Saturday, 11 December 2021

This is one aspect of my job I am struggling with.

Hi guys, I have been thinking of doing a follow up to three posts I have done earlier this year about how things have been going in my new job - my regular readers will know that I started a new job in July this year and well, I don't want to do the social media thing where I try to portray this image that everything is wonderful and that I'm so happy there. Every job has their up and downs but compared to some of the crap that my sisters have to put up with in their jobs in Singapore, I have little to complain. I guess everything is relative when it comes to comparisons like that - I know I am better off than a lot of people who have to put up with far more crap than I do but then again, things aren't perfect either where I am and I hesitated to do this post because I don't want to come across as a very ungrateful person who is splitting hairs over one aspect of work that I am struggling to deal with. But on the other hand, I did think that by speaking up quite honestly about it, there may well be others who have had to deal with this aspect in their work as well and there's nothing wrong with saying, "I'm struggling with this aspect of my job and please can I speak about this with others, let's support each other and share the empathy, love and goodwill." So with that in mind, I am going to speak about one aspect of my job that I don't like but will have to find a way to deal with it and so really, I just want to have an honest conversation about it.

For those of you who aren't familiar with my blog, my name is Alex, I'm 45 and I work in investment banking in London. The aspect of my work which I am uncomfortable with is the drinking culture - there is a lot of drinking in my industry and I'm completely teetotal. I have not touched a molecule of alcohol out of choice for well over 22 years. If I may be honest, I don't even recall when I stopped drinking, it wasn't a conscious decision that I made one day - actually, I did drink quite a lot when I was in my late teens when I was in the army and into my university days, but one day I just decided not to drink any more. I remember how I really enjoyed drinking when I was not old enough to drink yet; you have to be 18 years old to be served alcohol in Singapore though technically speaking, there's no legal age per se for drinking - so I wasn't technically breaking the law when I was buying a beer when I was 16 and 17 in Singapore and it was the person selling me the beer who was breaking the law. The forbidden fruit was always sweeter and I suppose it was an act of rebellion to do something I wasn't old enough to do, that I was not supposed to do not only prove that I was grown up but I was a law breaking criminal. Then one day, I realized I was an adult in my 20s - I could get hopelessly drunk and it was considered completely normal, it wasn't illegal, it wasn't even an act of defiance or anything like that given how people drank so heavily in London (I had moved here in 1997). In sharp contrast to my teenage years (oh gosh I even smoked back then, for the same reason), when drinking (and getting drunk) was no longer consider a criminal act of rebellion; so suddenly it had lost its appeal to me altogether and therefore I just stopped drinking - just like that around the age of 23. 

Heavy drinking certainly isn't unique to British culture - this is an issue from America to South Korea to Russia to China to Argentina. Even in countries where alcohol is supposed to be banned like Iran and Saudi Arabia, there is a huge underground network of illegal alcohol being bought, sold and consumed by the locals - if they were anything like me as a teenager, the illegal nature of it probably formed part of the appeal. Even my sister in Singapore once worked in a company where she was under a lot of peer pressure to join in her colleagues when they went drinking and boy, they did drink very heavily much to my parents' displeasure and disapproval. I spoke to a close friend and work associate John (his real name actually and he's a really nice guy I have the privilege of working with) about the topic, he explained it this way to me. "Many people in these jobs are under a lot of stress and alcohol is their one way to deal with that stress. When people consume alcohol, it has an immediate physiological effect on them and thus for a moment, whilst they are intoxicated, they forget whatever problems they have. Is this a healthy way to handle your stress? Of course it isn't, but a lot of people do it anyway. I choose to consume alcohol in moderation because I don't believe in using alcohol to forget my problems but I have worked with a lot of people who actually do that and I can certainly understand how challenging it is to have to deal with people like that. I even know of doctors who drink so heavily and their medical understanding of the damage they are doing to their bodies doesn't stop them from drinking like that because they are reacting to the stress they face at work in the hospital - that's what drives them to that kind of very heavy drinking. They just wanna get drunk once they come off the long shift; this is something that happens across different industries, in different countries." 

I am already so different from the people I work with and have to deal with on a daily basis: I'm Asian in an industry where there are hardly any non-white people, I'm an immigrant who didn't grow up in the UK, I have working class roots in an industry dominated by people from more privileged backgrounds and on top of that, I'm openly gay, so at this point, I have lost count of the ways I'm already so different from everyone else around me so I never ever went down the route of "I'm so British, I'm so totally assimilated you can't tell I'm different." No, rather my selling point has always been, "I'm so brilliant at what I do you're never going to find someone like me." My good friend John (the same guy I quoted above) pointed out to me, "I've dealt with a big investment bank before and they had one Spanish-speaking guy dealing with the Spanish speaking markets, one French-speaking guy dealing with the French-speaking markets, one Chinese speaking guy dealing with the greater China region, etc. You speak 25 languages and you're head of global business development - you're doing the job of a whole team of people and there's certainly no one else who has that unique combinations of technical skills and languages. When you're that highly skilled, you don't need to fit in because you're so unique in your abilities that you naturally stand out anyway - think about people who work in an environment like a factory where they manufacture cars, you have hundreds of workers doing the same kind of job. That's where they have a far greater degree of conformity, a culture of fitting in, that is not what you do Alex. You're never going to fit in, as Oscar Wild said: be yourself, everyone else is taken - just focus on what you do best and put aside those things that you cannot change." 

So you may think, Alex what is the problem then if you nobody is forcing you to drink? Well let me explain that in my old job, I was pretty much a lone wolf consultant who didn't have a team to work with, so I was pretty much left on my own to work hard when I wanted to and relax when I wanted to. But now in my current position, not only do I have colleagues, I have clients and associates to deal with and there is a lot of drinking during office hours. Now I can understand and appreciate that in British business culture, there is a lot of relationships that get established over social drinking and certainly, this is the case in other countries like Japan as well. However, given that I am dealing with clients in countries from Cote d'Ivoire to Peru to Malaysia, I'm not even in the same time zone as them so there's no social drinking. We may make casual conversation when we have our Zoom calls but that's it - there's no element of socializing that involves alcohol. So for me, I just want to get my work done and then go do other stuff like my gymnastics training or even just having an hour to sit down and blog. But when I am dealing with people who are drinking during office hours, deadlines get missed - people literally get too drunk to be able to remember that they have promised me to do certain things and that does frustrate me. I believe in working hard and playing hard, I frown upon people who get drunk during office hours to the point where they are unable to do work. Yet there seems to be this 'oh boys will be boys' culture here where drunken escapades are told as funny stories and those involved seem to experience little or no shame for what they have done - whilst I personally feel that people who drink during office hours are being irresponsible and unprofessional. 

All this is nothing new for me having been in the UK for 24 years and none of this shocks me but the only difference in this case is that I've never really found myself in a position where I've been stood up because the client got so hopelessly drunk he could not pick up the phone at 3 pm in the afternoon even to say, "I'm too drunk now, let's reschedule." Part of the explanation is that when you're lower down the food chain, you wouldn't dare to get away with becoming hopelessly drunk that early in the afternoon. But if you're quite senior and people want to do business with you, then you get a lot more leeway when it comes to what you can get away with in terms of your drunken escapades. Thus the kind of people I deal with tend to be senior industry figures and ironically, the more senior they are, the more badly behaved they are in this aspect. Oh I have too many stories about their drunken escapades but I won't tell them here as I don't want to condone that kind of behaviour by repeating those stories. In sharp contrast, there is the receptionist in the office building where I work - let's call her Ava (not her real name). She is always stone cold sober and she always looks immaculate, but then again, someone like her is admittedly at the bottom of the food chain working as a receptionist, earning very little compared to some of the people who work in that office building. Clearly, people like Ava would never get away with getting drunk at work during her shift, but I'm not dealing with people like her for my work. Admittedly, I think I would enjoy working with someone like Ava a lot more than some of my clients, but obviously, I don't get a choice in the matter. 

So here's where I feel quite conflicted: I work in sales, I pride myself in having good social skills and this is just the kind of thing that I ought to know how to deal with. There's a part of me knows that I left my old job on bad terms earlier this summer, I managed to get a good job within a short period of time and thus I should be grateful for the opportunity - by that token, I should just use my social skills to deal with the challenges of dealing with this aspect of drinking within British business culture. On the other hand, sometimes I feel mentally exhausted in having to deal with clients who are like that. For me, it feels like a total lack of respect when they can't be asked to stay sober enough to deal with me; but for them, attending a meeting whilst under the influence of alcohol is totally normal. So there's a part of me that thinks, Alex don't be the poorly assimilated immigrant, this is just the way things are in London so even if you don't like it, nobody is going to change just to please you. Furthermore, I'm 45 - I'm not young anymore and I think there's an element of people expecting someone as old as me to simply know how to deal with things like that without wobbling. Thankfully I have friends like John who tell me that I'm never too old to ask for help when I need some empathy and understanding; there are times when I just need to sit down with someone like him and just vent my frustration about some of the crap I have to deal with. John would know exactly what to say and then I would go back to my work after that - nothing has changed, but John would give me more confidence about being able to overcome those many challenges I have to face.

You know I talk a lot about the importance of social skills in my blog, but sometimes when I am in a situation whereby I'm not the one causing the problems, I'm not the one with the poor social skills and I'm certainly not the one getting hopelessly drunk at 3 pm in the afternoon, then no amount of social skills on my part is going to make that situation any less messy to deal with. Sometimes when I feel nostalgic, I would watch Youtube videos about Singaporean hawker culture and there's a part of me that feels envious about one aspect of the hawker's job - there is a certain beauty to the simplicity in their business model. So let's say they specialize in a dish like Laksa, well every customer turns up wishing to taste their famous Laksa so they simply serve every customer the same thing. Once they have mastered the art of making delicious Laksa and have established a name for themselves, they simply just repeat that same process day after day. There's a part of me that longs for that level of simplicity because the Laksa hawker is in full control of the entire process, they decide what time they wish to open the stall, how many bowls of Laksa they aim to sell per working day and the customer cannot turn up at the stall asking for a beef steak or chocolate ice cream - they can either have a Laksa or they have to go somewhere else to find what they want. I don't have that luxury in my job, I do have to deal with difficult people and I went into this with both my eyes opened; I know the job hazards that do come with the territory but I just want a safe space to be able to get some empathy on the issue with others (such as John) who understand exactly what I have to deal with and what I'm going through. I know I must solve my own problems but I need emotional support. 

Allow me to share with you the key thing that John gave me that made a lot of sense: he told me about this man whom I shall refer to as Mr Gin because of the fact that he liked gin. Mr Gin was was an alcoholic - he had a terrible job, he was miserable and stressed from work, family life wasn't good and so he took to the bottle. He drank was too much and it affected his work, his marriage and so both fell apart: he lost his job then his wife took the kids and left Mr Gin. What did he do to deal with being unemployed and divorced? He literally drank himself to death: it is called alcoholic poisoning. The human body can only handle so much alcohol and if you drink too much in a short pace of time, you will poison your body to the point where you can die. Mr Gin's corpse was literally found in a gutter next to the train station by the police - nobody was sure how long he had lay there dead or how he had ended up there. But the moral of the story is this: whilst Mr Gin was a failure at his job, in sharp contrast, the people whom I work with, they happen to drink very heavily but are great at what they do at the same time. I work in an industry that doesn't suffer fools gladly, employers in my industry doesn't tolerate failures. It is a double edged sword: nobody cares if I am gay or Asian as long as I am great at what I do, by the same token, nobody cares if you are drink a lot or if you smoke or do drugs, as long as you can make a lot of money for the company. So these people at work who have irked me are nothing like Mr Gin at all, John told me to at least recognize that in spite of the drinking culture which they are a part of, they are still really successful at what they do within financial services and that even if all that drinking hasn't contributed to that success it hasn't hindered them either. 

I suppose this is quite similar to what my nephew has just gone through - he has just finished his A levels and undoubtedly, he is a model student in many ways: he studies extremely hard, his conduct is impeccable. In sharp contrast, when I was his age, I was actually the bad boy who sneaked into clubs and drinking, rolling home drunk at three in the morning whilst my nephew would never do something like that to upset his parents. If conduct or good behaviour was an A level subject, he would get the top grade of course but instead, he is having to do conventional subjects like economics, physics, mathematics and chemistry - so despite working so hard and having such good conduct, there doesn't seem to be much correlation between his grades and his behaviour. This is so similar to what I am going through at work, I don't touch a drop of alcohol at work and everyone knows I have a great work ethic, yet I am frustrated when I see people who drink a lot at work perform better than me and like my nephew, I simply have to accept that I'm never going to be rewarded for my good conduct or work ethic, but purely on my results on what I can do for the company, how much money I can make for the company. Such are the realities of the working world, there's no doting parent to reward you for good behaviour, only very demanding bosses who prioritize results over behaviour or work ethic. Ironically, I did react to this whole situation in a very Singaporean way - in a way I would have expected someone like my nephew to react and that's part of my frustration, I really ought to know better by now. You can take the man out of Singapore but you can't take Singapore out of the man. So by that token I recognize I'm far more like my nephew than I'd care to admit. 

So no, I'm not going to give up and quit just because there's one aspect of my job which I happen to find quite frustrating and unpleasant to deal with - but on the other hand, I don't want to end up like those doctors who are so stressed by their work they end up drinking heavily. This is an issue that is causing me stress at work and I have been dealing with it by talking to my friend John about it. Oh he has been so understanding, he has been incredibly kind and helpful, I can't tell you just how grateful I am to him - this leads me to wonder, all those people who are getting hopelessly drunk because of stress at work, well why can't they just do what I do and talk to a friend about their problems at work rather than drink themselves to an early grave? Am I somewhat naive to think that it is really that simple then? Well, I feel like it is in my case, I simply give John a call but what if these people didn't have someone whom they could count on like that in their lives then? So at this stage, I'm going to turn this over to you: so what do you think? Have you ever encountered people who drink very heavily because of stress at work? Do they allow their drinking habits to affect their work by either getting so drunk during office hours or turning up at work nursing a terrible hangover which prevents them from performing well at work? How does all this affect their work performance then? How could we work with people who come from a very different culture and may have a totally different attitude when it comes to issues like alcohol? How could we reconcile that difference without letting it affect us too much? Do you have a good friend in your life like my buddy John whom you can run to whenever you need someone to talk to or do you simply turn to something like alcohol to try to forget your problems? Why do some people end up like Mr Gin then?! Please leave a comment below and many thanks for reading. 

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  1. If I may just add one thought here (I'd rather do this than add a new paragraph to a completed article), I hate the way society judges people who just want to seek some understanding, empathy and have a safe space to talk. I remember this incident when a young mother was struggling with her baby who was just a few weeks old - clearly, she has a really difficult task on her hands and she not only needed advice and help, she also needed emotional support from other mothers who have been through exactly what she had gone through with a newborn baby. Yet the moment she spoke up and admitted, "I'm really struggling, I'm so exhausted, I'm so sleep deprived, this is so difficult" - oh people started judging her, "what's wrong with you, do you not love your baby? What kind of terrible mother are you, complaining just a few weeks into motherhood? You're an evil monster for daring to complain." I think we should be reasonable, understanding and kind to people who are having a hard time: that young mother isn't going to abandon her baby at the orphanage today afternoon just because she is having a hard time, she is looking for solutions, she is looking for help and emotional support in order to become a better mother to her baby. Likewise, I am so sick and tired of people who think, Alex is complaining, is it because he can't cope and he wants to give up? Is he gonna quit over this? No I am not going to quit, but at the same time, I need help and support to be able to overcome the troubles and challenges I am facing at work. Why do so many people see things in black and white only: like is that young mother either a perfect mother who is doing a brilliant job or the mother from hell one step away from abandoning her baby at the orphanage? Why do I need to be either the brilliant genius who is fantastic at his job or the total failure who can't cope with the challenges of the role? Can we see the shades of grey between the two extreme of black and white? Can we have a conversation without assuming the very worst of people who are seeking some emotional support in what they are going through?

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    1. I would say this is a problem of cultures which like to save face and put on a brave front. And a general snobbiness against people who struggle. I mean growing up in school you don't see teachers telling students to feel sorry for students who are struggling, in fact usually its the teacher who is villifying those struggling students who they should be helping. Empathy is hard when the results-based systems of school/employment which rule our lives aren't set up to make empathy important.

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    2. Thanks for picking up on this Amanda. I think it is a lack of social skills that people react like that - let's stick with the example of the young mother struggling with a newborn baby. A more experienced mother can react two ways: the first way is how I explained in the post above. The more experienced mother can judge the young inexperienced mother, pass judgment, insult the inexperienced mother for not rising to the challenge because the experienced mother wants to feel, "I am the better mother! I never complained! I did what was expected of me as a mother, because I have a sense of responsibility towards my child! I am a good mother whilst you're a bad mother! I'm better than you! I win, you lose!" People who go down that route are desperately insecure and trying to find ways to make themselves feel better about having done something right in their lives, so they go around finding fault with others and ironically, it's not personal - it's just their way to try to feel better about themselves when they're so insecure.

      The other way to react is to show empathy, kindness, understanding and reach out to help, "hey I've been there, I've had two children of my own, I know exactly how you feel and what you're going through, let's talk and I'll see what I can do to help you cope with the situation. Don't worry, we'll get through this together." That kind of reaction, when one reacts with kindness, well it takes a lot of social skills and in so doing, when you treat people with kindness, people will recognize that and say, "hey she is such a kind person, I like her." It's not rocket science to realize that you can get a reputation for being a nice person and that's another way to feel good about yourself, when people like you for being so kind and nice.

      Yet so many people go down that first path of condemning others to try to feel better about themselves, I have seen so much of that - why do people choose that path?!

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    3. Btw, I didn't really catch this from the post, but who at work isn't showing sympathy unless it's kinda everybody because it's a cutthroat industry?

      Why do people go down that path? I was thinking it's Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The top of the pyramid is "self-actualization", while the level just below is "self-esteem", and all the levels below that are material needs like food, comfort, and safety. The people at the top of the pyramid are the kinds of people who have achieved so much in life they now gain greater pleasure from helping others (think Bill Gates and his charitable causes). But if you told the average person to find pleasure from Bill Gates type charity they'd tell you "I'm already struggling too, why should I help someone else when I can barely help myself?" The experienced mother is probably accomplished, but not so accomplished she doesn't have problems that occupy most of her time. So it's just a knee jerk selfish reaction repackaged as a prideful insult.

      At work I also have the same problem with my boss. I'm the math expert, but the other engineers aren't(they do other things I'm absolute dogshit at). But I found out from the others as soon as they arrived my boss was telling them "why are you so bad at math? Get better!" I almost laughed my ass off because I know my boss is not great at math which is why he hired me in the first place. I regularly teach him math on the whiteboard sometimes too. Yet he is scolding the others for sucking instead of empathizing with them and teaching them what I taught him. I don't know why he chooses to go down that path, because in the end the other engineers did anything and everything to avoid math heavy projects and highly resent him over those comments he made a long time ago. Thank god I didn't learn math from a professor like this, everyone I learned from was super nice and empathetic of me being terrible in the beginning. I think it's an ego thing, many scientists like to show off they are smarter and more knowledgeable. And nobody scolds little kids for doing this to their friends in primary or high school. It's really disgusting because so much more could be achieved if we worked together instead of seeing each other as competition.

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    4. Also, I had this weird incident happen to me recently with a friend. This friend asked me if my body was getting too "worn out" from doing gymnastics, tennis, and going to the gym to workout. The friend, let's call her "Macy", said "Don't feel compelled to compete, unless it makes you happy." When someone tells me to do do something out of nowhere I turn it on them and ask them how they're feeling lately. So I found out Macy thinks of herself as a very "competitive" person. As in if she sees other women working out, getting good grades, wearing nice clothes, etc., she want to "compete" to do even better and tell other people she is. But this is just low self-esteem because it means she is only doing things for the joy of showing off, and she will tell other people to not do as well because it upsets her. The latter is really pathetic when you think about it. I also found out that Macy is also super busy with school and work that she can't find time to do any of these things that she wants to compete at because she saw me doing them, and she sorta resents me for that. But as soon as she said "competitive", I knew I couldn't be her best friend because low self-esteem means she can never be fully supportive of another person's decisions and achievements because she's always comparing them to herself and making these stupid comments.

      So yeah that's my answer, many insecure people just enjoy comparing themselves to other people when they shouldn't be. A phrase I would say to this fictional experienced mother/my boss/Macy is "this isn't about YOU! Someone is just seeking help with their own life. Don't use this opportunity as an ego trip!"

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    5. Hi Amanda, I don't think anyone at work has been particularly nasty to me about this - I think two or three colleagues are aware that I've been struggling with this issue and they have been nice about it, but it was John who went out of his way and spent 1 hr 12 mins on a call with me just to be talk it through with me. No, rather I was thinking about the haters (imaginary or otherwise) who will use this against me - most people on social media will post something that says, "this is one aspect of my job I really enjoy, look at me having such a good time whilst earning so much money - you should be jealous of me, I have a better life than you." Social media is full of people like that and yeah, it can be tiresome to deal with people like that because you can probably guess that their life isn't perfect, but they're going down the road to try to make others envy them. It does make me feel somewhat vulnerable to say, "hey I'm 45, I should know better, yet there's an aspect of my working life which I am struggling with and I just want to talk about it so I can figure out how to cope better." But speaking out like that is often seen as a sign of weakness - I hesitated before writing this piece. Am I being disrespectful to my company and our clients by highlighting this issue? Am I appearing as someone who isn't appreciative of the opportunity I have been given at this company? Would people judge me harshly for speaking so honestly?

      What is clear is that many people are so afraid of judgment that they choose not to say anything, or at least they won't say anything apart from with very close friends they do trust (such as the conversation I had with John, who has a heart of gold and is a really close friend). But I chose to take a risk and put myself out there by talking about it. What I fear most is stupid people choosing to take away what they wish to be true: let me give you an example. After my last trip to Singapore (prior to the pandemic) where I did a lot of work there, I wrote a piece that was very critical of myself: I felt like a fish out of water, I made mistakes communicating with the locals, I had totally overestimated my ability to deal with the locals there and basically, it was a piece where I listed out everything that went wrong and allow me to stress this: I blamed myself for everything that went wrong. I take full responsibility and by owning up to my mistakes, I hoped to learn from it. What did this idiot do? He read the piece and he accused me of "looking down on Singaporeans" and I was like, I never ever said that in my piece. It was all about me telling my readers what stupid mistakes I made and what lessons I had learnt, but this guy hated me anyway and wanted other Singaporeans to hate me as well, so he came up with that ridiculous - utterly baseless accusation and that's the kind of shit I have to deal with by putting myself out there like that.

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    6. As for the idiotic people who make those comparisons to feel better about their lives, that's a sign of such atrociously bad social skills. But people do that a lot, I've seen so many people who do dumb shit like that and they're oblivious to how badly that reflects on themselves. I would rather be nice and encouraging to people to win their trust and friendship, then to try to score some kind of cheap thrill by putting them down. But then again, I've got the kind of social skills that many people simply don't have - that comes with the territory, that's me learning how to deal with people and get them to like me. So when I feel someone seeking help, my first instinct is to see if I can help rather than use that opportunity to gloat, "my life is better than yours, I don't have that problem which you're facing, bwahahaha." That's a highly immature attitude. But like I said above, the moment I have a public persona on social media, I have to deal with immature, stupid idiots like that who choose to comment on the stuff I post.

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    7. Well let me tell you about this woman at my gymnastics club I met tonight - let's call her Mary (not her real name, I just chose one that's close to the name you chose for your friend Macy). She had a terrible attitude, she tried a difficult skill like three times and then said, "I give up, I can't do this." I wasn't going to go out of my way to try to convince her or coax her to do it, I just shrugged my shoulders and thought, whatever, you have a bad attitude and it's not my problem - I'll spend time with people with much better attitudes and more determined to learn some awesome gymnastics. So even when I see someone worthy of a good scolding for having a bad attitude, I don't even put them down - I just leave someone like Mary alone because I know that scolding her wouldn't make me a better gymnast. If I wanna become a better gymnast, I have to work hard to improve my gymnastics rather than put people like Mary down. That's why I just walked away and left her to her own devices - she mostly then just sat around for the rest of the session talking to people and I ignored her.

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    8. Oh yeah social media is terrible for the people who have such low self esteem they only post the good days, and shit on people who have bad days. I wouldn't use Sg as a good example of great mental health though. I mean they literally don't take mental health seriously there. I even heard insurance companies in Sg can refuse to sell you health insurance if they find out you have a mental illness like bipolar, which is illegal to do in most western countries. But since Sg is such a new country which hardly ever thinks about mental health, they don't have laws against this practice.

      I guess its not just the average Joe/Jane who is derided for speaking out about struggles. I remember the kind of stick in the media that Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka got for dropping out of tournaments. Or even Meghan Markle for talking about feeling suicidal when she was still working for the royal family. I dunno, you can't really help trolls like that. Let's just call the haters what they are, "Trolling." The kind of lazy person who takes pleasure in having fat friends instead of working out to feel fitter.

      I think someone like Mary is okay to be around provided she doesn't say to you "Alex stop training so hard, you're gonna break a leg." But yeah you can't force someone like Mary to try harder, unless she comes to you for help. But to each their own. It's someone like Macy who I don't like because she will go up to people to make some shitty comment when she feels envious of them. I mean she fucking told me I might get injured and to cut back on sport, and accused me of doing sports not because I like it but because I enjoy comparing myself to others. Ugh, my take on this is that some people never left high school and still see life as one huge popularity contest.

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    9. Btw, I recently learned how to do a front flip in gymnastics class. I'm surprised how surprisingly easy it is to do if you just follow their instructions. They had us pretend to do a forward roll on the ground while jumping off a trampoline, and that causes one to roll in the air and not even touch the ground if they jump high enough. Its just like you said, you just have to follow a recipe and practice the timings. I still land on my back(half flip I suppose), but with enough practice I could one day land on my feet instead.

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    10. Oh that experience with that article really drove me nuts, it did make me think that it wasn't a great idea to be so honest on my blog. I went down the route of self-deprecation, ie. if I am the first to criticize myself and admit my own mistakes, then people can't point the finger at me and blame me when I have already done that myself and am well on the way to learn from my mistakes. In that piece reflecting on the mistakes I had made on that business trip to Singapore, the one theme was that I blamed myself for all the mistakes I had made, I didn't blame the Singaporeans I encountered, I took full responsibility for thinking too arrogantly that "yeah I know how these people work, I can communicate with them, I've got this" when really, I've been away for so long that I was like a fish out of water. Yet for this Singaporean hater to read that and claim "Alex hates Singaporeans and looks down on Singaporeans" - I had never ever said anything to that effect in my post and that's why I find it frustrating dealing with haters who are so stupid. They have their agenda (which is usually, "I hate Alex") and they don't let something like the truth get in the way of their agenda. It is like trying to reason with Trump supporters when they use their own version of events (ie. fake news) to support and justify their views whilst conveniently ignoring the truth. Yes it is trolling and that's what I was afraid of when I wrote such a brutally honest piece here. Note that I didn't blame or judge the people who get drunk at work, I merely expressed my frustration at not being able to cope better with the situation given that I pride myself on my social skills, to be able to deal with situations like that. But will my haters actually read my post and hear what I have to say or will they just jump to their own conclusions again?

      Oh Mary is going to stop coming to gymnastics if that's her attitude, she has underestimated the challenge. People like her will end up in a yoga class doing breathing exercises and she will enjoy the yoga instructor congratulating her on being able to inhale and exhale so well. Duh. I can just imagine her smiling with glee as she gets praised for breathing, which is the first, most natural reflex that babies have the moment they are born and take their first breath. Some people like her want the praise without having to put in the effort. Gymnastics is bloody hard, you reap what you sow and if Macy is jealous that you're expecting a big harvest because of your efforts, then she can either, a) work hard like you and expect an equally good harvest or b) tell you to stop working so hard so your harvest will be crap like hers. If she chooses b) instead of a), then she is the one with the problem, not you!

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    11. I look forward to more gymnastics videos from you on Instagram!

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    12. I think the thing about online anonymity is that it is easier to troll because one can easily just disappear. In real life it is harder to troll because there is a bigger penalty for bad social skills and talking out of context (i.e making it about yourself instead of about someone else). Sure for the troll they will never get anyone to like them, a bad tinder date over text and a bad smooth talker at a bar are both equally unsuccessful, but with trolling the point is not to be liked. Yeah there is no reasoning with people who walk into conversations not hoping to listen and understand, but instead just wanting to voice their opinion and leave.

      Lol yoga. Gymnastics is bloody hard, I had to endure being sore for weeks before I could even do a handstand and hold it. But now I can literally jump fences! When I was playing tennis sometimes I'd hit the tennis balls outside the walls of the court because I'm so bad, but getting over the fence for a quick shortcut wasn't an issue because of all the times I had to practice with the bars. I hate people who seek praise without doing anything and throw tantrums when they don't get it. That's basically Macy too, she always want to be the best and grumbles when she's not.

      But who cares if one is not the best? I am so surprised Macy is jealous of me when it comes to sports but not scientific achievements, because I'm a nerd who is never going to win an Olympic medal let alone a national championship. Maybe because she can't tell me to be a worse scientist and disguise it as being concerned for my health haha. I am just doing sport for fun even though I suck. But there may be a class element to it. Macy has student loans to pay so she's almost broke every month and can't pay for gymnastics lessons right now. She also didn't do much sport growing up unless it was part of a free school program due to tight family finances. She was telling me she was talented at cartwheels growing up but her family couldn't afford to put her into gymnastics as a kid. Still though, hating on me does not change her finances or time situation, or make her any fitter.

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    13. Oh yes I forgot to take a video this week at gymnastics. I'll try to remember this week! It's just I get so focused on trying to get the skill right that I forget to video some progress even though its only half-there. Btw, what do you usually train when you're at gymnastics. I imagine the training is a lot different for someone who used to be a national athlete than a complete noob.

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    14. Oh you'll be amazed how many trolls have bad social skills. You have a choice really: either you come to my blog, yell insults and hope to upset me when I read those insults or you engage me in a respectful manner, earn my trust enough to listen to what you have to say. You can't have it both ways - I've had trolls who have hurled so many insults at me and then expect me to listen to them; oh please, even if there was a valid point buried somewhere in those insults, they have lost the window of opportunity to influence my opinion because of the way they have chosen to conduct themselves. Whereas with you Amanda, of course I'll listen to anything you have to say given how you have established rapport and won my trust. But that's just a clear case of Dunning Kruger syndrome, when these trolls have such poor social skills they don't realize how bad their social skills are.

      As adults when we do sports like gymnastics, it's not about winning medals, it's about setting ourselves goals and achieving them. One of my students at the gym is an Italian PhD student and she's doing her PhD in neuroscience, so she's a super brainy smart person! However, she loves the way gymnastics challenges her in a completely different way and whilst she is never going to win any medals for her gymnastics, she derives a huge sense of reward when I set her a target in terms of a skill I want her to learn and when she achieves it, she takes a video and looks at it and think, wow I can't believe I achieved this! She is doing it for that sense of reward, that's a kind of quiet, personal validation that she enjoys.

      As for what I do, I am so OCD. I actually have my training log book, I have a set number of repetitions for my tumbling skills which I must complete, then I have another 10 skills which I also must complete a certain number of times. My philosophy is that if I don't train these skills, I may forget how to do them and just to keep the muscle memory there, I will do them a set number of times: so if it's a really easy skill, I'll do it once just to tell myself "I can still do it" but if it is a hard skill, I will do it up to five times. Everything is written down in my training log book and that's how OCD I am about it.

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    15. I think these trolls just want to feel heard and have their concerns validated but don't know how to get that kind of attention in a good way. So they resort to throwing their toys out of the pram in order to cause a fuss and get some eyeballs their way. It's pathetic and desperate really... But human affection is a need just like food and water, and those that are starving will act in irrational ways.

      Cool! So you have a non-athlete in your gym. Yeah I suppose it's good to have many different kinds of activities in life that test different ways of thinking. Even I can get bored of science which is why I started picking up gymnastics. Also, it's nice to be around other people too. Last week I met a new guy who hadn't been to gymnastics in a while who was a music major that did gymnastics as a kid. He's pretty good at the balance beam even though it's a female event. Did some cartwheels on them.

      Lol so I only see less than 1% of your training drills on Instagram haha. Since you have a huge library of skills anyway might as well train all of them or else lose it I suppose. Are these 10 skills for different events each session or are they spread across every kinda equipment (rings, bars, vault, etc.)? Each session I usually focus on one particular skill, like flipping or bars. I don't know enough to practice too many skills yet haha. Also sometimes I just like watching other people to preview what I could do when I have more experience.

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    16. Oh trolls existed before the time of the internet - take my mother for instance, she is so desperate for attention that she would pick a fight with my father and for her, that kind of social interaction is better than simply being ignored, which is pretty much what the status quo would be if she didn't antagonize him. Thus by the same token, I imagine a lot of these trolls are just lonely people who are desperate for some kind of attention. Now on social media, you can get attention by being interesting, by posting stuff that gets the attention of others of course but otherwise if you're just quite low-profile, ordinary and not that special, you're highly unlikely to get that attention you crave. That's why they turn to trolling because that's one way they can get attention - it's a very toxic kind of attention seeking activity because I hardly imagine them enjoying the experience when they exchange insults on the internet with strangers but that's probably the sum total of their social interaction with others. It's crazy the lengths they will go to just to pick a fight - I remember once leaving a fairly innocent comment on a music video on Youtube like, "oh this song reminds me of this other song (insert name of song and singer)" and I got such an angry reply from a total stranger who took offence to my comment but clearly, s/he was just spoiling for a fight. S/he probably had absolutely no real friends in real life and was that desperate for attention that s/he would react to my comment on that Youtube video.

      I have plenty of non-athletes who started doing gymnastics in their adult life, they represent the vast majority of the adult gymnasts in my gym. There are some like me who have done it when we were younger and still want to enjoy the sport, but most are adults looking to experience something brand new and very different.

      My training drills are actually fairly boring, a lot of the skills I do are fairly mundane stuff (like I do all different kinds of handstands, just once each, every training session) - the handstand drills are not instagram worthy, sorry I think they're boring but I do them to make sure I still have decent handstand skills as that's such a fundamental building block for gymnastics. I tend to post the most difficult skills rather than the boring ones that I do just to maintain that muscle memory. The skills I train are spread out between bar work, trampoline, floor and one on the beam (which you've seen before, that dismount).

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    17. If you want, I can try to do a video of my handstand training for you on Instagram, I don't think it will be that interesting but I don't think I've videoed it before.

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    18. Lol so your parents troll each other just for fun because they can't maintain a basic conversation? I suppose they also troll you to a certain extent when you come to visit, saying things like "be careful" when you're on the staircase. It would be so easy to just be like "Hey son, how is London? Did you change jobs? Do you like your new job? How is acting going? Wow you acted in a Cambodian beer commercial in Ukraine, tell me more about it." We take these social skills for granted but it seems other people are lacking in them. Though I confess sometimes I'm just too shy to walk up to people and say something because I can't tell if they're in the mood to talk right now. But what's the worst that can happen if I ask about them instead of talk about me?

      Also, another thing that trolls seem to have is "Shadenfreude." The joy of seeing others in pain. It's almost like a lite-version of being sadistic. Its kinda dark to know that every human has some potential for shadenfreude/sadism...

      Then what do the child athletes do as adults? Play chess? In my gym its about a 50/50 split between child gymnasts and people who've never done anything athletic growing up.

      Oh yeah I always do handstands whenever I go to the gym. Like you said its the foundation of so many skills. Though a lot of times I might kick too hard when trying to get my legs up that I go too far and fall. Yeah I don't usually see drills in your instagram aside from the fancy tricks you can do haha. Sure I'd love to see that.

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    19. Well Amanda, you have really good social skills but let's not imagine for a second that others have that same ability. To be fair, my father doesn't troll my mother, it is the other way around. My father ignores my mother - he wakes up, doesn't talk to her, turns on the TV and watches the TV without saying a word to her. If she doesn't provoke him into some kind of argument, the status quo would be two strangers living in the same house barely talking to each other. Oh my father is quite happy to treat my mother like she's some piece of furniture in the house and just totally ignore her whilst my mother is so desperate for any social interaction during the pandemic that she will pick a fight with my father just to speak with another human being. If that's the kind of social skills she has, can you blame my father for wanting to ignore her? I just roll my eyes and think, if with spouses like that, who needs enemies? Why are the two of you even still married after all these years if that's the state of your marriage?

      As for what child athletes do as adults, I suppose they go on and do something else with their lives by focusing on their careers. Take Nastia Liukin of USA for example, she won a gold medal at the Beijing Olympics in 2008 at the age of 18 and then it was a case of, well what do I do now? She works in finance today and is hugely successful - I suppose for someone like her, she has been there and done it all in gymnastics, she just wants to turn her attention to something else right now and know that she can be good at something else totally different from gymnastics. For her, she saw what her father did and she didn't want to go down the same route: her father Valeri Liukin won a gold medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, then cashed in on that gold medal by coming to America and becoming a gymnastics coach. He only knows the world of gymnastics and nothing else, hence he gravitated towards coaching. But for his daughter, she wanted to make a point, yes I can do gymnastics and win that Olympic gold medal, but I can also do something else with my brain power as well.

      I'd like to have that balance in my life - I clearly love and enjoy gymnastics, I volunteer at my gym to keep it a part of my life but I also know that I have skills that can allow me to have a successful corporate career as well. Handstand video untuk anda akan datang Amanda - either today or tomorrow I promise. Not difficult stuff but why not.

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    20. Thinking about my parents' situation, it reminds me of the book I had to do for my A level literature. It was a story about a black family in America and this woman married a doctor, thinking she had found herself a good catch given how respected this doctor was in the black community. Then as they grew older, she became focused on being a mother to her kids whilst he was so focused on his work as a doctor that they just grew apart to the point where they were like strangers living under the same roof. She didn't have the social skills to reconnect with her husband, she wasn't educated like him so in a desperate bid to get some kind of attention from her husband, she would provoke him to the point where he would beat her up. It was a grim story about domestic violence and ironically, the writer was a woman - so it was not as if the writer was trying to make this woman look like an innocent victim and that the husband was the villain here, but it was just a very sad, sorry situation whereby both parties are miserable and unhappy. The husband just wants to ignore the wife and focus on his work, he clearly doesn't love her anymore but for the wife, she has nothing in her life (her husband has his career as a doctor) and as her children have grown up, provoking her husband into beating her up seems to be the only way she knows how to avoid being ignored. I remember reading the book back in 1993, 1994 thinking, oh there's something very wrong with that woman, she couldn't possibly be like that - who would deliberately pick a fight just to get some attention? Well, #smh it's now happening to my own family.

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    21. Hmm, so it seems your father is okay with having a silent marriage, and not much of a social life. But your mother needs attention, and feels entitled to it from her husband instead of going out to make friends. I really hate that attitude when it comes to marriage, its more of an old-fashioned thing where spouses feel entitled to someone else loving them and treating them well even if they treat the other like shit or maybe the couple just aren't compatible. It reminds me of the stupid chain emails my mom would read out loud about a husband who professes his undying love to a wife who just demands more and more sacrifices without giving anything in return. I just don't understand the psychology of people who expect so much from their marriage while giving so little in return. But then again my mom's a narcissist, she's a taker and not a giver.

      Wow that is interesting you read a book in A level literature about such a similar marriage. So its more common than we think to have this kinda "Loneliness" in life despite being married. The wife in that story reminds me of a female version of "creepy guys from IT" who can be married but have terrible social skills. But my takeaway from that story is that marriage and kids is not the cure-all to one's problems in life, despite society making it sound like it is. This woman, even with a marriage and kids, is still lacking hobbies/purpose in life and sufficient social skills to make a sufficiently fulfilling circle of friends. Maybe the kids made her happy for a while, but eventually they don't need to be taken care of anymore and there goes the hobby/purpose/friends in her life.

      Ahh okay, so the child athletes want to challenge themselves at other things, I totally get that. I mean, lately the past year I had difficulty coming up with ideas for my next project because I've effectively been pursuing science as a hobby or professionally for close to 15 years. I kinda wanted to turn off my brain for a year, and thats when I started putting more time into developing the social skills and getting fit. But of course, I eventually needed some dosage of science, which is also my job, like how you haven't given up sport completely. Do you also play tennis regularly or only sometimes? I just started lessons on that after watching the movie "King Richard" about Serena and Venus Williams' childhood with their dad Richard Williams. It's pretty fun to get some cardio in.

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    22. Oh my father 'checked out' a long time ago, he just wants to watch TV - the TV is always on and it would be on some channel from China showing something mundane like light entertainment, news or documentaries. He usually doesn't stay awake for long and would fall asleep, then wake up in time for the next meal. He doesn't do much apart from that, he can't even stay awake for the entire TV programme - never mind bother talking to my mother. He used to have a 'mission' in his life which was to take care of my nephew when he was a kid and teach him Chinese; well my nephew is now 18 and about to start life in the army next year and he doesn't have to ever take a Chinese exam in his life again. So now my father is devoid of purpose in his life, like he no longer has a job to do now my nephew is all grown up.

      And sorry, I didn't get a chance to do the video for you tonight, I'll try tomorrow.

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  2. Hi Subhav and happy holidays. I'm here to communicate and share and I'm very glad you've come as a reader. Please understand that I don't think life should be a "how much do you earn? How big is your house? How accomplished are you?" contest - that kind of "my dick is bigger than yours" comparison is only done by the most insecure people and I always, always steer well clear of that. Even recently, when someone at work tried to do that (he name dropped the make of the car he has, which is very expensive), I refused to take the bait and simply pretended I didn't hear it, thus I didn't respond at all to it. So please my friend, let's not go down that route. Everyone is a unique individuals and it is the sum of our experiences that contribute to our knowledge and opinions, so I am most interested in your views on alcohol regardless of what accomplishments you have, your views are just as valid as mine and I absolutely welcome your contribution.

    I have gone without alcohol for over 20 years. The key thing that my friend John told me on the issue is that people in the corporate world are very very stressed and they need some way to deal with that stress: alcohol is a simple solution as it induces a physiological reaction. Going for therapy, doing meditation/yoga or even talking to your friends and trying to work things out require a lot more work - it is just easier to drink alcohol and people who get addicted to alcohol feel as if they have no other choice but to keep on drinking like that. What is even more disturbing is that it becomes totally normalized if you surround yourself with people who drink excessively, so getting very drunk a few days a week seems totally normal in those circles whereas I don't think it is good to go down that road. I can't even begin to attempt to change the behaviour of those I work with who drink like that - I am just trying to find a way to do my job whilst in this environment. And of course, I steadfastly refuse to touch even a molecule of alcohol in this environment - thankfully, nobody dares to try to even make me do something I don't want to do and even if they try, I have enough backbone to flatly refuse.

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  3. I have known of people who get pressured into drinking at work by their peers/colleagues and I feel sorry for them. At least I'm a teetotal person trying to find a way to do what I do whilst surrounded by heavy drinkers who have created an environment where getting terribly drunk is considered totally normal for them. I can't change the environment I am in, but I can find a way to still get my job done without ever compromising my principles of being strictly teetotal.

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