Tuesday, 28 August 2012

PR firm Thox dumps Diner En Blanc! Part 3

This is part 3 of Limpeh's coverage of the Diner en blanc fiasco. If you haven't already read part 1 and part 2, I suggest you start there. Moving on, no doubt some of you would've read the story that has emerged on social media today that PR firm Thox has dumped Diner en blanc as their client.  Allow me to quote from the MSN article:

The split was finalised on August 24, the same day public backlash started on Twitter. This was before a statement of apology from the Singapore and international organisers was made on August 25. In it, the organisers said they "had some misfortunes in communicating the right information" and stressed that local food was allowed, although 'junk' or 'fast' food is discouraged. When contacted, a representative from Thox would only say that the organiser's actions were "against agency ethics" and disagreements over handling matters happened even before public backlash occurred last Friday. The representative also said that the statement discouraging local food was not made by Thox.

Thanks to the various people who have brought this piece of news to my attention and have asked me to respond to it. Well quite frankly, it doesn't surprise me - Thox risked their long term business prospects in continuing to be associated with DEBS after the major gaffe they made with Daniel Ang. They were unwittingly shoved in the front line after they were the ones who had to ask Mr Ang to remove his blog post regarding the local dishes he suggested that diners could bring to DEBS.
Now the question that I want to answer is this: "What are the contractual implications for breaking a contract like that, so close to the actual event?"

I am only able to speak from experience having dealt with PR contracts within the world of financial services, and speculate on what the implications are as every contract is unique. The contract that Thox has signed with DEBSOC/DEBI is confidential so I am only discussing about the issue hypothetically rather than guessing what has happened. Frankly, unless an insider wants to speak up and share the lurid details with us, we will never know.
What kind of working relationship did Thox have with DEBSOC?

Firstly, DEBSOC/DEBI would've paid a hefty price for Thox to handle the PR for the event - now I imagine that a contract like that usually would not require payment up front, but the payment would be staggered over the run up to the event as such.
  • 50% up front, upon signing the contract 
  • 20% one month before the event 
  • 20% the day after the event 
  • 10% a month later (as the PR company would need to follow up after the event) 
Now I am not suggesting that this is the payment schedule agreed between Thox and DEB - but this is pretty typical as it is designed to protect the client. So if the PR company fails to deliver what was agreed in the contract, the client hold the next installation of the payment ransom and delay payment and use that to coerce the PR company to deliver what was agreed. The PR company will need some payment up front to cover their expenses - hence the 50% up front which is quite average in this business. The PR firm has to offer terms favourable to the client as this is standard practice, otherwise the client will simply say, "I don't like your terms and conditions" and use a different PR firm who will offer favourable T&C. 
Have you read the small print on the contract? 

However, what happens when one party breaks the contract? Ah, the first question is this: is it the client or the PR firm who wants to break the contract? After all, there are always terms and conditions that would punish the party who breaks the contract. There are three possibilities: 
  • Thox dumps DEB
  • DEB dumps Thox
  • Both parties mutually agree to split 
From the story on MSN, it does seem that it was Thox who dumped DEB as a client. I could be wrong, but I am basing that on the report on MSN. Thox seems pretty anxious to distance themselves from the DEBS fiasco, telling MSN that "the organiser's actions were "against agency ethics" and disagreements over handling matters happened even before public backlash occurred last Friday. The representative also said that the statement discouraging local food was not made by Thox."
Clearly the folks at Thox have nothing against local cuisine. 

In terms of the money Thox would've been paid by DEBS, it is clear that they are willing to forgo the remaining installation(s) of payment in breaking the contract like that. Now depending on the T&C of the contract, given the way Thox has unceremoniously dumped DEBS days before the event, creating even more controversy and making DEBS look even worse - DEBS could argue that Thox had failed to deliver the kind of PR which was required of them as per the contract and could even demand part or all of the initial payment back. Indeed, there probably would be some clause in the contract defining what would happen if one party were to break the contract and what kind of clawback could apply in such situations. 

What happens next? Well, Thox could either be nice and just refund whatever DEBS demands, or they could play hard ball and refuse on the grounds that the client was uncooperative and difficult to work with.  DEBS may wish to avoid further negative publicity (as if there isn't enough already!) by simply letting the matter rest with Thox by not applying the clawback clause - lest it led to a court case where both parties end up suing each other and Thox could be in a position to make the people at DEBSOC look very bad (as if they don't look bad enough already!). The possibility exists for DEBS to sue Thox for unceremoniously dumping them last minute days before the event, rendering it very hard for DEBS to replace them - but it would be highly unlikely for DEBS to pursue this given that Thox would have a pretty good defence and they may lose an expensive legal battle (which they can ill-afford at this stage). Don't forget, DEBS is a commercial event and with this much crap going on - will they be able to generate a profit at all? 
How will Thox and DEBS settle this issue? 

I cannot predict what Thox would do - but I give them credit for taking the very brave step in dumping DEBS as a client at this stage to save their reputation. It is the right thing for them to do and I would've done the same thing. After all, it can be very frustrating trying to do PR for a client who simply will not listen to you. What do you do in such a situation? 

Let me tell you this story from China. A very wealthy businessman walks into an exclusive restaurant in Beijing with his friends and demands to be served the very best, the most expensive and special dishes the restaurant has to offer. Rising to the challenge, the chef meets the wealthy businessman and makes a few suggestions along with the prices. The businessman is disappointed as the chef had suggested dishes he was already familiar with - he then caught sight of the ornamental pond in the corner of the room where there were a number of ornamental koi fish swimming around. "I want to eat fresh koi! How much for all of the fish in that pond there?"

The chef tried to explain - that is ornamental koi, the koi were selected for their colour, not for their taste, hence it was not on the menu. "If you wish to have a fish dish, I have various kinds of fresh fish available for your selection sir. Besides, the koi is very expensive..."
"I want to eat fresh koi," he said. 

At that point the businessman got angry and shouted, "You think I cannot afford to pay for your expensive fish?! Do you have any idea how rich I am?" He banged the table and made the manager an ultimatum: either all the ornamental koi were to be cooked for him and his guests, or they would leave immediately and spread the word that the restaurant was awful. The manager caved into pressure and ordered the chef to catch every single one of koi fish and cook them. The chef tried his best and used his best recipes with the koi - but it doesn't change the fact that koi isn't particularly suited for fine dining because they are a very bony fresh water fish. Such is the nature of fresh water fish. 

Needless to say, the businessman and his guests struggled with the very fine fish bones and then complained to the manager that the dishes were not good enough. When presented with the bill for the dinner, the businessman was extremely displeased and paid up - but swore that he would tell everyone he knew that the restaurant served overpriced bad fish. 

The restaurant manager was placed in a no-win situation. His reputation was going to be ruined anyway because the guest was unreasonable - the guest had refused to take the advice of the chef who knew how to prepare the most delicious cuisine. Whether or not he served the koi, the guest was going to leave the restaurant very unhappy. Such is the situation with Thox and DEBS - was Thox stuck between a rock and a hard place? Was Thox struggling with a client who refused to take their advice? 
How do you handle a difficult client?

There has to be some common sense and an effort to be reasonable by both parties in such a working relationship. When you go to a restaurant, you accept the better judgement of the chef to prepare the dishes according to his recipes. When you go to a club, you accept the better judgement of the DJ to play the best songs to create a party atmosphere. If you don't like the chef's recipes or the DJ's choice of music, then fine - you can always cook your own meals and create your own playlist with iTunes. If DEBS was prepared to hire Thox as a PR agent, then they should have been prepared to listen to them. Why did they bother with Thox in the first place if they were not prepared to listen to them and think they know better than Thox? 

I feel sorry for Thox really, but this is hardly the first time this has happened in the industry. I do feel that Thox should've had the balls to stand their ground and tell DEBS, "You cannot do this, you're making a terrible mistake!" But the fact that "disagreements over handling matters happened even before public backlash occurred last Friday" suggests that perhaps they did try to warn DEBS already but were ignored. What I really want to know is this: who was the idiot at DEBSOC who overruled Thox? Was it Clemen Chiang? Who should be the one blame? Who is most responsible for this PR fiasco? How I wish some insider would spill the beans!
Who is the culprit? Whose fault is it? 

Now the big question is: will DEBS be able to bounce back from this? Are they able to handle their PR on their own without any help from Thox? Would another local PR firm like to pick up where Thox left off? Have DEBS learnt their lesson from Thox's departure? Would DEBI ever trust this local team in Singapore ever again? Will the event be a success after all this controversy? What do you think? Leave a comment below, thanks. 

The saga continues...

9 comments:

  1. If Clemen Chiang didn't overrule THOX, then the only other person is his wife Nicole Yee - they are the only 2 person listed as DEBS hosts.

    They will still continue but expect a lot of cancellation and withdrawals, already visible on DEBS blog. Which self-respecting person who value their dignity will still be so foolish to attend and have their photos taken for everyone to see and laugh at?

    This DEBS event is tainted beyond repair.

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    1. Thanks for the update Lynne. I haven't had the chance to look at the DEBS page yet - but I get the feeling that a lot of people already ordered wine/champagne from the organizers so they would go ahead with it anyway controversy or not.

      I have nothing against the concept of DEB per se, but I despise Clemen and Nicole for the way they have dealt with the issue of Tauhuay and local food. In my next blog post (finished the draft, but needs editing) - I really stick the knife in. Akan datang!

      I would love to do DEB in London as the weather is perfect for it - as I look out of the window, it's 7:30 pm, bright sunshine, blue skies, splendid evening and the temperature is 18 degrees. I was out and about earlier and there were people sitting and chilling in the parks, catching up with their friends, enjoying a beautiful evening. Perfect weather for the kind of DEB event. Whereas in Singapore, the weather is always too hot - it's hard to look elegant and classy when you are sweating like a trooper. Tolong lah, Limpeh has served NS, I have spent enough time sweltering in the humid, tropical heat of Singapore. Oh and mosquitoes. And the threat of a tropical downpour. Imagine if it rained during DEBS?!

      Would you go Lynne? I guess from your post, the answer is no. I would not attend DEBS simply because of the way I dislike Clemen and Nicole - but any other city, yeah it sounds fun.

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  2. (Apologies in advance .... a rather long post....)

    Well, if it is any consolation to the DEB Singapore team, it's that the DEB NY made a major boo-boo last year (inaugural year) which left many angry, but it was all fine and dandy this year.

    I think perhaps Thox was not or ever was going to be paid at all i.e. it was a barter agreement ("exchange of services") of sorts, which is not uncommon among businesses especially small ones. You know, I provide my expertise, and in exchange I get associated with your "prestigious" event. Take a look at the DEBI's FAQ, and there you will see that registration fees cover the direct costs related to the event only.

    In this case, Thox was probably lied to by DEBS (intentionally? mistakenly?), and with its name dragged through the mud, I believe Thox decided it was better to cut its losses. But what puzzles me is why would you ask the blogger to take down his post? And diss the local favourites (food) with the finesse of a hippo? And to uninvite him at the same time with a lame excuse? I see the arrgance of DEB at play here, and therefore that Thox dumped them before the apology appeared on the DEBS's website is actually very interesting piece of info. Kudos to Thox I guess.

    BTW, did you read the latest update of DEBS's website? It was another attempt by DEBI to set the record straight, and it also covers a little bit about how DEBI operates. I don't know if it's going to help simply because not many would bother to read it (esp with the facebook page disabled). Also, the reason for the "anti-French" backlash among some is due to the fact that on Daniel's blog, it was stated that it was both DEBI and DEBS that asked him to delete his blog and decided that local food was a no-go. Many would take that to mean that it was DEBI that was calling the shots with DEBS meekly going along with it. And unfortunately, I doubt many would have bothered to go to DEBS's website to learn more. BTW - should this have happened to any other DEB, I guarantee the reaction would have been the same simply because people will not be bothered to plough through details. Which is why the counter message (esp an apology) has to be short and to the point (and not a bloody essay). And DEBS should have sent the apology to Daniel and asked him to put it up on his website too.

    And on a totally unrelated point, before the Facebook page was taken down, there was a message by DEBS that the French organiser is flying in from China for the event, sans a date. And ladies were invited to apply to be his date for the evening. I mean, seriously? Is this an elegent behaviour? I wonder if Thox started flipping out at this point?

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    1. Hi Anthea, thanks so much for taking the time to write such a long post - I love it when I get to interact with my readers like that. Kum siah, merci.

      I will reply to your points a bit later, but in the meantime, may I direct you to the latest post I've written on the issue: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/latest-statement-from-diner-en-blanc.html

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    2. PS your made me roll on the floor with laughter with this line. "And diss the local favourites (food) with the finesse of a hippo?"

      LOL, thanks!

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    3. OK a few points for you Anthea:

      1. Judging from Thox's track record http://www.thox.sg/Thox/Clientele.html I don't think they're desperately looking to expand their portfolio - look at some of the big corporate clients they've had. Maybe a smaller firm would do things for free if they are desperate to gain some experience, but that's not Thox.

      Nonetheless, there is the possibility that Thox may have done it for free as a favour if someone at Thox was a good friend of Clemen/Nicole & gang. Yes the registration fee covers only the cost of the event - but don't forget the commercial element (eg. sale of alcohol at the event) of the event + sponsorships mean that there will be money around to pay for Thox's service should Thox decide to charge for it.

      2. In any case, DEBI is HQed in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Not France. That is why I am so frustrated by Singaporeans who are on this anti-French rampage when really, they're not even directing their anger at the right country. Like seriously salah lah alamak, aiyoh!!!

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  3. 1. The thing is the list of clients tells us nothing ... did Thox work for these clients on one-off projects, do they work for the clients on ad-hoc projects or are they employed on a retainer basis? Client list tells us very little about the status of a company.

    As for the sale of the alcohol, I understand that the organisers have to sell it via an appointed company because of liquor laws governing open spaces in certain locations. It is also to control the amount of liquor consumed (hence one would need to order it by a certain deadline, and there is a limit of two bottles in total per table). Now one does not need to consume alochol as water is provided gratis, again through a partner. Ditto for gourmet food baskets (again optional for participants to purchase if they so desire). Does DEB get a commission? As a non-commerical organisation (as stated on its website) can it? I guess the excess money could go into a kitty for future use, but this gets messy, no? I suspect they (DEBI) want to keep things as simple as possible (meaning no commission?). But now you've got me thinking - what happens to the excess funds from registration fees, if any, since the chapters are run by volunteers?

    Don't get me wrong, I think DEB is a wonderful idea, and the participant fee is kept low if any. And that DEBS got it going in Singapore (where the gathering of more than five brings out the riot police) by working with the authorities mean that the hosts and their team have done a good job in that aspect (hey credit where credit is due)

    Back to the organisation's finances - well, I have no clue, and frankly, never thought of asking about it. Interesting eh how most people (including me) are quite happy to hand over cash, and take the organiser's word for how it is spent? You've opened the pandora box my friend!

    2. Until you mentioned it, I had no idea that DEBI was based in Montreal, and frankly, I bet 90% of participants worldwide wouldn't have a clue (and wouldn't care) either (and if you ask them, they would probably say Paris). Guess many know that it started in Paris, and some probably that the son of the founder is now at the helm. But I doubt many would have give DEBI a second thought.

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    1. Thanks again for your post.

      1. Erm, depends lah. I can also give you a very long list of corporate clients I have worked for over the years but I wouldn't include anyone I did a freebie for. It just wouldn't count. I think the rationale behind such a list is (take Thox for example) - Singapore Art Museum is one of their clients. If I was looking for a PR agent for my company in Singapore, I would think, "Ah if SAM was willing to pay good money for Thox, then they should be alright." It is that vote of confidence from SAM - now imagine, if I called up SAM and they said, "oh they did us a freebie..." Then it'll make Thox look bad right?

      I have gotta admit, yes I've done a few freebies in the past when trying to break into creative media - but I did then move past that and was able to get quality paid work. So if I have to compile a list of my best corporate clients for a website, I would selectively leave out the freebies and pick the ones who paid me good money to go on there - so someone like you could ring up the client and they would tell you, "yeah we used him, he wasn't cheap though but he did a good job."

      I really don't see the point in putting a freebie job on a website like this, cos at the end of the day, everyone in PR wants to get paid work rather than keep on doing freebies.

      2. Excess funds - of course there will be excess funds. I don't know what the rules are governing things like that in Singapore - so I am hoping a local will advise us. In the UK, we have a concept known as profit-share: ie. all revenue will go to cover the costs and if there is any money left over, it will then be shared equally amongst the volunteers.

      3. This is a grey area I guess with regards to finances - are you getting the transparency you deserve? It boils down to whether or not you trust the organizers - and I don't trust Clemen. No way. No freaking way. The guy has such a bad reputation.

      4. Have you read the latest post by ishootieatipost where they met up with Aymeric and Sandy for chicken rice in Bedok?

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    2. Late reply, but as the cliché goes, better late than never .....

      1. Technically speaking, an exchange of services does not mean the services are provided free of charge. It just means that the service provided by company A is equal in value to that provided by company B, and hence no actual cash is exchanged, even if invoices are issued.

      In your scenario, SAM would never mention that it received the services for free, unless it is for a charity event, for fees usually vary by clients and scope of the job, and also because, for example one client may be better at squeezing the vendor for discounts than another.

      Look at the success stories put out by companies, large and small. For weight loss companies, it is an open secret that the "models" either received the services for free or for substantial discounts. For larger companies, it may be that the discount is tied to the client being the poster child. I'm not saying this is always the case, but that this happens should not surprise you. And if you were to talk to them, they might be open about the service provided, but I will be surprised if they were open about the fees paid or the discounts received.

      2. I can only speak about how it is in Switzerland (as far as I know) as I live here currently. The excess funds can be divided among the committee members or whoever as long as it is provided for in the statute of the organisation, and approved by its members. In the case of Diner en Blanc, they would have a problem as all the attendees are considered members. They could get around this of course by having the initial committee pass the statute before members are accepted but it would still need to be transparent to the new members.

      3. Yes, and my comments appear just before yours. Plus I replied to someone else who went on about how the event is an opportunity for the great unwashed to be in the same vicinity as the "upper echelons of society" or something to the effect (she actually thought this was a plus point for the event).

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