Tuesday 21 January 2014

Anton Casey's apology and response/follow up.

Okay is this a hot topic or what? Time for a quick follow up - I'm in the middle of my working day but I could not resist posting this. Anton Casey has issued a public apology on Sgtalk.

Dear sir,
For your immediate publication on SgTalk:

I would like to extend a sincere apology to the people of Singapore. In the past 24 hours due to a recent chain of events, which include my misguided attempt at humour, a security breach of my personal Facebook page and the misuse of an old video by unknown sources, my family, especially, my five-year-old son has suffered extreme emotional and verbal abuse online. 

It must be made extremely clear that a YouTube video of me, with my son in the background was not posted in response to any recent events. This video was made weeks prior and has been misused to portray me as unrepentant. Police investigation into this matter, including receiving death threats, is ongoing. I have offended and disrespected the people of Singapore, my family - especially my five-year-old son. He is an innocent party to this unfortunate and extremely stressful situation. I wish for nothing more than to be forgiven for my poor judgement and given a second chance to rebuild the trust people had in me as a resident of this City – specifically for my family. 

Regards,
Anton S Casey
What do you guys think? Do you think that he is sincerely sorry or is he apologizing to try to protect his son and wife from further abuse and harassment? It can be pretty extreme - death threats, good grief. By all means criticize Anton Casey if you want and judge him by what he has said and done - but to drag his disabled son into the matter is simply too low. I have found too many cruel remarks by Singaporeans on social media mocking his disabled son and I'm like really? Is that how low you Singaporeans will stoop - will you attack and mock a disabled young child? That makes you guys far worse than Anton Casey.

Leave his son alone.

Personally, I feel sorry for him because I know what it is like to be the victim of a vicious hate campaign, where people you don't know suddenly lash out at you. In my case, this was when I gave an interview to the BBC last year about why I left Singapore for the UK and oooh boy, what followed was unreal. I would get thousands of hits on my Linkedin page from Singaporeans and even my sister received thousands of hits on her Linkedin page - now my Linkedin page is in the public domain, like my blog.  But there's an element of lr lang jiat pa boh tai tji chor si boh? ("are you guys really so bored?") to it, it takes the Hokkien concept of boh liao to whole new level. I would love it if these people just came to my blog and engaged me here - but they prefer to make up crazy shit about me. Where do I begin? How does one even begin to respond to people like that? 
Social media is double edged sword... it gives idiots the right to be heard as well.

That is why Anton Casey is in an impossible situation now - the people who hate him do not even know why they are hating him, who he is, what he does for a living, why he has a job in Singapore etc. They are just looking for a scapegoat to vent all their anti-foreigner xenophobic hatred on and Anton Casey became the perfect scapegoat. You see, these people are not just angry with this one man - no, this is an excuse for them to vent all of their anger and frustrated. Casey is but the last straw the broke the camel's back - hence his silly comments on social media have triggered such a disproportionately large hate campaign against him. I find the whole situation rather ludicrous because Singaporeans (well at least 60.14% of the electorate) have to accept responsibility for allowing this situation to happen in the first place when they voted for the PAP, knowing what the PAP's stance is on foreign talents.

So what are you Singaporeans going to do about this? Are you simply going to keep quiet about the situation until the next time a last straw break the camel's back again and you then vent all your hatred on the unfortunate scapegoat? Or can we at least try to channel this into a sensible, rational, dignified discussion overcrowding or about the place of FTs in Singapore and have a calm and mature debate about the issues that have made so many Singaporeans angry? Because all I hear right now is a cacophony of hysteria and a lot of people shouting, kao beh kao bu, buay song Angmoh, but very few people actually willing to be constructive about the situation. That's disappointing to say the least. A hysterical reaction can never lead to a constructive solution and achieves nothing more than venting one's anger but after you've shouted yourself hoarse, the problem is still not solved.
Can you resist the urge to be antagonistic and opt to be constructive instead?

What I hate about this ridiculous nature of these online hate campaigns is the way Singaporeans rarely verify the facts before they lash out. Good grief. If you are going to make a criticism, at least know what you're criticizing - don't just make shit up on the spot. But no, many Singaporeans simply jump to the wrong conclusions rather than verify their facts - they do not seem to care if they discredit themselves in the process when it is evident just how salah they are in jumping to the wrong conclusions.

Let me give you an example in the Anton Casey case. Some Singaporeans have accused him of coming to Singapore to 'steal' a job that a local Singaporean can do and that if he left Singapore, a Singaporean could do his job at Crossinvest. That is simply NOT true. I have already explained that Anton Casey works in a very niche market area of wealth management for expatriates - he would be serving the wealth management needs of British expatriates in Singapore rather than the locals. A rich British expatriate in Singapore would not hand their money over to a Singaporean wealth manager - no, they will only deal with someone from their own country (sounds very un-PC but that's just the way this industry is.) Even if you do force him out of Singapore through sheer violence and death threats, guess who will take his job? Another British expat - not a local.
Can just about anyone do Anton Casey's job? Asian, white or alien?

I am beginning to see a convergence - there is at least a few wealth management company in Singapore who have a more international approach. Let's look at one in the Telok Ayer area for example: they have a very international team and I am so impressed with their approach. They have a British director to deal with British expats, a French director to deal with French expats, an Indian director to deal with Indian expats and a local Singaporean-Chinese director to deal with local Singaporean-Chinese clients etc -you get the idea. So in the boardroom, the directors all share their investment strategies but at the customer-facing front, the client is always talking to someone of the same nationality (yup, that seems crucial in this industry, rich people tend to only trust a private banker from their own country). This is a new trend in Singapore, not many companies are like that. Most of the others are fairly specific: they usually only deal with either only expats or only locals but rarely both. Anyway, I digress. That's the Singaporean wealth management market for you, one that I know rather well given my experience in it with my previous job.

So that is why hounding Anton Casey out of Singapore will not create a new job for a local Singaporean given the nature of this industry. This is simply because a rich white British expat will never choose a local Chinese Singaporean wealth manager and a rich Singaporean towkay will never trust a foreign wealth manager like Anton Casey to handle his money - regardless of how advanced banking has become in 2014, some of the clients' old habits die hard and some attitudes will take a long time to change.
Not all aspects of wealth management are high tech!

The fact is Anton Casey has apologized and has shown remorse - it is time to put the case in perspective. When someone says something stupid on social media, it can be embarrassing, inappropriate or even offensive, the key thing is that it is not criminal. Here's a concept that you guys have to get your head around: the freedom of speech. Anton Casey has the right to say whatever he wants and you have the right to respond. However, for the person who wants him banished from Singapore as a result of this, like get freaking real you people: what law has he broken by offending you with his brash words? Grow a set of balls and deal with it you wuss, you don't like what the Angmoh says, you reply and give as good as you get. You don't go running to the primary school teacher and ask the teacher to do something about it. What a totally pathetic response. Alamak.

Whilst I am on the warpath, allow me to respond to a few of the threads on EDMW - I am just embarrassed at the average level of IQ displayed by the people there. Like seriously, I am from Singapore and I thought Singaporeans were a bit smarter than that. So if you're ready, let's deal with some of the more ridiculous issues raised.
The supposed "CSI" of Crossinvest's CEO Christophe Audergon: Big deal, that's information that's in the public domain anyway. In any case, he doesn't give a damn what you ordinary Singaporeans think, not unless you are either a client or are in a position to influence his super-rich clients. Crossinvest provides wealth management services for HNWIs - thus by definition, they are dealing with such a niche market that excludes 99% of the population of Singapore. They don't need to bother with what ordinary people like you think - they only have to serve their clients well. Tough shit if you're not rich, such is life. It ain't fair. You can email the CEO till the cows come home, it won't make the slightest bit of difference.

Q: Why would a millionaire go to a small firm like CrossInvest rather than a big private bank like UBS or Credit Suisse? (Asked by many people in different threads.)

A: Simple. It is the quality of the relationship at the end of the day - they provide the same kind of service. Let me give you an analogy. When you go on holiday, you can choose to stay in a hotel that is as huge as Marina Bay Sands or Atlantis The Palm in Dubai, or you can go for a very small boutique hotel. The boutique hotel is very exclusive and very small - but the service is usually extremely personal, the suites are catered specifically to the requests of the guest and at the end of the day, you only need to one hotel room/suite. Whether there are another 8000 or 8 rooms in the hotel is quite irrelevant to the quality of your experience because as a guest, you are only occupying one room at a time. By the same token, whether your bank has 10 million customers or 10 customers makes little difference to the kind of banking experience you have. Indeed, when dealing with a smaller operation, it can feel a lot more personal and some people prefer that experience. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better in this world.
The quality of your hotel experience doesn't depend on the size of the hotel.

Q: Why doesn't Bernice divorce Anton over this?

A: LMFAO. None of your business, but the bottom line is that they are married with a kid. When you choose to marry someone, you stick with them through thick and thin, through good times and bad. When your spouse makes a mistake, you stand by them and help them get through that difficult patch, rather than desert them the moment there is any hint of trouble. Let's put it this way: what if you made a silly mistake today and all your friends react by deserting, pretending they don't know you or condemning you. Would such a scenario actually happen? Or would you close friends be there for you and help you deal with whatever problems you may have or whatever trouble you may face? Duh. Some of these Singaporeans don't understand the most basic nature of human relationships - that just makes me think they will never ever help anyone of their friends or family members who may get into trouble.

Q: How much does Anton earn to afford his lifestyle (Porsche, Condo etc)?

A: I can't comment on how much he earns personally - I have no idea, I can only talk more generally about how IFAs/brokers/wealth managers in general make money. It is very lucrative and you can earn a lot of money once you are successful. They are the middlemen between the rich people and the fund managers - let me give you an example.
We have three characters here: Mr Rich (the rich millionaire) , Mr Wealth (someone who manages the wealth of rich people) and Mr Fund (who represents the fund management companies, looking for investor). Mr Fund goes to Mr Wealth and says, "hey Mr Wealth, please invest your clients' money with me, I have great rates of return for my fund!" Mr Wealth turns around and says, "there are so many good funds out there, why should I pick yours over everyone else?" So Mr Fund offers Mr Wealth a very good deal, if Mr Wealth hands over $100,000 of Mr Fund's money from his portfolio, then $95,000 goes into the fund and Mr Wealth pockets $5,000 instantly the moment he signs on the dotted line. As the fund is expected to make in access of 5% a year, Mr Fund doesn't mind the initial hit it takes when Mr Wealth takes his cut, knowing that the long term return on the fund would guarantee that Mr Rich will see a positive return on his initial investment of $100,000 after a few years.

On top of taking a 5% cut the moment the investment is made, Mr Wealth probably charges Mr Rich a standard fee for his wealth management services (which won't be cheap) and that's not the end of it. To prevent Mr Wealth from withdrawing the fund and repeating the exercise with Mr Fund's closest rival (and taking another big cut), Mr Fund offers Mr Rich a retainer's fee of 0.5% of the total amount that remains invested with the fund for each calender year the money stays invested in the fund.
In short, Mr Wealth earns most of his money from Mr Rich but is also constantly paid by Mr Fund as well to keep the money invested. What a lucrative position to be in - the middlemen is being paid by both parties he is liaising with. So Mr Wealth is in such a good position to make money because he is being paid huge amounts of money to make investment decisions on behalf of his clients and he always gets a cut. Now the figures of 5% cut and 0.5% retainer's fee are typical of what some IFAs do - the actual size of the cut and the retainer's fee do vary. At the end of the day, Mr Wealth must make sure that his cut is not so big that Mr Rich sees his initial capital dwindling down after Mr Wealth takes his cut - it's not just a pot of gold that Mr Wealth can help himself to. There is still an element of skill involved - he still has to pick the right funds to deal with in order to make sure he grows Mr Rich's capital enough to allow himself a generous cut whilst still keeping Mr Rich very satisfied with the state of his portfolio. As long as he can do that, the potential to make an obscene amount of money is there. The best wealth managers have rich clients with portfolios that have seven or eight figures. So imagine if Mr Wealth makes an investment for Mr Rich that is worth 1 million dollars, his 5% cut is $50,000 - just like that. Now imagine if he makes a few of those decisions a month and you do the maths.

And that's why people like Anton Casey can buy a Porsche. He doesn't need to borrow the money at all - he is in a very lucrative job. Now even I wish I had a job like Anton Casey's - instead, I am but a humble marketing strategist who doesn't earn as much even though I work in finance too. Speaking of which, I'd better get back to work. Leave a comment below if you have any more questions, okay? Ciao, thanks for reading.
Update, part 4: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/lmfao-singaporean-petitions-anton.html
Part 5: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-sedition-act-and-anton-casey.html
Part 6: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-british-reaction-to-anton-casey.html
Part 7: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/a-very-hollow-victory-for-singaporeans.html

48 comments:

  1. Agreed at LMFAO - more incredulous than anything at such an idea.

    Honestly, this whole debacle has been entertaining for me. One- yes, we are wusses. Imagine him saying this in London, he'll be well beaten up by now. Singaporeans? Take it online! Complain! Until he loses his job! Uh, ok. Can. Sure. Next please.

    2. Stink? I must say it does stink sometimes.. especially with people who are challenged in the hygiene department parking themselves upwind.

    I did wonder if his comments could be the droll brit humour at work - which eludes most of us, me included till I got used to it.

    Before someone labels me as an SPG (as i saw happened to a poor girl who said her angmoh friends feel disgusted over this matter), I'm managed remotedly from UK, most of my team is in London, I have 2 brit colleagues sitting next to me. So there.

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    1. Let me response to him saying this in London (I live in London and hold a British passport) - he won't be beaten up. People say shit like that all the time. They're most likely to be ignored. Oh please, we have such a class-conscious society with the rich looking down on the poor here - the only reason why this is a big deal in Singapore is because he is an Angmoh expat and many Singaporeans have a lot of pent up frustration towards the expatriates in Singapore - Casey became a convenient scapegoat.

      Singaporeans also have a very childish mentality when it comes to reacting to shit like that - they want justice and revenge, they expect the government to do something. Whereas in the UK, I think people are more tolerant and will be far less likely to react; if it is a criminal matter, fine call the police. If not, then respond if you wish but it won't be news. British people are culturally very different from you Singaporeans and that's why I find the Singaporean mentality quite pathetic at times because you're simply not dealing with the situation in a practical and constructive way - you're venting your anger, often in broken English and Singlish as if it is somehow funnier if you write in broken English. Liddat funny one meh? Where got funny lah.

      And no, unless you weren't reading closely - he WON'T lose his job. Not in his industry because he is NOT serving Singaporeans - his clients would be entirely British expats.

      His humour sucks. It's not British. It's just crass. He wrote some dumb shit and he is now regretting it.

      If you do have British colleagues, then tell them about this incident and ask them if Anton Casey would be beaten up in London - they'll tell you that if he said it online, there would be no consequences. But if he went round insulting strangers to their faces in public, then that's a different matter.

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  2. If I were Anton, I'd be a lot less apologetic. However, he does have to walk the streets daily. I wouldn't care if he were sincere or not. The man apologized. What more do people want? I hope they drop it. I had no idea the child was disabled. LEAVE THE KID ALONE! Singaporeans have said and done worse things aboard. Their lack of manners and comments about white people have not gone unnoticed by poeple overseas. Perhaps Anton spoke the truth that was too hard to accept because deep down they know it is true. The trains can be unpleasant. Because he is rich, white, and has a hot wife, people feel inadequate about their own lives. He is living the dream, and they are not, so they decide to lash out. And yes, perhaps he IS better endowed. If he were, so what? P---- envy?

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    1. Well Di, I have been monitoring a lot of the responses on social media to his apology and many of them accuse him of making an insincere apology, that he isn't sorry and that someone (his wife? his boss?) scripted this for him and made him issue the statement. Did he think that the Singaporean public were going to accept his apology? Nah, that was never gonna happen - the only thing for him to do now is to lie low until Singaporeans get distracted by another scandal. Remember how Steph Koh is now last week's news?

      So by that token, what's the point of making this grovelling apology if it's hardly going to make any difference? By that token, at least Steph Koh ended her Youtube video with a big fuck you to her haters - she has balls, that woman. I like her!

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    2. I have been following the responses online as well. Yes, I am ashamed of my guilty pleasure. I have no life. Anyway, I am disgusted by the stupidity of the citizens and the bad English they used to berate Anton. Sure, I think he's arrogant, but I stand by his right to air his views. How very childish to fault him for that. You are right, in England they would not care. Nor in Canada. Not unless he is in politics or a high public servant job. Or a big time celebrity like a famous hockey player. So, the guy does not think much of public transport, SO WHAT? Anyone or everyone who disses Singapore or its stupid citizens must face public persecution? How very dictatorial. "I dictate that you do not voice your opinions!" Anton is just another bloke with a Singapore PR. Who cares? He would have told her haters to go f-off too if he did not have a wife or a child. Having a family makes you think twice. SKoh has little to lose coz she is young and single.

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    3. Oh you and I are so on the same wavelength - ditto that about no one would care in the west unless he's some big shot. Anton Casey is not a big shot, so why should we care what stupid crap he spouts? Do we wanna go down the road and start holding every idiot accountable for the crap they spout? What a pointless exercise, there's no law against stupidity. It's just that Anton Casey is white - that's why he's being singled out in Singapore, duh. You see Di, you and I live in Angmohland, we are so used to being surrounded by Angmohs everyday, it's really no big deal, we get over that and the way Singaporeans treat Angmohs differently... it's like, what's the big deal? They're humans too you know.

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    4. If we were to deport people for ungentlemanly conduct, then our population would be halved. But Anton Casey is quite naive to be messing with the poor on social media. You just don't do that anywhere in the world. While the responses have been harsh, I cannot help but think that the bloke had it coming. I do not think it has anything to do with the lad being an Angmoh. Just a case of a rich brat. so detached to the common ground that he needed a rude awakening. This is just the public responding. If he has to leave the country, then so be it. It was just one time too many for one of his friends who screen-grabbed it on Facebook.

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    5. Hahahahaha so true! The moral of the story is: it's time to cull your FB friends...

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    6. Let me ask you, if you saw one of your FB friends do something stupid like that, would you:

      A) Do a screen shot, circulate it on social media, knowing that you will get your friend into big trouble
      B) Speak to your friend about it, explain to him why he is making a mistake and get him to take it down, thus avoiding trouble

      If you have 'friends' who choose option A, then who needs enemies when you have friends like that? Aiyoh.

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    7. Option A might have been someone who just had enough. Someone who was once a friend and has now become a hater. We'll never know. Pretty sure people have told him to ease up on the crap. We can never beat the Internet with all our private settings, however we can sometimes just choose to not put a bad joke on social media. The backlash for shallow commentary isn't worth it.

      Yes to Freedom of Speech and another big Yes to Freedom to be Intelligent. Thats why I like Steph Koh. She's gutsy and she's definitely got a working brain. Even with the press against her, she has won the support of alot of Singaporeans.

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    8. Well, I once found myself in such a situation where I said something about a problem at work and my buddy Bryan messaged me and said, "I don't think it's appropriate for you to discuss things pertaining to your employer so publicly like that on FB. Maybe I am being too cautious here but you don't wanna get into trouble. If you need someone to talk about work stuff, if you need a listening ear, just gimme a shout, I am here for you."

      So that's how one of my friends would react - one only wonders who made this public and if Anton Casey is aware of which one of his friends made this go public. Oh dear.

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    9. Honestly, I saw the postings via people back in Singapore. As much as I find Anton Casey's wife unattractive (sorry, that is my point of view....), I seriously COULD NOT CARE LESS about what he said, and whether he apologizes or not. Seriously, Singaporeans are all asking the wrong questions, and doing the wrong things, and reacting in the wrong way. This is so totally a storm in a teacup. When the Wild Rose Party in Alberta, Canada, said all a bunch of redneck stuff which bordered on sexism, racism, and gender discrimination, of course everyone with a decent sense of propriety in Alberta reacted, but Anton Casey is just an entitled white man with an Asian wife who is a former beauty queen stating what he said and would have said from a class-entitled perspective. Nobody would care about what he says in Canada, and neither would they care in the western world.

      Stephanie Koh had guts to say what she believed, and only the insecure Singaporeans in the country--especially men who feel responsible for upholding some 'national image'(ya right...) or prissy women--are reacting to her with vitriol. So, well, we can figure out how shallow Singaporeans are, getting angry about people who merely state the truth when they should be ANGRIER at this current government they elected into power to screw themselves up over and over again!?!? Seriously, this is BEYOND me.

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    10. Yup like I said, it's beyond me too. Then there are all of these people who are pointing out at Law Miniser Shanmugam weighed in on the issue today (to score political points of course) - when they should be thinking about how we landed ourselves in this position in the first place. Singaporeans can be so short-sighted really.

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  3. I read an article saying that Anton Casey can get arrested under the Sedition Act. Can he really be charged under this act and is there a similar act in the UK?

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    1. Bullshit. The Sedition Act is reserved for more serious cases (ref: the Alvivi Bak Kut Teh case, and even then I think that's going too far). I am going to have to do a follow up to this and will write about this in more detail. What Anton Casey said is dumb, but there's no law against stupidity and if you're going to arrest him, then by the same token, you're going to have to arrest the thousands of Singaporeans who abused him and his family online.

      There is an act like that in the UK reserved for SERIOUS acts - such as the incitement of violence towards a certain group of people.

      Groan. Whoever wrote that article you read has no idea how the law works. Can you provide a link please?

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    2. Here's the link:http://therealsingapore.com/content/police-did-not-arrest-anton-casey-sedition-because-he-foreign-talent
      And yes, I know TRS is not generally a reliable source of information but they do have some great writers occasionally

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    3. Thanks v much for this Ron, I will read and respond. I'm afraid The Real Singapore has failed once more - I must speak to Remy about this. I know he has a tough balancing act between reflecting the real voices of real Singaporeans (hence the name TRS) and publishing good articles. Like clearly, this is a shit article written by an bodoh goondu idiot. I read it and laughed at just how fucking stupid the writer is. Seriously Ron, such is the nature of the internet - it is giving fucking stupid idiots the right to voice their opinions online, just like smart people alike and it is up to us to make sure we exercise judgment as to whether the writer makes sense or is a fucking idiot.

      In this case, TRS has got the balance wrong - or has it? If there are a lot of Singaporeans who hold this extremely salah view... can they reflect it without me accusing them of publishing an article clearly written by an idiot?

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    4. I do know a great article when I see one, but the problem is that when it is not great, I can't really tell whether the article is normal or bad

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    5. Well Ron, it's time to exercise your judgement and be a lot more careful about what you read on the internet for there is a lot of misleading information on bad websites out there.

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  4. What took place took place because he was living in a place where people had a keen sense of civic duty – which is probably a concept that bankers might have a problem understanding.

    Now let’s look at the facts.
    1. He posted really obnoxious pictures on facebook.
    2. There was another youtube of him trolling people. OK, it was not in reference to this incident, but nobody is saying that it is not a true reflection of his point of view.

    Singapore is special in that everybody takes public transport. Like NYC or London or wherever else the bankers have fucked up with sky high real estate. He could have been used to other places where there’s a higher percentage of tramps on the buses and subways.

    So he thought what he thought and said what he said. And a cybermob lynches him. It’s good that you – limpehft - clarify many of the erroneous statements but this is a lynch mob. Do we do a slow action replay of a lynching and say – here you should have broken his fourth rib instead of his third rib, you should have punctured his lung there instead of kicking him in the head? No, all those crazy remarks are blurred and indistinct, you’d be crazy to take all of them seriously. But strip that away and you get the truth – people are unhappy about what he said, and they are unhappy at what this tells us about the larger picture, that people like him are a contemptuous bunch.

    Yes, he may be special and talented but he’s not that special that nobody can take away his job. Everybody knows now that he’s an employee of CrossInvest. It might not hurt that Singaporeans think that CrossInvest employees are assholes, but good luck if they want to find Singaporeans to work for CrossInvest. Good luck if the real clientele happens to google CrossInvest and comes across this headline. Not true that no damage is done to the company’s brand. And his employers know that their brand is a little sullied, and that he’s an idiot, whatever that might mean.

    The system works the way that the system works. Somebody steps over the line, and the system punishes him. Maybe it just drives this bigotry underground. But in the long run there is a common understanding that a good person wouldn’t say these things.

    So somebody takes a stick and pokes a hornet’s nest. And then he ends up in hospital. Did he deserve it? Probably not. Is he asking for it? But of course. You don’t want your kids to be bullied at school? Stop being an idiot! Like you said - life is unfair, get used to it.

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    1. Thanks for your comment. A few points for you.

      1. I think S'pore isn't that different from London (PS. I'm from S'pore but lived in the UK since 97 so I am in a good position to comment): in fact Singaporean taxis are cheaper than UK taxis, so it does beg the question by Casey didn't just take a cab if he objected to public transport. Heck, even I take taxis all the time when I am in Singapore because I can afford it and mostly because I find it too hot to walk. I don't quite get your point though on sky high real estate - Singapore is no different from London: it's location, location, location. What you have to pay depends entirely on where in town you choose to live. And as I have pointed out in my first post on the issue, there is the climate factor as well. It's currently about 6 degrees out there in London right now and you don't sweat in winter - you tend to shiver. But in Singapore, you sweat everyday cos it's hot everyday. Not being racist, just commenting on the effect that the weather has on all over us: Asian and white alike.

      I am not justifying or condoning what Anton Casey did/said - but the lynch mob reaction is deplorable and does not help the needs of the lynch mob either. How can anyone take a lynch mob seriously? And like I said so many times before: I know you S'poreans are angry but picking on a scapegoat does NOT solve any of the problems you have, you need to think about why you're so unhappy rather than focus on this one scapegoat.

      Oh and Crossinvest is a company that's run by white expats for white expats - I've explained so many times already how it operates in a very niche market area of wealth management in Singapore. They are NOT interested attracting Singaporeans (you're wrong wrong wrong) - they hire white expats like Casey, not locals. The boss is Swiss, not S'porean. The clientele is most certainly NOT S'porean. They are expats in S'pore. They do not find new clients through Google (for crying out aloud), they find new clients through word of mouth mostly within the expat community.

      Do you even know what CrossInvest does?

      Like I said, please feel free to respond and have your say, but do yourself a favour and know what the facts are (such as understanding what kind of company Crossinvest is) so you have more credibility.

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    2. Anton who works as a wealth manager have more than enough money. What to do with it? Blow it on luxury items, luxury homes and marry a beautiful woman. Money has granted him everything any Singaporean man ever wanted: A beautiful house, an expensive car, a beautiful wife and children of his own.

      But unfortunately, no amount of money is going to save his public image this time around. No amount of money blown on consulting PR firms and the lawyers will help him. This is the nature of the internet, the moment you upload something, it stays there forever.

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    3. Ah Luck, I think we've talked about this in the past.

      This makes an interesting case study for you my friend.

      Remember what we said about not trying to please everyone, believing in yourself, not holding yourself ransom to everyone else's opinion? Try applying it in this case: you're trying to influence Anton Casey with the fact that you don't like him and you want him to know that you have a bad impression of him - now whether he allows you to drag his self-esteem down is up to him. How is this is different from the guy in your CCA who was mean to you, except this time, you've decided that you have reason to make someone you don't know feel bad about himself?

      Don't go down this path Luck. Because you will be very frustrated should you be unable to achieve what you want - instead, focus on yourself and being good to yourself, building yourself up - rather trying to destroy others.

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    4. I know you're from Singapore. I even went to the same school as you. Duh. What I meant was, Singapore is special in that people from a great range of socio-economic status take public transport, as opposed to say the US.

      I heard what you said the first time around why don't you read what I actually wrote. Maybe the expats will be wondering "if he can't even protect himself why the fuck do I want him protecting my money"

      It's also pretty absurd for you to be saying that "Singaporeans shouldn't do this". They are going to do what they're going to do. If you really believe that the land prices can't help but go up because human nature is set in stone that it stands to reason that Casey can't help but be lynched because human nature is set in stone.

      How can anybody take a lynch mob seriously? Why don't you gather 100 expats together and ask for one of them to do an exact re-enactment of what Anton Casey did, and see how many of them will volunteer? Sometimes you try to earn respect by giving somebody a nice and safe home. And if that doesn't work, maybe beating the shit out of him might help.

      This really isn't only about Anton Casey. This is about killing the chicken to scare the monkey.

      Also your point about not holding yourself ransom to everybody else's opinion - lynch mobs are what they are because they don't give a shit either. These things work both ways.

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    5. I agree that this gaff on his part was a huge lapse of judgment - no doubt about that! But maybe I am playing the devil's advocate here, I will always judge a man by his track record, rather than one mistake. This is also in part because I am a gymnast and have been for decades: I can see a great gymnast like Svetlana Khorkina crash and burn on a bad day, land on her butt and finish last - but I would judge her by what she is capable of in the long run and her track record, rather than write her off just because she had a bad competition once. I'm sure if I approach it as reasonably like that - you'll find it hard to disagree, or are you a lot more harsh in judging people than that?

      As for lynch mobs, my point is that venting their anger on a scapegoat isn't going to solve any of the problems that have made them so angry in the first place.

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    6. This is the second incident in a row which has made the elites reconsider about Singapore being "absolutely safe". First one was the kidnap of the Sheng Siong CEO's mother. I don't want this place to be crime ridden, I'm just not comfortable with this being a place where these people hide away and do whatever they want. No safer or more dangerous than other places is fine by me.

      Well this guy has a track record. First, there was the "get angry with your mum and dad for raising you a wuss" video. Then the fb posts about the MRT which were circulated. Then the "apology". I'll let Alfian (remember him?) take over: "Everything about him is real. Except his 'apology', which was issued through a PR agency. Not much contrition was expressed, but there was tactical use of blame-shifting (apparently there was a 'security breach' of his FB account), human shields ('my family and especially my Singaporean son have suffered') and a me-victim sob story ('extreme emotional and verbal abuse online.') I suggest he get another PR agency, and then maintain their services to help run all his social media accounts. For life. When you have rock-bottom EQ and lots of money, that's the very least you can do." OK there's not enough time for him to really change his world view, this is only one day. So apparently he's fled from this island for a few days, and he can go and do a bit of thinking. There are other glitzy photos of him and while there's nothing wrong with glitzy photos per se it adds to the picture. They say you can tell more about a person from reading his fb profile - given that he's shared photos with you - than you can tell by meeting him in person.

      So to me he's an asshole. Now for some speculation: what kind of world does he live in, where he has all these views and doesn't realise that he's being a dick?

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    7. LMFAO. Listen, I actually agree with you that Anton Casey is a frightfully unpleasant person (not to mention all the other things, ref low EQ), but comparing this to kidnapping an old lady?! Are you nuts? Now kidnapping an old lady and holding her for ransom is downright illegal and criminal - if it happened to my mother or your mother, then we'll be reporting it to the police and we hope the kidnappers will be caught, dealt with by the law and sent to jail for a long time. But good grief, what grievous nasty crime is Anton Casey guilty of? Hurting your tender feelings about being a person who uses public transport? Is that criminal? Sure what he said was offensive and uncalled for (etc etc), but it is not criminal. How you could even compare the two incidents is beyond me cos you do seem reasonable on the surface but you then come up with something like this.

      Yes he's an asshole, a dick or whatever you wanna call him - but is he a criminal? No he isn't. It isn't a crime to be a an unlikable person like that - it just renders you very unpopular and surely that's punishment enough for someone like him at this stage because he has not broken any law.

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    8. I have to admit that I was pretty annoyed after learning about the behaviour of this jerk. But I now find the behaviours of our own folks are converging to his after I reminded myself of this well-known verse:

      "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7

      We've all been a jerk ourselves on and off in our life and, thankfully for most of us, are not at a grand scale as Casey has somehow achieved.

      Come on, fellas, let's move on!

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    9. Well Jimmy. There's no doubt that Casey has been a real jerk but what I am amazed is the way Singaporeans have taken it upon themselves as the moral police to chastise and punish Casey. Good grief. Why can't they target someone who is a real villain, like President Assad of Syria instead? Casey is a jerk but he is harmless at the end of the day - he just makes really annoying remarks on social media, but then again, if you wanna arrest and jail every single idiot in Singapore who spouts stupid shit on social media, all the prisons in S'pore would be full by now!

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    10. LIFT, I know you're a very busy person with so many people commenting on this affair but your reading comprehension is atrocious.

      I wasn't comparing the kidnapping case to Anton Casey. I was comparing it to the netizens' reaction to Anton Casey. Not going to repeat what I wrote because it's still there.

      Anyway you said that this sort of lynching only happens in Singapore. If you have any time or inclination you might want to read this account of how somebody managed to mobilise people all over the web to work together on something. This took place in 2006 so summoning a digital lynch mob is nothing new.

      http://engl3220.wikispaces.com/file/view/Shirky-Here-Comes-Everybody.pdf

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    11. Also check this out: "We are currently investigating the comments made by our employee and will take appropriate action once we are in possession of all the facts."

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/23/banker-singapore-insults

      Akan datang for appropriate action. Personally if I were his boss I would make him put on a dunce cap and sit one corner for the whole day.

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    12. Right on. Casey is not a criminal. Why was he not allowed to mouth off his opiniond about public transportation? I just don't get it. Am I living in the twilight zone?

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    13. In case you haven't noticed 7-8, I have also already posted Chistophe Audergon's statement on the latest article on the case here: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/lmfao-singaporean-petitions-anton.html - but don't hold your breath and assume anything.

      I remember once I made a serious complaint against a computer company who messed up my order and I took it all the way to the top - the CEO himself responded to my inquiry and I had a long chat with him; instant refund, small gift offered to appease me but I wanted more - I wanted to him to sack the employee who messed me around. He stopped short of that and said that, "I know you're upset and let me assure you that I am doing everything I can to put things right. How I deal with my staff however, is a matter of internal inquiry for us right now and I do take such issues very seriously. However, please respect that it is an internal matter for us to resolve." That meant that he was not willing to tell me what he was going to do with this employee - I suspect that you're going to get the same thing with CrossInvest - the CEO has acknowledged the public reaction (probably because the PR agency told him to do so) but has not given any indication that whatever happens next will be made public (or be an 'internal affair' for them).

      And Di - I am on the same page as you here!!! I am not fan of Casey, but I am feeling sorry for him now.

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    14. About that story about demanding somebody be fired, it’s true. It’s not for the customer to decide. There is only one issue on the table: should he continue working for the company. Nothing else matters. Also, it is the company’s decision – nobody else.

      I suppose he’s become a cult figure already, a true Singapore legend, like Xiaxue, Alvivi, Mas Selamat, Nick Leeson, Ma Chi. He’s more famous, way more famous than CrossInvest. Not only famous in Singapore, but also in the UK:
      http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/jan/23/daddy-poor-people-anton-casey-facebook-comments-singapore
      Like if the Real Singapore and TRE feature him, no big deal. But the Guardian – wow. Also, the Guardian is left leaning, which should explain why most of the comments are anti-Anton Casey.
      I’ll bet you – CrossInvest will think very hard about what it means to have such a big legend on their payroll. If they feel that he’s still worth it, then good for him. If it makes it impossible for him to keep working, then it’s curtains. It has to do with the nature of his job. Like when they fired Amy Cheong, some thought it was pretty unfair. But she was working in NTUC, working for the government, working in social media. She had to go, because her job required her to be not racist. If Anton Casey is going to meet customers who would be offended by him, it might be a problem. And even if he were only dealing with IT, in some extreme cases (more extreme than Anton Casey), an IT guy was fired for his deeds in the cyberworld:
      http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/infamous_reddit_troll_loses_job_after_gawker_expose/
      CrossInvest might keep him. If they have overseas operations, it might be worth considering posting him there for a few years until he’s forgotten.

      My dunce cap idea is not a terrible idea. Make him dress like a clown, take a picture of him, put it up on Facebook, everybody has a good laugh and moves on.

      Anyway here’s a short and useful guide for what I did NOT say. (But thanks anyway for putting words into my mouth):
      1. Anton Casey is a criminal
      2. Anton Casey ought to be fired / Crossinvest are going to fire him.
      3. CrossInvest’s clientele are Singaporeans.

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    15. In quick response to your points:

      1. CrossInvest's HQ is in Switzerland. Check out http://www.crossinvest.com/

      2. I did speak to a lot of Brits about this case and they are all pretty quick to condemn Casey for his lapse of judgement - whether that means Casey's clients are willing to dump him for another wealth manager, that remains to be seen and would depend on his relationship with them.

      3. Singaporeans will never be satisfied with whatever is done to him - even if his body is found dead floating in Bedok reservoir, why? Because it is not him they're angry with per se, he's a scapegoat for so many things that are wrong with Singapore and they are just using him as a punching bag and everyone who is upset/angry/frustrated/stressed is joining in. You could execute him by a public hanging on Orchard Road and people will still not be ready to move on - why? Because he's just one person, it's one tree in a forest of trees - 2 million trees in fact. There are over 2 million foreigners in Singapore and thousands more to arrive in 2014: you get rid of this one, guess what? There are plenty more just like Anton Casey in Singapore - then what?

      This is why this scapegoat mentality is not helping Singaporeans deal with the reasons as to why they are so angry in the first place.

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  5. Why I am angry with Casey:
    1. I doubt the comments about poor people on the train were uttered by his child. It sounds like it was his words being juxtaposed to the picture of his son. To even imply that your own offspring is capable of making disparaging remarks about individuals less well-off in society is a nasty thing to do, even if the setting was on private and only his immediate circle could see it. I don’t think the child would be happy to read this in the future and appreciate the association made.
    2. If it truly was the child’s remark, then instead of putting it up online, a good father should have taken the opportunity to impart some good values, such as showing compassion for others. Who knows, maybe he did. But that still does not excuse the posting.
    3. The posting of the two pictures side by side is unfortunate, because it sounds like he is saying he needs to wash off the scent of the poor people, and not the public transport, per se. Compare the following statements, if you would (i need to wash the stink of the subway/tube vs. I need to wash the stink of the poor people in NY and London). The latter sounds worse and it’s because the two photos were put next to each other.
    4. Finally, on the issue of free speech. There is a contradiction in your stance. In one post, you highlight the fact that Casey was merely articulating what we all know already. I agree he is, but he is doing so in a juvenile manner. And yet in another post, you lament the fact that trolls are just ranting and screaming at him instead of being constructive (although, as pointed out in yet another post, he is pretty much immune to the public backlash due the nature of his work. This too was undercut by his apology, which seems to suggest that the ranting at least made him contrite in public.) If we are to support the principle of free speech, we need to accept the vitriol, even if it was against the poor lad whose unthinking father has opened to such abuse. If we agree that critique and comments should be done in a civilised and dignified manner, both Casey and the trolls are out of line and should be held to account.

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    1. Thanks for your comment.

      1. I don't think we will know what the child actually said/did - the child is disabled on top of that and my gut instinct is to protect the child from public scrutiny rather than drag the child into this. So it was wrong of Casey to have involved his son in the first place and it is also wrong for anyone responding to attack the child. Leave the kid alone.

      2. I agree - Casey made a mistake here.

      3. He claims it was an attempt at humour that went wrong - can we simply accept that at face value?

      4. I think there are two issues here: sure Casey was articulating what we all know already - but he could have done so in a more tactful manner that would not have caused offence. I have found myself in the same situation recently with another reader of mine when we discussed the issue of suicide and I was guilty of being tactless and insensitive on the issue and I did cross the line with my words - I then apologized, he accepted my apology: he acknowledged that I had made several valid points on the issue but that I could have done so in a far more tactful manner and I did take away a lesson. The whole issue was resolved very amicably, with respect coming from both parties for each other without the whole incident descending into a name-calling exercise. It can be done - and I was just hoping to see a bit more restraint on all parties involved in the Anton Casey case; but when it's a lynch mob vs a scapegoat, then it's quite different from two mature adults having a civilized discussion.

      I never condoned what Casey said - it was a serious lapse of judgement on his part! Good grief, what he said was a mistake as he has rightfully acknowledged. I hope we can all learn a lesson here - but it was evident that he has apologized out of fear: the lynch mob mentality and the effect on his son is... since when has all this been about his son?

      Anyway, the saga continues. I thought it would die down in a few days... but who knows?

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  6. Man makes stupid comments. Many responded with stupid comments. Is it really that surprising?

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    1. It doesn't but does it really matter? Some people say dumb things to get attention because otherwise nobody gives a hoot about them. Why indulge them?

      On a side note, I don't think this is a race matter -- just have any rich man say the same thing. And I'm skeptical if his kid is really affected as he claims. Who lets their young kid read nonsense crap like this online? Which makes things worse since he making use of his kid for sympathy like how he made use of his kid to make a bad joke. Well like you always say, life is unfair. The kid doesn't get to choose his dad. Just too bad.

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    2. Well, I feel bad for the kid as he is clearly disabled and so many people have chosen to make fun of him to 'get back' at Anton Casey. What has the kid done to deserve this? He's innocent (and disabled) - people can say what they want about Casey, but to make fun of the kid crosses the line!

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  7. Limpeh's point very powderful articulation and this limpeh here also agree with you!

    It's a laughable irony when haters, whether Singaporeans or not, play the "self-righteous" card while showing no grace, any tact of chivalry, or even logic. Furthermore, haters seriously suffer a great deal of myopic scope of what reality is as they have been living in a bubble all their lives. (Unfortunately, it applies to a large extent of Singaporeans, or any similar environment, due to obvious reasons.)

    Limpeh, keep on writing. You are logic personified. You have my empathy. Good job!

    Gong Xi Fai Cai in-advance,
    Comrade studying in Estonia

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    1. Woah Estonia! I love Estonia - visited Talinn some years ago and totally loved it. Lucky you.

      Thanks for your comment :) I couldn't agree more with what you said.

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  8. This dude is paying a high price for his silly views and actions and, unfortunately, his wife and the poor child have become collateral damage too.

    But lol, why are we getting so overly upset of being called poor? Being poor is not a crime, a sin nor a disgrace. I've respect for a poor man who has integrity and dignity and none for a rich man who lacks these.

    Keep up your good work, LIFT!

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    1. You know what Singaporeans are like - they are soooooooooo afraid of Angmoh kwa-swuay them, like they have this pathological fear of white people looking down on them. If a Chinese Singaporean made an arrogant statement about poor people, nobody would bat an eyelid. But Anton Casey is white and the people he is commenting on are mostly Asian so if there was ever an excuse for Singaporeans to play the race card.

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  9. I agree with your blog post. This guy, annoyingly obnoxious as he might be, seems like just a target for our pent up frustrations. Singapore used to pride itself on diversity, Im always glad when a foreigner knows about Singapore or has spent some time there working/holidaying. Our tiny island (set in the sea) is recognized, thats great. I think there is a misplaced anger against foreigners. The finance industry breeds and/or attracts a percentage of jerks who are rewarded for aggressive and bullying behavior if coupled with profits. Basically, if you make money for the company and go around acting like an asshole, your daily life can be a place where you get away with being nasty to people and even start enjoying instilling some fear. Im not saying everyone in finance is like that, Im saying some of the most obnoxious people Ive met are in finance or commodities. One of them once told me his client likes having a rowdy `boys night out` ... and he takes them out, paints the town red, spends tons of money letting his client feel like an invincible, powerful partyboy for the night. Part of that sense of power is enjoyed when bullying people or being obnoxious. I dont think it is just the western foreigners who are like that, they are just louder and more visible. My opinion is that companies need to start being more socially and morally responsible. If someone acts like a bull at work all day in the office, and gets treated like a big man because of that, he will continue being like a bull when he leaves. It gets him places, it gets people to give in to his demands. Take that power away and he will probably be less aggressive. Unfortunately I dont think many finance companies care where or how their employees do business, as long as 1) profits are high 2) they dont get the company into legal trouble
    That said, there are obnoxious people everywhere, regardless of industry. But I do believe that SG right now is a haven for finance/commodities types to have a good time. Sure, by all means enjoy life, but a small percentage get carried away and start being becoming really silly and rude, like AC. There are little corporate limits on acceptable behavior, or at least they are not enforced. So if I am a wealthy person in Singapore, and I have business to give to a fund/wealth person, I could make them take me and the friends I want to impress out, open thousands of dollars worth of bottles, and these guys vying for my business will entertain me. Might even go the extra mile to show me they are top dog, and I should invest with them. I doubt the online outrage will cause him to get fired from his job as long as he continues to bring money in. Anyway he is not the root of the problem, there are lots more like him who might be worse, just not on social media.

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    1. Thanks for your comment. Yes you are 100% right - I work in finance and they are not nice people. You want nice people: try social workers, maybe teachers or nurses, but bankers? Ha! Maybe that's why I am so used to it - I don't expect them to be nice, but is that a crime to be rude/obnoxious?

      Everything else in your analysis is spot on - let's see what will happen.

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  10. Maybe we Singaporeans should just move on.

    http://wp.me/pYMOc-kr

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