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| I read these cover to cover by the age of 10. Call me a geek if you must. |
This was why I was very disappointed with my experience in Indonesia - now Indonesia is one of Singapore's two neighbours along with Malaysia. Most Indonesians know a lot about Singapore and certainly the ones I encountered did. I am able to speak Malay, which is mutually intelligible with Indonesian and have made the effort to do my research before going to Indonesia to make sure I knew which words to substitute in Indonesian: such as using 'bisa' instead of 'boleh', 'berbicara' instead of 'bercakap', 'dana' instead of 'duit', 'mobil' instead of 'kereta' etc. My regular readers will know what a total linguistic geek I am and I actually took great pleasure in learning Indonesian prior to my trip.
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| 'Wortel' in Indonesia, 'Lobak Merah' in Malaysia/Singapore |
Hence when I found myself in difficult situations, I thought I could rely on my language skills to negotiate my way out of any difficult situation. Admittedly, my language skills did prove to be really useful in Indonesia, even in a place like Bali where the locals didn't speak much English and it was extremely useful to be able to communicate in Bahasa Indonesia. Nonetheless, given my accent, most locals would ask me, "Awak dari mana? Malaysia? Singapura?" (Where are you from? Malaysia? Singapore?) It was clear I wasn't a local given my accent despite the fact that I was making a valiant effort with the language (and actually speaking it with confidence).
Let me give you an example - whilst driving in Bali late one night, I nearly ran out of fuel and needed to ask some locals where I could get some petrol for my car. The people I approached spoke virtually no English and the conversation took place almost entirely in Indonesian. They explained to me that we were very far from the nearest petrol station but I could buy petrol from the local warung (shop) in a nearby kampong and they gave me directions to it. When I got to the warung, it was closed but a little old lady (who spoke no English) popped her head out and asked me what I needed and she sold me two litres of petrol for 14,000 Rupiahs which enabled me to get to my destination that night. All this was done without a word of English - so yes, it was certainly very useful to be able to speak the local language for I wasn't sure I could have resolved that problem if I didn't speak the local language.
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| Limpeh in Prambanan, Java |
Nonetheless, there is obviously a lot of animosity between Indonesia and her neighbours Singapore and Malaysia and my accent didn't earn me any friends; and telling them that I was from Singapore didn't exactly score me any brownie points either. And yeah, I know that Indonesians don't like Singaporeans - but I naively thought that I could prove to them that I was a sincere visitor who was not like all those other Singaporeans who don't speak a word of their language (and that by that token, they would like me). Maybe it was extremely naive of me to expect them to like me or reward me for having made a huge effort with their language - but that was always what I had experienced traveling elsewhere in the world. Heck, when I was in Oman, my Arabic was a lot more limited than my Bahasa Indonesia - yet the locals reacted with such warmth and hospitality when I made valiant efforts to speak Arabic with the locals.
I do accept part of blame of course, I could have done a lot more research on Indonesia before going. I have so many friends in Singapore who have traveled to Indonesia a lot more than me and I could have spoken to them a lot more before going to Indonesia. Yet there was a part of me that thought, I am a seasoned traveler, I can speak some Bahasa Indonesia and I can handle this - so I suppose part of the disappointment lies with myself in having bitten off way more than I could chew in trying to 'go local' in Indonesia by traveling around independently rather than staying in a 5 star resort on Kuta beach like most other western tourists.
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| Limpeh in Tampak Siring, Bali |
Will I go to Indonesia again? No, I probably wouldn't. There are other countries in Asia that I would love to visit - Cambodia, Laos, Nepal, Myanmar, Pakistan, Mongolia, South Korea, North Korea etc. I would prefer to go to explore those countries rather than return to Indonesia. There are plenty of countries where I have enjoyed and would love to explore further - the countries where I have had my best experiences have been covered in my tourist season series last year. I didn't get that much joy with the locals in Indonesia despite being able to speak the language and the locals came across as quite predatory - like they were trying to get money out of me since they assumed that I was some kind of rich foreigner and me being in their country somehow gave them the right to extract as much money from me as possible. I didn't trust the local police. The most friendly people I actually met in Indonesia were other foreigners who were either traveling or running guest houses there, but I suppose it was a lot easier for me to sit down and have a long conversation with a Dutch or Australian person than with an Indonesian person given the huge cultural differences.
In terms of the friendliest people I have encountered whilst traveling, it is hard choice - but I think France and Spain and very high on that list (but do bear in mind that I am fluent in both French and Spanish, which makes it easy for me to make friends). Turkey, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Croatia, Czech Republic, America, Portugal, Switzerland have all been awesome in terms of being able to make friends with locals. In Asia, the two friendliest places I have experienced are the UAE (Dubai) and Malaysia - Malaysia is amazing, I really like Malaysia and I did enjoy my time there despite not getting to meet my friend Alvin there.
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| Limpeh in Ubud, Bali |
So there you go - that's why I felt sorely disappointed with my experience in Indonesia. Have you traveled in Indonesia before and what were your experiences? Have I been naive in my expectations? Do you have friends who are Indonesian? Is it easy to make friends as a traveler in Indonesia? Or have I simply been unlucky whilst other have had fabulous experiences in Indonesia? Do you enjoy visiting Indonesia? Do leave a comment below and let me know what you think, share your experiences. Thanks everyone, terima kasih.





Hi Limpeh,
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear that you had a bad experience with car accident on the way back to Jogja. Your experience is not unusual for car driver that had accident with motorcycle. In fact the current attitude of these motorcyclist - in general, you have more money since you are driving car so you need to compensate me, a poor driver with motorcycle. It is not only happened in this kampung, but also happen in Jakarta. In the hindsight, you did the right thing - bargain for compensation of the "injured" motorcyclist - even though it is not your fault. Of course after that you feel very angry and feel being used; but it is not recommended to prolong the discussion with irrational people.
In the end, if you are traveling in Indonesia and renting a car, better with a driver - you will have a better experience traveling providing the driver is referenced by known people. Normally, I will ask the where is the best local food; and the best driver will lead the way to good local food.
It is not advisable to drive by yourself in Indonesia, since road conditions are generally not very good, and too many of motorcyclist who do not know the traffic rules nor the competence to handle motorcycle.
Hopefully, this incident will not discourage you to explore Indonesia more.
Best regards.
Stefanus.
Hai Stefanus dan terima kasih untuk message anda.
DeleteI dd speak to many people in Singapore about my accident and there was this one story that I remember well - this old man (who was Indonesian, but moved to Singapore) told me this story: back in his hometown in East Java, there were these fishermen who made a meager living selling the fish they caught and even then, these fishermen had to pay a bribe each time they ran into someone 'official' such as the police, the port officials, even soldiers - everyone wanted a little something from them. Even if the fishermen had no money, they would give the officials some fish just to be allowed to carry on with their work.
The old man told me that I wasn't targeted because I was a foreigner (or because I was Chinese) - but simply, that being in a car meant that I had money and there has been a long culture of corruption and bribes in Indonesia so the same thing would probably have happened even if I was 100% Javanese.
I see you're from Jakarta, when I was 16 and visited Jakarta for the first time, I had my bag (with money and camera) stolen - so yeah, not a country I've had good experiences with I'm afraid.
My experiences with Indonesia were good.
ReplyDeleteI generally approach people by addressing them as Pak or Ibu (or for older people, I will address them as pakcik or makcik) - it seems to work.
My partner and I love to go via motorbike - and it is always fun! :) On the bike, the people were really nice to us.
talking about indonesia.... think we will ever go to war with indonesia or malaysia?
ReplyDeleteI think its almost impossible given that there are already so many malaysians & indonesians working in SG. I mean isnt security already compromised if got so many potential enemies in SG.
Malaysians MPs come to SG during elections to canvass votes because there is so many of them working here & Indonesians make up the largest tourist arrivals not to mention the thousands that work as maids. Or they could just start burning forests to smoke us out, no need to even fight.
Not to mention US navy ship is almost always docked in Changi, and the fact that any country attacking SG is probably gonna hurt as many sinkies as pinoys, india indians, china chinese etc... I mean would china keep quiet if its citizens overseas are harmed. I thought they always try to stir anger outwards.....
If taiwan with a thousand missiles pointed at them by china can scrap conscription in 2015 why does singapore have to spend so much money on defence & waste 2 years of guys lives(&reservists). We are like just behind Israel in terms of money spent per capita(i think) & the time spent in conscription. At least Israel has Iran and Hizbullah(?) to contend with. Not to mention that all men need to serve 2 years because of manpower needs, but women no need to serve because manpower needs are adequate.
I know you previously talk about NS life, but can say something about need for NS.
ICT again soon...damn pissed.
No, Singapore will never ever go to war with any country - not Malaysia or Indonesia. There is a simple principle here: do not pick a fight you cannot win. The sheer size of Indonesia and Malaysia almost guarantees a victory for either country and such a conflict would result in a large number of civilian casualties - imagine if a bomb fell in Ang Mo Kio or Yishun or Bishan and a couple of blocks of flats collapsed. A surrender would be imminent just to get the enemy to stop dropping bombs on the HDB estates and killing thousands like that.
DeleteThe best form of defense is good relations with your neighbours so as to prevent any kind of conflict in the first place - for example, making basic Malay compulsory in all schools (yes I am all for that! my parents had to do it back in the day) would be a step in the right direction in terms of building good relations with Malaysia and Indonesia, rather than for Singapore to come across as this "we're mostly Chinese, we're English speaking and we're nothing like you" state who isn't interested in becoming a good neighbour. As someone who has Chinese-Singaporean parents and who does speak Malay, I think this is a simple and vital step to improve relations with our neighbours.
If you're that unhappy about NS/ICT etc - why don't you just leave Singapore? Go work elsewhere.
Hi Limpeh,
ReplyDeleteI'm a Singaporean who has just relocated to Jakarta (for abt a couple of mths) with my Indonesian spouse. If people were to ask me how's jakarta, my reply would be "well, i feel really alive in indo cos i may die anytime."
Indonesia has a massively wide income gap. the rich can be filthy rich while the poor can be really poor - a normal worker earns about 200 sgd per mth. or less. Hence in the society, it's a norm where the most people would expect the well-offs to tip them or compensate them for everything they do, regardless right or wrong. The poor are so poor where they have nothing to lose, while the rich could spare a few dollars to keep themselves physically safe from potential threats. hence, this is why u feel that the locals are "predatory". you may feel it's unfair, but this is how indonesia works. you may be as rich as you want, but practice humility or stomach the unfairness when u meet a regular local.
i salute ur bravery to rent and drive a car in indo. It's not easy honestly. Engaging a driver would have made ur trip easier. Traffic in Jkt is way worse than the one u had experienced in the sub-cities. Millions of motorcycles weaving through the mobils illogically, dangerously, stupidly.. putting the mobil drivers on the tenterhooks. The chinese drivers will have to automatically shoulder the blame of accident if it happens. (Remember chinese is still a minority in Indonesia.. and remember 98 Indo racial riots)
In general, indonesia is not a place for tourist if they wish to explore it alone without the help of any local friend who has a private transport (with the exception of bali). The locals are not educated enough to make this place welcoming enough for tourists to explore this country by. The road infrastructure is really bad - dun even think of taking public transport (buses/most taxis) in indonesia. You might get robbed, kindapped or killed if u're unlucky. You can hardly see any chinese indons taking public transport - they get ferried around in their private transport in fear of their safety. Even if they had to cross to the opposite building, they would rather drive over and get stuck in macet for 20mins instead of just walking across the road to the building in 2 minutes.
Well, if u had a local friend to bring you around, it would have been a different story. the locals wouldn't be that predatory if they know you have a local friend. and your friend would be able to bring you around indonesia more conveniently. Massage here is really cheap 90mins for Rp 35000. You can go to the local markets to find your old school toys and stuff. it's fun in a nostalgic way.
so.. yup. you have been brave to explore indo without the companion of a local friend and it's normal to feel that indonesia isn't tt friendly. However try seeing from another point of view whereby the poor economic conditions and ineffective government have caused the locals to turn predatory, perhaps tt will make u feel slightly better when u get cheated. at least you're helping one family to ease their financial situation!
cheers,
nat
Hi Nat and thanks for your message.
DeleteIt was not like I dashed into Indonesia without doing any research, I did speak at length to 2 friends. One was a Russian Hippie who lived 4.5 years in Ubud and loved it - but then again, he's a bit like a, "cities suck, Ubud rocks, I want to live in a hut in a kampong, I don't want to work in an office ever again." The other person I spoke to was a Singaporean-Malay friend who lived many years in Bandung and of course, she is totally fluent in Bahasa Indonesia and totally at home in Indonesia - she did tell me that she would usually use a driver but she has seen expatriates drive in Bandung. It was not like, "ARE YOU MAD? AWAK GILA? DON'T DRIVE!!"
I also went online and read a lot on the issue and quite frankly, the problem with all these online forums is that they are dominated by Americans who have left the country for the first time and freak out at anything and everything - and I recognize these idiotic Americans who are poorly traveled, don't speak a word of any other language and are just plain IGNORANT of foreign cultures. I was like, I know so much about Indonesia, I speak Malay and some Bahasa, I am not like any of those American travelers - and in hindsight, it was wrong of me to dismiss any travel advice written by Americans as some of them did have a point and it was foolhardy of me to imagine that those rules didn't apply to me just because I speak Malay. As you've explained above, I am Chinese and well, in the Indonesian context, that just made driving a really bad idea.
Well, I learned my lesson and all I want to do now, is to start a discussion, share the information and knowledge, so that other visitors to Indonesia can reap the benefits of this information and have a better experience.
Thanks again, terima kasih.