I was on the train when I saw a a mother with her two children who were in their late teens. The mother was probably in her 40s I suppose. They were all as white as they came - fair hair, blue eyes and yes they were English. They were having this conversation about why the older son couldn't get a job and their brand of English sounded like Vicki Pollard.... Here's a youtube clip to help you with the accent if you're not familiar with Vicki Pollard.
There is definitely an issue of social mobility in the UK - the poor stay poor, the rich stay rich. With this family I encountered, I don't think the mother is guilty of not pushing her children - as I eavesdropped on their conversation, I learnt that she clearly wants to see her son in work and is putting pressure on him to get a job. It was clear that she is working hard but she isn't exactly well educated so isn't in a position to help her children with their studies. She was speaking in non-standard English (eg. the use of double negatives) "you ain't gonna get nowhere" and that is probably why her children were both using double/triple negatives as well. This other Youtube clip comes to mind...
Instead of focusing on their education, some working class folks dream about shortcuts to becoming rich - many young men dream about becoming a professional footballer and earning obscene amounts of money doing something as fun as playing football. Others dream about going on a problem like Britain's Got Talent or X-Factor and becoming famous overnight. Why study to become a nurse or accountant when you can become rich and famous through reality TV?
Are there people from poor British families who do break out of this cycle of poverty? Of course there are, but not many. One such success story is MP Dianne Abbott - born to Jamaican immigrants, she went to Cambridge and enjoyed a great career in politics. Her mother was a nurse, her father was a welder - respectable jobs but clearly working class. Let's compare that to PM David Cameron's background: Cameron's father was a stockbroker and his mother was a justice of the peace. His family was fabulously wealthy and he is related to the Queen (and he is descended from King William IV). He is as posh as they come! You couldn't get a greater contrast between the backgrounds of Abbott and Cameron - yet they are both educated at Oxbridge and are successful politicians.
And guess what? There are plenty of white people like them who are just as disadvantaged in life and it boils down to this: it's not the colour of your skin, it is how rich your parents are. The amount of money (and time) they can dedicate to your upbringing and education will play a huge part in determining what kind of adult life you will have - be it that of a rich, successful professional or a someone struggling on minimum wage, unable to make ends meet. So the rich stay rich, the poor stay poor - looks like first and second class citizens to me.
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Are you familiar with the British social class system? |
What irks me though is that many Asian people in places like Singapore and Malaysia still do not understand what it is like in modern Britain: they have this ridiculously out of date notions of racist white people being nasty to black and Asian people in Britain, thus they imagine that the white people are first class citizens and the blacks and Asians are second class. Boy, if only they could meet that family on the train today, I would say, "see? You want to see second class citizens in Britain? There you go - and they're white and English and they're second class. Even amongst white British people, they have a very clear pecking order, a very clear sense of hierarchy that is called the class system and this goes back centuries, way before black and Asian immigrants arrived in Britain."
Let's look at the origins of the term "second class citizens" - the clue is in the word "class", it is a term that originated in the English language in reference to the social class system in Europe before it was then borrowed to described other situations (such as in Apartheid South Africa). Asian immigrants need to realize that they are stepping into a social system that goes back centuries and understand this concept of social class that forms the framework of European societies, rather than just focus on racism per se. After all, you're far more likely to be discriminated on the basis of your class, rather than your skin colour.
That is something Asian immigrants will never admit! After all, one makes snap judgments to determine a person's social class within moments of meeting someone. It boils down to the way they talk (do you sound well educated?) and the way you dress (do you look like a lawyer or banker or do you dress like Vicki Pollard?) - these impressions are formed within a few seconds of meeting someone (such as with that family on the train). To admit that you have suffered 'classist' discrimination means admitting that someone did think you spoke like a poorly educated person or that you dressed like a chav/chavette, They'd rather play the race card instead - but that's misleading because unless you know what kind of discrimination you're facing, how are you ever going to do anything constructive about the situation?
As for Asian immigrants, well, how well you fit into this system depends a lot on the kind of education and upbringing you've had. If you had parents who bludgeoned you through the education system and made sure you got into a top university, then you are in a far better position than those two teenagers on the train because you have acquired the skills to get you a decent job which enables you to use your brains to earn money (eg. bankers, accountants, designers, architects, journalists, university professors, lawyers etc). If however, you did not get the education you needed and/or if there was a language barrier, then you'll be facing the same problems as that family on the train and will be reliant on your muscles to earn money (ie. any kind of unskilled labour such as a cleaner or maid).
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Do you use your brains or muscles to make a living? |
So that's my definition of modern day first vs second class citizens: whether you have the luxury of using your brain to earn a living or if you have to resort to using your muscles. Naturally, the accountant is going to get paid a lot more for his services than say the woman whose job is to clean the accountant's office. Whether you end up as the accountant or his cleaner is pretty much dependent on the start you have in life.
Maybe the cleaner is happy doing what she is doing - maybe she doesn't see herself as a second class citizen and takes pride in her job. But it doesn't change the fact that as a cleaner, she will be paid the minimum wage and that means that she will not be able to afford to buy her children the kind of education they will need to get a head start in life. By virtue of her earning power, her children will have the odds stacked against them. Second class citizen or just poor people? Is this just a choice of finding the right politically correct term to describe the same situation? You decide.
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What are your options when you want to find a job? |
Is what I am describing unique to the UK? Hell no. The same could be said about any country in the world: the more educated your children are, the better their prospects in life. Perhaps that's why Singaporean parents spend so much on tuition for their children because they don't want their children to be lose out when they enter the job market in the future - it is important to give your children a good start in life, to maximize their chances for a bright future.
So yes, there are second class citizens in the UK, though they'll never admit that to you because it's too politically incorrect to talk about it. It's not racism that is creating this divide, but something that goes back a lot further (centuries in fact!) - way before black and Asian immigrants even appeared on Britain's shores, there was already this class divide which has been around for centuries and is not going to go away. By that token, there are first and second class citizens in any country you go to because there will always be a gap between the rich and the poor.
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Some people are born with the privilege to get ahead in life. |
All this focus on racism is a red herring as there are plenty of underprivileged white people with the odds stacked against them. By the same token, there are rich black and Asian people (like Diane Abbot and myself) who are lucky enough to have had parents who did make sure we did get a good education so we are able to access much better job opportunities as adults. Likewise, black and Asian people who do not have a decent education are left on the scrap heap of society not because of their skin colour but because of their social status. This is evident when we look at the situation in Asian countries where well educated Asian people rise to the top of their society and poor, uneducated Asian people suffer the same predicament as that family on the train - there is no difference, really. I could have just as well encountered a very similar family on a train in Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Seoul or Taipei.
So at this point, upon reflection, maybe I have been giving the British society too much credit and not giving my parents and myself enough credit. After all, it's not this absence of racism per se that allowed me to achieve everything in my career - it was my education, training, talents and range of other experiences that gave me the skills which made me employable. Heck, I worked bloody hard to get through school and university, to get the results I needed, to acquire a wide range of skills such as speaking many languages. Surely I deserve some credit for all that, rather than just celebrate just how progressive British society is because really, British society isn't that progressive for working class families with the odds stacked against the - such as that family on the train. Good luck to them.
Any questions or comments about the issue - don't be shy, please leave a comment below. Thanks!
Hi LIFT, nice article you've written that got me thinking. I had a different growing up exprience than the examples you have given and I wish to share with you. My parents has always believed in allowing me and my siblings to make our own decisions in life since we were young. For example my free decision to opt for EM 2 instead of EM 1 stream, my decision to opt out of a gifted programme, signing up for tuition classes, selection of schools and subjects, etc. I was taught in a way that if it is within their means and I can justify reasonably why I make this decision, they will give me their support.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately along the way, I have made poor decisions that affected my studies and ended up doing a "private" diploma and later a degree (business) because I refused to allow myself enroll into ITE. My main motivation was to find the fastest route to attain a degree and doing ITE/poly meant more years being stuck in the education system.
At present some of my peers are still doing their degree while I had gathered a couple of years of working experience. Despite my cert being inferior as compared to their NTU/NUS cert. But I feel that the earlier headstart is more benefial in this case. Please share your thoughts with me.
Hi Ziyang and thanks for your comment - without knowing what your career plans and ambitions are, it is hard for me to really make any meaningful judgement on your choices. My degree is totally irrelevant to what I do anyway, so yes there are people like me around - it would've made little or no difference whether I completed my degree or not at the end of the day.
ReplyDeleteHi LIFT, thanks for your reply. Currently I am looking into a career path of writing proposals and submitting tenders and bidding. I find that this skill is a niche at my age and position, 24, as I learned that not many are fond of reading and writting. As for my ambitions, I would like to (1) follow my father's footstep to be an entrepreneur, (2) move abroad either to London, Perth or Melbourne, and (3) be consistent in managing a trading fund as I have been retail trading for 3 years. I will also pick up a third language next year.
DeleteSo I was happy to chanced upon your blog as some of your articles touched on the topics where I needed more information and advise. Something that I could show to my wife as well since planning ahead will include her in the picture (We recently registered our marriage).
Hi Ziayng. I am always glad to help but I am not sure if I know enough about your niche industry to be of that much help to be honest - what you need to do is to be mentored by someone who has well and truly become very successful in doing this (and that's clearly not me as I work in a different industry). Good luck to you and your wife.
DeleteVery good article here Alex.. finally you are giving your parents more credit for the 'hot-housing' than you have been and perhaps understand why (though I would strongly disagree on the how) :)
ReplyDeleteWhilst your article touches about background and upbringing, I think there's also the big part of 'self'. The big question is 'Where do I want to be in life and how can i get there in a honest way'. Alot is down to hard work and a positive attitude. In my line of work, I've come across massive number of Oxbridge graduates, but why has the 'Ah Beng' from Singapore from a poor background got ahead?
Additionally, I think there's also a massive credit to the Sg education system for all its weaknesses. Let's consider that there are massive number of graduates from Philippines, India, China and the likes. I'm sure you have heard of stories of these graduates working as maids/odd job laborers overseas. It's possibly down to the brand name. I'm proud to say that I've got very international business connections and the Singapore brand name is very recognized - you'll be surprised how well regarded Singaporeans are in Mexico, maybe not amongst the 'average Joe' but amongst the more senior management.
Back to your post, and being 'in-tune' with the events occurring around, true enough, the British society ain't that great after all. Political correctness isn't helping either!
Cheers.
Hi again Colin and thanks for your reply. Yes I need to give my parents more credit for having bludgeoned me through the education system to get me to where I am today. Sitting next to that family on that train got me thinking on the issue as the liberal British system didn't help that family much - that poor mother is struggling and her kids didn't quite have the kind of aspirations I did when I was a teenager. I remember hearing the kind of jobs the mother suggested her son apply for and they were all pretty low down the food chain, the kind of jobs that anyone can do (ie. manual labour, as he is healthy and strong, as opposed to anything to do with brain power).
DeletePolitical awareness is sweeping the topic under the carpet and certainly, working class people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the odds are stacked against them as they have a LOT of pride - and that is a double edged sword. I think it's good to have pride and not be ashamed of your working class background, but then again, to ignore the fact that you exist in a social class system where the odds are so stacked against you - like hello? Open your eyes please.
So perhaps it's misleading of me to focus on the Singaporeans/Malaysians who are hell bent on insisting that Britain is a racist country where blacks & Asians are second class citizens - that racism card is blown way out of proportion. Let's instead talk about the CLASS system where a lot of it boils down to how your parents nurtured you and how hard you pushed yourself. Take Diane Abbot for example - working class background, Jamaican immigrant parents, made it to Cambridge and became so successful: let's give her some credit for having worked bloody hard to achieve what she has (rather than give anyone else like 'British society' that credit).
And by that token, how is the UK any different from Malaysia, Singapore or any other country in the world then?
Hey man, actually when you look at it, there isn't that much different really. However the government does play an important role in shaping the people's perspectives.
DeleteI do come across as a typical 'Tory' kind of person, but I think the society here has gone backwards in the last 10+ years. I hate to say this, but I do come across many in the UK who have that sense of entitlement and lack of ambition. Sadly, after speaking to several younger Singaporeans, I do have a feeling that we are heading that way too. I'm like 'Can you guys freaking open your big eyes and see what's happening out there, the competition out there?! You think because who you are now means you will remain like that forever?! '
Now the Malaysians are pretty different. Malaysians here meaning the Chinese Malaysians. I have other things to say about the Bumis, but I reserve that for another day. You will be surprised how successful some of these chinese Malaysians are. They are all over the world! I think this is because they are discriminated against back home and hence many had to venture out, gaining the sense of risk taking and resilience. Imagine combining book smart + street smart + good EQ + sense of adventure and risk taking.
Anyway, every country has its story and history. I always enjoyed reading up on a country's history and it's politics because it does explain alot about what's happening today in that country, the mindset and perception of the people. It never fails to fascinate me.
On your point of Singaporeans/Malaysians hell bent on insisting Britain is a racist country, I would say there is racism here. I've been subjected to that on numerous occasions. However it happens everywhere! It is a matter of who they are and their upbringing which leads to your point about class. A person's nationality doesn't mean anything. It is how they are, how they think, the attitude they have, that determines if they are racist, homophobic, etc..
Cheers.
Let's put it this way Colin - on the point of racism, let's take the example of me getting assaulted today. You've read the detailed account of my story. I bet you most S'poreans/M'sians would play the race card at once and claim I got attacked because I am Chinese. Did I pull the race card when I spoke to the police? No, I concluded that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, in the car park when the alarm went off which led to the guy assuming I was guilty. Loads of things are so wrong with what happened in those few minutes - but was my ethnicity anything to do with what had happened? No, I don't think so and I still don't think so.
DeleteMy point about racism is this: you will encounter crap everywhere you go in any country - that is a fact of life, kinda like what happened to me today. Wrong place, wrong time. But how many people actually come across crap and then stick a racism label on it and call it racist crap?
People do tend to seek evidence and alter evidence in order to prove a pre-existing belief they hold, this is called 'self-fulling prophesy'. So I can assure you that there will be readers of mine who read that story about what happened today and walk away with the conclusion that I was a victim of a racist attack - when really, I was a victim of an attack alright, but it wasn't a racist attack. A senseless one by an angry man who struck out at the wrong person who suay suay happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. What are some of the instances of racism you have encountered Colin - care to share? I'm just interested if it's genuinely racist crap or just generic crap - if you know what I mean.
#typo: self fulfilling prophesy.
DeleteHmm... where do I start? An occasion when I was walking to the nearest news agent to get the papers and being verbally abused with 'Chinese chink', 'slanty eyed' and having a cigarette pack kicked at me by a group of kids, to my boss being openly challenged about why promoting a 'foreign chink from a 3rd world country vs local Brits' (you are talking about some senior managers in a major corporate by the way), to subtle differences in treatment at the trains. Fact is, they do occur.
DeleteAnd yes, I also agree these are incidences where it can happen anywhere anytime. It's the luck of the draw. I could have called the police (which by the way are one of the most incompetent bunch I've come across, but that's another day's post), I could have confronted them (1 vs 7? Are you crazy?!) Or I could just brush it off and think nothing of it because these people are just not worth it - they will never get anywhere near where I am. Instead focus on what I am here to do and what I need to do and enjoy what I want to do.
So there you go, you have all sorts of people everywhere. But that's a fact of life. It's not all hunky dory here in the UK. Neither is it in Singapore. For every bad stories I have, I also have great ones to say. About how Pakistani friends helped me out when I was involved in an accident, about how I see colleagues helping out, to the most simple thing such as giving way to ambulance/police regardless how bad the traffic is.
My ending note is something you have said before - you chose what you want in life and make the best of it. Education plays a big part of a person's perspective and I'm fortunate to have a world class education even though I was from neighbourhood schools all the way and parents who stressed on my education (regardless the method they go about it).
Cheers.
Hi Colin, let me put it this way.
DeleteI express my sympathy for every incident of racism you have encountered in the UK - it is wrong, it cannot be justified and you deserve better.
Let me ask you this: does the fact that you did encounter some very unpleasant incidents of racism mean that you're a second class citizen? Or are you still a pretty rich, well educated white collar professional with a good job who has had the misfortune to encounter some really awful people?
Likewise, am I a second class citizen now that I encountered that random attack in that car park yesterday? No I am not. Like you, I am still a first class citizen, rather rich, good job, v well educated but I got beaten up for no reason yesterday - I am still who I am and it's not like the racism is so extreme that people like you and I are denied entry to universities in the first place (like Apartheid south Africa)...
I never said things were perfect (as yesterday illustrates) - but my point is that racism is an overblown red herring, people have far more real concerns about having the odds stacked against them due to socio-economic factors rather than racism per se.