The amount of tertiary education providers would be expected to grow since the population of Singapore has more than doubled since the early 1980s, but whilst the population has doubled, the number of tertiary education providers in Singapore have more than doubled since the 1980s. So this begs the question: just how many universities does Singapore need? Let me address both sides of the argument.
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| What kinds of universities would best serve the needs of Singapore? |
YES - Singapore needs these new universities.
The one big difference between Singapore today and back in the 1980s is the attitude towards tertiary education - back in the 1980s, many Singaporeans were quite happy to join the workforce without a degree. However today, it seems like a degree is a bare minimum and even those who aren't able to earn themselves a place at a respectable university like NUS will get themselves a degree not worth the paper it is printed on from some chapalang degree mill in America. It boils down to the question: is the trade off worth it? Would the time and money spent getting the degree bring you a greater reward in the long run?
Now it can be argued that many people who chose not to go to university back in the 1970s and 1980s could have benefited from a degree if they had the opportunity to do it. Whether or not your degree will be relevant to your career choice is another matter of course, but one is almost certainly better off armed with a good degree than without. It is simplistic to divide degrees up into good degrees (eg. from NUS, NTU, Oxbridge, Ivy League) vs bad degrees (ie. chapalang degree mills) - there is the grey area in between of course that we often neglect. We're talking about mediocre universities which are not elite, not even top 40 in UK or US (or top 10 in Australia), but still offer an acceptable level of academic rigour in their programme to make their degree useful for the student.
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| There is a gap in the market in Singapore: the middle ground. |
The explosion of new universities in Singapore represents this growth of the (lower) middle ground, for mediocre students who otherwise would not have earned themselves in a place at NUS/NTU. Back in the 1980s, such students may have opted to go abroad to Australia, the UK or US if their parents could afford it, otherwise, they would simply give up on the idea of getting a degree. Now, they have the option of getting a decent (well, mediocre) degree without the high costs of spending three years overseas.
This is indeed good news for the parents of Singapore - I remember back in the late 1980s when this family friend screwed up his A levels and couldn't get into NUS/NTU. So his parents sent him to a university in the UK that was on the wrong end of the league table and in hindsight, that was a lot of money spent on a very below average degree from a crap university - it was a pretty poor investment. He kinda got away with it because employers back then were more ignorant about the university ranking system in the UK. His parents had no choice back then as the local options were far more limited then - so it was either sending him abroad or him entering the work force without a degree.
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| Studying in the UK or US may be fun, but is usually rather expensive. |
Education in itself is a big industry - a university can generate a lot of jobs! The construction of a university campus would provide so many jobs for the construction industry. Everyone from architects to electricians to plumbers to garden designers to interior designers to IT technicians will benefit from the construction of a new campus. There is a huge cohort of teaching staff along with support stuff (lab technicians, librarians, IT support, facilities management etc) along with other ancillary services (canteen and catering staff, cleaning crew, security staff, the bookshop etc).
The UK has a huge education industry - there are currently around half a million foreign students in the UK at the moment, most of them in tertiary education. These students spend a lot of money not just in school fees, but also in all other aspects of everyday life. Students use public transport, buy food at the local supermarket, shop for clothes in the malls, use sports facilities, use mobile phones, go to the cinema and of course, they need a place to live. In the UK, almost all university students need some kind of accommodation - student accommodation is big business in the UK.
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| Foreign students inject a lot of money into the UK economy because they spend a lot! |
Here's the thing that shocks and surprises me: I can understand a student coming to the UK for Oxford, Cambridge or any of the top 10 universities , but why would a foreign student pay this much for a university at the wrong end of the league table? But guess what? Universities at the very bottom of the league table like London Metropolitan University are particularly popular with foreign students - I don't get it. Why pay this much for such a worthless degree from such a crap university? But regardless of the quality of the degree the students receive, a functioning university still generates plenty of jobs. If Singapore can grow their education sector, then Singapore can position itself as an Asian education hub, as a viable alternative to the UK, US or Australia. Given the amount of jobs more universities can generate, this can't be a bad thing. One would be mad not to embrace it.
At this stage I am struggling a little to find something to counter the argument, when there seem to be so many benefits associated with universities, but I have found some arguments to slow this expansion of universities in Singapore.
NO - there are too many, we don't need any more for now.
There is the issue of quality vs quantity: you would rather have one university like Cambridge than 100 universities like London Metropolitan University (one of the worst in the UK, usually at the very bottom of the league tables or nearly there). Let's think about the students in Singapore - what do they need? What will best prepare them for the best jobs in the working world? What is the gap in the market now?
Right now, there are few really good local options: you can't go wrong with NUS and NTU. SMU not quite there yet but not a bad compromise if you can't get into SMU. SUTD and Yale-NUS are brand new and a bit of an untested entity at this stage, so I wouldn't want to risk telling anyone to enroll there yet. As for the Australian universities in town, James Cook is not even in the top half of the Australian league table (18 out of 29) and Curtin is slightly better (coming in 13 out of 29) but both universities are vastly inferior to NUS and NTU. According to Temple University's wikipedia page, they are ranked 121st in the US - so even by their own admission, they are not exactly attracting the brightest brains in America. Of the two British universities, Cardiff Met is ranked 96th out of 124 and Queen Margaret is ranked 90th out of 124. Oh dear. Not quite Oxford and Cambridge, no? Tut tut...
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| Do you want a degree from a crap university? |
That's just the universities - I could go on to the private institutes but it's just a very depressing picture there. Most of these private institutes are partnering with universities very low on the league tables in their own countries. Take ERC Singapore for example, their British partners are the University of Greenwich (ranked 95th) and the University of Wolverhampton who have been ranked between 90 and 100 for the last few years and have stopped participating in these ranking surveys because of their dismal results but their 2008 ranking of 93rd should give you an indication of their position in the league table should they take part in the ranking survey. Oh dear. Aiyoh.
So whilst there is indeed a big expansion of choices for the students in Singapore, really, with the sole exception of SMU which is the only credible second choice to NUS/NTU (it's not as great but it'll have to do if you can't get into NUS/NTU), the rest of the alternatives are really catering for the bottom end of the market. So if you're a student who has messed up his A levels, then the good news is that you have plenty of options in Singapore with your bad grades. But if you're a student who has straight As, then really nothing has changed since the 1980s - it's still NUS/NTU or go to a better university abroad like Oxford or Cambridge. Is it just me, or has this expansion in choices been at the wrong end of the market? So whilst this expansion may have generation jobs for some people (which is a good thing), how many parents want to actually see their children end up in one of these institutes catering for the lower end of the market instead of NUS? Would you want such a degree, hmmmm?
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| Not all graduates are equal... |
So if Singapore does have the aspiration to become a regional university hub, would it rather have a small number of excellent institutions or a large number of private institutions working with the most chapalang foreign universities from around the world? The term GIGO comes to mind, garbage in = garbage out. Great universities will produce excellent scientists, politicians, business leaders, entrepreneurs, academics, engineers, architects, doctors and artists who will have a great impact on the society around them. What can you expect however, from the bottom feeders, the universities who mop up the remnants of those who do not have the grades to get into a decent university?
To be realistic about it, building a great university takes a lot of time - NUS was established way back in 1905 and that's one thing it shares with all the universities ranked within the top 50 in the world. Even somewhere like CalTech which may sound relatively new (since Los Angeles barely had a population of 100,000 in 1900) was in fact founded in 1891. It's going to take an awfully long time before SMU can achieve the reputations of NUS and NTU. In the meantime, should we be encouraging this expansion at the lower end of the market - or should more resources focused on the higher end of the market? For example, instead of setting up a brand new university in SUTD, wouldn't the resources have been better spent to help NUS and NTU expand so that they can increase their research capacity, take on more students and build on what they have already achieved over the years?
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| Could the money be better spent elsewhere? |
For a brand new university like SUTD off the ground to a great start, they need to find their niche rather than compete against NUS/NTU - for example, they ought to be providing very specialist courses (game development anyone?) in areas not covered by more general computer science or engineering degrees offered at NUS/NTU. If they can build up a reputation for being able to successfully predict what kind of skills will be in demand in three years time, then they can find themselves becoming very popular very quickly. Of course, all universities think they can predict this successfully, but it really depends on the university having good links with industry experts in the working world. I fear too many universities are so isolated by the working world, run by academics who may have never ever set foot in a real office in the business world before - how are they supposed to understand what is going on in the business world then?
I remember an exchange I had with a reader of mine who asked me if it was worth his while pursuing the business analytics course at NUS. I read the prospectus and shook my head every step of the way: it was trying too hard to cover too many subjects whilst not dedicating enough time to any of them. The term 'jack of all trades and master of none' comes to mind: there must be a good compromise between breadth and depth when it comes to structuring a course like that and in this case, they did get it wrong - and this is NUS. It makes me think that this course is structured by a bunch of academics who have totally lost touch with the business world, spending far more time in Kent Ridge than Raffles Place. So if NUS can mess up like that, it does show you just how big a challenge SUTD has before them.
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| Your degree ought to prepare you for your future job. |
We would all love to see SUTD and Yale-NUS provide that credible alternative to NUS and NTU and move into that space which SMU is currently occupying: ie. a good, viable, reasonable second choice. It remains to be seen if they will indeed occupy that gap in the market or if they will be consigned into the rubbish heap at the bottom of the market. This will not be clear until we have at least the first few batches of graduates from SUTD and Yale-NUS and as they say, the proof is in the pudding. We shall see in due course, on va voir - I shall reserve my judgement for now.
So there you go, that's both sides of the argument for you. If you're a student at the moment contemplating your choices in Singapore, let me know what you think. Would you consider going to somewhere like SUTD for your degree? What do you think of this expansion? Let me know what you think, leave a comment below, thanks!










hi Limpeh, a bit off track on this topic, but it is still related to education though, a bit more of my own interest.
ReplyDeleteI would like to know if you have heard of 'Marlborough College' in the UK?
They just newly opened a new campus here in Johor (Iskandar region) to cater Expensive International Education for those expats' kids from Singapore/Johor. (Well, there are few more international schools opening in this region)
This campus is offering levels from pre-school to high school.
I have been to the campus, though expensive, but I do love the fact that they have really fantastic facilities, especially for outdoor activities etc. They advertise Marlborough College as very prominent and high ranking in the UK.
Those expats' angmoh kids are travelling in Marlborough College luxury bus into Johor everyday to study.
Would like your inputs, as I am seriously thinking of international school for my son.
Hi Xiaobai, I had a look at the information on Marlborough College - I'll take the rankings with a big pinch of salt as they only do pre-university education up to A levels/IB and then off you go to a real university at the age of 18. Now parents tend not to send their children to boarding school in the UK - not unless they're very rich and can afford it, the vast majority of the students in the UK go to a local school within reasonable commuting distance up till A levels and then go to the best university their grades can get them into (which may be v v far away).
DeleteI have had a look at their website and quite frankly, I don't think it is worth your money for a simple reason: logistics. If it was located in Singapore, then I say, go for it. Or if you're willing to send your son to boarding school there, then by all means go for it. But I pity your poor son having to spend so many hours of his life stuck on the bus waiting to cross that causeway when that time could be better spent doing other activities.
There are plenty of private schools in Singapore which do offer excellent facilities and if you want to get your child to grow up in a more confident, international and cosmopolitan way, then there are a range of sports and arts activities that you can enroll your son in so that he gets to mingle and interact with kids of all backgrounds (not just Chinese-Singaporean kids).
Many people are gonna hate me for telling this story, but I'm going to tell it anyway. Back when I was sec 2, I was walking through a car park with my father when this American man stopped and asked us for directions. My dad literally just said no, no and tried to walk away as if we were in a terrible hurry (we were not) - I then turned to the American and asked him where he wanted to go. It turns out that he wanted to go to the tennis courts facilities which were on the other side of the car park and he was walking in the wrong direction. I spent about 30 seconds telling him where to go and he said thanks.
And my dad said after that, "wah, 我听不懂他在讲什么..." And I'm like, duh, he wasn't engaging us in some really cheem discussion, he just wanted to know where the tennis courts were, you didn't need to run away from him like that. The poor guy was lost lah, he just needed directions.
You'll be amazed how many Singaporeans lack the confidence like my dad to engage with an American asking for directions in a car park - it's very, very basic things like this which you need to think about for your son's long term development. This building up of confidence to be able to talk to strangers is hugely important for him in the long run and can impact on him being able to perform well in job interviews when he is put under immense pressure in front of a panel of strangers. Those skills can be developed without sending him to an expensive international school in M'sia.
I hope this helps :)
Thanks alot Limpeh, I get your points here.
DeleteI might get you wrong too, I am/we are living in JB ;p
Me and my hubby are the ones that are wasting a lot of time traveling everyday to Spore to work!
Definitely I am not putting him to the boarding part of the school. I will miss him too much!!
I am thinking of private/international schools in JB becoz frankly speaking, the public schools here are degrading to a point that it is just speechless.
And like you have just said, that is by all means what I wanted for him too, self confidence and be adaptive to an international environment. Yet I don't see that part of education in M'sia all-chinese schools(so-called better choice) or lousy public schools. They just don't have this kinda environment here.
Just lately I went to few private schools in JB and saw some differences in the education system and the better environment/culture. Thus, seriously having a thought of it. The barrier is the $$$ part which makes me wonder if it worth the money.
Aaaah if you're already in JB, then that's a different issue. There is a reason why there are so many Malaysian kids in Singaporean schools you know and I am only too aware of the quality of M'sian public schools. I remember when I was in KL and I had to take this overhead bridge to cross a road. From the top of that bridge, I could look into a school and it just reminded me of what schools were like in S'pore back in the early 1980s when I was a kid - a bit like my primary school back then...
DeleteCould I ask how old your son is as that would affect your decision?
haha..I know too well... and the lousy public schools haven't change for decades.. or I would say, it changes, but to the worse, and coming to worst.
DeleteHowever, I wouldn't pick a Singapore school though it is far better off than those in Msia. They still stressed too much on papers and books and marks and many subjects that I think are already obsolete but I see no revamp in the education system.
I prefer those international schools as the systems are more on hands-on, human interaction, thinking, and presentation, how to present the thought process, really going out there and try on new stuffs and experience and most of all, have fun in learning. And these schools have pupils over the world, where everyone mix &befriend and learn from each other.
Of course, he is 3 now. The schools nowadays require reservation to secure a place at around 1.5 years beforehand.
I would like to know how you think about this, and thank you, I appreciate it :)
OK Xiaobai, if money is no object, then by all means go for it. I don't know what your financial situation is but these private international schools are by no means cheap.
DeleteHowever, allow me to say something which is a dose of reality (which reflects solely on my life experience) please: I went through the Singaporean state school system and somehow, because I was more street smart than a lot of my peers, I was able to find my way around the business world. It wasn't my academic prowess that got me where I am today, it was me being street smart that was the most crucial factor.
Who taught me how to be street smart? Well, nobody actually. I kinda figured that out on my own through life's experiences and wasn't afraid to try new things despite not having much encouragement or motivation - I pushed myself, motivated myself and saw myself through a lot of challenges.
Then I have seen some kids who have come through the private schools system in the UK - and guess what? No amount of quality teaching or country club facilities can turn some of these dumb kids into bright sparks. You can throw money at them but you can't polish a turd. Sorry to be that blunt.
So... I am wondering: what do you wish to get out of such a big investment in your child's education? Are you realistic in your expectations? Do you just want him to have a good time? Or are there goals on your list?
Roger that, Limpeh.
Deletehah, you are rite, nothing can polish a turd. And it is a huge investment.
Running thoughts are:
-If I would not want him to be in the lousy M'sia education system and school, what other options I have?
-Yes, I do want him to have a great time at school, and have fun learning. And those are definitely not coming from public schools.
-Largely is the nurturing environment, I guess. Johor is getting more cosmopolitan nowadays but most of the locals here (as well the education system) aren't keeping up to the pace at all.
-The quality of the majority of teachers here (you know, statistic shows 70% of them failed English?!). The top notch pupils won't become teachers(Pay is way too low). Most of the teachers are from flopped students where they couldn't find better jobs elsewhere. Once I met a teacher who pronounced 'iron' as 'e-rone' instead of 'i-yearn' proudly. She didn't even have the slightest idea that she pronounced it wrongly. And guess what, 'island' is pronounced as 'is-land' rather than 'i-learn'.
I still have some time to put together some thoughts and see how it goes..
That was a rather long winded way of me telling you that I have encountered kids whose parents have spent a small fortune on their education and still end up somewhat ... below average. But you knew that already lah - I could go into individual examples, but I think the problem lies with parents who focus too much on the academics or individual areas (eg. music) rather than taking a step back and being painfully honest and going against the grain. My friends have this daughter who is painfully shy and doesn't have the confidence to speak to strangers - like, at the age of 12, when she goes to the shop with her mother, she wouldn't dare pay for the groceries as that would involve speaking to the cashier which terrifies her. Ironically, that child is brilliant at school - but her parents are blind to the areas where she is clearly lacking development because it's so much easier to see her good results. Her parents see what they want to see and ignore the fact that their daughter has virtually no friends at school because she doesn't like talking to others, doesn't like strangers hence doesn't want/dare to make friends. Go figure. That's an area that's so important but that poor kids hasn't been helped at all. Her parents just dismiss it as, "oh she's just a bit shy, she'll grow out of it."
DeleteYou need to be the kind of parent who will be willing to deal with areas of weaknesses rather than ignore them, so the child will not grow up with a particular area of weakness that will come back to haunt him later on in his life when it matters. That would mean subjecting the child to do something that s/he hates... but can you find a fun and creative way to do that? I suggested music, dance and drama classes to my friends to get their shy child out of her shell and build her confidence to perform, but they said, "Oh she won't enjoy that..."
That said, I think parents can play a huge role in that nurturing process rather than relying entirely on teachers. So regardless of how bad the M'sian school system is, you can still make a huge difference by being a brilliant parent.
PS. You still haven't given me an indication what your financial situation is? That private school is expensive, but if you're rich - then why not? Just go for it.
Limpeh, I do agree with you. Parents play the biggest role in nurturing the child. Schools on other hand, is because the child spend quite a big deal of time at school where he will learn and experience from the teachers/peers. Environment that the kid is exposed to is crafting the child development.
DeleteYah, both of us are engineers working in S'pore. And we are spending RM. We don't have a rich background but we are financially good, above average, from and by our own. We do save monthly for education.
Well, there are two ways to look at it, if you not dripping in money and filthy rich.
Delete1. You don't know if the child is going to benefit all that much from the independent/international school experience, so you try it out first by enrolling him as soon as possible and trying to see if you are happy with the impact it has on his development - and then take it from there, depending on your financial situation.
2. You are certain that it is going to have a positive impact on him - but you then save money for the time when it will be more crucial. I have a good Malaysian friend whose parents realized that and here was her route: primary education Malaysia, secondary education Singapore, university UK. They stepped it up each time as resources were limited (ie. they did not have a bottomless pot of money to spend on her education) so they prioritized their choices and made sure the most money was spent on her degree.
Which option are you leaning to?
I guess I would be leaning to no.1. I want to give it a try.
DeleteI think a child development when he is very young is more vital than when he is older.
The mentality, mindset, attitude & altitude of looking at things are more or less crafted/and start to root during younger age. Giving him a more comprehensive environment at a younger age is more impactful. He can make his own decision and judgement when he is older i.e. whether he wanna go to college, he wanna live here or explore overseas.
Et voila, you have your answer then. :)
DeleteThank you :)
DeleteHi Limpeh,
ReplyDelete1) Exactly how do you decide whether a course achieves a good compromise between breadth and depth? Where should we draw the line? Compare the two curriculums below:
http://www.ise.nus.edu.sg/BEng/Curriculum/matric-ay1314.html
http://me.nus.edu.sg/images/files/ME130423v7%20Summary%20Information%20AY13_14%20ME%20students.pdf
2) On “It makes me think that this course is structured by a bunch of academics that have totally lost touch with the business world, spending far more time in Kent Ridge than Raffles Place.” I understand that NUS have a career centre to help close the knowledge gap between employers and graduating students. These academics probably won’t have the time to get in touch with the working world when they are laden with administrative, teaching and research work though it is actually their responsibility to I suppose?
Hi there - I don't have the time to go through these curriculums with a fine tooth comb and dissect them, I will however, tell you that what you learn at university should be as relevant as possible to your job and the reason why I didn't like the business analytics programme was that it simply didn't match any single job out there... A good compromise between depth vs breadth is the job relevance test: to apply this test, simply look at the curriculum and see if you can complete this sentence, "based on this degree, the graduate would be most suited for ______________________" (insert name of job or jobs). If you can easily answer that question with a few obvious answers, then congrats, it's passed the test. If you're not very sure what is directly relevant, then it has failed the test. There you go.
Delete2. I didn't study at NUS so I can' comment on how good their careers centre is - maybe one of my other readers who did study at NUS can help you out there.
It's not really the responsibility of your teaching staff to help you with your future career, that's your personal responsibility - you have to learn to take care of yourself!
What jobs would a Geography major be suited for, then? Clearly it's general as business analytics, biz admin, and the other arts majors.
DeleteYou want the long answer or the short answer? Long answer: http://limpehft.blogspot.com/2017/12/q-is-geography-degree-totally-useless.html
DeleteShort answer: it is very general, so it is not going to point you in any specific direction in terms of your career. Nonetheless, if you have a geography degree from a university that's easily say top 10 in the UK / US, then it's just a piece of paper that says, "hire me, I'm smart! I'm intelligent enough to get into a good university and hardworking enough to survive their system for 3 years".
In hindsight, I would not have studied geography as a degree - but heck, I've a successful career in a field which has absolutely nothing to do with geography.
what about the LSE at clementi aka UOL @ SIM?
ReplyDeletealso just realized cant see comments section on chrome....not sure if its just me though.
Hello Peter.
DeleteThanks for your comment. The problem with UOL @ SIM is that of reputation - it is tough to actually secure a place at LSE, you really need the top grades at A levels and the best brains from around the world study at LSE. This intense competition for places at LSE means that LSE can pick and choose the cream of the crop, the very best to study there and reject those who are not as brilliant.
Whereas with SIM, come on lah, who are you trying to kid lah, it's a dumping ground for people who cannot get into decent universities like NUS/NTU - any Tom, Dick or Harry can enrol and study there as long as they pay the fees. So it doesn't matter who awards the degree or where your curriculum is from etc, it's the entry requirements which gives SIM a bad reputation.
So in simple terms, if you study at LSE, the message is 'wow you must have done really well to earn yourself a place there!!' If you study at SIM, the message is 'aiyoh, what went wrong? Cannot get into NUS izzit? Why did you screw up so badly, are you that stupid or what? Or did you kena dengue fever during your exams?'
Yes it is that bad. You don't need to be an expert on reputation to know what kind of bad reputation SIM has - who are you trying to kid? It's GIGO = Garbage in, Garbage Out. When SIM starts attracting straight A students, that's when it will start to command respect.
I get that problem as well sometimes - u just have to press refresh and reload the page a few times and then it will show.
Hi limpeh, I would like to find out from you, which uni is better? University of Newcastle or university of Bradford? Thanks(:
ReplyDeleteHands down: Newcastle.
DeleteThe ranking of Newcastle is 22 whilst Bradford is waaaaaaaaay down at 82. Usually I would say, "depends on the course" - but when the overall ranking difference is so big, then it's no fight.
Hi,
ReplyDeletethis may be a bit of an old and dead thread but I was researching on universities and I chanced upon this...
I just want your advice as I'm probably at a crossroads by now. I have a spot in SMU (Business Management) and a school in the UK, Cass Business School (Investment and Financial Risk Management). I want to go onto the trader's path for my career; ie, Sales and Trading, FO Banks. An immensely difficult and competitive sector. Cass is considered quite good in the UK: Top business school in London, 4th in the UK.
I'm leaning towards Cass Business School. Thing is, Cass is a subset of what people may define as a middle tier university (City University London), and the reputation of that school may degrade my competitiveness no matter how good the skills I learn in the course are.
I'm afraid this might hamper my chances of working in the UK/Singapore banks and eventually bite me in the ass, and I'll regret not going to SMU.
Your thoughts?
A confused, sad, headless chicken
Hi there. Frankly, I don't think it makes too much of a difference in terms of which university you go to - if you want to become a trader, you must have that killer instinct to be able to impress the gatekeepers who will give you a chance to prove yourself on the trading floor. So I think the following factors would be far more important:
Delete- showing you have personality and an interesting life outside school
- demonstrating that competitive streak (like how many gold medals you have won in the sport you excel at)
- how well you perform in the interview
- how well you speak (are you articulate or Vicki Pollard)
- who you know in the industry to help you 'pull-string' and make things happen for you
So I'm afraid you're asking all the wrong questions (I got another similar question from a Malaysian last night - again, asking all the wrong questions, salah). Think about what I've said above and we can talk about it if you want.
OK?
Hi,
ReplyDeleteHow about SIT?I heard they did overseas collaboration with international Universities.
Any advice for poly grad like me
Mate, thanks for your comment. Here's a few points for you to consider:
Delete1. Just because a university did some collaboration with another university doesn't make it any better. This kind of collaboration happens all the time with universities all around the world, it doesn't make it any better. It's like saying, "hey this university has a photocopier, does it make it a better university?" And I'm turning around and saying, "mate, every university in the world has a photocopier, it's nothing special lah."
2. A very Singaporean way to look at how good SIT is will be the entry barriers: if they only accept top students who have straight As (as in the case of Oxford & Cambridge), then you have a good university. If they let any idiot who has failed all his exams in, then you don't need to be an expert to figure out that it is a lousy university.
3. And any advice for you, erm, allow me to state the obvious: I know nothing about you. All I know is your name and you're a poly grad, I don't even know what you studied at poly or what kind of career path you wanna follow. That means I am totally unable to give you any kind of meaningful advice because anything I can say to you is gonna be so vague that it will have no value, as it is not specific enough to your case. So the moral of the story is: you can't ask random strangers for advice, it is better to ask someone who knows you very well.