His/her attitude does illustrate point about Singaporeans - it seems that they are really not willing to stand up for themselves even when presented with what is very clearly a very poor compromise. To illustrate my point to thisismyvoice, I told him/her a little story about a plastic pail from my travels.
"Years ago when I was on holiday, I checked into the guest house only to find that there was a leak - there was this drip, drip, drip coming down from the ceiling. So I marched down to the front desk, complained and the lady came with me to the room and had a look at the leak. She returned two minutes later with a big plastic pail and I asked her if she was going to fix it. And she said, "I am fixing it now, aren't I? I give you a pail." And I said that no, I was not satisfied with just a pail, I was not going to put up with water dripping into a pail in the middle of the room all night long - she had to give me a new room or get someone in to deal with the leak. The pail was simply not good enough - like, was I going to have to empty the pail every few hours? Even in the middle of the night if it kept raining? There was a serious problem and she was not taking my complaint seriously enough - I was not going to be satisfied with some gesture that wasn't going to solve the root of the problem. I was not prepared to compromise on the issue."
This FCF's new website is just a pail in the face of a leak coming through the ceiling - it's not going to fix the problem, you need far more decisive actions to STOP the influx of foreign workers by placing local Singaporeans at an advantage over locals (as in the UK) such as by doubling the foreign worker levy, to discourage employers from using foreign labour and forcing them to use Singaporeans instead. The woman at the guest house didn't take my complaint seriously enough (I gave her hell believe you me, don't mess with me bitch) - and the government isn't taking the locals seriously. The question is: will you Singaporeans have the resolve to give the PAP hell over this, or will you gladly accept the plastic pail in the spirit of "aiyah, plastic pail solution better than no solution at all lah..."
If you are not willing or able to stand up for your rights, then don't be surprised when others take you for granted and walk all over you. If you are willing to fight for your rights, then don't be surprised if others label you a troublemaker. I would gladly be labeled a troublemaker then to suffer in silence - I can live with people disliking me, however, I have also learnt to pick my fights. You could go to Hong Lim Park and scream and shout till the cows come home - those events however, are poorly organized. I have attended them and was sorely disappointed. What does one do then?
In the plastic pail episode, I demanded that I was either given a new room or I am leaving. I haven't already paid for the room and she risked losing my business if she was unable to give me a new room without a leak. She told me that there were no other rooms free and she didn't understand why I wasn't happy to put up with the plastic pail situation, given that other guests in other rooms also had plastic pails in their rooms. I said, "okay, fine, if that's your attitude, I'm out of here and you're not getting my business. I'm taking my money and spending it elsewhere. Bye!"
You know what she said? "You may not be able to find another guest house as nice and as cheap as mine! You don't know if there's any availability! The other guest houses and hotels in town, they'll charge you more!" To which I replied, "I'll take my chances. I don't mind paying more for a nicer room without a leak, because I'm worth it."
Another reader Gary commented, Yes, it does seems like the PAP govt is once again up to its favorite game of wayang. The voters should be prepared to give its politicians hell in 2016 when the scenario you painted materialized.
Well Gary, I beg to differ. The voters already had their chances at the last election to throw the PAP out but they didn't - I don't think they are blind to the problems in Singapore. It is however, this plastic pail mentality that is stopping them from asking for a better solution from the government. They accept the plastic pail solution because they don't believe they deserve to ask for anything better - or that they are blindly placing their trust in the government to give them the best possible solution, so they do not question the cheap plastic pail they are given. They do not entertain the thought that there is a better alternative available than the option they have been given.
Of course, I do recognize that there have been plenty of Singaporeans who would look at the PAP's plastic pail solutions and say, "what is the hell is this? Do they think we're that easily fooled?" Here's an example of someone who isn't fooled by the PAP's plastic pail proposals, my reader Tom posted this comment.
Just to elaborate further on the UK employment rules on hiring foreigners (I also got a job in the UK as a foreigner):
(i) Each employer has a rating akin to our credit worthiness rating, and this rating determines the extent they can or cannot employ foreigners (they are held accountable for each foreign hire). It also determines the number of foreigners the institution/company can employ. So if your employer is one of those private degree awarding schools located in 'who-knows-where' offering courses that are not accredited except in some God forsaken part of the world, your employer will have very little chance in employing foreigners. In contrast to Singapore, you see those dubious private schools employing foreigners left, right, and centre. In the UK, polytechnics turned universities also have less chance of employing foreigners compared to more established and reputable universities.
(ii) Each job advert stipulates two sets of criteria - 'Essential' and 'Desired'. IF a local candidate fulfills ALL the 'Essential' criteria, s/he MUST be employed even if a foreign candidate fulfills the 'Essential' AND 'Desired' criteria. So the employer must make a case that NO local candidates fulfill the essential criteria when the job was advertised for 28 days. In contrast to Singapore, the BEST candidate gets the job regardless of nationality. See the difference?
Lastly, the onus should be on an *independent* body or the govt to assess the authenticity of the qualifications of the foreign candidate NOT the employer. The reasoning is simple - there is a conflict of interest in having the employer do this.
PAP always 'bastardize' all quasi-effective policies from other countries to make them a mockery of an example in Singapore. Look at our labour unions - compare with the labour unions in democratic developed countries. Look at voting in democracies, look at voting in Singapore.
But then, I note that Tom is already in the UK, like myself. We have realized we're in the minority in Singapore and the easiest thing to do is to leave Singapore for greener pastures. As more and more of people like Tom and I leave, those who remain tend to be those who are more than happy to accept whatever plastic pail they are given, this process reinforces the current pattern, keeps the PAP in power because it drives out the very people who oppose the PAP.
(i) Each employer has a rating akin to our credit worthiness rating, and this rating determines the extent they can or cannot employ foreigners (they are held accountable for each foreign hire). It also determines the number of foreigners the institution/company can employ. So if your employer is one of those private degree awarding schools located in 'who-knows-where' offering courses that are not accredited except in some God forsaken part of the world, your employer will have very little chance in employing foreigners. In contrast to Singapore, you see those dubious private schools employing foreigners left, right, and centre. In the UK, polytechnics turned universities also have less chance of employing foreigners compared to more established and reputable universities.
| Both Tom and I work in the UK. |
(ii) Each job advert stipulates two sets of criteria - 'Essential' and 'Desired'. IF a local candidate fulfills ALL the 'Essential' criteria, s/he MUST be employed even if a foreign candidate fulfills the 'Essential' AND 'Desired' criteria. So the employer must make a case that NO local candidates fulfill the essential criteria when the job was advertised for 28 days. In contrast to Singapore, the BEST candidate gets the job regardless of nationality. See the difference?
Lastly, the onus should be on an *independent* body or the govt to assess the authenticity of the qualifications of the foreign candidate NOT the employer. The reasoning is simple - there is a conflict of interest in having the employer do this.
PAP always 'bastardize' all quasi-effective policies from other countries to make them a mockery of an example in Singapore. Look at our labour unions - compare with the labour unions in democratic developed countries. Look at voting in democracies, look at voting in Singapore.
But then, I note that Tom is already in the UK, like myself. We have realized we're in the minority in Singapore and the easiest thing to do is to leave Singapore for greener pastures. As more and more of people like Tom and I leave, those who remain tend to be those who are more than happy to accept whatever plastic pail they are given, this process reinforces the current pattern, keeps the PAP in power because it drives out the very people who oppose the PAP.
So let me finish by asking you a question: what would you do if you were given a cheap plastic pail by the owner of the guest house when there is a leak in the room? Would you be the kind of person who would take the pail meekly and say thank you? Or would you kick up a big fuss, knowing that you might end up leaving and have to find somewhere new to stay for that night? Would the thought of finding alternative accommodation be so daunting that you would put up with the plastic pail? Likewise, would you be prepared to leave Singapore and seek greener pastures elsewhere? Or would that thought be so daunting that you'll gladly put up with the PAP and all their flaws? Would you be prepared to stand up to the PAP and tell them exactly what you think of their plastic pail solutions?
For me, I don't think I am as exasperated with the PAP as I am with the Singaporeans who accept such plastic pail solutions. You already know what I think but I want to know what you think. What would you do in such a situation? Don't be shy now, please leave a comment below and let me know, thank you very much.






A friend who is a member of an opposition party actually told me this thing once when I was basically resigned to the fact that Singaporeans simply do not want change, "Singaporeans have been fed with the idea for too long that the opposition is useless, and hence, even if the PAP is no good and will ruin the whole country, they will still choose to give the places in parliament to the PAP." His stance--which I am rather cynical towards--is to convert as many Singaporeans who are pro-PAP to make them see the truth. Your plastic pail analogy highlights the whole sense of fatalism and even fatal complacency which Singaporeans have basically settled into, when you press them to demand change, with them saying, "What to do?" (an attitude which seriously annoys me so much that I want to scream at these people if not for the fact that I am already out of Singapore, and I have family members who seriously do not see the stupidity of their 'what to do' thinking, especially siblings and their spouses.) Actually, they could have chosen to do something, but by saying that, it means that they do not want to take responsibility. As my friend in the opposition had said himself (no offence to Singaporeans who are still there, if you are a real leader....), "Singaporeans lack real initiative and leadership skills, and want someone else to do what they should be doing." Well, true enough, there are foreigners willing to take just about everything at every level, since they do not really want to fight for their rights. Maybe next time, they could have foreigners in parliament to help them decide what human rights are for them??
ReplyDeleteHa! Kev, have a read of You Xun's piece below - he focuses on one very, very niche area where there aren't enough local chemistry graduates, fair enough, I say, let's get some highly skilled Chinese experts in chemistry over to work in Singapore and we'll roll out the red carpet for them.
DeleteBut we're talking about being selective in our foreign talent policy here - you're telling me the PRCs who drive buses in Singapore have some kinda special talent when they don't even freaking speak English? Duh. Think about how many low-skilled, blue-collared PRC migrants there are in Singapore.
The problem with people like You Xun is that he picks one example to justify the PAP's stance on foreign workers and using his very, very niche example, he focuses on just that one isolated example and ignores the big picture - when this is really the time to look at how the policies of the PAP affect the big picture, how it affects everyone.
... and that is why you and I have fucked off from Singapore in such of greener pastures. Like I said, I am not sure what winds me up more - the PAP or Singaporeans who somehow justify the actions of the PAP using such illogical arguments. Duh.
I did read You Xun's piece below. While it is true that some industries do need foreigners, there is always a double catch to this where these foreigners do not assimilate at all. For example, look at the Pinoys and Pinays who work at Bread Talk. I don't believe for once that many Singaporeans understand them per se, owing to their heavy Tagalog accent, but they make it in via the really lax system of employment used by the ones hiring. As for SBS, well, that is seriously a fore-gone case....those PRCs actually conducted a strike which got me laughing all my way, not so much because I was gloating but because I was musing, "Wow, those PRCs surely know more about human rights and being abused at work than Singaporeans, and spoke up for themselves!" LOL. The funny thing about specialized industries requiring really well-trained foreign talents such as research and so on is that a lot of times, in the universities, they do not always necessarily stay on after a short while. In other words, Singapore does not know how to retain the really good talents, be it foreign or local. The news was talking about the departure of a really well-educated couple from the USA once from the A-Star program, and this couple are by no means the foreign workers who come only to milk the cow for what it is worth too, because they have contributed a lot to research in that department for years. So the culprit to blame--the so-called sacred cow--is still the system.
DeleteI don't know how to explain it, but every time I read news about Singapore, which report the words of the PAP MPs, I just get so angry and pissed. So many decades, and they are still really in denial after losing a few wards. I guess that they did not lose enough so to say then. Hah, maybe Kong Hee can set up City Harvest Party and contest, and maybe he can gain a few GRCs lol? No joke....But like you, the Singaporeans who do not know how to be critical of the PAP and just put up with their bullshit seriously put me off even more....shivers....
Hi LIFT,
ReplyDeleteHaving used to work as a part time service staff in the F&B industry, and now attached to an MNC in the Kent Ridge area for 3 months for my poly Final Year Project (Organic Chem), I already am seeing the bigger picture. Our true value as a local citizen to these companies are for them to fill their quotas and allow for even more foreigners to come in and work. I used to be very biased in my thinking a year or two ago and thought that these entities were all here to compete against us. However, right now, the government is stuck in a gridlock. They have chosen to slowly restrict the inflow of foreigners coming here on work passes. (Found out by chatting with the Indian chemists in my workplace, E Pass is very hard to renew now) If they go too far in restricting foreign manpower, then they risk the possibility of MNCs ,like the one I'm attached to, shutting down here and moving out of Singapore entirely. You do have to consider that industries like the one I'm in (for now) don't have many locals to pick from - there is simply not enough local chemistry graduates for hire. With only a few universities (2 established ones only, in fact), and the ever-increasing number of R&D facilities expanding here, it is easy to see why. It is simply unsustainable. Period.
Either way the government chooses to approach this, the outcome will definitely not be a good one. And that is probably another reason why the government is building more universities as well in the years to come.
Cheers,
You Xun
Hi You Xun, let's put it this way: if I may use the UK as an example. If there is a sector that there is an acute shortage of skilled professionals (eg. nursing - we are forever short of nurses here in the UK), then our British govt would put NURSING on the list of "shortage occupations" which exempts nurses from any kinds of quotas and speeds up the applications of work permits for foreign nurses.
DeleteI don't think anyone is objecting to foreigners who come to Singapore to do jobs that Singaporeans cannot do - as you have described in your case, there are clearly NOT enough Singaporean chemistry graduates, so they have to bring in foreigners to work in R&D - that's fine. It's when companies bring in foreigners even though there are already locals who are willing and able to do the job - but foreigners are CHEAPER than locals (foreign worker levy vs CPF contribution and the local guys you hire may disappear off on reservist just when you are most busy)...
So I think your example is a red herring - because you're focusing on a very niche market where there is clearly a gap in the local labour force to supply a certain kind of skilled professional with a chemistry degree. We're talking about PRCs driving buses - now try to tell me there are not enough Singaporeans who can't drive a bus in Singapore? Why do we need PRCs to drive buses? Answer: they are cheap and it means more profits for the employers if they get cheap labour.
There are soooo many PRCs doing jobs that local Singaporeans can do - and local Singaporeans are sooo pissed off by this ridiculous influx of PRCs. If you can't see that, then open your eyes the next time you encounter a PRC doing a blue-collar job.
If the PRCs in Singapore are highly qualified organic chemistry experts from top Chinese universities, I would gladly roll out the red carpet for them and say huan ying huan ying! But if they are driving buses, then really, Singapore doesn't need migrants like that.
So I implore you, stop focusing on your situation and see the big picture.
Hi LIFT,
DeleteI did not try to justify the PAP's stance on their foreign worker policy, and I never will, do not get me wrong. I hate them as much as you and many other Singaporeans do and it just makes my blood boil when you jump to that conclusion immediately after just 1 comment. Perhaps you might have misunderstood my intentions. I was just trying to offer a more neutral perspective (first hand perspective to be exact) and as you mentioned, a unique example. I mentioned above that the government is stuck in a gridlock - and the whole thing is unsustainable. I'm referring to the current labour market that's completely unsustainable because of the policies. And also as I mentioned above, either way the government chooses to find its way out of this mess, it's going to be screwed up, at the very least for the initial decade, before changes can be felt. As a 19 y.o. local who's been alternating between school and the industry throughout my poly education, I would be dumb not to see the big picture. And by the way, I'm also not planning to spend my working years over here as well. I foresee the market will be too competitive by then that's it's just not worth it anymore.
Sorry work has been so busy I have yet to respond to your comment. All I can say is that I am pleased to read your latest comment and I did misjudge your original comment - you're smarter than I had given you credit for. Good luck trying to find greener pastures.
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ReplyDeleteLike you, this complacent and meek attitude among Singaporeans who often proclaim 'nothing is better than nothing' response to any dumbass-ed solution by the PAP annoys me no end. It is as if Singaporeans are so used to being a beggar begging for crumbs from the PAP that it is now infused into their DNA.
But I am more sympathetic towards Singaporeans because to me, the problem is the mind numbing, model answer regurgitating educational system that Singaporeans have been put through. Singapore's educational system is a PAP scheme to generate a nation of mindless, reliant, and meek followers, incapable of independent thought who must rely on the divine guidance of the PAP. And the elitist PAP send their future leaders and children for an education overseas to escape this brainwashing process to come back and rule the serfs in Singapore. Fortunately, this approach is not 100% effective, else people like you and me will live a miserable existence in the 'Matrix'.
PS. And to think some Singaporeans are so proud of the number of 'A's or distinctions that they have achieved in the Singapore educational system. Oh, gratz to demonstrating your excellent abilities as a human recorder - had a unique idea much?
Yup, I totally agree with you mate!
DeleteHey LIFT I just read the BBC news and happened to see you in the article "bye bye birth place". I saw that you said "skilled migrants" and I thought that must have been edited. Surely you did not say "skilled", right?
ReplyDeleteLimpeh, I like your phrase, for all the answers - ''Because I'm worth it"
ReplyDeleteToo many Singaporean, if you ask them, they frankly having self-doubts of "Am I worth it?".
And for many of those that say they are worth it, are not brave enough to say it in front of PAP face.
Hahahaha, thanks for your reply. I should use l'Oréal as well ... might help improve my complexion :) But yes, it takes some thick skin to say things like 'because I'm worth it' - it may sound like some cheesy slogan from a cosmetic company, but how many of us are able to say it and mean it?
DeleteHere's an anecdotal tale: not all Singaporean employers have this mentality on scrambling for foreign workers.
ReplyDeleteMy dad is a GM for a local petrochemical company and for a couple years prior to 2008 he was constantly bitching and moaning at home about how his company can't find enough workers with degrees in chemical engineering and has no option but to hire foreigners. While they certainly know what they're doing, he hates that these workers hang around for 1-2 years to learn all of his best practices, leak them to a competing company and then defect for higher pay. He views it as time wasted in training those people.
From around 2008 or so, he was started sit on the advisory boards of ITE and a local polytechnic, so his mind was opened to hiring poly graduates. He found that the local poly grads he hired were keenly aware that the positions they were taking up are usually for degree holders, and so they were a lot more hungry in retaining that position. As these poly grads are typically from the socio-economic class that can't afford a plane trip out of the country, my dad proceeded to retain their loyalty by sending them overseas to Japan, Europe and the Middle East for more training. Even though all of this may cost more than just hiring some random chemical engineering graduate from Pinoyland, the local poly grads he hired have over time become more productive than any ol' dumb foreigner.
It's kind of depressing to see that my dad is one of the very few employers in Singapore who takes on enlightened employment practices like what I described above. There are too many who are too eager to take the easy way out.
Well Davin, thanks for sharing that story. Hats off to your dad. If only there were more people like him.
DeleteHi LIFT,
ReplyDeletePail mentality has a lot to do with education system and overall society attitude where risk-taking is discouraged. One of the reasons I'll be moving from this red dot is I don't want my kids to grow into typical risk averse, don't want to think outside of box person. Mind you, SGreans are certainly capable to be creative and are able to be quite unorthodox it's just for whatever reason system beat them down that they don't want to.
Well Someguy, it is classic Pavlovian conditioning that is discouraging risk taking. If it makes you feel any better, having dealt with the media industry in the UK, I can tell you that most people are risk averse (not just Singaporeans) and it is an AGE thing, not a cultural thing actually. I'll give you an example - in the UK, long before flash mobs became common flash, a company wanted to organize a flash mob for a promo campaign but the old marketing director with his grey hair, grey suit and grey ideas said no way, that's so different. So they waited till he went on a long business trip, got the sign off for it, organized it on a shoe string budget and it became the first big flash mob viral campaign (google T-mobile Liverpool Street station). Had the younger, more junior people at the T-mobile marketing dept not taken a risk whilst the big boss was away, they would have never pulled that one off.
DeleteSo is it just a Singaporean problem ... ? Not really.
Well, one thing is that I can compare behavior of people on my team as we are all about the same age. We are engineers so we don't deal with clients/customers that much but I'll tel you SGrean team mates are a lot more risk averse and engage in CYA behavior then anybody else to the point of sheer frustration. For them if there is no reference to authority (standard, book, guideline, documentation) then they will never do it even when it's based on simple logic & math. They need reassurance that if something goes wrong they can point to authoritative reference. They are terrified of failure. Mind you we are paid pretty well (96% percentile per MOM's wage data) so our employer is not paying us to regurgitate textbooks & reference manuals.
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