What kind of degree for you need to work in corporate finance?
There are several aspects to corporate finance: firstly there is origination - that's where you go out and look for companies who need to raise money. How each individual does that is always a secret, but essentially you need to have a good reputation for finding businesses the investment they need and once you have successfully pulled a few of these deals off, businesses will come knocking on your door asking you for your help to raise investment. Secondly, there is structuring: once you've agreed to help company "A1 Industries" to raise say US$100 million, you need somebody to do all the paperwork. This may sound boring, but it is nonetheless extremely lucrative because you need everyone from lawyers to accounts to other industry specialists to structure the deal in a way that will satisfy all parties involved. And finally there is placement: once you have agreed to help your client "A1 Industries" raise this US$100 million - do you have a list of people who have that kind of money to invest? We're not even talking about rich individuals here, we're talking about private bankers, hedge fund managers and pension fund managers. I realize I am really simplifying a very complicated process but I'm not here to explain to you how corporate finance works - there's already a very detailed, very TL;DR entry on Wikipedia if you are really interested. What I aim to do in this post is to address Naomi's question and to also ask one of my own: so how would a "relevant" degree in business, accounting or economics help you in this world?
I am involved in both origination and placement - I have a fairly good reputation in being the matchmaker and that's what most brokers in the industry do. Note that I have chosen to use a fairly generic name "A1 Industries" to describe the name of a typical client - that's because I am a broker who is industry-agnostic. What that means is that I will look at any business proposition as long as it is profitable - that's my only criteria. Whereas I have a Finnish friend who is a specialist in oil and gas, so she does what I do but she only focuses on deals to do with her niche area and I suppose she has enough business to keep her busy enough. You see, she has an engineering background and has worked in the oil and gas industry before, hence she brings with her a far more technical understanding of her industry whereas I have a degree that's pretty much useless and so I am essentially having to climb a steep learning curve about each industry each time I have a new deal to look at. I don't work on the structuring side though - that part is a lot more technical and if I may be frank, whilst the work can be highly paid, you will usually end up staying late in the office preparing contracts and going through loads of technical documents and increasingly, a lot of companies are outsourcing that function to places like Eastern Europe or India where labour costs are much cheaper than in London or New York. The fact is for every one accountant you hire in London, you can hire one and a half to two in Warsaw, around three in Tbilisi and up to five in Bangalore or Accra. However, London will remain a major financial center and a lot of this kind of business will still be done face to face; so that is why I have chosen a part of the industry that cannot be outsourced to a cheaper country.
Now from the description of the UOB Kay Hian job, it is a structuring job - now that's when the first alarm bells start to ring. Why would you hire someone in Singapore to do a job like that when wages in Singapore are so high and you really can outsource that to somewhere cheaper? But if we can put that issue aside for a moment, the next question I would raise is this: they're looking for a gradate with a degree in business, accounting or economics. That's a rather wide range - what an economics major would study at university could be quite different from someone with a business degree. Instead, you should be a lot more specific about the skills you expect the candidate to have to do this job rather than speak vaguely about degrees like that. And what if someone applies for the job with an engineering degree from Harvard or Oxford - would you turn them down because their degree is deemed irrelevant or would you gladly consider them since they're obviously very intelligent? In any case, what you would have studied at university would vary greatly depending on the country where you have done it in as well as the university you would have studied in. So if a Mongolian candidate shows up with a degree in business from a Mongolian university, would you then say, hold on - this course was taught under a completely different system in Mongolia, the student was taught and tested in Mongolian, is this somehow automatically considered the same as a student who has a degree from NUS? Likewise, what if the candidate has a degree from a private university that will admit anyone who can afford to pay the fees - what then? You see, there are so many flaws in terms of why UOB would make such a demand, like if you're going to insist on the person being a graduate, at the very least make it obvious that you want the candidate to have a degree from an elite university.
Allow me to state something pretty obvious: what these experts in structuring do is very complicated, technical and difficult so by that token, companies prefer to hire clever people who will be able to learn complex processes really quickly rather than idiots who still don't get it after you have explained it to them for the fourth time. Yeah, you don't want to hire stupid people who simply cannot do this kind of work. So if someone has proved that they are highly intelligent by getting a law or engineering degree from a great university, why wouldn't you want to hire them for the job? So allow me to point out the obvious: there's something wrong with UOB Kay Hian's requirements in that job ad because it doesn't point out the obvious and I can summarize it in one sentence. "Be truly brilliant, don't be stupid." Most super smart people tend to go to good universities, so why not just stipulate that you're looking for a graduate from an elite university? Asking for a degree in business, accounting or economics doesn't guarantee that because an idiot can get one of those from a degree mill and if it is merely a box ticking exercise for UOB Kay Hian, then I'm gonna call a spade a spade: that's a stupid box ticking exercise. My boss is an expert in his field who is making a ton of money in corporate finance, yet he would fail this box ticking exercise. His first degree is from Cambridge where he read history - that's not business, accounting or economics but do you have any idea how hard it is to get into Cambridge in the first place and then graduate with a first class honours? He then has his masters degree, but that's in a field of law that has nothing to do with UOB Kay Hian's requirement of a masters in accounting, investment or finance. So this stupid box ticking exercise would automatically exclude someone like my boss from the job, even though he is a highly successful CEO in this field.
Now in a recent blog post, I talked about bad companies who make truly awful hiring decisions. Not all companies are run efficiently and sometimes, the bosses at these companies are flawed and they make some really stupid mistakes. We've witnessed huge companies crash into the ground despite having once been successful - Lehman Brothers, Enron, Barings Bank, MG Rover, Washington Mutual, Pan Am, need I go on? These companies don't grow from strength to strength and then collapse suddenly overnight because of a massive mistake - too often we simply focus on the last straw that broke the camel's back. Allow me to use a medical analogy - we call this a 'death by a thousand paper cuts' scenario. One paper cut is fairly minor and will heal quickly enough, but if you get a thousand paper cuts on a daily basis, then it is going to have a cumulative effect that is enough to kill you. And let's not kid ourselves - even the big businesses that are thriving today from Google to British Airways to Coca-Cola to Citibank to Apple to Amazon, they do make stupid mistakes all the time too! Case in point: just last month, a British Airways flight from London City bound for Dusseldorf landed in Edinburgh by mistake. Is that an embarrassing fuck up and a massive PR disaster? Of course it is. But would British Airways go bankrupt as a result? No, not this time. But if a company makes enough mistakes over a short period of time, then it risks landing in a 'death by a thousand paper cuts' situation. So by that token, should we be surprised that UOB Kay Hian made a stupid mistake in this job ad? Hardly - that's probably one of many mistakes that made that same day, we just happen to have had the opportunity in the public domain so we could put it under a microscope and expose it for how truly stupid it is. They probably would have covered up all the other silly mistakes they made that day and dealt with them all internally and so the public would never know about those other (really fucking stupid) mistakes they made.
I have seen this kind of mindset amongst Singaporeans before - quite notably amongst my parents. You see, they are much older (my dad is in his 80s now) and not very educated, so a good example of how they put blind faith in people in positions of authority is how they justify that drinking cold water is bad for you when you have a cough. They're simply not educated enough to start to understand the medical science concerning this issue, my father's only defence of this theory is that Dr Quek (our family GP in Ang Mo Kio) said so, hence it must be true. I simply roll my eyes when I see the way my father puts our GP on a pedestal because he is most educated person my father knows from his age group - oh he conveniently ignores the fact that his children are all graduates because he can't stand the fact that he is a lot less educated than us. When I get a prescription, I would want to know what the medicines are and the doctor or the pharmacist can explain the active ingredients in the medicines to me and I'd be able to have an intelligent conversation with them - but that's just not possible when you're as uneducated as my father. I've tried explaining complex concepts to him before and you can just see that look on his face when it is evident that he doesn't understand a word I am saying because he's way too stupid. I suppose uneducated, stupid people like that put blind faith in people like their doctors and others in a position of authority, to the point of putting them on a pedestal. So yes, I can understand if an uneducated, stupid elderly man like my father behaves like that - but Naomi? Goodness me, she's relatively young, she's educated and most importantly, she's not stupid at all. Why is she behaving like my uneducated, elderly father in this aspect then?
But I think it is necessary for me to speculate about what may actually happen at UOB Kay Hian - this paragraph is simply me giving UOB Kay Hian the benefit of the doubt because I actually doubt they are that incompetent or stupid. This job ad was posted fairly recently on the 25th March 2019, so if say a highly distinguished candidate with a law degree from Harvard applies for the job, that candidate would almost certainly be considered for the role - the gatekeeper there will undoubtedly have the discretion to bend or even break the rules when it comes to such outstanding candidates. It would be sheer insanity to reject such a brilliant candidate just because s/he didn't have a degree in business, accounting or economics especially if this brilliant candidate is up against someone with a business degree from a private university like SIM. I'm more than happy to assume that common sense will prevail in this case because you'll have to be pretty darn stupid to pick the SIM graduate over the Harvard graduate. Publishing a badly-worded job ad on a website like Jobs Central is but a paper cut to a company like UOB - yes it is mildly embarrassing but it would only be a serious injury to the company if they actually went ahead and hired a total idiot with a degree in business from some degree mill. The chances of that happening is actually quite slim, given that they will subject all candidates who have made the shortlist to an interview process and that part of the process will allow UOB to eliminate those who are either too stupid or plain unsuitable for the role. So regardless of what the job ad may have read, as long as UOB Kay Hian hires the right person for the job, no harm has been done and the badly-worded job ad on the website will eventually expire and be forgotten. So UOB suffers a minor paper cut in this episode but in the big scheme of things, it's no big deal.
Okay, let me move on by talking a bit more about what I do since it is a different aspect of corporate finance: origination and placement. It is a lot less technical and a lot more about whom you know - say for example, I get shown a project like, "A1 Industries is a company in America looking for US$500 million of investments through a corporate bond", it then boils down to whether or not I know the right people who have that kind of money. Being intelligent or having a degree in business, accounting or economics doesn't help me at all - instead, it's whom you know. I have friends in the business who are very lucky in that they are born into a rich family, so before they even start working, they have family friends who are in the business and it isn't hard for them to say, "oh I am sure I can speak to my uncle Hugh, he works in a big investment bank in New York, he would be able to introduce me to the right people for this kind of deal." Yeah, in case you didn't get the memo, life just isn't fair - so when someone like me tries to work in this industry, believe you me, all the degrees in the world are useless to me. In fact, I need to point out that what I did is highly unusual indeed: after all, I'm an immigrant, my parents don't speak English as a first language, they're not educated at all. I come from a working class background, I'm Asian, I'm openly gay and if someone like me somehow turns out to be extremely intelligent, they'll usually hide away in a department like structuring where they can be technical experts in their niche areas and be paid loads for what they do, rather than try to compete with the extremely privileged white kids who have all the right connections. The fact is I don't even think I'm that intelligent (I have met much smarter people in this industry) and I see how hard the people in the structuring department have to work, it simply isn't for me and I've always been good at sales.
I learn a lot from others at the events through observation. If I see someone do something that's highly effective, I'll just copy them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but the key thing is that I do this instinctively without asking for help from a 'teacher'. And that's a huge problem with you Singaporeans - you seem to be obsessed with learning in a classroom from a teacher and then obtaining a certificate or qualification to prove that you've been 'educated' whereas in the business world, the learning never stops. You don't need to learn from a teacher - you can learn from your bosses, from your colleagues, from your friends, from your peers, from your role model, heck even from the internet. This kind of learning is unstructured and less formal than attending a course where the teacher gives you everything from a textbook to lecture notes and even organizing the experiments and group activities that you need to participate in - of course, what I have just described is exactly what a teacher would do for a group of kids in primary school. You can't trust young children at that age to learn by themselves, you need to structure everything very clearly for them and then constantly check if they are doing the right thing. The problem is that many Singaporeans actually want to be treated like kids when it comes to learning rather than learn in a far more autonomous manner where they figure out stuff for themselves at their own pace, choosing their own methods of learning and whom they learn from. This is not a matter of being intelligent or stupid but more a mindset that is a result of the culture in Singapore where students are expected to strictly follow the rules rather than be encouraged to think outside the box, be creative and function independently from a very young age.
Let me give you an example of how this mindset manifests itself: I remember this conversation I had with my old friend Helen (not her real name) from Singapore. Now I know Helen since our VJC days and there's no doubt that she is extremely intelligent, she even got herself a scholarship to a prestigious American university. When work took her to London, she told me that she wanted to take a course in French as she had always wanted to learn French. I told her that she didn't need a course - a lot of people can teach themselves foreign languages: in the old days, we used books and tapes/CDs. Nowadays there are so many different apps out there to teach languages and you can even engage a native speaker teacher through the internet for an hour long weekly tutorial, which you can then fit around your busy schedule. There is a huge variety of informal ways to pick up new languages thanks to technology but Helen was adamant she wanted a course, "I'm a Singaporean, so sue me, I like sitting down in a classroom as if I am back in RGS and learning from a teacher. I feel totally at home in that kind of environment and learn best that way. It also provides a safe environment for me to speak French badly when I am surrounded by other learners so I won't embarrass myself by making mistakes when speaking to real French people. Doing a course and passing an exam is what I need to give me the confidence to speak French." Well guess what? She did one beginner's French course and learnt so little, then she got a new job before getting married and she still doesn't speak French today because she was so insistent on learning in a classroom environment. Helen isn't stupid, hell no. But her mindset is so Singaporean that she has held herself back when it comes to learning new things. She would probably make a great Singaporean civil servant but she is struggling to fit in here in England. So I can see how Naomi resembles Helen in some ways from the way she asked the question.
So there you go, that's it from me on this issue - what do you think? Are Singaporean companies totally barking up the wrong tree when it comes to their policies on insisting on graduates? Why are Singaporeans simply accepting the status quo rather than questioning why some companies have such bizarre if not stupid policies then? Am I too harsh on Naomi or is she genuinely guilty of not questioning those in positions of authority even when they seemingly do something strange or downright silly? Is this mindset quite typical amongst Singaporeans and if so, why? What have your experiences been when it comes to job hunting in Singapore and if you've worked in the West, how do the two differ? Or perhaps, have I been too harsh on Singaporean companies - is there a method to their madness? Is this simply a difference in business cultures between East and West? Leave your comments below please - many thanks for reading.
Hi there, I thought I'd add that I did speak to Naomi who has read this article and she feels aggrieved by it because I had accused her of putting UOB on a pedestal when she claims that she hasn't - she merely wanted to show me that Singaporean companies are doing stupid things like that and for me to comment on it, but she was fairly brief in the way she had written the question so it was my assumption that she had put UOB on a pedestal just because many Singaporeans I know do have that mindset and would do that - but Naomi adamantly denies having ever put UOB on a pedestal.
But you didn't talk about slave labour which is sortoff tangent to the topic. But based on my current experience i would rate local companies as the worst amongst all that i have worked, culture-wise.
In order of preference corporate culture wise: 1st European firms as they are egalitarian, bosses trust workers and least amount of micro-managing 2nd US firms as they rewards you well for good performance, have good welfare, but very demanding and you need to put in the hours to meet deadlines. 3rd Japanese firms as they always stick to their word, but might be consensus based which means individuals might not like it there. Plus point for this is that individuals don't need to make decisions or be held accountable when things go wrong. Too much bureaucratic and lots of inefficiencies as well as low salary increments are why i don't rank them highly.
Always last will be Singaporean firms. I struggle to think of any pros of working for a local company. Having only worked at two local companies during my more than 10 year work life, that is two too many. The first was a SME and the boss showed favouritism and always gave commission to his favourite salesperson even though you closed the sale. The next is my current workplace, a GLC. Lots of bureaucracy, lots of polities and backstabbing, lots of people slacking off during worktime and getting away with it (typical civil servant behaviour), extreme micromanagement, lots of unpaid meetings and overtimes all expected and encouraged by the management, penny pinching, list goes on...
I have worked at a Mainland based office before and i can tell you that they staff and management are not as evil as the Singaporean ones. But China has minimum wage and strong labour unions to protect worker rights (only good thing about socialism?). So if someone tells me that Mainland companies are worse than Singaporean ones i will laugh at their face. China has 2 long holidays in the year, Spring festival and National day golden week, some offices have 2 hour lunch breaks and workers can even go back home to eat lunch. Their mandatory retirement age is still 50 for females and 55 for males. How are they worse than Singapore companies?
Or look at HK, low taxes, high pay, shorter working hours than Singapore, Western based society where most professionals speak English. HK > SG QED.
Hi Choaniki - I think you have raised a valid point.
I didn't talk about the kind of work culture in Singapore in this post for two reasons.
1. It is not relevant to Naomi's original question. 2. You realize I have never worked for a Singaporean company in my life, ever? So I hesitate to talk about something I have never done. Like I have never visited Mongolia in my life before, imagine if I then did a blog post entitled "top ten things to do when on holiday in Mongolia!" - that just wouldn't seem right, would it?
Hi there, I thought I'd add that I did speak to Naomi who has read this article and she feels aggrieved by it because I had accused her of putting UOB on a pedestal when she claims that she hasn't - she merely wanted to show me that Singaporean companies are doing stupid things like that and for me to comment on it, but she was fairly brief in the way she had written the question so it was my assumption that she had put UOB on a pedestal just because many Singaporeans I know do have that mindset and would do that - but Naomi adamantly denies having ever put UOB on a pedestal.
ReplyDeleteSorry about that Naomi.
Oh and also I have received more hate mail (via Instagram) as a result of this - which I shall address in a follow up post.
ReplyDeleteBut you didn't talk about slave labour which is sortoff tangent to the topic. But based on my current experience i would rate local companies as the worst amongst all that i have worked, culture-wise.
ReplyDeleteIn order of preference corporate culture wise:
1st European firms as they are egalitarian, bosses trust workers and least amount of micro-managing
2nd US firms as they rewards you well for good performance, have good welfare, but very demanding and you need to put in the hours to meet deadlines.
3rd Japanese firms as they always stick to their word, but might be consensus based which means individuals might not like it there. Plus point for this is that individuals don't need to make decisions or be held accountable when things go wrong. Too much bureaucratic and lots of inefficiencies as well as low salary increments are why i don't rank them highly.
Always last will be Singaporean firms. I struggle to think of any pros of working for a local company. Having only worked at two local companies during my more than 10 year work life, that is two too many. The first was a SME and the boss showed favouritism and always gave commission to his favourite salesperson even though you closed the sale. The next is my current workplace, a GLC. Lots of bureaucracy, lots of polities and backstabbing, lots of people slacking off during worktime and getting away with it (typical civil servant behaviour), extreme micromanagement, lots of unpaid meetings and overtimes all expected and encouraged by the management, penny pinching, list goes on...
I have worked at a Mainland based office before and i can tell you that they staff and management are not as evil as the Singaporean ones. But China has minimum wage and strong labour unions to protect worker rights (only good thing about socialism?). So if someone tells me that Mainland companies are worse than Singaporean ones i will laugh at their face. China has 2 long holidays in the year, Spring festival and National day golden week, some offices have 2 hour lunch breaks and workers can even go back home to eat lunch. Their mandatory retirement age is still 50 for females and 55 for males. How are they worse than Singapore companies?
Or look at HK, low taxes, high pay, shorter working hours than Singapore, Western based society where most professionals speak English. HK > SG QED.
Hi Choaniki - I think you have raised a valid point.
DeleteI didn't talk about the kind of work culture in Singapore in this post for two reasons.
1. It is not relevant to Naomi's original question.
2. You realize I have never worked for a Singaporean company in my life, ever? So I hesitate to talk about something I have never done. Like I have never visited Mongolia in my life before, imagine if I then did a blog post entitled "top ten things to do when on holiday in Mongolia!" - that just wouldn't seem right, would it?