Saturday 25 July 2015

Part 2: Don't know much about history (Wanjun's questions)

Hello again guys, let's get back to Wanjun's questions. To kick us off, please allow me to me quote Wanjun's.

"Don’t our forefathers hail from other parts of Asia, such as China and India, to settle in Singapore? At first I thought, doesn’t this mean our forefathers have the “adventurous” spirit in them to leave their home countries to settle in Singapore? Then why do so many of us lack this “adventurous” gene and have difficulty seeing beyond Singapore’s shores? I asked my mum this question before, she said our forefathers left China due to civil war, that they had no choice. But I am not 100% convinced, I believe something happened along the way to cause some Singaporeans to be like this. What is your take?"

So is this true? Did our forefathers leave China due to the civil war? Well that's an easy one: that's simply not true for the vast majority of Singaporean-Chinese immigrants. Come on guys, what do you think google is for?  This is not some mystery or secret - it is the history of Singapore! It's quite easily verified really. The Chinese civil war lasted from 1927, right through WW2 and ended with the victory of People's Liberation Army over the Kuomintang in 1950. So I don't know if your mother was talking specifically about her family or about the Singaporean-Chinese forefathers in general, but clearly, even before the first battle was fought in the Chinese civil war in 1927. In fact, the first wave of Chinese immigrants arrived in present-day Malaysia back in the 15th century, so there were Chinese immigrants in this part of the south-east Asia over 500 years before 1927. So even before 1927, there was already a large Chinese presence in Singapore. Chinese people have left China for a range of reasons apart from fleeing civil war, some were fleeing oppression from a corrupt regime with bad leaders, some followed their family members there whilst others were simply seeking their fortune overseas after hearing of others who have made their fortune in south-east Asia.
The evidence is everywhere: let's take the famous Tan Tock Seng Hospital built by the pioneer Tan Tock Seng. Tan was born in Malacca in 1798 and he moved to Singapore in 1819. His famous hospital was built in 1844. So as you can see, Tan was born 129 years before the Chinese civil war and he wasn't even born in China - he was born in Malacca. What about the famous Gan Eng Seng, another one of our forefathers. Like Tan Tock Seng, Gan was also born in Malacca in 1844. He left an incredible legacy in Singapore - some of his most recognised contributions were the setting up of Gan Eng Seng School, the Thong Chai Medical Institution, Tan Tock Seng Hospital, and the Ee Hoe Hean Club. Like Tan, he wasn't born in China and died long before the Chinese civil war started in 1927. Gan died in 1899, Tan died in 1850. So how can such forefathers have come to Singapore when they lived and died before the war started (heck, they weren't even born in China to begin with). The Singapore Hokkien Huay Kuan (clan association) was established in 1840 to help Hokkien immigrants from China  - note that was in 1840, a good 87 years before the Chinese civil war started in Singapore. So whilst some migrants did leave China during the civil war, they were certainly not the first ones: there was a constant flow of immigrants from China to south-east Asia over a period of about 600 years. So in short, Wanjun's mother is plain wrong.

But let me attack Wanjun's mother's logic even further. So she thinks that it is okay to leave China during a war, but it is not okay to leave China during peacetime? How about this then - what if another country decides to invade Singapore tomorrow and we have a state of war. Bombs are going off everywhere, people are dying, the hospitals are overflowing with the sick and wounded. If you were to try to flee Singapore then rather than stay and defend Singapore against the enemies, you would be classified as a deserter. Indeed, it was considered such a grave offence in the UK during WW1 that desertion was a crime punishable by death. So even if there was a war in China, why didn't these forefathers of ours stay and defend their homeland then - why was their decision to migrate to south-east Asia somehow more justified by the war?  Surely deserting your country during a war is a far worse than leaving your country during peacetime. So can Wanjun's mother justify her take on deserting your country at a time of war?
"Don't know much about history...?"

That's why Wanjun, with all due respect, your mother was telling a pack of lies when she was talking about the Chinese civil war. Is your mother a liar, trying to deceive you? Nah, I doubt that. She probably doesn't have a clue what she is talking about. Have you ever heard of that old song that goes, "don't know much about history?" If your mother is anything like my mother who isn't that educated, your mother probably had a few history lessons at school a long time ago but if you were to subject her to say a secondary two history exam today, she would totally fail. I know my mother would. You could call it ignorance or stupidity: I did talk about this when LKY died earlier this year and I was aghast at how so many Singaporeans knew precious little about LKY's life or Singapore's history for that matter. But to be totally fair to my mother, she was born in WW2 - what kind of education did you think she had during the war and in the years immediately after the war? She was lucky to be even literate, given how difficult conditions were in those days. We shouldn't assume that older people are any good at history just because they are old. Being knowledgeable about history doesn't just happen because you grow old, you need to make a conscious effort to study the facts. .

We are generally quite forgiving to the older generation in that light. Gosh, my mother doesn't speak English well, my father can't speak English at all, but when they make a mistake when trying to speak English, I just let it pass - I don't try to correct them. They can come up with the most ignorant bullshit on most topics from geography to science to medicine. I once had a really frustrating conversation with my father as he didn't understand the relationship between rain and temperature - perhaps he was taught in school back in the day, but he has clearly forgotten. Again, I decided that the best thing to do was to let it go as it doesn't matter that my dad has doesn't understand that part of physical geography.  Likewise, they believe in some old wives' tales which are clearly rubbish and have no scientific basis whatsoever, Again, I choose to ignore them rather than challenge them. My dad insists that using ginger juice would reverse my hair loss and give me a full head of hair again - of course, I know that's ignorant bullshit but rather than tell him, "please lah, you're talking like a really uneducated ignorant person" - I lied, I told him that I tried and it had no effect. So that way, I wanted to give him the impression that I took his rubbish bullshit advice seriously and at least that satisfied him. I know I am a lot smarter than my parents, I don't have to embarrass them into acknowledging it.
So if we are prepared to be forgiving to the older generation when it comes to subjects like English, geography, maths and science - then by that token, let's also try to be forgiving when they get their history wrong. It is unfair for us to judge them by our standards when they have not had the benefit of the kind of education that we have had. The younger generation are trained to look up facts instantly with google, whilst the older generation have had a lifetime of living with ignorance (and not letting themselves be too bothered by it). So your mother doesn't know much about Singapore's history - that's okay Wanjun, you have two choices really. One is to ignore it and let it go, the other is to engage her and try to educate her; but be warned that if you choose to do the latter, you may want to be quite realistic about what you could actually achieve. Neither options are particularly easy.

Lastly, Wanjun was wondering if there is any cultural link between our culture and having an adventurous spirit (to seek greener pastures in a new country). Well really Wanjun - there really isn't a link between the two. Having that wanderlust: that desire to see the world is a personality trait. It's just the way some people exercise almost everyday and some people never ever do any exercise: why are they so different? Those who exercise everyday obviously enjoy it and get something out of it, whilst those don't do it clearly do not enjoy it and feel they get little or nothing out of the experience. It is the same thing with travel - some of us have had great experience and crave more of it; some of us have also fallen in love with the countries we have visited and want to work there. Our desires will be shaped by our education and our experiences, so everyone will have their own take on this issue. Amongst any nationality - the Chinese, the Irish, the Indians etc - there will be people who are adventurous in this aspect and others who are not.
If I told you there were greener pastures elsewhere, would you go?

That's it from me for now on this issue - I hope that answers your questions. What do you think - do Singaporeans really know that little about history? What can we do to make people more interested in the world around them? Wanjun has left me loads of interesting questions so I will be posting my next reply to her soon. Thanks for reading.

7 comments:

  1. Older generation should know this group of people called Peranakan which are Chinese people that emigrated to SE Asia during the 15th and 17th centuries. Heck, my grandmother was one and she can speak fluent Malay. So there is absolutely no reason why she does not know.

    Granted, the bulk of Singaporean Chinese during the 19th century when the Qing begin to weaken and many immigrated overseas in search of better opportunities.

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    1. You can't assume that anyone older should know this or that - knowledge doesn't just form because you have white hair or wrinkles, somebody must have passed that knowledge onto you and more importantly, you should be interested enough in that fact to remember it. I don't know about your family, but at least in my extended family, I have a number of uneducated older relatives who were so poor they didn't have any education beyond primary school (some didn't even complete primary school) so they don't speak a word of English, they can't do simple maths and they are effectively illiterate. Most of these relatives are either very old or dead by now, but yeah people like that exist you know. Perhaps we should not take the fact that we're so well educated for granted. Perhaps that's because I'm older than you thus I am more exposed to uneducated, illiterate Singaporeans like that.

      I remember when I was young - I had to bite my lip each time one of my relatives had a 'don't know much about history/biology/maths/physics/geography/etc' moment - they would spout something totally ignorant and stupid but then my parents would remind me, I was lucky enough to be sent to the best schools in S'pore, these older relatives had no education, so they are illiterate and uneducated. I should feel grateful about the opportunities I've had rather than look down on them for being ignorant and stupid.

      So clearly, you and I know a lot about Singaporean and Chinese history (high five my friend, good on you) but let's not make any assumptions about what uneducated older Singaporeans know... if you ever meet some of my uneducated older relatives, well, I hope you will be kind and forgiving to them because they may be old but they are probably less well informed than your average primary 3 student these days.

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  2. Hello LIFT and XxtoweringxX,

    Thank you for your responses!

    I had a chat with my mum again (a short one, as she was rushing to go out) and realised that when she mentioned the Chinese civil war as a factor behind the wave of Chinese immigrants into Singapore, she was mostly referring to her own mother and her father-in-law, both of whom were born in China and escaped to Singapore because of the civil war. She agrees that way before the civil war, there were already Chinese who moved to parts of South East Asia for various reasons. So it's actually my fault for not fully getting her! Oops =/

    My mum is someone who is a little afraid of moving to another country, hence in her opinion, a strong reason to leave one's country would be something really major such as poverty or civil war because saving one's life is of paramount importance. So she finds it hard to believe that other people move overseas for reasons such as wanting to seek a "better life" as she would be like, "Life is good in Singapore!" I respect her opinion (many many people her age think this way, they will never, never want to leave Singapore) and since she has chosen to live in Singapore for a long long time, I am happy to ensure that she leads a good life as much as possible.

    LIFT, I wish to say that following your blog has inspired me to become a better person - to be more open-minded and more critical in my thinking, and to broaden my horizons. During my school days, I was the typical Singaporean student - mugging hard in the hope of achieving good grades and focusing only on what were in the syllabus and happily ignoring things that weren't going to be tested. Even in JC where we all had to do General Paper, I beefed up my general knowledge not for the love of it but to ensure I had enough "real world examples" to make sure I scored good grades for GP! Such a sad way to live life... So in the past few years I have been trying to cultivate an open mind and look at the world beyond a superficial level.

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    1. Well, I'm glad I've at least got you to talk to your mum about her parents and your family's history. The aim of my blog has always been to get people talking about issues and I'm glad I've achieved that. As for life being good in S'pore... I am not convinced. People are so upset over the way the PAP have redrawn the lines to ensure a win at the next election. What upsets me even more is the way they're going to win regardless of how dirty they play, so that just makes me glad that I have left Singapore for greener pastures.

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    2. People like my mum and her friends genuinely think that Singapore is a good place to live in because in their words, "It's so convenient, I go downstairs there is the food court and supermarket, I can catch the bus and MRT to get around, the government enacts strict laws so that there is peace and stability and everyone can go about their lives smoothly."

      I am not joking, they really say such things! They are born in the 1950s and they often talk about how poor Singapore was before independence, how the roads would be muddy, how poverty was widespread, how Lee Kuan Yew would turn up in a lorry speaking to the common people using a loudspeaker... I wonder if they are trying to avoid talking about Singapore's problems, or if they are so afraid of the poverty in the old days that they would give anything to have a comfortable and stable life, or if they really really believe that Singapore is the best in the world.

      I remember a few years ago, my cousin had a short work stint in London and my mum, aunt, uncle and I flew over to visit her. We then travelled to Paris, Rome and Barcelona. Mum, aunt and uncle compared Europe with Singapore and said, "Wow... it's so hard to get around Europe's cities, buying groceries/food is so difficult, streets are not so safe." They soon got tired of Europe and couldn't wait to return to Singapore! My cousin and I were amazed and amused that they just couldn't appreciate Europe's beauty!

      Do you know that Mediacorp Channel 8 has two news time slots - one at 6.30pm and another at 10pm? My friend has a theory that the majority of viewers for the 6.30pm news are older Singaporeans who are either retirees or work part time. In contrast, for the 10pm news, many of the older folk would have gone to bed and those who watch the 10pm news would be the younger working adults who have just ended a day's work. Thus the 6.30pm news would mostly focus on the terrible things happening in other countries, and then after the commercial break, the focus would shift to positive aspects of Singapore (e.g. Ministers planting trees, Singapore winning some award etc). The 10pm news would focus on good and bad aspects of Singapore society. Hence the older folk might get the impression that Singapore is doing really great while other countries are terrible. Oh gosh... if this is true... I am speechless!

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    3. Hi WJ, let me poke some holes in your mother's argument.

      What makes her think that other countries don't have all those conveniences that she talked about: I can get anything from a whole array of cafes, restaurants, food courts, supermarkets and use public transport with ease where I live. The laws in the UK aren't as draconian as Singapore's and thank goodness for that - I live in a real democracy, not a fake one run by the PAP. The fact is any relative rich first world country will offer her all of those conveniences that she enjoys - like duh, should she be surprised that they have supermarkets or good public transport in Sweden for example? As if Singapore is the only country in the world with such conveniences and the rest of the world are surviving as hunter-gatherer societies.

      I have lived in London since the 1990s and have worked all over Europe - let me explain why your mum found it hard to get around Paris, Rome and Barcelona. She doesn't freaking speak the local language, she's a tourist - heck, if I went to say Taipei or Beijing, even though I speak Mandarin, I would get lost because I am unfamiliar with the city; by the same token, your mum knows her way around Singapore blindfolded because she has been there all her life. Duh. It's not rocket science. And as for buying groceries, when she walks into a supermarket and wants apples - it is labeled pommes,manzanas or mele in the local language; it has nothing to do with the layout of the supermarket, it has got to do with the fact that your mum doesn't have the language skills. And as for the streets not being safe? Gimme a break - your mum is a suaku Singaporean who feels nervous because she can't read the signs around her or know where she is going, naturally she feels uneasy but is there any real threat to her safety? No, her feeling uneasy has got to do with her inadequacies, it has nothing to do with Europe.

      As you can tell, I loved Europe so much I thought, I'm staying for good, I gave up my Singaporean passport and have a UK passport this year. It's my way of saying to my parents, "screw Singapore, it sucks, I will have a much better future in Europe - what are you gonna do about that?"

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  3. XxtoweringxX made a rather good point about the waves of Chinese immigration to Singapore. They did not technically BEGIN with the British entry into the island around the early 20th century per se, but had already begun in the groups such as the Peranakan Chinese who were very much integrated into the fabric of indigenous Melayu society in one way or another. This is also why the gene pool of Singaporean Chinese is actually way more diverse than what those silly 'nationalists' are making out of this 'pure Singaporean' fallacy. The fact that some of these Singaporeans are educated in university or other institutions of higher education but still believe in some rather fallacious ideas and myths attest--to a certain extent--about the shortcomings of the Singaporean education system which forces you to memorize, but not process things critically with an eye for detail.

    Your point about the older generation is kind of true. I would say that a large proportion of my parents' generation is not well-educated, and the highest level of education among them was in fact A level certification in a Pre-U institute (among my maternal aunt or third maternal uncle at best), and the rest simply worked with their bare hands literally when younger. When illiteracy is the problem among them, it would not be surprising if they have very traditional and outdated "stick-in-the-mud" type of ideas such as that when you reach adulthood, you must work towards having cash, a car(or vehicle), and a wife to show to other people including seniors that you are serious about "making it in life".

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