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Why do we engage with haters on social media? |
Vince had submitted that piece to me last Friday and so I told him to sleep on the piece before I publish it on my website. I had a rather busy Saturday and didn't hear from him but as I logged onto Facebook on Sunday, he told me that he had reconsidered his stance and had asked me not to publish the piece after all. We had a talk about it and I would like to share some of my thoughts on the issue. Firstly, we both agreed that little could have been achieved by publishing that piece - after all, naming & shaming only works if you can actually make the other party feel ashamed of their actions. These people who made the homophobic comments are not at all ashamed of being homophobic - in fact, they would gladly shout it from the rooftops if given half a chance and hence allowing them any publicity via my blog (which incidentally is ranked the 14th most read blog in Singapore) would play right into their hands. Whilst I respect their right to hold an opinion about the issue, I sure as hell do not want to give them a platform to air it via my blog. Their comments have been seen by at best a few hundred people who have been scrolling through the thousands of comments on the IKEA Singapore Facebook page - really, I would prefer to keep it that way, rather than broadcast it to many more thousands via my blog. Urgh. No thank you.
Secondly, I think it is very important for us to pick our battles in life. I call this the path of least resistance, but sometimes it is really no more than just plain old common sense. What can be achieved by trying to argue with strangers on social media? Do we actually feel better when we get involved in an argument on Facebook or Twitter? Or does it just suck us into a negative downward spiral, when you are constantly antagonized by the other party and in return you give as good as you get? What good could come out this kind of interaction which we have very little control over the outcome? Wouldn't our time and energy be better spent communicating with our friends and family whom we actually have a real relationship with, rather than trying to start a debate with strangers we would probably never ever meet in real life? Such is the difference between making a comment of a friend's status update on Facebook and wading into a heated argument on IKEA Singapore's Facebook page: there is a huge difference between the two.
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What kind of social interaction are you seeking? |
Let me give you an example: as I scrolled through my Facebook feed today, I noticed that my friend Julia is going for surgery soon. I know that she is a ballet dancer but had no idea that she needed a surgery for her hip - I hadn't realized that she was even injured. I chose to talk to Julia about her forthcoming surgery: I messaged her to find out what the surgery was, why she needed it and how she was feeling. I could have easily waded into any argument on a Facebook group for The Online Citizen or The Real Singapore - but it was far more meaningful interacting with someone I know and care for like Julia, rather than try to engage a bunch of total strangers.
Here's the thing about the modern social media experience, most of us are satisfied with being mostly quite passive consumers but let's take something that used to be very passive for example and examine how it has changed: watching a TV programme. Many programmes encourage you to tweet along with the programme as you watch it, so if you don't like something or if you found something amusing, you're suppose to let the world know via Twitter. I don't get it - who cares if someone else found this scene upsetting or funny? I'm interested in the programme, not the reaction of other viewers. But this urge to tweet along to your favourite TV programmes reveals something about some people: they have an urge to be heard, they want to shout their opinions from the roof tops if they can. Some people do take this urge to be heard a bit too far: Amos Yee is the classic example of a teenager's lust to be a Youtube sensation went wrong in a big way. But it is really quite difficult to get your voice heard in social media today.
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Amos Yee took things too far on Youtube. |
If you're quite content being a passive consumer on social media, then fair enough. But oh my, some people who are desperate to have their voices heard on social media do go out of their way to provoke a reaction and get into a fight just so that somebody will actually listen to what they have to say on an issue. That is really sad - it reminds me of a character in a book I read years ago: Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison. In that book, Ruth Foster-Dead is pretty much ignored by her husband and she would go out of her way to provoke a reaction from him, even if it resulted in a brutal beating because being beaten up by her husband was somehow less painful than being practically invisible to him. She was more than just your average battered wife - she was a woman who knew no other way to seek attention, to get whatever little human interaction she could with those around her. Sadly, she wasn't equipped with the social skills to engage her husband in any other way and she was a sad, lonely figure.
I see a lot of Ruth Foster-Deads on social media - I do wonder about these people, don't they have people in their lives who will appreciate their care and attention? Don't they have a friend to encourage or support - the way I reached out to my friend Julia who is about to have hip surgery? I must admit that it can be tempting to react when we see something we disagree with on social media, but it is necessary to take a moment and consider what you are trying to achieve by entering into such an argument in the first place. Do you even know whom you are arguing with? If not, then what is the point of the argument then, even if you do manage to win that argument? What could you gain?
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good discussion with someone who may not hold the same opinions as I do. Heck, my whole blog was launched off the back of an argument I had with a Singaporean on Facebook. I have enough faith in my convictions to have them challenged and am open minded enough to entertain the possibility that other opinions may be equally valid - but such a fruitful exchange of ideas can only take place when both parties are willing and able to behave in a civil manner. I am proud of the fact that we manage to achieve this most of the time on my blog, when my regular readers have an exchange of opinions in the comments section either with me or with each other. Thus I prefer to blog here, rather than risk engaging strangers who are really just looking for a fight on the internet.
So yes, I think it is sad that my friend Vince encountered such a negative reaction on the IKEA Singapore Facebook page - perhaps quite naively, he thought he was in a position to inform and engage people, maybe even educate some of them. But here's the thing: you can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Likewise, you can't inform or educate anyone unless they're prepared to listen to you and trust you - perhaps that's where my friend had gone wrong. We tend to trust people we like and respect, whilst we maintain a guarded, cautious attitude to people we don't know on the internet. I have known Vince for many years now and am prepared to listen to him when he has something to say, but those Singaporeans on the IKEA Singapore Facebook page were clearly unprepared and unwilling to give him that same level of respect. Were they being close minded in refusing to listen to what Vince had to say or was Vince simply barking up the wrong tree? Where can we draw the line to achieve the right balance then?
So, that's it from me for now. What do you think about the issue? Would you bother with engaging strangers on social media or do you think that it is actually fairly pointless? Or am I just too pessimistic? Many thanks for reading.
I rarely engage strangers on social media online, especially if it is on a forum, or a channel, mainly because the internet allows for herd mentality, or even a virtual form of mob mentality, in which people will "gather together" and then "call out names" or bully people, often those whom they barely know or do not know at all. Of course, that does not mean that I will keep quiet. I normally keep my statements to one short sentence which is curt and yet will directly hit that person in the face especially if he or she is being mean to others.
ReplyDeleteHi Limpeh, I've been silently following your blog for the longest time and I only commented once regarding LKY (which I happen to disagree on). But I must say though I disagree with you on a few issues, I really enjoy reading your blog as a whole- your liberal, well-thought out viewpoints are a refreshing break from the usual things I read on Singapore's social media.
ReplyDeleteI don't argue with strangers on FB now- it is a complete waste of time and I agree we should interact with people who actually matter. But I think lines get blurred when it is someone you know personally commenting on your Facebook posts.
I have very liberal viewpoints, like you do, on LGBT rights, racism and feminism etc. I am happy to have civil, open discussions with my FB friends. I can agree to disagree with people who acknowledge the validity of my point of view.
But I did have a FB friend who was a complete asshole (he comments on my posts ALL THE TIME but refuses to consider my POV, shoots down everything I say and forces his worldview on me). And this is somebody I used to know in real-life- let's just say he's in a position where I am supposed to respect him as a role model. I eventually unfriended him. I did feel bad about it afterwards but at the end of the day, I feel if removing someone from your friends' list helps eliminate negativity and drama from your life, then I would.
And this is also where I'd agree with you- you can bring a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. Guess I learned the hard way too.
Hello Delia and thanks for your comment. Oh we don't always have to agree with each other - that would make the world a very boring place if we all did and I am always happy to chat with people like you who are able to raise your objections in a civilized, respectful and polite manner: I do enjoy responding to your comments and you sound like a very intelligent person I can have meaningful conversations with: and that's the kind of social interaction I enjoy.
DeleteAnd you're always welcome here to come and chat with me (and the other regulars), you're amongst friends here. I know of people like that guy you've had to unfriend - sigh, what can you do?!
Delia, your account of friends that you had to unfriend does remind me of something. I would never talk again with those secondary school classmates who sat around me in class decades back, even if the chance presents itself. Never mind that we used to be friends eons ago, but in real life if we ever met, whatever they said about me right now and a few years back were not flattering stuff to begin with, and if there were anything good that I had done in the way of achievements, they would be quick to shoot it down immediately. One wonders what their motives are for being like that, especially if we all change so much and the shy and reserved person they knew since secondary school has changed.
DeleteMy point is this, some people just do not learn respect, and even if you try teaching them respect, they will trample all over it. That friend of yours is probably not worth it even if he is supposed to be in a position for you to "respect" and "look up to" him. I agree with what Alex had to say about the horse which you cannot force to drink the water even if you bring it to the water. Some people will never learn.
Hi Kevin, with regard to what that Facebook friend is like in real life...I shan't comment further about that here. :)
DeleteBut I really agree with you about ex-friends shooting you down- why do these people have to do that? Does it bother them so much that others want to improve and make their lives mean something? I have grown out of friends like that before, and if they have nothing further to add to my life other than cynicism and negativity, sorry, off my friends list they go.
It probably has a lot to do with the tall poppy syndrome: when someone or something stands out like a tall poppy among a bed of flowers, mow it down even if it means killing that plant indirectly. I watched an episode of this American show, "Dr Phil", and he made a point that strangely stuck with me: sometimes, those whom we view as friends or family might not actually want the best for us for certain reasons.
DeleteI am with Kevin. It is very tempting to tell the idiots to shut their faces. However, you were right to focus your engery on your friend who is going to have surgery. I believe Vince has already made his stand. Let the homophobes wallow in self-righteousness. We can'r save them all.
ReplyDeleteOn one hand, I wanted to give Vince a chance to air his views to a wider audience, but doing so would also give those homophobes more attention as well at the same time. And it was not like they even had a leg to stand on - it was just vile, name-calling nasty homophobia that was just bare hatred: there wasn't any attempt to try to make an intellectual argument or even use proper English to make their points.
DeleteI respect Vince's decision and believe that it was the right one.
I agree with you Limpeh, it's simply futile to argue with those narrow minded guys, no matter how logical and nicely worded your explanations may be. I myself have tried to engage those intolerant fools multiple times, only to get shot off with expletives or quotations from the Bible touching on the fate of the Sodomites. At this point (being a free-thinker), I try to make a somewhat nasty rebuttal on the 'accuracy' of the good book but stopped myself for fear of hurting the sentiments of my moderate Christian friends.
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree that there are some people who are really very mean and vicious online. They like to use condescending words and slam people with their words, even though they are just asking for advice...Like, when someone does badly for o levels, they will say stuff in a very harsh manner, as opposed to giving advice. Ie. JC vs Poly.....The thread starter might say....I still wish to go to a JC....but the forummers may put the TS down in a very negative way.....and argue about why he is unsuitable for a JC....
ReplyDeleteAlso, there are some judgemental people in this world, including some close friends. They just like to put other people down, and try to win an argument, no matter what. Sometimes, they are very very conservative, and they might impose their views on us....and it gets very tiring......Ie. Dressing, going to clubs etc.
My honest take on the issue:
ReplyDeleteI am a Christian but I have homosexual & bisexual friends.I even encountered a transvestite whilst travelling across Europe.
Just because you have a different lifestyle choice from others DOESNT entitle you the right to shove your opinion onto others and brand it as the absolute truth.
The whole idea about democracy is that ppl with different viewpoints arguing in a SENSIBLE and reasonable manner.Really felt sorry for Vince.
Thats why the majority of Singaporeans(55-60%) tend to vote for the PAP in every single election cos they dont have the courage stand up for democracy.Instead they look up to intolerance & extremist views as a way to protect themselves in an ever changing world. Such thinking is clearly laughable in more matured democratic nation states.
It might be pointless for me to say this but I hope that Singaporeans change this horrible mindsets of theirs or "be drowned" by the constantly changing world around them.