Thursday, 29 December 2016

Will there ever be another Amos Yee?

Hi there, one argument that has circulated in social media is that even if it did feel like squashing a fly with a sledgehammer, it was necessary to punish Amos Yee harshly to ensure that there will never be another Amos Yee ever again in Singapore. There has even been a rather well written blog post about it here. Thus there's a sense of anger that if Amos Yee was granted political asylum in the US, not only would that tantamount to him 'getting away with it', it would encourage others to follow suit. I'm going to tackle this topic because I feel it is barking up the wrong tree.
Will anyone be willing to take his place?

Why hasn't there been others before Amos?

Little has changed in Singapore - I remember my childhood in Singapore, growing up in the 1980s and 1990s, there was plenty for people to be unhappy about and protest about. Teenagers were rebellious and angry then too, why did it take so many years till 2016 for someone like Amos Yee to come along? To broaden the scope a little, there have been others like Ng Hui Hui and Roy Ngerng in the past of course (we've not heard much from them of late, have we?), yet I suppose Amos Yee took us all by surprise because he was only a teenager - a mere 16 years old when he first got into big trouble with his LKY video. Have Han Hui Hui or Roy Ngerng succeeded in changing anything? Whilst I admire their guts in taking on the system, they seem to have only succeeded in getting themselves into big trouble - indeed, Roy Ngerng lost his job because of his involved in politics. That's a high price to pay and that's a good reason why many don't dare to speak up - Amos was 16, he wasn't in full time education, he had yet to commence NS, he didn't have a full time job either - that's why he had nothing to lose by getting into trouble.

The nature of opposition politics in Singapore

In Singapore, we're used to a certain kind of opposition politics - if I may be blunt, the kind that is polite but inefficient and doesn't really ever challenge the PAP and hence is tolerated by the government because it doesn't ever really change the status quo. Amos Yee has broken the mould in demonstrating a new level of boldness that the opposition parties would never dare to employ and that's perhaps one of the few redeeming features of Amos Yee - that he speaks his mind in a way many Singaporeans never dare to. My reader Raymond Chia summarizes the situation up pretty well in his description of Roy Ngerng and how dysfunctional these characters can be at times, "At one point I think he even believed the opposition parties would be queuing up to invite him to run for election. I read one of his blog posts in which he largely ignored other opposition contributions, but instead waxed lyrical about himself, as though he alone did more than any of them." Now that Amos Yee is gone (probably for good), it'll be business as usual for the opposition parties in Singapore. He failed to change the way the game is played in Singapore and in choosing to leave, he has effectively given up trying which is actually a shame as things will just revert back to the status quo.
Many have found Amos Yee's courage to speak up quite refreshing

The concept of 'opportunity cost'. 

Amos Yee was a young man in despair at the whole system in Singapore - he was so disillusioned with society that he chose not to pursue further education after having completed his 'O' levels. He was convinced that he had nothing to lose by offending a large number of Singaporeans at a time when they were mourning the passing of LKY - now most Singaporean teenagers would feel that they have plenty at stake, plenty to live for. Perhaps they have plans to pursue further education or train for a career and do not want to do anything foolish that make jeopardize their future in Singapore by getting a criminal record or even simply the stigma of being a social pariah. How many Singaporean teens are in such a miserable position of despair, when they feel like they have absolutely nothing to lose by getting into big trouble like that? Hardly any - they have something to live for and hence the opportunity cost for them is too great, so they choose to censor themselves. There is just too much for them to lose, their future is at stake.

And even if there are... they are not Amos Yee.

Let's acknowledge the fact that Amos Yee is both intelligent and articulate. No doubt about that. Have you seen the quality of the kind of conversations that take place on the forums? It is dire - these people can barely string together a sentence in English and they are not witty, not articulate, not funny, in fact it is downright painful reading the kind of crap these stupid idiots come up with. They are totally incapable of coming up with a cogent argument the way Amos Yee can. I know what you're going to say - there are plenty of brilliant straight-A students in the top schools in Singapore who can match Amos Yee in any debate and you're right, there are. But these ambitious students are future scholars on their way to a bright future, they do not experience the despair that Amos Yee did. Amos Yee is unique because most teenagers who are intelligent and eloquent do not feel a sense of despair about their circumstances; those who are stupid and inarticulate probably do experience such despair but they simply do not know how to express themselves in a way that can gather an audience. Indeed, not many teenagers can do what Amos Yee did.
You can say what you want online but who's going to listen to you?

There are other smaller ways for teenagers to rebel. 

Amos Yee directed his anger at the establishment, at authority, at the government. He was biting off way more than he could chew - whatever made him think that he could, as an individual, as a teenager, could take on the might of the Singaporean government from his bedroom and win? No, he didn't pick his battles and was destined to fail from the start. Even if a teenager is feeling rebellious, well he might choose to pick a battle that is somewhat smaller, that is a bit more clearly defined and has a clearly defined end goal. When you have such a goal, it's easy to say, "okay I've got what I wanted, great - I've succeeded" and declare the end of hostilities. What was Amos Yee expecting - what was his end goal? Was he expecting to start a revolution in Singapore? No, he didn't have one. Let me run through a few real life case studies of rebellious teenagers whom I had come across over the years and show you how they had managed to rebel in some way against something which angered them. Obviously, I am not going to use anyone's real names in order to protect their identities but I am using their stories to illustrate a point.

Case study one: 'Mustafa'

Mustafa was an angry teenager in Serangoon and wanted to rebel against his religious parents whom he did not get along with at all. One year, when he was 16, after having gotten into a lot of arguments with his parents that year, he declared he refused to fast because he didn't see the point of it. He didn't go as far as to declare that he didn't want to be a Muslim anymore, but he knew that in refusing to fast with the rest of his family during Puasa/Ramadan, he would anger his parents and get the reaction he wanted. His parents did all they could to punish him and go as far as to refuse to give him any money for food - but Mustafa would lie that his non-Muslim friends have been feeding him bacon sandwiches when he was at school. Eventually, Mustafa's parents gave up on him in a "do what you want, see if we care, just don't tell the relatives that you're not fasting and eating bacon sandwiches." Mustafa felt that he had reached his end goal - ie. to defy his parents by refusing to fast that year and he decided that he had 'won' that match.
What is the point of a rebellion then?

Cast study two: 'Jennifer' 

Jennifer in Clementi like Mustafa was a 16 year old who didn't get along with her parents at all. They were paranoid about her having a boyfriend and that it would become a distraction for her when she really should be focused on her studies. They refused to her let stay overnight at her best friend's birthday party, she decided to pretend that she had a boyfriend called Michael and in her mind, Michael would be the perfect boyfriend: considerate, good looking, a good listener, generous and adventurous. She then broke it to her parents that she is good friends with this guy called Michael and somehow, she had been meeting up with him in secret and she is sick of hiding the truth from her parents. Her parents freaked out of course and she got the reaction she wanted - they demanded that she stopped seeing this Michael. She cried a lot and then agreed to stop seeing her imaginary boyfriend. But every time they got into an argument in the future, she would use 'Michael' as the bargaining chip. "You won't give me money to get tickets for this K-pop concert? Never mind, I'll ask Michael - I'm sure he won't hesitate to take me." In fooling her parents that 'Michael' existed, Jennifer felt she achieved her end goal and had 'won' that match.

Case study three: 'Ben'

Ben in Bishan has slightly different from the previous two - he was also 16 when this happened: his father was concerned about the amount of time Ben was spending on his computer games so he decided to go make Ben go cold turkey. One day when Ben came home from school, his Xbox was gone - his father had taken it to his office and said Ben could have it back after his exams if his results were good enough. Ben refused to give in to blackmail like that. If addiction was the issue, he would have his revenge. Ben's father was an ex-smoker and his mother forced his father to give up smoking after her father died of lung cancer. Ben started sneaking smoking paraphernalia into the house (cigarette butts in the bin, lighters, empty cigarette packets) and one took his father's shirts out of the laundry basket and infused it with cigarette smoke at his friend's house (his friend's older brother smoked) - it was enough to make his mother suspect that her father was smoking again behind her back and it resulted in them having a huge argument. Once his parents had that big quarrel, Ben felt that he had evened the score, achieved his end goal and at least 'tied' that match - so each his father raised the issue of computer games, Ben raised the issue of his father's smoking.
Ben's father is an ex-smoker

Case study four: Mei 

Mei in Marine Parade had very traditional parents who often drove her nuts - the generation gap was huge and they were paranoid about everything in Mei's life. It often frustrated Mei that her parents made little effort to try to understand the world she lives in and usually just default to their own views of the world from another era. Mei felt she needed to do something drastic to disrupt their lives to make them pay attention, yet she wasn't the confrontational type. So Mei declared that she was a vegan and could no longer eat the same foods her parents ate, out of a matter of principle. She did it just to force her parents to ask her questions like, "you've been eating meat all your life, why the sudden change of heart now?" Mei had been desperate to get her parents' attention, to try to get them to take interest in her view of the world - now she had a reason turn the tables as she preached to them the virtues of going vegan. She had taken control and made a major decision in her life without her parents' approval. In forcing them to engage her over her new dietary habits, Mei felt that she had achieved her end goal and 'won' that match.

In all four cases, these teenagers were smart enough to realize that they had to set a realistic end goal for themselves in order to have some kind of exit strategy where they could declare themselves victorious. They didn't bite off more than they could chew - they planned their rebellion carefully and were realistic about what they could achieve in challenging the figures of authorities in their lives. Perhaps I am stating the obvious, but a logical person would never set himself up to fail and be quite satisfied after having achieved a realistic goal. For all his intellect, Amos Yee seems to have failed on this aspect for he has certainly set himself up to fail - unless getting political asylum in America was his ultimate goal, what else has he achieved apart from inflicting a lot of suffering on himself and indeed his parents?
Do you have an end goal? Do you have a plan?

Not every angry person wants a revolution. 

The four case studies illustrated how frustrated teenagers just need to do something to feel more in control over their situations. Amos Yee was so hungry for a fight and went out looking for one - well, not everyone shares that desire for a fight. I certainly wasn't happy with the way things were in Singapore, but I didn't see the point in trying to change things in Singapore. No, I simply planned to leave Singapore quietly, first by getting a scholarship to do do my undergraduate studies in the UK and then I got a job upon graduation, eventually taking British citizenship. What I did was far easier than trying to change Singapore - it was just so much easier moving to another country where I would be so much happier. Indeed, many who are unhappy with the way things are in Singapore would have seen what happened to Amos Yee and thought, what's the point of complaining? Do I want to end up in trouble?  I'm better off doing my research into how I can become a highly skilled migrant and seek greener pastures abroad. 

Personally, I certainly hope we'll never see another Amos Yee for the simple reason that I think it is a waste of everyone's time and energy to persecute an angry teenager. He was a one-off. What do you think? Will we see another Amos Yee-like angry teenager emerging in Singapore? Leave a comment below, many thanks for reading.

37 comments:

  1. Not related to Amos Yee but do you think you will try for this role? It's gonna be in London apparently

    http://www.moviecastingcall.org/supporting-role-auditions-for-walt-disney-studios-feature-film-han-solo-a-star-wars-story/

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    1. Yes, have you read the part that says, "Starring and supporting roles are mainly being cast through talent agents." This is the kind of thing my agent will take care of - in any case, my agent knows the husband and wife team at Hubbard casting well so it's best if I go through her. My last casting with Hubbard casting was bizarre - it was a bit of a car crash as I forgot my lines but still got the part anyway.

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    2. Such things are totally out of my hands. I adopt a que sera sera attitude when it comes to castings.

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  2. Hahaha ops, actually when I made that statement I was referring to Roy Ngerng instead.

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    1. Salah, I should have made that more clear - I have since edited the piece to reflect that. Once again, many thanks for your brilliant quote.

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    2. And there's one of yours which totally explains my feelings about online discourse in Singapore. "these people can barely string together a sentence in English and they are not witty, not articulate, not funny, in fact it is downright painful reading the kind of crap these stupid idiots come up with".

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    3. Sometimes I look at news reports from Singapore where readers get to leave a comment and I'm wondering why any of these idiots bother posting anything - if you don't have anything intelligent to say, why open your mouth? But then again, I look at my mother and she's exactly like that. My sister had been to Korea recently and both my sister and I speak a little Korean - not much, but we do have some knowledge of Korean gleamed from friends, travels + K-culture. So we were talking about the word 'yeogi' and it means here. My mother who doesn't know any Korean said, "Yogi Bear". And my sister patiently said, "no it has nothing to do with Yogi Bear, it means "here" - did my mother respond by learning a new word in Korean? Nope. She just laughed at her own joke and repeated, "Yogi bear!" And I'm like, geez, it's bad enough hat your joke isn't funny and for you to laugh at your own joke when no one else is finding it funny - you're as bad as the Singaporeans who feel the need to say something when they really have nothing of value to contribute to the conversation. Sometimes I wanna tell such people that if they don't speak up, no one is going to think they're mute - or in this case, if they don't post anything online, no one is going to assume they're dead.

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    4. Yeah if you go to the Straits Times or ChannelnewsAsia pages you will see the same group of people "camping" there to post the same types of comments over and over. Doesn't matter whats their stance, they could be pro-government or anti, but this is such a useless way of life honestly. First off, you talk crap so you are not contributing to the argument at hand. Second, if you spending all that time on comments pages it probably means you are neglecting what really matters in the real world. And thirdly, the worst thing about loudmouth Singaporean netizens is, they expect to be given a platform to comment for free. This is why as I mentioned before, many socio political and alternative sites struggle for funds even though they have significant readership. These people talk big about having an alternative view but will not even contribute a few bucks to keep it going.

      Kind of goes against the Asian stereotype of not speaking up, that we have so many of such people who take speaking up to such an addictive, yet nonsensical level. I am also seriously at a loss to explain what motivates a person to be a keyboard warrior or troll. I mean, don't these people have some form of awareness and realize just how useless they are, whether online or offline?

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    5. "Sometimes I look at news reports from Singapore where readers get to leave a comment and I'm wondering why any of these idiots bother posting anything - if you don't have anything intelligent to say, why open your mouth?"

      I cannot agree enough! I sometimes wonder if this has to do with how repressed the society is, which compels people to vent on social media.

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    6. Oh came across this by the way. More on how he's trying to go about this whole asylum thing.

      http://singaporedissident.blogspot.sg/2016/12/the-detention-of-singaporean-amos-yee.html

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    7. Thanks for that - it was a good read. Apart from one glaring error, which was the way he wrote U Tube instead of Youtube - is he unfamiliar with Youtube?!

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    8. @Limpeh. No problem. Was wondering what you think though. That dissident lawyer, was he too stingy in not waiving a $3500 asylum fee for an 18 year old fellow political "victim"? Or is he right about Amos being arrogant and presumptious in wanting everything free.

      @altheawesome. I believe its the internet age that brings this to the fore. I mean such people have always existed. The thing is that a lot of people have a victim complex. They imagine slights and insults everywhere, like for instance they think that their poor English or lower education is being looked down upon by others. I had colleagues like that. Most of the time, the rest of us were never going to judge them by these things, we simply valued people who were team players and above all treated others with respect. But sometimes, they either develop a complex, or use the pretense of that complex to hide their other faults. Ironically, in developing and/or using such a complex, they are bound to the very shackles of society they claim to despise, such as judging one's self worth by money or education.

      And it is not hard to create an email or forum account these days. So after a long time, such people have an avenue to air their views, no? Suddenly, they are somebody. Suddenly, they can project their opinions to the world. And they get hooked on it, using the facade of being "active citizens", and "non-conformists" as an excuse to keep doing it.

      But online discourse and the job of persuasion is just as Darwinian as any other world out there. Do it good and you become an influential blogger. Do it bad and you are just a dumb troll. There is a reason why some bloggers achieve a greater following than others. Maybe 1 in 10 non-conformists, maybe more, go on to do something. The rest simply feed themselves the lie, and continue to be nothing more than stupid ranters. They perhaps end up even worse off because they stopped trying to improve or change their situation due to the fact that they think ranting is their thing. And they will rant more than most because deep down, they are insecure. They do little in real life. Maybe they hanker after material wealth but cannot have it. Maybe they have the material wealth but are poor socially and cannot relate to others. They are not even intelligent or wise enough to influence others in their own way. So they turn to the only place where they think they can be somebody: the comments page. Name calling and repetitive posts become their forte, it is the only way they believe they can get any gratification.

      Of course, this does not apply to all such people but I believe it does for a large number. Doesn't change a thing though whatever their motivations might be. They are still stupid ranters plain and simple.

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    9. @Raymond Chia, it is useless donating to those so called alternative media site since you don't really know who is their real benefactor (like ToC and Mothership might have PAP links). Then again even voicing out on those sites won't do a lot come elections time. It would be better to donate to their preferred political party, and disclaimer time, this is what i have done in past GEs.

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    10. Hi Raymond, great insight about trolls. But onto your question - I don't know, perhaps you're being somewhat harsh about this guy asking his standard fee? I have been in situations before whereby I offer something of value for free out of the goodness of my heart only to be treated like shit, but when I put a value on it and ask for money, people treat me with respect. The best case study of this is during the 2012 Olympics when I tried to volunteer with my 10 languages, only to be treated so badly by the volunteering process that I pulled out of it and had to say, fuck this shit, if that's the way you wanna treat me. Then ironically, I got approached to be a PAID translator and woah, they treated me well, paid me extremely well and in hindsight, I was like, holy fuck, I was trying to give my services away for nothing when really, I should have been demanding money - a LOT of money for what I can do. That's the problem with the world - if you are too kind and give away something of great value for nothing, people will treat you like shit because the price tag on your services is $0.00 - they don't see a value attached to it no matter how intrinsically valuable it may be to the situation. I can just imagine someone like Amos Yee treating his lawyer is crap, because he imagines that he is the next Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning, no with someone like that you need to put a price on the services, it's not about greed, it's not about money - it's about making sure you get treated with the respect you deserve.

      In my current job, I asked for a LOT more money than when I last worked in finance and I find that the more money you demand, the better people treat you. There is a right time and place for charity, to give money/services away for nothing and not expect anything in return (such is charity) - but you've got to know when's not the right time to do it by the same token.

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    11. @Limpeh. Yeah, that may be right. But wanted to hear what you think. I can imagine a lot of Amos and opposition supporters thinking he should be given things for free though.

      @Chaoniki. Good for you. I've donated once to TOC, and have currently signed up to support TMG. Point I am making is, at least you had the conviction to contribute something, however large or small to what you believe in. The multitudes of Singapore internet trolls though, will not even be willing to do that.

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    12. Hmmm. Raymond, through the years at work, I have learnt that there is a 'don't ask, don't get' principle. I remember once when I was working on a contract in Slovakia, on the first day we got there, literally within the first 2 hours, one of my colleagues asked for a daily allowance and I was like, "ooh I am too paiseh to ask for more money, I just got here, but I'm kinda glad he asked." The Slovakians said no, he insisted, they argued - and fast forward 5 hours, the Slovakians gave in and we got like 50 euros daily allowance for food/drink/misc for the time we were on the contract. Given that we were working all day and not out sightseeing, we didn't use the 50 euros a day and that was just extra money in the pocket, cash. So yeah, being paiseh and polite gets you nothing in life - being demanding and pushy gets you results. I benefited from someone else's demanding attitude. So by that token, there's no harm in asking, but it doesn't always mean you'll get what you ask for.

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  3. I believe there will only be more. Amos Yee is just the start. As your insightful case studies demonstrate, the underlying drive to rebel is pervasive throughout Singapore society.

    Why this 'pervasive' drive?
    i chalk it up to the "Elders" demanding
    contradictory things from younger people
    Lets use my life as an illustration.

    Issue One:
    Whilst i was schooling my mother advised me not to waste time on 'finding girlfriends'; meanwhile theres her expectation that i would have a good wife and bear grandchildren. Obviously the odds of the latter happening would be enhanced with regular dating.
    So unless an arranged marriage was on the cards, her advice made no sense.

    So i should magically find a wife without having any real experience in dating women?

    Issue two:
    One her chief complaints about me is that i'm so called 'weak' What's the rationale behind this?
    I suffered a period of severe illness when i was 3-4 years old. Alrite fine, first impressions count, let's not blame her, shall we?
    However when i wanted to go swimming at ECP she wailed. When i start lifting weights she said its 'not sure if its good for u'
    When i started learning Brazillian Jiu Jitsu,
    she said "you are digging your own grave"

    So its wrong to be weak (i never was) and also wrong to toughen up (always a good idea)?

    Issue Three:
    I was as a child considered by most people as academically inclined. Teachers and family friends obseved this.
    My mum like many certainly expected good grades. And brutalized me when i didn't bring in the expected numbers

    Funny thing is when i brought in the good grades; she would then declare to immediate family members AND relatives that
    "actually he never study"

    Huh?? So u want me to study hard for good grades... or what?

    (If any reader of this post is wondering i went to TaoNan primary and i qualified to go to Duman, but chose Victoria instead)

    Thats JUST three examples - i could give u dozens
    For 20 yrs or so i was "mindfucked"
    I continued to believe naively that my mum had my interest at heart and somehow i was to blame

    In actual fact shes the sort of person who doesn't think very much and runs her mouth off mindlessly, oblivious to the reactions of others
    She hasn't a clue what she wants; never considered it important to think. Nonetheless she regards herself as vastly wiser and more superior than others, saying things like
    '"graduates are useless" (she's a drop out)
    "people dunno what they are doing" (does she?)
    etc etc

    Does my description of her fit other nasty parents? i suspect it does.

    Ah and btw, shes a staunch PAP supporter
    She doesn't know anything about them
    For instance, shes totally clueless about what Goh Keng Swee did;
    but hey, dun let a lack of facts get in the way of your beliefs eh?

    Faced with such Ignorant-Arrogant malicious "Elders"
    rebellion is inevitable

    However not every rebel will have the skills to be constructive
    Notice in my case a strong theme of interfering -and in fact out right trying to demoralise my attempts to learn something or accomplish anything at all (how to date, learning sport, studying hard for grades)

    Thus those rebels that lack skills to be constructive, can only lash out at such
    malignant stupidity

    Its easy enought to film yourself and upload a video, much easier than trying to persuade assholes to change.
    Its the easy way out and eventually more people will take it. I believe.

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    1. Hi Lex. Shame, I think you and I share a lot in common with regards to our parents. The bottom line is that you come to me for empathy (and vice versa) because we totally understand each other and can help each other in a way that our parents never can or will. This does make me think - what's the point of rebelling against figures in authority when this is the kind of people you're dealing with? Isn't it going to be so much more constructive to seek greener pastures elsewhere rather than bang your head against the wall trying to change the unchangable?

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    2. Hi Alex, i think u just echoed my thoughts perfectly. U see im not a regular blog reader and as much as i'm keen to discuss matters on family, culture, and career, its not that easy for me to find people that are constructive about these things (thus far)

      Here on your blog, due to the quality articles you write, you draw a certain crowd (with some brains) and think i can readily have that
      "conversation i need to have"

      I certainly agree on the greener pastures part
      We need a Plan B. If the family we are born into, doesn't function and can't be "fixed"
      Then well we need to create our own family, cultivate our own community

      And That's logical. Trouble is, a teen from a dysfunctional home may lack even basic thinking skills. Dysfunctional parents breed dysfunctional kids after all.

      he/she feels caught in a catch 22
      "Im suffering at home, in this system, but i can't survive indepently either, so maybe i ought to lash out and try to get attention & change that way"

      That's why i believe Amos is just the start.

      (btw had a name
      change - if im gonna keep posting family stuff.. well lets just say its safer this way!

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    3. Well, I'm glad I am able to provide a safe space where we can offer each other empathy and support. I am very pleased that I have attracted some very kind and intelligent people here to my blog and that's the reason why I keep on blogging.

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    4. Hahahaa! U mean u dun blog for the pleasure of celebrity? i misjudged you then 😆
      Nonetheless im delighted to have found this blog, so please, blog on! Blog on!

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    5. You'll be amazed L Chen - I may get a lot of readers on my blog but they are interested in the subject matter (eg. Amos Yee in this case) and not me per se at all! Please let me give you an example, recently I told people to follow me on Instagram thinking, oh if I can get thousands of readers a day on my blog, I can get the same on Instagram right? Oh dear, the numbers who did follow me were depressing and I just realized, it's because I'm faaaaar from a celebrity, I'm just a good writer who can explain certain topics well. Writing is hardly the way to find celebrity, I've had my 15 minutes of fame when I've done TV. Writing is a far more intellectual pursuit.

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    6. I followed, but with a different nick that you should be able to figure out.

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  4. The problem here is that Amos Yee is a product of the so called 'daft' Singapore society. Without this society whereby everyone is supposed to be obedient to authority, Amos Yee would have just been another teenage pursuing his dreams.

    From many conversations and people I read about Amos, I find that many people tend
    of Amos as an arrogant and handful of people think that Amos will hardly survive in
    the States. However, people have forgotten the fact that he is still in his most
    rebellious stage in life, and he will grow up one day. His arrogance is actually just
    a reaction towards authoritative behaviour rather than a natural character itself.
    This arrogance is induced as a defence mechanism to fight against the very thing that
    he is being exposed to since young but has no power to retaliate since he was just a child
    then. Many rebellious people tend to adapt this approach of a 'non-conformist' mindset
    against authoritarian figures (e.g. parents, teachers etc.) because they do not want
    the strong to exploit them just because they are weaker or that they have a different
    thinking. Every behaviour has a positive intention. Nobody wants to be left out, but
    sometimes different circumstances has led us into radical thinking.


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    1. Amos is speaking from a position of personal weakness; good insight!
      thats something an authoritarian fails to recognise
      Im guessing Amos just needs a measure of respect and i daresay fondness. He in turn will be respectful

      Common sense tells us we Gotta give respect to take respect. And its really up to full grown adults to take the initiative - again, common sense!
      I guess common sense just isn't that common!

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  5. For the case of Singapore, I would say that people like to condemn non-PAP supporters
    as ungrateful, and they argue that they like the ruling government because no other
    government is as corrupt-free and PROVIDES people with a safe and peaceful society. I do
    not doubt that. The government is indeed capable and commendable. However, this is
    exactly the reason why Asian countries are poor when dealing with democracy. Because people
    expect the government to GIVE, to PROVIDE, to PROTECT, or in fact for the case of Singapore, to SHOW a leading example for the citizens to look up to.

    However, that is not actually how democratic countries in the West work. The government's
    responsibility is monitor the interests of everyone and ensure that the interests of people are distributed fairly and no one is to exploit the interests of other people. That is how the law works in West as well. We lock a thief/rapist/murderer up because he will affect the interests of another person. We do not lock a dissident up, because he does not affect the interests of other people, even the government is the government is supposed to have more power than an individual and should not be affected by opposing voices (unless he poses danger). The purpose of voting is for the people to monitor the government, because they are taxpayers and they need to know whether they interests are protected (i.e. government is doing their job) and whether they are exploited. Only on this basis then can a welfare and a democratic society work.However, in Singapore, voting is compulsory. This means that the government FORCES you
    to vote, which is ironic as voting is supposed to be initiative from the citizens rather
    than to be pushed by the government. Freedom is about choosing your own responsibilities, something that Singaporeans do not have the luxury of.

    In fact, I would say that Singaporeans are used to this kind of obedience. There are a
    handful of them who like living under a system where you are 'brought' over from system
    to system since the start of primary school. They feel insecure when such system is not present
    especially when you have to think about what you want to achieve to live a meaningful life? Hence, they will have to rationalize that they have made a right choice of being an obedient people by hating non-conformist, making sure they get hell of a punishment.

    However, the fact is that non-conformist tend to be better thinkers and contribute more to the development of mankind. It is just that they are the minority and tend to be ostracized by others.
    One example would be Alan Turing who got punished just because he is homosexual. If Alan Turing weren't punished, would there have been a breakthrough in computer science, contributing to society?

    I will end this reply with an analogy. Many people say that Americans are decadent and cause the most wastage in resources and that if everyone were to live like Americans, we would resources from 2 Earths and crude oil will be finished in less than a century or so. But let me ask, imagine if you were God and there only 1 gallon of oil left and it will last the world for 1 year, would you give it to an Asian who can keep on saving the oil until the year ends and everyone dies, or would you give an American who will still waste the crude oil, but meanwhile create another source of energy to replace crude oil? Western values appear to be corroding, but they spur the thinking of people on how to choose the life they want to live rather than let life choose how people should live. So I would say that people like Amos Yee might again in Singapore, but that just shows that the society is improving.

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    1. Woah Ruther, so much to respond to but I'm in a hurry this afternoon, so I shall post a link to an old post which covers some of what you talk about: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/singapores-benevolent-egg.html

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    2. Hey Limpeh Foregin Talent why are you mocking singaporeans so much what about other countries I am sure they have a problem too.

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    3. Galaxy, a few points for you:

      1. "I am sure they have problems too" - what is wrong with your English? Didn't you pay attention in primary school? This kind of mistake is not the kind of thing that even primary school kids get away with.

      2. A key rule about writing is that you write about topics you know well about, I know Singapore well so it is my topic of choice in some of my posts. I have also written many posts criticizing other countries from America to various European countries in light of events that have happened this year.

      3. Who the hell are you to tell me what I should or should not right? You're just an anonymous person on the internet who can't even string together a grammatically correct sentence in English and would struggle to pass PSLE English. It's laughable that you think that I would react by listening to you - no, I'm just going to turn around and mock you instead. As we say in Singapore, you bueh tak chek.

      4. If you think that there are thing in Singapore which are praiseworthy or if you think that there are problems in other countries that should be highlighted, instead of telling me what to write or say, why don't you write your own blog and then you can talk about whatever you like on your blog. There is just no way in hell you're going to get anyone like myself to listen to you (you're a nobody, I have no reason to give a shit what you think) - so the next best option is for you to write your own blog, maybe start your own Youtube channel and have your say online. Good luck trying to get as many readers as I do.

      5. But feel free to stick around and read my blog - you might learn a thing or two Galaxy.

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    4. To extend to LIFT's reply, I would like to say that other countries do have their problems, but Singapore's is unique in such a way that it is a first world society filled with third world people, and that many people still think that it is a "perfect society". Not all Singaporeans are like that, but it is a general trend. Ordinary citizens have to start upgrading themselves to an extent whereby they have the ability to go out of Singapore and still strive. This would mean that the government has no leverage over them and can no way shortchange these citizens. However, I see this in China, Hong Kong and even Malaysia, but not in Singapore.

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    5. Hey Ruther, love your insights
      Broadly speaking, i think i have recently come to share your view
      i believe we have a government that has "downloaded" and supermimposed First World Institutions primarily of British origin
      on a society, that is still in many ways third world.

      HeartLand and Cosmopolitan are polite terms that we use to describe the Ghetto and Uptown respectively.

      And as for people being arrogant about their supposed perfection.. i will say something rather taboo.. and i don't expect anyone here to agree..
      i simply welcome any perspective

      And my punchline:
      People who come from the Ghetto in any major city tend to express an arrogance far above their abilities. They may even claim a kind of Ghetto pride as if their circumstances are not only, not (in terms of standard of living) inferior but even ideal and superior to the Uptown Yuppies

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    1. Galaxy, your question doesn't even make sense grammatically. I don't even know what you're trying to say, could you clarify please which of the following you actually mean to say:

      "what does it take to live in the Singaporean system?"
      "what is it like to live in the Singaporean system?"

      Those are two quite different questions that require very different answers. You need to actually read what you have written before hitting the 'publish' button because it makes no sense. None of us know what you're trying to say because your English is so bad.

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    2. To Ex-Lord of the Galaxy:

      You're being a bloody troll aren't ya?
      Look, Our beloved Blogger is doing us all a public service by facilitating mature discussion on the nature of our society. Then we gain understanding that can help us make more constructive decisions in our lives

      I personally see this blog as a safe space for me to uncover highly sensitive, hard to discuss beliefs that our heritage has taught me.

      i have found that beliefs taught have seriously compromised my decisions in school, in career, and in relationships. By understanding them, i can then reject them and succeed in meeting my needs and chasing my dreams

      You are right in pointing out that other countries have problems. No shit, sherlock.

      Every person faces challenges unique to his country. A Syrian man must find a to a life of peace out of a culture of war, thats not a problem here.

      Our chief problem in my own words
      (I am NOT speaking for any one else here)
      is the
      Dysfunctional Singapore Dream:
      Out purpose is to Have Cash Condo Car Credit Card & Country Club membership primarily via studying at supposedly prestigious schools and working for government or a big corporation
      And indulge in junk food, and trends.
      And then life is perfect.

      Only one part of this dream makes sense to me
      CASH

      Money to get what i want. What i need.
      What i need is love from community, love from family, good health, to enjoy creative pursuits

      Theres lots of Singaporesn people who treat
      creativity, in fact any form of independent thinking as a waste of time.

      Families who fucking believe that neglecting ones spouse and and shaming and ouright brutalizing one's children is an acceptable way of life.

      And as for community? U go out and so many people can't even bloody make eye contact when you talk to them. And when we do talk how often does it involve trash talking others or talking at others? How is that acceptable?

      I sought a way out of blind consensus, blind submission to abuse by authority, and the one thing that really gets to me: blind contempt for others - just because someone had less money, brown skin, poorer grades etc etc
      does not make the person deserving of contempt

      I say NO to aspects of Singaporean culture, so we can say yes to things that really matter
      1) Good relationships
      2) Freedom to pursue your personal ambitions

      Fuck other countries. We are here to solve our own fuck ups, which are real regardless of we try to sanitize or whitewash it


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    3. This is an old post but I can't help but respond to it positively since its so close to my heart what you have just said. I so wish there is much more humanity in our society.

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  7. What Amos ultimately want is attention. He is not out for the good or for positive change for anyone but himself. To the extent and at the expense of hurting and harming those who sincerely want to help him. You are right to point out that he is extremely intelligent. But you gloss over his moral shortfall.

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