Let's start off with the basic concept of emigration - moving from your country of original to settle in another. How one views this prospects depends greatly on one's perspective of "the alternative path". When you are from Singapore, you have a pretty good idea what to expect as you observe older siblings, cousins and friends. Whereas moving to another country, adapting to a new culture, lifestyle and language is a huge change and you are venturing into the unknown. This will vary from person to person of course, some of you may have had friends & relatives who have emigrated and have shared stories with you, some of you may not. Now it takes a certain kind of individual (like myself I guess) to grab the bull by its horns and say, "yeah this sounds really fun, I'm sure it'll be an adventure."
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| How far will you go in search of greener pastures? |
You may argue that there's nothing all that wrong with being risk averse, by valuing certainty, having routine & structure in one's life - but let me show you how it can work against you. My sister (haha, I know you're going to read this!) has visited me in London many times and each time, she stays at the same hotel and every time, she would complain non-stop about it. Yes this rather old hotel in Bloomsbury claims to be a 4-star hotel but oh boy, the staff must suck as my sister would always have something to complain each time she is there. I tell her, look either stay with me (I have received guests who have made themselves very comfortable in my living room) or at least let me find you a better hotel. But no, she tells me that she likes the location (very convenient) and she is a creature of habit. She knows her way from the hotel: turn left for the tube station, turn right for the bus stop - walk down the road to head into the West End and there is the Tesco Metro supermarket around the corner for the late night snack raids.
Each time she books that hotel again she would assure me, "it's not so bad lah, the location is great - I don't wanna be staying out in the middle of nowhere, I'd hate to get lost. What if I end up somewhere even worse?" But there you go - the last time she was in London she came with her friend and she convinced her friend that the hotel was great. Oh boy. They both had a miserable time there and I was like, it's bad enough if you subject yourself to that place - but to get your friend to stay there with you? Good grief. Aiyoh.
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| There's a panda in my bed .... |
Heading into the unknown can be scary - the same way my sister was painting a worst case scenario about an even worse hotel in London. I'm sure worse hotels do exist in London - but in refusing to even consider a different hotel, she is forgoing the opportunity to stay at a better hotel. Likewise by the same token, sure there are some Singaporeans who are awfully pissed off with life in Singapore - but they pick and choose certain items of bad news from around the world (terrorist attacks, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, drought, war etc) to convince themselves that things could be far worse and they use the worst case scenario to be content with their lot. A typical statement they would come up with would be, "Yes whilst life in Singapore may be bad, but at least we don't have earthquakes."
Actually the Bogeyman that Singaporeans are obsessed with is racism - people like my dad are convinced that all white people inherently hate all Asian people (mostly because he hates white people and he assumes the hate goes both ways). It's ridiculous - yes all forms of bigotry does exist in the west: racism, sexism, homophobia, etc - but you're just as likely to suffer some kind of discrimination in Singapore! Heck, remember this? Two Chinese Singaporeans are more than happy to attack each other publicly without racism being a factor - ha! My dad hates white people (and doesn't speak English), he spends his days amongst other Chinese-speaking Singaporeans - so is he well loved and cherished by his fellow Chinese Singaporeans? No such luck dad, he gets into his fair share of arguments with his equally Chinese friends and relatives. Oh and he freaking hates PRCs on top of that! He has the same attitude as my sister when it comes to her choice of hotels in London: yes I may argue, quarrel and fight with my Chinese-Singaporean friends & family all the time here, but things could be far worse if I moved to another country.
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| I still don't understand my sister's choice of hotels in London... |
Who knows. That is an unknown entity that my dad has not and will not contemplate - but my point is simple. Simply refusing to entertain the possibility of an alternative doesn't make your current lot any more desirable nor will it solve the problems you have to deal with. Sometimes people call it the "sour grapes" mentality - well, it may not even be that. It may simply be a potent mix of stubbornness + resistance to change (even for the better) + a big dose of pessimism. The "sour grapes" justification is just an afterthought to justify one's choices in this context.
The fact is many Singaporeans allow this stubbornness, resistance to change and pessimism to cloud their judgement, hence they reject the possibility that they could end up in a much happier place somewhere else in this world. It's a risk you have to take when moving to another country and often, those who do decide to take the plunge infuse so much of their optimism and determination to make things work that they usually do end up successful and happy in their new countries. Those who are pessimistic would never even leave. It is ironic of course, that my dad did move countries - albeit a short distance from Malaysia to Singapore - but he did move countries nonetheless. Yet his justification was simple back then - in Singapore, Chinese people are in the majority, but in Malaysia, particularly in his hometown, there were very few Chinese people. It freaks him out that I am now a citizen of a country where Chinese people number just 0.5% - yup, not even 1%. I don't see that as a problem at all but my dad does.
One of the points raised in the article was, "the emotional ties to family". I think there is a lot of wrongful assumptions - now I grew up in a stereotypically Chinese-Singaporean family where I had a very difficult relationship with my parents, particularly my mother whom I just didn't get along with for much of my teenage years. I was convinced that she really hated me (don't get me started on that on) and I must have driven her half insane the way I simply stopped trusting her by the age of 14. Look, sometimes parents and children just don't get along - it was only moving away from Singapore that gave me the time and space to think about where we went oh so terribly wrong that allowed me to reconnect with my mother again. We're okay now I think, our relationship has improved a lot of late. I recognize the immense effort she is putting into caring for her disabled grandson and in some way, that is her redemption, her raison d'être.
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| Do you get along with all your family members? |
I couldn't wait to get out of Singapore, away from my family. Look, I hate it when people assume that we all want to be close to our parents - I was keen to prove to my family that I was independent enough to make it on my own without their help in another country. There must be some Singaporean adults who have had a difficult (or downright terrible) relationship with their parents. It would be wrong to assume that all 100% of Singaporeans have blissful, wonderful relationship with their parents. Gosh, I remember how a classmate of mine in JC ran away from home quite a few times during her two years at VJC and her parents would come all guns ablazing to the school, screaming their heads off, looking for her. A few of us would make sure my friend had time to hide whilst we grabbed an understanding teacher to try to reason with her crazy parents. Goodness me, so much drama! Sigh, my old classmate had an even worse relationship with her parents than I did. Eventually, my friend married an Englishman - I went to her wedding in the Midlands and that's where she is living today with her lovely husband. I am so glad she is happy today.
My dad also had a terrible relationship with his own parents - that's why he moved from his home town in Malaysia to Singapore to get away from them. Oh - and this sounds like a good point to tell you why I have a Hanyupinyin surname. No, I am not from China! My dad's from Malaysia, my mum's Singaporean and my dad's original surname was not in Hanyupinyin. at all. However, when he took on Singaporean nationality, not only did he change his given name - he even changed his surname. That was a big FUCK YOU to his parents, for they had this big Chinese thing about carrying on the family name. In changing his surname, that one gesture meant that even if he did have a son (ie. me), I would not be carrying on their family surname, but I would instead have a different surname. Hence my Hanyupinyin surname - et voila. So no, Limpeh is not PRC despite my Hanyupinyin surname.
| My dad was determined for me not to carry on his family name. |
So there you go - it's not just people from my generation who have had bad relationships with my parents, even people from our parents' generation have had bad relationships with their parents and the generation before that and so on. Do you know why? Parenting is a fine art - some people get it right, some people just fumble along and some people get it very wrong. There isn't an instruction manual, there aren't any training courses - parents just try their best and sometimes, even with the best of intentions, they still get things badly wrong. So whilst a loving family may be a reason to make you want to remain in Singapore, a difficult relationship with one's family may be a reason to make you wanna get the hell out of Singapore ASAP. It works both ways. In reality, most people are probably somewhere between the two extremes. They may not have a particularly good relationship with their families, but their not exactly fighting all the time either: they're simply not that close and the individual may be a lot closer to his/her good friends or spouse. This simply means that the emotional ties to one's family simply isn't as strong as Prof Yeoh describes. Think about it: how many of you have a family member you're not particularly close to? Do you have a sibling you often argue with?
Expanding on that point, if one has been treated well by the 'Singapore system' (or 'motherland Singapore'), then one can feel a certain sense of loyalty to the system that has been good to them. I was actually treated remarkably well by the 'Singapore system' as a student - by the time I reached JC, I already had two scholarships (MOE Humanities & Singapore Sports Council), was enjoying a great education whilst being on the national gymnastics team. The scholarship money gave me a new sense of independence. Life was very good and then I went from one extreme to the other. Life became really bad in NS, I had an awful time in my first year during my national service. I was shocked at how the same system can treat me so well in one year and then be so cruel to me in the next. Go figure. I didn't want to take my chances and let the rather fickle system decide if it wanted to love me or abuse me - hence I left. Please note that I didn't leave because I had a hard time in NS per se, but I left because the Singaporean system turned out to be a very fickle, unreliable lover that I simply didn't trust any more and I was willing to try my luck elsewhere.
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| How were you treated by the Singaporean system? |
The other issue touched on in the article was the question of whether life is more relaxed in the west. The writer even suggested that this was a fallacy - but having worked in Asia, Middle East and in Europe, let me compare & contrast the situation. The people who work the longest hours are the Koreans. Hands down. Coming close behind them are the people in Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore. PRCs have some way to go to catch up but they are not far behind. Americans tend to work really long hours too. In terms of the Europeans though, the Eastern Europeans tend to be the hardest working, whilst everyone lags behind. The best of the rest are the British and the Germans, whilst the rest - groan. Oh boy. Take your pick, they're all too busy taking it easy to notice that most of continental Europe is in such deep shit at the moment and they are counting on the Germans to bail them out. The Aussies and Kiwis are equally laid back too as are many Middle Eastern people.
Having said that, it's not like there's a one size fits all rule - there are some Singaporeans who do choose to take things easy, on their own terms. This includes people who are self-employed and are not obliged to obey the orders of a demanding boss. Likewise, there are people in Europe who do put in 75, even 80 hours a week working ridiculously hard. The fact is, you don't need to move to Australia or Sweden to reduce the number of hours you work a week - you simply need to make the necessary adjustments in Singapore, for example, by becoming self-employed rather than functioning as a small cog in a big machine. So yes whilst there is obviously a cultural bias in terms of the work cultures of these various countries, it's not as if one gets no choice whatsoever when it comes to one's career choices in any of these countries. We still get to make many fundamental decisions when it comes to our careers and lifestyles.
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| How many hours a week do you expect to work? |
At the end of the day, there are no short cuts in life. Those of us who choose to work shorter hours and have more time doing the fun things in life tend to earn less money - it is a trade off for a better life style. By the same token, those of us who do choose to put in longer hours and work much harder tend to be rewarded with greater success and higher pay - it is not rocket science. You reap what you sow, or as we say in Chinese: 一份耕耘,一份收获, it's pretty obvious really. If you're looking for a job where you can work very short hours but earn a lot of money, then dream on. Get real. If you think you can earn more money (or the same amount of money) whilst working less hours simply by moving to say Australia or New Zealand, then you're really barking up the wrong tree. You really should be thinking about how to improve your productivity to earn more money, rather than dreaming about short cuts like that!
There is a point though, which I felt the writer Joyce Hooi didn't address. Okay, I know she was not responsible for the survey's questions, but this is what she wrote, "For the first time in the history of Singapore, a whole generation of wage earners face the chilling possibility that their lives are going to be worse than their parents'." And I'm like, what has this got to do with emigration? If you're not able to become more successful and richer than your parents on home turf, in the country where you grew up - what are the chances of you achieving that in a far away foreign country? Granted that even if this assertion is true, how is emigration going to be the answer to it?
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| Trying to outdo your parents? It is not a level playing field. |
Sorry but I am going to be blunt (or even downright cruel). Some people will earn more than their parents, some won't. If your dad is Richard Branson or Sir Alan Sugar, then you will probably have a hard time trying to outdo him. But if your dad isn't earning much at all, then the bar is set pretty low to begin with. This is hardly a fair race to begin with - children are born with different IQs, different talents (or lack of) and different bodies. Given all these random factors thrown into the mix, how can one assume that it is somehow the fault of the state if you don't end up earning more than your parents? How about some personal responsibility?
Moving on to the issue of how how this changing nature of emigration in Singapore, allow me to quote from the article:
The World Bank has higher figures, with almost 300,000 Singaporeans considered migrants in 2010. "The way I teach migration now has changed. I don't teach it as uprooting and settling (but) as a fluid to-ing and fro-ing," says Prof Yeoh. It is a comforting thought that more people are not necessarily leaving for good, but what happens when the people you govern are no longer exclusively yours?
Well, isn't this a good thing? Citizens should never be "exclusively yours" in any country - I'd like to think about the relationship more like a marriage. When two people get married, they take their vows - whilst many couples choose to write their own vows these days, let's have a look at a far more traditional wedding vow:
I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.
Shouldn't the relationship between a state and a citizen be in the same spirit? However, what if one party decides to be a bit of a bastard - say if a husband becomes unfaithful, starts having affairs behind his wife's back, comes home late at night drunk and beats her up - what should the wife do in that case? Should she:
a) shut the hell up and put up with the abuse?
b) demand a divorce at once and leave the abusive husband?
Well, I do believe that the wife should always choose option b) for the simple reason that this was not what she signed up for - when she took her vows, they were vows based on a loving relationship, where her husband would be good to her. It seems obvious in the case of a husband and a wife, but what if we were to transfer that to the relationship between a state and the citizen? I say, loyalty - or more appropriately, patriotism - is a two way street. A state has got to earn that from the citizen by treating the citizen well, inspiring those feelings of patriotism - rather than demanding it on the basis of, "you were born here so you have to be patriotic otherwise I will call you a traitor and a quitter". Quite simply, if a state treats its citizens badly, the citizens will simply leave.
Now in the context of Singapore today - well educated, economically mobile Singaporeans are realizing that they are able to get good jobs in many countries around the world. Maybe some of them decide to leave for good at the very start whilst others may simply be following a job offer with no long term plans - either way, it leads them to spread their wings and the experience of living in another country does open their eyes an alternative to the Singaporean system.
Heck, do I really have to explain all this to you Singaporeans? How did you think our ancestors ended up in Singapore in the first place? They all had left their countries (China, India, Malaysia, Indonesia etc) to come to Singapore for a better life. You know that story already. The only difference is the advancement in technology which allows a Singaporean to be in London after a 13 hour direct flight, whilst a hundred years ago, a voyage from Xiamen to Singapore by boat could take many days, with many stops along the way. Furthermore, I can probably get a cheap LHR-SIN-LHR return flight for about £450/S$900 or so - it is remarkably affordable. Whilst that same journey from Xiamen to Singapore a hundred years ago would have been ridiculously expensive for those who made that journey. This means that migration has become a far more reversible process, unlike our forefathers who left their homelands and probably never ever saw their home towns ever again after they settled in Singapore. The technology involved may be different, the costs have gone down but the motivations for emigrating are still much the same.
Lastly, I want to respond to this point that Joyce Hooi made, "And the perception of job scarcity is bemusing, given that Singapore has a lower unemployment rate than the countries Singaporeans are moving to."
Australia: 5.2%
America: 7.8%
Canada: 7.3%
New Zealand: 6.8%
UK: 8.1%
a) The head teacher with 20 years experience and a great track record
b) The head nurse with 20 years experience and a great track record
c) The brain surgeon who is a leading expert in his field
d) The award winning architect who is a leading expert in his field
e) The superstar lawyer who has yet to lose a case after 20 years
f) The uneducated, lazy, unskilled, barely literate young person with an attitude problem (see below)
Yes we have a higher rate of unemployment, but it is the less educated, less skilled and less experienced at the bottom end of the food chain who are the ones most likely to end up unemployed. In any case, in the West, the bar is set very high (unlike Singapore! PRCs who don't even speak a word of English - need I go on?) There is a points-based system in countries like Australia, Canada and the UK which evaluates each potential migrant on the basis of their skills, earning potential, personal wealth, education, language skills etc. You need to earn enough points in order to qualify as a migrant - hence by that token, all these PRCs who don't speak English would instantly be rejected by all these countries in the west for they would never score enough points to get in.
Therefore those Singaporeans who do meet these high standards and can gain entry as a skilled migrant into these countries are so highly skilled they will have little difficulty finding work anyway. Frankly, these unemployment statistics affect those much lower down the food chain far more directly. I am talking those who are barely employable, who have so little skills and so little to offer - they are the ones who are on the verge of being thrown on the scrapheap of society. Now they are the ones who are the first to get chucked onto that scrapheap of unemployment when unemployment rises from say 6% to 8%. When times are hard and budgets are tight, the first workers you shed are the dead weight (or deadbeats) you can do without and you keep the far more productive, highly skilled workers.
Now these dead weight deadbeats have virtually nothing in common with the highly skilled migrants who are so much higher up the food chain. They move in completely different circles! At the end of the day, it is your social class and where you are in this food chain - that determines how vulnerable you are to the threat of unemployment. I'm not saying that highly skilled professionals don't become unemployed from time to time - but the fact is they are in a much better position to find another good job than someone who isn't as highly skilled. It is sickening how Singaporeans love gloating over unemployment statistics in the West without actually understand what it means in practice and how it disproportionately affects those much lower down the food chain.
Hence when a Singaporean looks towards countries like Australia, the UK or America for employment opportunities, there are so many reasons why s/he is contemplating that option. Assuming that the Singaporean is only looking abroad just because s/he cannot find work back home is acomplete fallacy utter bullshit. This is such a fucking stupid lie told over and over again by fucking stupid Singaporeans that it winds me up each time I hear it repeated by more fucking idiots. I have addressed the issue of why one should consider working abroad - there are so many good reasons why someone who is gainfully employed in Singapore should consider venturing abroad to spread his wings, embrace new experiences and broaden his horizons.
So there you go - one thing that Joyce Hooi assumed was that those who did want to leave are in some way pissed off with life in Singapore, when there could be those who may be perfectly happy with life in Singapore but are still looking to expand their range of experiences around the world. After all, haven't you been on holiday to a beautiful place and thought, "wow, I could live here, I totally love this place." Anyone who has done O level geography will know that we can break emigration motivations into two categories: pull factors & push factors. So far, Joyce Hooi has focussed almost entirely on push factors and has barely touched on pull factors. It's time to look at the other side of the equation, ie. "yeah Singapore's great, but wow (insert name of country) is a really awesome place too!"
So there you go, that's my take on the issue. What do you guys think? Are you a Singaporean looking to move abroad? Are you a Singaporean already working abroad? What are the push & pull factors affecting your decision? What are your motivations, ambitions and concerns? You know the drill guys - please leave a comment below and let's talk about it! Let me know what you think. Thank you for reading, as always.
Update: Follow the discussion here for more on Singaporeans & FTs http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/salah-salah-salah-lagi-salah-lah.html
Hence when a Singaporean looks towards countries like Australia, the UK or America for employment opportunities, there are so many reasons why s/he is contemplating that option. Assuming that the Singaporean is only looking abroad just because s/he cannot find work back home is a
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| Working abroad enables you to access opportunities not available in Singapore. |
So there you go - one thing that Joyce Hooi assumed was that those who did want to leave are in some way pissed off with life in Singapore, when there could be those who may be perfectly happy with life in Singapore but are still looking to expand their range of experiences around the world. After all, haven't you been on holiday to a beautiful place and thought, "wow, I could live here, I totally love this place." Anyone who has done O level geography will know that we can break emigration motivations into two categories: pull factors & push factors. So far, Joyce Hooi has focussed almost entirely on push factors and has barely touched on pull factors. It's time to look at the other side of the equation, ie. "yeah Singapore's great, but wow (insert name of country) is a really awesome place too!"
So there you go, that's my take on the issue. What do you guys think? Are you a Singaporean looking to move abroad? Are you a Singaporean already working abroad? What are the push & pull factors affecting your decision? What are your motivations, ambitions and concerns? You know the drill guys - please leave a comment below and let's talk about it! Let me know what you think. Thank you for reading, as always.
Update: Follow the discussion here for more on Singaporeans & FTs http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/salah-salah-salah-lagi-salah-lah.html













Hi LIFT,
ReplyDeleteI just read this post and the previous post. I am one of those Gen Y people that are contemplating emigrating. There are few reasons why. One reason is public housing. Public housing can getting too ridiculous expensive. During my Mum's era, a middle class family can expect a 3 room flat, now my generation can only expect a 2 room flat since the sudden increase in population have led to surge in demand for housing. Did I mentioned that newer built flats are smaller as well? Not to mention the long waiting period for BTO flats as well.
When I realized that the price of typical house in Singapore could fetch me a bigger, more comfortable house in other countries, I realised I am not getting a bang for the buck for the pigeon hole I am getting. In fact, more Singaporeans are now living in JB and transiting to Singapore daily for work because the price of a 3 room flat could get them a posh bungalow in JB.
Overcrowding is another issue. Recently, our PM has just announced that he intends to increase the population to 6mil. As if the current overcrowding problem of our public transport is not enough. Singapore is getting too overcrowded for my liking. In fact, I detest going out on weekends because of this reason.
I also want to buy a car without having to pay sky high COE. I recently got my driving license and it is sad that I will not be able to own my first car for several years without taking a blow to my finance.
However, all reasons aside, I have relatives who warned me that emigration is not for the weak hearted and govt in Western societies are never as efficient as the PAP govt. In fact, in Western society, I am expected not to expect much from the govt. This can be an issue to many Singaporeans who are generally quite dependent on our nanny govt for almost all solutions to our daily problem. If you are one of those typical Singaporean that blames the PAP for almost everything that gone wrong in your life and hope govt in other countries will be better, then you are in for a disappointment.
Hi there, thanks for your comment - allow me to respond.
Delete1. Property is just as expensive in other major cities in the West, the only difference is that there are sprawling suburbs where prices drop as you get further and further from the city centre. In the case of Singapore, there are no sprawling suburbs given that it's a small island - once you get north of Woodlands, it's JB. So dollar for dollar, a swanky apartment in downtown New York, London or Toronto may cost as much as in Singapore; whilst one in the suburbs would be more like the prices you can expect say in JB.
2. Yes I realize how many locals feel about the PAP's policy to grow the population to 6m.
3. I have a driver's license too but I don't drive despite cars being far more affordable in the UK for a simple reason: it's the cost of maintaining a car vs that of public transport (including taxis). Parking, road tax, insurance, petrol + getting stuck in traffic jams etc. If I had lived out in the countryside where I cannot depend on public transport, then it'll be a different story.
4. Your relatives are wrong - the system in the West is very different but people expect so much MORE from the government. Let me explain. In Singapore, you pay so little tax and the government gives you so little in return. In the UK, one pays up to 50% income tax and in return, the money is spent on the provision of social services for (mostly) the poor (housing benefit, welfare for the unemployed, the national health service etc) Such as public housing for example, do you know that in the UK, the provision of council housing for the poor costs the government so much money whilst in S'pore the attitude is, "never mind you are low income, we give you super long term loan, so you are in debt for the rest of your life + you can use your CPF".
It's more an issue of adapting to a different culture that is the big challenge. In any case, it's not like one can emigrate directly to any country ... the same way you apply for, say a place at a university. Let me break it down for you - here's how it works in the UK. First you get a work permit to work here, you work for 5 years, then you apply for PR (permanent leave to remain) - then after 2 years as a PR, you can apply for citizenship. So it's a 7 year long process! At any point in that 7 years, the individual will form an opinion as to whether s/he is better off in the UK or S'pore ... and obviously, depending on your character and what you're looking for in life, you will arrive at a conclusion either way in those 7 years. But that's a long time to figure this out - plenty enough I assure you.
Just in case you haven't read my last post on property in SG http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/property-season-part-2-get-real.html
DeleteHey Limpeh,
ReplyDeleteI just wanna respond to your point dismissing family and emotional ties as a reason not to leave the red dot.
Just to point out, you are:
1. Male (not nice to cite this as a factor,so instead of saying that guys are usually less "filial", let's say "less compassionate")
2. childless
3. have two sisters in Singapore willing and able to take up the slack as far as your parents are concerned.
most importantly, you being still young-ish, your parents are still sort of hale and hearty, and have not really started the usually inevitable decline in physical and mental health.
I used to feel pretty much as you do (cannot choose your relatives, etc), and when I was younger, indeed could not get far enough away from my family. I studied abroad, and in my late 30's, (hey, kinda your age!) made the move to a European country. As the prof said, nowadays with affordable air travel, its more a cases of "to-ing and fro-ing". Having a kid changes everything. You want your nearest and dearest (yes, your parents, despite how incredibly irritating and infuriating they are)to share in the joy of raising the kid. Particularly as each time you meet your parents you see them age....its a slippery slope downhill. Then one day a big illness hits one of them and they are not "independant" anymore. You realise how much you can do for them if you were only in Singapore.
Well, we returned to red dot after five years in Europe and have been here for the last 5 years about.....yes, back to gahmen policies, humidity, haze and local schooling system. I can't say that my parents aging was the only reason for the decision, but it was a big factor. My mother still looks back at the couple of years she was able to take care of my (then little) girl as some of the happiest times for her....picking her up from school, having her in the house until I pick up after work etc. Haha, she certainly did not enjoy looking after ME like that!
Anyway I'm just saying don't underestimate the pull factor of "aging parents". One of my best pals came back from the States (entire family) when the dad had cancer....to enjoy together whatever time they had left as well as to be there for the mom both before and after. I mean, if circumstances allow (job mainly), you don't want to be living your life half way around the world until you get that phone call to rush to the hospital at "the end" do you? That happened to a Canadian expat friend of mine living in Singapore, and he says its one of the biggest regrets of his life.
And wasn't "aging parents" the reason Melvyn Tan cited for returing to the red dot to "face the music"?
Just saying.....
Hi there and thanks for your comment.
DeleteYes I do recognize everything you're saying. Please allow me to respond.
1. I think there is an element of "he's following his father's footsteps". My dad did exactly the same thing - ie. difficult relationship with his parents, had to move from his home town in M'sia to S'pore. It's only with modern technology that I can get further away - but the same principle applies and my dad kinda just accepts that I am a chip off the old block in the way I resemble him. Heck, the scary thing is even my body language is a chip off the old block in the way I stand - we adopt the same pose when we stand, crikey. Even my mother recognizes that I take after my dad in that aspect - the stubbornness, the rebelliousness etc.
2. Amongst my 2 sisters, I have one sister who is far more likely to pick up the responsibility of caring for my parents if and when the need arises - my other sister has a disabled child and has her hands very full already. Crikey, how is she gonna cope without my parents' help? My parents are doing so much for this poor disabled child right now you realize?
3. I have zero desire to have children and never will - so many reasons. I will write a whole post on it one day. Can't summarize it here.
4. One of my sisters who has lived all her life in S'pore still has plenty of unresolved issues with my parents and argue non-stop with them all the time still - it is unreal. I'll spare you the details, my point is simply that proximity doesn't automatically bring you happy families. It takes more of an effort to deal with decades of unresolved bullshit. One day I will tell you some of the stories about the fights my sister has with my mother but good grief, at least I stopped fighting when I moved abroad. My sister has stayed behind and continued fighting into her 40s. Go figure.
5. Melvyn Tan could've met his parents in JB. Just saying y'know ... I know his parents are old and frail but surely they could've still made it to JB?
6. But mate, I truly appreciate your POV, thanks so much for sharing. Kum siah. I just wanted to show that the issue of one's family being a push/pull factor is far more complex than they have made it out to be - and you have just introduced another dimension to it, and I thank you for that.
I second LSH's point about aging parents being a strong motivator to stay here. It's something you dont think about until it happens to you. Has it ever occurred to you that your parents hope you'll spend their twilight years with them; would you want to?
ReplyDeleteAnyway, a yearlong stint in Melbourne recently opened my eyes to how other people live. Their views of time & stages of life had the biggest impact- witnessing the seasons really does something to your psyche!
I never considered migrating; like you say, the fear of loss is greater than the desire for gain, esp in a culture known for being kiasu, scared to lose. Sporeans are conditioned to see things in a 'must always win, win & win' light -even our govt keeps saying we 'cannot afford to lose' or else we'll fall so far back we wont be able to get out of the rut, may not even survive.
Thats why my cohort (unlike the gen-Y folks), people in their 40s & 50s, are very risk averse. This has led to us being contented with a comfortably simple, but ultimately unfulfilling, life. Not making any excuses for myself I fully recognise I am a typical 'remain in Spore & kao beh kao bu' type (but only realised it after reading your blog, which seems to understand my kind of mindset very well even though you are nothing like that).
The other thing about my generation is, we tend to see everything in monetary terms. Willing to forego a sense of adventure, forays into the unknown, novel encounters, broader horizons -just because after all's said & done, at the end of the day we're going to find the balance in the bank might've been higher if we'd stayed home.
So between enjoying more freedom & even possibly marginally higher pay abroad but paying full price for medical /admin services etc, versus remaining in predictable restrictive Spore but can get subsidised rates for most govt-related stuff, Spore appears a more logical choice. ONLY because a 'more freedom less predictability' life overseas no matter how attractive, cannot be measured in dollars & cents.
Feel free to rip apart these erroneous attitudes using some of your fantastically humorous anecdotes.
Hi again my friend and thanks for your comment.
Delete1. I look at what my dad did - he did visit his mother regularly (despite not being on good terms with her) right till the end and they never really resolved anything up till her death. I feel for my dad because I can understand it takes 2 hands to clap. If one party simply says, "never mind, let's move on" but the other party makes zero effort to make any kind of gesture of reconciliation - then you cannot move on unilaterally; or at least that kind of one sided reconciliation is ... not quite the same as both parties committing to improve the relationship.
I am kinda like that with my parents (esp my mum) - I am like, "never mind let's move on" but she doesn't like to talk about the past and when we try to, she plays the "I am old, my memory is failing me, I cannot remember those things you talk about" card. Therefore, she is not willing to try to reconcile or resolve anything ... but I know she wants to move on, but it's a frustratingly one-sided process.
I think for my parents to want to spend their twilight years with me, they will have to make some effort to at least resolve the past. I don't actually believe my mother when she claims that her memory is failing her - she has very selective amnesia when it comes to things she'll rather forget, but when it comes to things she wants to claim credit for, her memory is 100% perfect. Go figure.
I don't wanna end up like my sister who sees them so often but argues with them all the time - yeah what is the point of spending their twilight years with them when all you do is argue, bitch and fight all the bloody time? Groan! There is the difference between quality time and just ... time spent together. I just wanna introduce a dose of reality into the situation here.
You see, when I am in S'pore, everyone seems to be on their best behaviour as they wanna impress me, like "see? we're all doing so well here". Even my autistic nephew is well behaved in front of me (he is rarely that well behaved I was informed). But after a few days, they drop the pretence and go back to fighting in front of me. Duh. So please, all I wanna do is compare & contrast the situation between my sister and I and being close to my parents doesn't necessarily mean getting along with them or 'happy families'.
All I have to do is to start to speak to my dad about my sister and he would start ranting. And for the next 30 minutes, I would just put him on speaker phone and let him rant away, "ni na ge jie jie ah, aiyoh! etc etc etc" You get the idea.
2. I just wanted to point out to you that different countries have different systems when it comes medical care. In the UK we have the NHS which means a lot of things are free at the point of access and this is funded by the tax payer. But in the US, one is totally reliant on private medical insurance to pick up the bills when one is ill. Big difference.
Hey limpeh and chin toh, interesting to hear from someone from (hehe....more or less) my gen.....ie 40's n 50's.
ReplyDeleteYou know, for people of this age, apart of having older parents, there would b much fewer push factors, unlike for the young en's now. So don't beat yourself up about having no adventurous spirit, u r also in a better position than guys say 10 or 15 years after u.
When my gen hit the work life in the 80's n 90's, there were a lot more opportunities available as as long as u had a decent degree, it would b fairly straightforward to get on the conveyor belt and just keep pace to attain your 4 C's. I guess we just rode the growth of the last 20 something years, despite the ups and downs along the way.....SARs etc. To say nothing of property prices and coe's then and now.
So it's not surprising that a survey recently showed that Singaporeans in the 20-35 age group were most unhappy. (Please correct me if I got the age group wrong....I just remember it was the age that should b the most up and coming that was the most unhappy, overworked and unrewarded.) . And I was thinking, no wonder, all the upper positions are already taken by the 'seniors', and those guys r not retiring for some time yet!
Alamak, I am 36 lah, skidding towards middle age already.
DeleteAre we in a better position than those younger than us? I don't know - I look at the opportunities that these kids have and the amount of different technology has made in terms of them accessing information on the internet; whilst in our days, we were so limited to what we could learn about the world: tv, movies, magazines, books in the library etc. It's like yeah these youngsters have bigger challenges, but they are better equipped to deal with these challenges, don't you think?
Young people can cope with today's challenges IF they keep pace with the blinding speed of technology. But human evolution is comparatively slow.
DeleteI may be veering off topic here, but since you're adamant about not having kids, have you considered donating to a sperm bank? You have a special rare mutation -your brain works as fast as a CPU, with similar memory capacity to boot. Imagine the wonders this mutation could do for the future of the human race!
Your family undoubtedly has quality genes. When your sis had her boy, she must have hoped he'd take after you (who wouldn't -you're every parent's wet dream)! He still might -your 'breakout' age was 14 & he still has a few years to go, right? But your nephew is the only offspring in your family; it seems a waste not to spread the seed a little further..
Forgive me if Im butting into your personal life, it's just.. I'd give anything for my kid to have that kind of ability. Contemplating his future gives me heart seizures :(
Hahahaha, sperm bank!?!?! No, never ever thought about it, that thought has never crossed my mind. I just don't believe that you can pass genes on like that. With all due credit to my sister (ie. the mother of my nephew), she is equally brilliant as I am academically and is a super high achiever. She earns more than I do and was great at sports etc. Her husband works in finance and is just as brilliant on paper - but my nephew is struggling big time because he is autistic. I was breaking out from my mother's control over me but this kid's problem is medical lah - autism is a mental disability that has no cure (and believe you me, my family has spent thousands on therapy, treatments etc to no avail). My nephew couldn't be more different from my sister - yet he came from her womb, such is the nature of passing one's DNA to the next generation. It's doesn't always work the way you'd hope it would.
DeleteAnd I'd like to think that I've got more than just good memory - though it helps. I am currently doing Korean lessons and I am able to remember far more than the other students without even revising. Somehow I just hear it once or twice and it gets recorded in my brain. It's a gift that helps me get through exams with less mugging - but it's what you do with the information that matters, right?
Take my blog for example. I know I write well, that's why I have readers like you who come back and want to be a part of this blog and interact with me :) I didn't just memorize the English dictionary and have a rich vocabulary in English - I took what I had with the English language and applied it: expressing my ideas in a way that is fun to read, creating a pleasant reader experience, often with the use of humour.
So it is this application of my knowledge that is the part where I add value to the process - that is what matters, rather than just the memorizing of information (which admittedly is useful a a student).