. Everything I have achieved had been done almost by myself. I envy my friends who can turn to parents who will give advice. I have received no guidance in my life.
      Perhaps it has build our characters that way. Made us stronger. It is what it is.

      Delete
    7. True. I don't have parents I can turn to, but I am extremely grateful for the many friends I can turn to. We make our own fate sometimes, if the hand we're given isn't good enough.

      Delete
  3. Communication and relationship building is a 2 way street. Unlike Bella, whose kid needs to interact with her to survive, your parents don't need to interact with you. They could just ignore you when you attempt to Skype them. Or like your father does, just concentrate on his crappy Chinese TV serials. What then?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The cold hearted side of me will say, "well if I am dead to you, then you may as well be dead to me".

      Delete
    2. Hey I empathise with you. I have lived apart from my parents for more than 20 years and alot of locals can't understand that and think I am wasting money for renting a room outside. But they have proper functional family units and could never understand. So I don't bother to elaborate too much.

      Delete
    3. Kids love you for loving them, they desperately want a relationaship. In fact, kids are eager to please their caregivers. Difficult Old folks may crave an audience but do they care about other people's interest? Hmm.

      Delete
    4. Hmmm - you're right. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree.

      Delete
  4. Hi LIFT,
    Perhaps I might be able to offer a different perspective. My relationship with my mother isn't quite as bad as yours, most of it stems from a bitter divorce my parents went through that gave her tremendous amounts of stress and some mental health issues as a single parent. It made for a pretty awful childhood. Like you, I took a scholarship in part to get away from my family, and like you I have a sister who remained in Singapore, got married, has children and maintains a closer relationship to my mother. But unlike your sisters, my sister has never attempted to very actively connect me with my mother. And I guess she and my mother both recognize that we are very separate individuals with some distant memories that bind us together as family, but not much more. I have returned to Singapore, moved out of my mother's flat and am doing a flatshare rental. This has raised eyebrows and condemnation from some people who just don't understand how I can be a stranger to my mother and even to my sister, whom I meet maybe twice or thrice a year even though we live on the same island. I have come to accept the fact that maybe I'm a cold bitch who doesn't emotionally feel very much like a 'daughter' and a 'sister', and certainly doesn't feel like acting the part. However, it is ironic that just like I bear no negative feelings towards a stranger, distancing myself from my family has made it easier for me to approach them. The thought of sitting down for a meal with my mother no longer fills me with dread (well, less dread). So I really don't know if this helps, but instead of treating your parents like the children you never had, why not just treat them like an aunty and uncle that you've never met, just take things day by day? And reset whatever relationship and expectations in your mind to zero, just like Di Talasi suggests? People aren't perfect, not them and not you, and certainly human relationships aren't perfect, so I don't see the need to strive for some predetermined ideal.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thanks for your comment XM. I can empathize, I hate the way society judges people like us whilst never faulting our parents no matter how much they may fuck up. I suppose my situation is somewhat different because my parents have a combination of severe autism + very low IQ = they have a medical excuse for the way they act and I suppose as someone who won the genetic lottery, I should be understanding, forgiving and not fault them. What are the chances I ask you, two autistic adults like low IQ giving birth to a son who has vastly above average IQ? That's why I often wondered if I was adopted since they couldn't get a son after 2 girls. That's the one thought that keeps me grounded, I am so incredibly fortunate not to turn out low-IQ like them.

      Delete
  5. Hi Limpeh,
    Last week was my company’s family day. I told my mother to come find me at my office then we both go to do the activities. My mother (only 50 years old) came dressed in branded goods, but because she lacks common sense, she got lost, board a bus to go and do the activity venue! So i asked her to cab back, which she refused, evn though i say i will pay. Then she scolded me like do i think i am very rich.
    When i finally found her, she start acting in a very disgraceful manner.
    1. She shouted at me in a lift full of my colleagues
    2. Start taking all the free food to bring home
    3. Insisted to see my new boss even though the boss is busy in a meeting. My mother say “just say hi only, why you ashamed of me?”
    4. Everyone i say hi to, she insist to take a photo together.

    I completely understand why you have no relationship with your parents. But hey look on the bright side, at leat they dont bring you down further by damaging your reputation. They just let you be. Worst is when my mother tries to meddle.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Oh dear. I guess it cuts both ways, I was going to say that at least your mother is taking an interest in your career but of course, things didn't quite work out well for you on that day. I'm offering you my empathy. Hugs.

      Delete
  6. I also have a dysfunctional relationship with my mother and it is only now that I realise what her problem is: she is emotionally manipulative who thinks of ways to punish me emotionally when she doesn't get her way. She has done the same to my father, who lives with her but doesn't speak with her anymore. He has always been a man of few words, but after he retired, her constant scolding and emotional abuse made him realise that the less he said, the less she would be able to scold him.

    I tried to search online as how to deal with a mother like that. Most of the websites say that there is no point trying to change my mother as she is living in the reality she has created for herself. The only solution is to maintain boundaries so your own sanity is not affected. Like your mum, my mum always insists she is right. She is never, ever wrong. I do feel like sitting her down and telling her how her behaviour is affecting me, but based on my past experience, it is very unlikely to have any impact.

    I might try speaking to her one last time about her behaviour. If she refuses to acknowledge my feelings, then I might just give up and resign myself to the fact that she will always be emotionally manipulative and has no hope.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hi FBB. Thanks for sharing.

      I don't know your mother well enough but allow me to make an observation about some older people. This is quite a common theme with older people especially after they retire - the thing is that they get lonely, this is never a problem for them when they are still working (or if they are housewives, then they are busy caring for the children). But once they are retired and the kids are all grown up, suddenly they are left without much of a purpose and they have a lot more free time on their hands. My dad reacts to that by just vegetating in front of the TV and doing very little, cos he even falls asleep watching the TV - that's how he reacts to having more time. But some older people including my mother get lonely (especially if her husband is ignoring her and just watching TV all day), so she cooks up a "problem" in order to get people to fuss over her. Good grief, I remember my grandmother used to do the same thing. We used to wonder if she was really ill or if she was pretending to be sick, so her children and grandchildren would rush to her side. I think she was lonely sometimes and craved for attention, but she didn't know how to engage her family to make them want to spend time with her - it may seem really obvious to us perhaps. I would organize a party, cook loads of delicious food and have my family come round if I wanted to see them, be the best host and make sure everyone enjoys hanging out with me. But somehow, my grandmother knew that if she claimed she was ill, we would rush to her side and take her to the doctor so she would claim she was ill when she wanted to see us - only for the doctor to tell us, "there's absolutely nothing wrong with your grandma, she is just lonely, I am going to give her some vitamin pills but please spend more time with her so she doesn't come to the doctor's - I have a lot of other patients to see and they are really ill, unlike your grandmother who just wants your attention."

      My mother is following in my grandma's footsteps - she doesn't have the social skills to be entertaining, funny, engaging, witty or fun, she doesn't know how to talk to people, she doesn't know how to be good company - so she ends up doing a lot of things to cook up a crisis when there's absolutely nothing wrong. The bottom line is, I can see what is going on: my dad is a lousy husband who ignores her and would rather watch any crap on TV than talk to her, so she seeks attention from her children instead but this is the only way she knows how to draw attention to herself.

      My two sisters have an infinite amount of patience for my mother and I don't know what to make of it - you see, on one hand I am glad someone is responding to my mother when she cooks up a crisis out of thin air; but on the other hand, I don't know if by giving my mother the attention she craves each time she cooks up a crisis out of nothing, they are encouraging my mother's irrational behaviour. My sisters are so respectful and traditionally Asian they would never question my mother even if she behaves disgracefully - because we're Asian right? We don't disrespect our parents by questioning their choices or behaviour, regardless of what they do, right?

      I don't know. I hope that my sisters will give my mother enough attention so she knows she is loved without having to kick up a fuss every time she feels lonely and neglected because my father is ignoring her again. I have no solutions - I have buggered off to London a long time ago.

      Delete
    2. "so she ends up doing a lot of things to cook up a crisis when there's absolutely nothing wrong."

      OMG you hit the nail on its head. That is precisely how my mother behaves. It must be a generational phenomenon then. Yes my mum isn't working and hasn't worked for a long time. I notice a stark difference between working parents of my friends and my own, who uses her spare time to imagine things in her own head. Like your grandmother, mine also likes going to the hospital because that means at least one of her children will accompany her.

      We must make sure that when we become old, we don't turn out to be like our parents. Social skills are very important - I suspect a lot of younger Singaporeans will also make the mistake of becoming melodramatic when they are old/retired because many of them also have poor social skills (albeit not as bad at the older generation).

      Do your parents have friends? I find it is helpful if they have friends to ease some of the burden off their children. My mum has almost none, unfortunately.

      Delete
    3. Yes, it's very sad that elderly folks have no social skills to make friends, so they resort to pretending to be sick etc just to get attention; sigh, I have no easy solution to this, because you're trying to get elderly folks to learn how to interact socially, that's a hundred times harder than trying to teach young kids how to make friends. The scary thing is my mother is turning into my grandmother in that aspect and it's like, yup, I can see exactly what is happening but I can't stop it or change things.

      My father isn't interested in friends - he just sits in front of the TV, watching TV all day, all night, doesn't talk to people, especially not my mother. My mother goes to church - I don't even think that she understands the bible or the concept of salvation or anything like that (I used to go to church when I was younger), it's like I've had conversations about religion with my mother and she doesn't even understand the basics. Good grief. She is so scared of losing face, so instead of saying, "I don't understand what you said", she just sits there quietly, hoping that no one will notice that she doesn't understand a thing that is going on. But she goes to all these church services because the nice adults at the church will be like, auntie how are you? They will be very nice to her in the name of fellowship. I mean, I'm happy she's found a happy place where she has found some kind of belonging - though the intellectual in me believes that you should go to church if you actually understand the religion and what this whole deal is with the bible, Jesus and salvation etc. I think my mother is just going because people are nice and she's lonely, she just needs something to do. But you know, she's happy at church, very happy and I can't complain - maybe splitting hairs about her total lack of understanding of the christian religion is going a step too far.

      Delete