Saturday, 30 March 2019

Let's talk about bad companies out there

Hi! I've been in conversation with one of my readers "LR Singapore" and we touched upon the topic of companies with a range of bad practices, particularly when it comes to hiring. Certainly, he isn't the same person who has come to talk to me on my blog about this issue - I've had plenty of people come to complain to me about companies which are for example, I was told this story about a company in Singapore that run by a Filipino director who would deliberately hire other Filipinos in order to create a Filipino-majority work environment. The person who applied for a job in this company was interviewed by the Filipino boss but felt that he was rejected purely on the basis that because he was Singaporean-Chinese, rather than because he wasn't good enough for the job and he had assumed that the job had gone to a Filipino person instead. Likewise, there was this other Singaporean who worked for a Danish company and he was worried that he would be passed over for a promotion because he wasn't Danish, that the Danish boss would always favour a Danish employee over him because of the cultural affinity he would have for a fellow Dane. I will go through some of these stories and offer my response as an older businessman who has seen plenty of really bad business practices over the years. But here's a visual representation of the worst business decision in Singapore's history below: in 2 words, Sun Ho.
Some companies have made awful decisions: case in point.

So let's start with LR's comment that some companies have really bad hiring practices: for example, they would insist that you have a degree but wouldn't differentiate between a degree from Oxford and one from a private university that is not worth the paper it is printed on. This is probably a governmental organization or a big company which has a set of rules regarding hiring practices set in stone and that the HR manager executing the hiring process doesn't have the power to change or challenge those rules. Do organizations like that exist? Of course, without doubt, they do. Are these hiring practices bad? Well, it depends whom you're talking to! If you've worked so incredibly hard to get a degree from Oxford only to be treated exactly the same as an SIM graduate, then of course you're going to resent the system. But if you're an SIM graduate, you'll be totally delighted with such a system because you're not discriminated against for having performed poorly in your exams and having a degree from a shitty university. Hence with every set of rules, there are bound to be winners and losers. As discussed in a previous post, different people will have a different opinion about the same system and it depends on whether or not they will benefit under the system or not. Therefore when it comes to hiring practices in private companies, really there's very little regulation and is it very hard to prove that you were discriminated against even when the alleged victim has valid reasons to feel that s/he has been discriminated against.

So let's look more closely at HR managers who refuse to discriminate between graduates from different universities - who insist on treating all graduates as if they're the same. Let's analyze the situation: you see, there are some jobs which don't require a degree at all, I did talk about air traffic controllers for instance in my previous post. It is a highly skilled, highly technical job that is so niche that no degree in the world could be relevant - instead, you undergo training that is very specific to the job and since there are so few people employed in this sector, no university in the world would want to run a course. After all, it's a well paid, respectable, highly skilled job - it's a bloody good job, but there are only so many airports in the world and for a city the size of Singapore, how many air traffic controllers are there employed at Changi airport? Not many - certainly not enough for NUS to want to run an undergraduate programme on air traffic control. So I can see circumstances whereby HR managers simply don't care which university you have studied at because the job you do is so niche that it has absolutely nothing to do with anything you could have possibly studied at university. I am dealing with very complex financial instruments on a daily basis - none of which could have been covered in any undergraduate programme at any university so it is not that I'm working in a job that doesn't require me to use my brain, rather, it is so challenging that no degree in the world could possibly help me do what I do. Thus why even insist on applicants even having a degree then? Why not just be honest and say, "we don't care if you have a degree because it is not going to help you in this role, so feel free to apply and if we like you, we will hire you." For some reason, many companies insist on hiring only graduates which in my honest opinion, makes no sense at all. Is this bad practice? Yes it is, but then so many companies around the world are guilty of bad practice. Let's begin with a case study: meet Angela.
Angela is a highly qualified accountant and had applied for a job at a company which she thought suited her - she has all the relevant qualifications and work experience. During the job interview, she was asked about her family situation - whether she was married, whether she had any children and whether she intended to have children. She protested at these questions, telling the male interviewer that these were very personal questions that she felt were rather intrusive. The male interviewer than volunteered the fact that he had two children and that there's absolutely nothing wrong with talking about one's family - he also pointed out that sometimes they would have to work overtime in order to meet very strict deadlines and if she had children, she needed to be aware of that and make the necessary arrangements for childcare in order to stay in the office till the job gets done. Angela then diplomatically said, "yes I am married, no I don't have any children yet but I'll like to keep my options open on that issue and that's a decision that I will have to take with my husband in due course, when the time is right." What Angela didn't reveal was the fact that she had a good friend who worked in the company - when Angela was rejected for the job, she found out that they had hired a less experienced gay man who was openly gay and more to the point, declared that he would never ever have children ever, not even through adoption because he had no paternal instinct whatsoever. Angela felt she had a valid case about being discriminated against for being a married, heterosexual woman of child-bearing age. However, the case fell apart when the employer was able to justify hiring the gay man instead of her - the gay accountant spoke two foreign languages fluently whilst Angela was monolingual and the company did have foreign clients so Angela lost her case unfortunately.

The fact is even if you find yourself in Angela's position, you can't win - the best thing to do is to cut your losses and focus on finding yourself a better place to work. The fact is each employer has the right to define their own criteria when it comes to selecting the right candidate for the job: I remember a friend Joe once being in a difficult situation which he handled beautifully. He was in a job interview which was going quite well when the interviewer asked him if he liked football, Joe honestly answered yes. So the next question was, "which team do you support?" Joe got nervous, if he picked a team that the interviewer hated, he feared that would work against him. Luckily, Joe's wife is from Poland and the local football team from her hometown is Arka Gdynia. So Joe took the opportunity to explain the connection to the town of Gynia and why they are big supporters of Arka Gdynia.  Note that Arka Gdynia are such a local Polish team they would never play a team in the English Premier League like Arsenal. He then skillfully turned it around and asked the interviewer which team he supported and the reply was, "Arsenal". Joe then said, "oh yeah, Arsenal are totally brilliant, they are the gods of football - Arka Gdynia can only aspire to be like Arsenal one day" which seemed to have sufficed as it made the interviewer smile and Joe did get the job. Joe then heard that the interviewer had a bad habit of picking Arsenal supporters for his department and that his office was shamelessly decorated with loads of Arsenal memorabilia. Joe eventually left that company after about a year, because it wasn't a good place to work especially under that director who supported Arsenal - somehow, that turn of events didn't surprise me at all once I understood all the circumstances.
What about the story about the Filipino director who would only hire Filipino people then? Well then, as unusual as it may seem, the director would probably be able to make some kind of justification for that kind of discrimination - for example, if the company has Filipino clients, then it would be advantageous for the candidate to speak Tagalog and if that is carefully worked into the job description, then they have a legitimate reason to reject any applicant who doesn't speak Tagalog fluently. After all, companies are paying you to do a job and they have the right to define what the duties are for the role - if they insist on having someone who can deal with Filipino clients in Tagalog, then the only thing you can do is to learn Tagalog in order to compete with the native speakers to get the job or decide to look elsewhere. This is quite different from when you're a customer - say you're a paying customer in a hotel in Manila, they would have to provide you a decent level of service in English and not discriminate against you just because you don't speak the local language. Oh I remember going to a nice restaurant in St Petersburg in Russia and they quite deliberately arranged for a waiter who spoke some English to serve my table because even though I do speak Russian rather well, I was the only non-white person in that restaurant so they made an effort to make my dining experience perfect. Quite simply, when you're paying good money for a service (such as when staying at a hotel), you get to make the demands as the paying customer. But when you're being paid good money by an employer to do a job, the tables are turned and they are the ones who get to make the demands - not you. Hence by that token, I don't think you can really complain about that Filipino director making the rules in a way to favour Filipinos - his company, he's the one paying the salaries, hence he gets to make the rules. You don't like his rules? Don't work for him. Just go work for someone else or better still, start your own company. 

And what about the story of the Singaporean guy working in the Danish company then? I found it hard to be sympathetic with that guy because I am the only Asian (though not the only non-white) guy in my company. This Singaporean was worried he would not get the promotion as the Danish boss would rather promote someone who was Danish or at least a white European like a German or a Swedish person. You see, I work in an environment where you're expected to pull your weight and deliver - you're paid to do a job rather than be social there. That's why the company is making a lot of money, the boss is hiring the best people for the job regardless of their nationality, skin colour, social class or sexuality. That's why an openly-gay Asian immigrant from a working class family like me can get a job there because I work hard and deliver results. My boss has a family, he has his own friends, I'm not part of his social life and he's happy to keep our interaction completely professional because he realizes I have my own social life as well. But let's give my reader the benefit of the doubt for a moment, let's say hypothetically, he really does have a boss who will discriminate against people who are from a different part of the world, what would you do then? Well, let me put this to you. If you come across a restaurant which has been exposed for having very poor hygiene (see video below from Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares), would you eat there? Of course not, no way - you would not. And if I were to offer you a job in that very same restaurant knowing what they are like, would you accept such a job? Obviously not. Or even if you did, you should probably quit on your first day (if you had any pride) the moment you realized what they're like rather than be complicit in their disgusting ways. So if this guy really had Danish boss really discriminated against Asians, then he should have quit.
Nonetheless, I would put some responsibility on everyone regardless of their circumstances to get along with the people they work with. In the case of the Singaporean in the Danish company, is he being discriminated against because he isn't white-European, or is he discriminated against because of his lack of social skills? Heck, I remember when I was in JC years ago - there was a weirdo in my class (let's call him Chung - I had talked about him in a previous post) who was very intelligent but had zero social skills. He spent his two years in JC without making a single friend, during his break time he was always on his own, studying. Now Chung was Chinese-Singaporean like the majority of his classmates, so you can quite easily take any kind of racism out of the equation and point out that he had a serious problem when it came to having the right social skills to make friends. I can imagine if Chung went to work for a Danish company, he probably would be hired because he was highly intelligent and highly skilled but he would still struggle to make friends in the office, leaving him just as isolated and lonely as he was when he was my classmate back in the day. So if someone like Chung came to me and claimed he was a victim of discrimination, I would be inclined to point the finger of blame at him for being a bull in a china shop in the social skills department. This reminds me of a situation years ago when this gay Indian friend of mine (let's call him Raj) complained that white guys always say no to a date with him because he was Asian. I looked around the room and none of my white friends dared to point out the elephant in the room - it was left to me because I was the only other Asian guy there. I said, "Raj, it has nothing to do with the fact that you're Asian, you do realized you're very fat. Are you totally oblivious to your own obesity? Most gay men wouldn't want to date someone so fat and you really need to lose some weight. This is all about your obesity, you're fat! It has nothing to do with racism."

Of course, it would be simplistic to say that if you encounter bad people in your company, you should simply walk away from the situation and work elsewhere. Some people don't have that luxury of doing that - I can speak from personal experience as I had to serve national service (NS) in Singapore back in the day and boy, I had to work with some pretty awful people back then. There was no escape, no way I could walk away from that situation - it was left to me to make the most of a bad situation. I have witnessed so many people in that kind of situation just give in to despair and they start blaming everyone else, but that approach has never ever solved any problems for a simple reason. When you play the part of the victim, you're claiming, "it is not my fault, it is someone else's fault, I don't need to change, they need to make things right. I am just going to get angry and do nothing because it isn't my fault." It is pretty obvious why that approach doesn't solve anything if you're expecting someone else to solve your problems! But when you manage to accept that whilst it isn't your fault that you have this difficult situation before you, it is still your responsibility to find a solution because no one else is going to do that for you - that's when you're on the right track to make the best of a bad situation. In fact Will Smith has done a brilliant video when he talks about handling fault, blame and responsibility which he explains very clearly and it has gone viral because he explains it so clearly - I wish someone had done a video like that for me when I was so much younger. So if you've not seen it. here it is below. Please take a moment to watch the video.
I need to ask an important question: why do people like LR have this attitude, that they are almost shocked or upset when they realize that there are some companies out there with really poor HR practices? I think it is a matter of having too much faith in the systems that govern your society - look, when we get on a bus, we trust that the bus driver knows what s/he is doing and we'll get to our destination. When we buy a hamburger from a somewhere like McDonald's, we trust that they are going to serve us a decent burger and that we're not going to get food poisoning from the burger. When we buy something from eBay, we trust that the item will arrive in the post and we don't worry too much about things going badly wrong (and if things do go wrong, you can always turn to their customer service team). Imagine if you lived in a corrupt society where you couldn't trust anyone - from doctors to teachers to politicians, oh dear. Fortunately, we do live in a society where we can relax and trust the vast majority of people around us, because most of them are trustworthy. However, things can go wrong - you can get bad parents, bad teachers, bad bosses, bad doctors and bad politicians. Thankfully, this is the exception rather than the norm otherwise it would be virtually impossible to lead a normal life if you couldn't trust people to do their jobs. Think about the way children in primary school are taught to respect figures of authority: parents, teachers, the police, the military, the government and if the family is religious, the child would also be taught to respect figures of authority within the religion as well as the gods and deities within that religion. At some stage - often during our teenage years (or earlier) - some of us will start to grow increasingly rebellious and resent figures of authority telling us what to do whilst others will remain so very respectful and obedient to authority.

In December 2012, I wrote a piece on my blog about my mother's relationship with the government in Singapore - she is a PAP supporter and I described it as her faith in the benevolent egg. You see, she isn't particularly highly educated nor does she have a lot of self-confidence, so she would like to think that there are others around her, in her life, who can take care of her: people such as her husband, her children, her employers, her government and of course, since she's religious, her church and her god as well. So people like my mother go to bed at night knowing that even as she is asleep, her government will watch over her and keep her safe and that her god is smiling down on her from heaven - so that's why she is so relaxed and can sleep well. This kind of mindset really isn't that uncommon amongst older Singaporeans - I remember an incident when I told my family that an Indian boy in my school had been the victim of extreme racist bullying, my parents were extremely shocked because in their opinion, I had earned myself a place in one of the best schools in Singapore and according to my parents, bad behaviour like that are not associated with students in such good schools. But then again, there's virtually no correlation between one's intellect and one's morals - boys who scored straight As can be racist, homophobic, misogynistic and can be capable of doing a lot of awful, evil things such as bullying. I witnessed what these boys were capable of so it didn't shock me at all - what did shock me was the way my parents were totally aghast that something like that could actually happen, this was because of the way they had such blind faith in the Singaporean system and they couldn't fathom that something like that could happen within their system.
How much faith do you have in the social structures around you?

Thus I am wondering if LR actually has so much faith in the Singaporean system that he is genuinely shocked that there could be companies in Singapore with poor HR practices? I don't know for sure as I can't guess what is going on in his mind. It is possible that this probably has a lot to do with his upbringing but more importantly, whether or not he has been previously exposed to people in authority who are flawed. So when I was in Florida, I remember coming across a rather large alligator in the car park and I got such a shock. A local man saw me reaction and simply said to me, "relax, just walk around it - it won't disturb you if you just leave it alone." I suppose he has seen plenty of alligators in the car parks around that part of Florida! Another American example is the recent scandal about rich people who have bribed good universities to accept their children when they haven't achieved the grades to earn themselves a place there - if you've seen corruption at that level before, you wouldn't be surprised at all but if you genuinely had faith in the admission system, then you would be quite shocked at how corrupt it is. So I am postulating that LR actually hasn't been exposed to that many flawed figures in authority - that's why he finds it hard to believe that companies would actually put up with such bad HR practices. I suppose it is a double-edged sword: after all, if you totally lose faith in a system, you'll become jaded and cynical - you may believe that it is useless to work hard because the system that was suppose to run on meritocracy has become totally corrupt. Hence it is not a bad thing to still be shocked from time to time like that, you may see him as quite naive, but with that naivety comes faith in the system and hope for the future: that can't be a bad thing.
So that's it from me on this issue - what do you guys think? Have you ever encountered awful companies out there who have terrible HR practices? Have you ever worked in such a company? What do you think we should do if we realize our employers are guilty of such mistakes? Are you surprise to find out that there are so many companies out there guilty of such truly atrocious HR practices? Do share your thoughts below and leave a comment please, many thanks for reading.

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  1. Hi Lift, you are right, because most Singaporeans were brought up to believe in "meritocracy", that is solely defined by academic success, that comes to the current exhortation by the pap govt to move away from a narrow definition of success by academic results. As you mentioned about Chung your classmate lacking in social skills, the same may be said of myself in social skills, motor skills and spatial ability. I find myself unable to navigate places that are complicated in their design with many turns and small alleys. The problem with the education system which focuses on grades is you neglect to build up on other essential life skills, and you will find yourself throw into a world that is more complicated than academics, and you are correct that when hiring, the hiring managers can set their preferences and priorities, it is hard to argue if they need someone who can speak a foreign language of a client. But I would say since English is the lingua fraca language of business, it may not be wise to hire someone with that specific language ability, without considering other requirements to perform the job.

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    1. But what do you think about my accusation - that you have a lot of faith in a system that is supposed to be 'fair', that's why you're shocked when you discover all these companies out there with rotten HR practices? Is that a fair allegation? Do you expect companies to play the the rules or do you simply roll your eyes cynically every time you hear about yet another company breaking the law?

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  2. I used to believe that the system is fair, so long you put in the efforts, you will be able to achieve some results. I came to realise that this may not be the case. Take for example you may have put in efforts in doing a solo assignments and get a lower grade than someone who was able to copy the assignments from a brilliant stident. They also have access to the passed down notes and test papers of seniors due to connections. In a sense you lost out if you have little social abilities to get these materials, and every advantages count when you are in a competitive course. Now back to the question of the system being fair, so far before I entered NS and university, and the workplace, I do believe so. In fact the pre tertiary education system is such that if you put in the efforts, you should be able to perform well in the same national examinations. This is not the same as in university studies, work or NS.

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    1. Hi LR - well, I have news for you. The system is incredibly unfair - what you've described in terms of assignments, well that's just the tip of the iceberg in real life.

      The fact is you do not solve anything by resenting the system or being upset that it is inherently unfair. The sooner you accept that faults in the system, the sooner you can get on with solving your own problems and making your life better. I just had a Skype conversation with my sister and my dad wandered into the screen, said something really dumb and walked away. And I'm like, right - case in point, that's the kind of stupid father I have. He did so little for me. Like I could get so angry and bitter about it - I had a lovely conversation with my boss earlier this morning about work and I'm like, wouldn't it have been nice to have a father I can actually have an intelligent conversation with instead? But no, it is what it is. I can be bitter or I can get on with life and be grateful for what I have without sugar-coating it.

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  3. I'm stereotyping here, but due to lax labour regulations and a surplus of cheap labour, Sg is a horrible place for employees to work.
    Most of the companies I had worked for (5 at last count) either have no HR practitioner or have one in title only. My previous employer had a "HR" manager who is really the finance manager but handles employees' payroll which is sort of a HR function. Recruitment is outsourced to an external company. Talent retention and staff training are non-existent.
    At least my current employer has actual HR trained personnel. But lots of shady stuff like non-payment of OT and expectation of staff to stay back for unpaid meeting and "training" sessions. I know stuff like this would never fly in certain European countryies but it is the norm in SG. And I work for a government-linked company so I'm sure they know the rules and the gray areas open for exploitation.
    Needless to say I will leave once my bond is up. I have a line of recruiters banging on door but I hope to cast my net overseas.
    SG is really a country that will squeeze every drop of economic benefit out of their labour force and then spit you out to another country (Malaysia, Thailand) once you are old and unable to pay taxes or contribute to the labour force.

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    1. Well, here's my take on this: you can't change the way people run their companies, you can only decide whom you wish to work for. There are good companies and bad companies - I've got a good friend in Singapore who's a CEO of his own company, he's a brilliant guy who takes good care of the people who work for him. It is highly naive to put every employer on a pedestal and expect them to be nice people - there are plenty of nasty bosses out there and we have to take responsibility for whom we choose to work for and be prepared to change jobs if things get too bad.

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    2. The problem is that those companies are the exception rather than the norm. Good companies with free food and rest pods like Google aren't common and very hard to get into.
      Mediocre and lousy companies that pay their staff low salaries and expect long working hours (eg: https://imgur.com/QJwmnPS) are more common due to the lack of a minimum wage and the lack standards for allowing cheap foreign workers in on a work pass.
      No point searching in Singapore for a unicorn, it is much better to work elsewhere rather than to keep job hopping until you find a good boss.

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    3. Oh allow me to warn you please that the streets in the West aren't paved with gold - sure there are good companies but they hire the best. If you're a loser with an SIM degree, you'll end up in a shitty company whether you're in Singapore, London or New York. There are good and bad companies here in the West as well and surprise surprise, the ones like Google tend to attract the cream of the crop. I know loads of people in London stuck in shit jobs because they either don't have the right skills or the right degrees to access better jobs. So whilst the system in Singapore is flawed, don't expect things to be much better in the West.

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    4. I'm not saying that the West is magical and bad companies suddenly disappear. I'm just saying that with tougher immigration policies and labour regulations (unpaid overtime hello?!) the chances of getting into an exploitative company is much lesser.
      You already know that Singaporeans work some of the longest hours in the world. And most of it might be free due to the lack of regulation forcing employers to pay mandatory overtime.
      But my industry is in high demand and for e.g. I know if I go to HK today my pay would immediately double and I would get a guaranteed 2 hrs of paid break everyday (compared to 1 hr non-guaranteed in SG). The language barrier, high housing prices and crazy crowds are factors stopping me for going there.
      But I know that elsewhere in the world I could easily get a higher pay and/or lesser working hours so it is a more attractive deal for me.

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    5. Having a degree from a reputable university is not enough in my opinion in Singapore. I was comparing the curriculum of Singapore institute of technology in chemical engineering with the syllabus from National university of Singapore, and the SIT course is more industrial oriented, even though SIT is a newly established local uni in the scene. An employer would go for a graduate with the right skills rather than the right degree.

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    6. Hi Choaniki:

      1. Yes you make a valid point about labour regulations and if I may point out, there's also a different kind of culture. My boss messaged me today because he wanted my opinion on the wording of an email to our client - his whatsapp message started with, "Hi Alex, I'm sorry to disturb you on a Sunday, when you have a moment please, could you take a look at this?" If I had showed that to my Singaporean friends working for Singaporean companies, they would be stunned because they regularly do stuff on Sundays and reply to their bosses' emails on Sunday like that's totally normal.

      2. HK is a lovely city - but then again, I am seeing it through rose-tinted lenses. I visited HK last year, stayed with my friend who had a beautiful house there and was treated like a VIP by him and his family who were such incredible hosts. The only thing I hated was the weather as it was just like Singapore - urgh. Too hot.

      And hi LR:

      3. I think you're wrong on so many levels. Employers don't depend on universities to teach the candidate everything they need to know in order to do their jobs - we don't expect the worker to hit the ground running based on something they have learnt at university. The fact is the lecturers and tutors at university have no idea what kind of job we will find or what kind of company we may eventually work for in the future. Many companies will have a comprehensive training programme to make sure that they teach all new recruits how to do their jobs properly.

      I love dramatically taking some fresh graduate's thesis or project and chucking it over my shoulder, allowing the papers to flutter through the air and then saying, "nobody cares what you did at university, that's child's play. You're now in the real world." Everything that you said about the syllabus blah blah blah - I'm like, seriously? You're sooooo wrong. Because honestly, nobody gives a fuck.

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    7. Hi LIFT, but in Singapore you will hardly find employers willing to train fresh graduates. Most of them want people with experience to start the ball rolling, so.it is good if the syllabus has already made you somewhat industriai ready.

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    8. Well LR, then we go back to the problem of good vs bad companies. If a bad company cannot be asked to make the effort to train their fresh grads, then you don't want to have anything to do with such bad companies. It is one thing to have some work experience, but even if you had worked in another company before - they may have a totally different way to do things and you can't cut corners and skip on the training.

      It is extremely shortsighted of companies to try to save time & money by skipping proper training because you'll just end up with clueless workers not knowing what to do and making costly mistakes. And of course, I have very little faith in the teachers at universities - like if they were so freaking brilliant, why aren't they working out there in the real world earning big bucks, why are they merely teaching in a university? It doesn't make sense to place so much faith in the university system.

      So if you're telling me that there are bad companies out there, I agree - as explained in this article, of course there are bad (and good) companies out there, you can't assume that they're all good. But it almost sounds like you're justifying the bad practices of these bad companies out there in your latest statement, which I say, does demonstrate that you're very confused to sat the least.

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    9. LIFT, I am not contradicting myself, it is just that if most companies would only want to hhre those with the knowledge and skills, as a fresh graduate you are disadvantaged if these knowledge and skills are not taught in the courses and employers expect graduates from these courses to have these knowledge. For example I came across engineering jobs requiring one to have the ability to read and understand engineering diagrams, to able to use software to draw engineering layouts, or to possess working knowledge of statistical process control, or process improvement methods like six sigma, or quality system like ISO. None of these are actually covered in depth or in practical applicability in an engineering course. I do not blame the employers for wanting to hire those who can perform immediately, but as Choanki mentioned the employment laws are lax and immigration controls are weak, hence leading to a plentiful supply of labour skilled of otherwise. I would say it is a policy issue in terms of edicaeduc and manpower.

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    10. Hi LR, thanks for your comment. Allow me to dissect what you've just said.

      Yes it makes sense for employers to expect their candidates to have certain useful skills that can be very important in the workplace - now at least in the West, most graduates would have had some work experience along with internships throughout their time at university. The work experience may be undertaken during the holiday periods or some even take a whole year out just to get more time for that work experience. Internships are another important part of the equation because it allows the student to prove that they have had some vital experiences in a real work environment - competition to do internships at good companies is often very intense, so if you have managed to score an internship with a reputable company, that makes you look a lot more attractive to a potential employer.

      Thus the onus is on the fresh graduates to maximize their work experience and internships whilst at university, rather than dedicate every waking hour to revising and studying without actually stepping into the working world. There is a balance to be struck - if you're simply a straight A student with zero work experience, then something has gone terribly wrong if no one has explained to you how you've neglected something so important.

      You then raise a valid point about having to compete with more experienced workers (both local and coming from abroad) - how do you as a fresh graduate with limited work experience compete with someone who has been working for 5 years or so? I think the answer to that question is simple: money. It costs a company a lot less money to hire a fresh graduate because starting salaries are low for someone who has little/no experience, however with for someone with 5 or more years work experience, they will cost the company more to hire. So if I can get myself a bright, young promising graduate who is clearly extremely talented and pay him/her only the average starting salary, then I have got myself a bargain because this person is likely to go on to do great things. A lot depends on whether or not the company is willing to train and retain talent like that or if they operate on a churn and burn policy - like I said in the article, there are good and bad companies out there.

      I think the challenge for Singaporeans is more the influx of cheaper competition - so if you have a Filipino engineer who has 5 years of work experience but willing to work for a much lower salary, how are you going to compete with that?

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  4. The govt has recognized this skills mismatch in courses and industrial needs, but for the issue of manpower they are not able to satisfactorily resolve it because some areas and jobs are hard to find locals that wish to work, like F&B, oil and gas, marine offshore, retail, and cleaning. Oil and gas jobs are tough, retail, F&B jobs long hours and tiring. These jobs few lovals want to work in, but for other jobs like executives, admin, finance etc, companies may not be able to pay very high salaries to attract locals to work. I also suspect companies also feel that locals are not as motivated as foreign workers for some reasons. When I said bad companies, I mean those who are unappreciative and tried to squeeze every economic benefit from the workers.

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    1. Well, allow me to make a few points in response to what you've written.

      1. There are always these gaps in the labour market in any country you go to - there will be the jobs that the locals shun because of long hours, low pay, lack of prestige etc and that's when you will need foreign labour to fill those gaps in the market. It is not just a Singaporean situation but it happens in so many countries. An interesting case study is Poland - so many Polish people have left Poland to go work in richer EU countries like Germany, Sweden and the UK because they can earn so much more in these richer countries. Even if they worked in a supermarket in London, they could probably earn a lot more than if they had a better job in Warsaw. So there are such huge gaps in the Polish labour market that they started getting labourers from Ukraine - a neighbouring country that is a lot poorer than Poland. So now you have Polish workers in the UK and Ukrainian workers in Poland. But the Ukrainian economy is a dumpster fire at the moment, so that's why those who can leave have long left.

      2. I think it is up to you to prove to your employer that you are hungry, that you're eager to prove yourself, that you're highly motivated and keen to achieve a lot. It doesn't matter what your nationality is or what your skin colour is - at the end of the day, it is how much value you add to the company. Say the company pays you $5000 a month - are you adding at least $5000 worth of value to the company as a result of your presence? And is it a lot more than $5000, or less? In the commercial world, companies are motivated by profit rather than any other social agenda: prove to your employer that you can make money for them and that's all that matters.

      3. As for bad companies, yeah we have talked a lot about bad companies in this post. There are bosses out there who treat their workers very badly. I think you're surprised that good companies are pretty rare and that bad companies are the norm. Well I am not surprised at all that there are so many awful, nasty, bad companies out there. Why are you even surprised when you come across those? I've just seen a case where a friend of mine was treated unfairly by his boss - long story, but he was blamed for something that wasn't his fault. Yeah it's a bad company to work for, but until he can find something better, he has no choice but to stay there and put up with that kinda crap. Like I said so many times before LR - holy shit, there are so many fucking awful companies out there! Now the question is, are you willing to find yourself a good company to work for, or are you going to throw a tantrum over the fact that the majority of companies out there are not good places to work at?

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    2. 4. Finally, I want to assure you that yes there are good companies out there, not all companies out there are bad, there are good bosses out there. But by that same token, given that good companies are in the minority, many more people wanna work there and you have to be amongst the very best of the best in order to secure a job in a good company. Say a good company wants to hire 10 people and 1,000 people apply for those 10 jobs, the good company will select the 10 best candidates to fill those positions and if you're not in their top 10, then tough shit you're not going to get one of those great jobs at that good company.

      Yes there are great companies with good bosses out there. But if you're not the cream of the crop, then I hate to be the bearer of bad news, you're probably going to end up working in an awful company with the boss from hell.

      And c'est la vie, such is life. Have you studied hard enough to make sure you're in the top 10% of your cohort?

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    3. I have no honours degree, I guess I am out of the race? Just to add on to the point of adding value to company...My role is to help the company get their regulated products approved by the authorities, hence they can make sales. I feel this is a critical role and you are able to create value if you are able to comply with regulation with minimum time and costs, hence helping to make sales happen. This is a role that requires more than head knowledge but able to build good relationships with the authorities. In my opinion, this role is value adding, if you can get compliance in a cost and time effective manner, but the ball is usually in the other party court. Having said that, other roles like logistics, purchase, production are required to get the final goods and each of them is value adding in their own way, but if someone can provide the same value at a lower pay, then even if your role is value adding, you will find yourself being removed. The question will be what are the roles that are so niche that you are irreplaceable, is there such role?

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    4. Not necessarily. I have an honours degree but guess what? I am working in a job that doesn't need a degree, so someone without a degree can compete on level footing with me. You have to pick a path that suits you. So a fish should choose to swim in the water, whilst the bird should choose to fly through the sky - imagine if the fish tried to fly or if the bird try to swim. It's not going to work, is it?

      You seem to be pretty keen to work for a good company - I'm just pointing out that there are good companies out there but competition to get into a good company like that is pretty stiff and if it won't work out for you, then be prepared to have a plan B, C and D.

      And of course you're replacable - we all are. My parents used to say that it's better to be a teacher because as long as there are children, they will need teachers and you'll never be out of a job. Your biggest challenge is not from cheaper foreign competition - no, rather it is from automation. I can imagine computer programmes being designed to replicate the kind of role you do to reduce the amount of input from a human being, so the compliance procedure becomes more or less a box-ticking exercise that a computer programme can execute so much faster than a human being. A lot of processes in the world are constantly being replaced by automation but I am going to ask you to watch this video to explain why we shouldn't fear automation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUmyygCMMGA In short, economies will evolve and change all the time. It's really no big deal to encounter something that comes along that disrupts things in a big way, they change the game and we all have to adapt, find new skills, become really quick at learning about new processes/products in order to reinvent ourselves quickly.

      You cannot stop the threat from automation or foreigners competing for your job, but what you can do is have faith in your ability to adapt and change quickly. So rather than look for such a niche role that's irreplaceable - why not just be prepared to adapt and evolve quickly?

      Or you can just become a teacher - like my parents.

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    5. I agree with you that certain part of my role can be automated but it is not going to be easy, given AI may not be accurate in interpreting the subtleties of regulations. I will give an example of a certain compound that is restricted but in the regulations only the class of the compound is mentioned, so an AI trained to look for an exact match will not detect that the compound is restricted. To add on, I am also a coder in VBA and JavaScript and I have automated certain routine processes in my work.

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    6. LR, not all jobs can be easily replaced by AI but AI will have an impact on the way you do your job as certain aspects start being automated. The way to react to that challenge is by learning new skills to evolve as a skilled expert in your field, so you can have more to offer to your employer.

      Some employees are merely staring at the clock, waiting for the moment they can finish work and go home. Others are looking for new ways to constantly develop their skills and evolve as experts in their fields. In short, you reap what you sow.

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    7. I get what you mean. Lift. I am taking up courses whenever I can. Going for a diploma course in formulation science and technology. Actually I have an issue at home. My father is mentally unwell and he would ramble at times and affecting my sleep and I would not able to rest well and will have to take leave off the next day from work, the thing is I have not be able to successfully ballot for a BTO from HDB, and even if I got one, in would have to wait for some years. The other way is for me to rent a house outside, but it will cut me back by $600 a month, which means I would not be able to contribute too much to the household. Any suggestions to help me?

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    8. Hi LR. Sorry for the late reply - I've been away in Poland.

      I empathize with the situation - my parents both have mental health issues and it is something I can relate to. There is a high tech, low-cost solution to your problem, I did see various companies doing 'noise cancellation headphones' which enable people like us to sleep through situations like this. From time to time, I turn to using white noise during my sleep to mask the noise coming in from the street (I live on a busy street) and my sleep does improve a lot when I am not disturbed by external noises. If your father is merely talking to himself, then this will solve that problem from a noise perspective and it really doesn't cost that much (compared to moving out) to solve that problem.

      Apart from that, the only other solutions I can think of all cost money and it's clear that those options are not really suitable for you right now.

      Is your father getting any help with his situation? If not, think about getting him help (or more help) as that would improve the situation too.

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  5. @LIFT I think the more pertinent topic you should talk about is why, as a rich and highly developed economy, does Singapore engage in slave labour like labour practises. For e.g. foreign domestic help until more recently did not enjoy a legislated day off, cleaners earn less than $1k/mth, construction workers earning even lesser than $1k whilst needing to pay off huge debts to agents, etc.
    In the past (1980s and earlier) most of the construction workers were women from China (Samsui) who ended up being our ancestors. Then later on when costs became prohibitive the supplies changed to Thais and now even they have gone and the majority of the current batch of construction workers are from Bangladesh.
    Why can't Singapore businesses grow and become profitable like those from Japan (where they hire lots of locals with reasonable wages, even cleaners and construction) instead of depending on cheap or slave labour like gulf states like Qatar (who is the richest country in the world)?

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    1. Choanki, in your opinion do you feel a fresh graduate with little work experience should expect a starting pay of $3.5k, many fresh graduates have this belief. Now coming to the point of cleaners, and construction workers, they are paid low so that more profits go to the investors. I do not really think Singapore economy is competitive in terms of quality services and products,they compete on costs in my opinion.

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    2. We are a joke, even foreign media is talking about it.
      https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3004901/rich-singapore-why-must-migrant-workers-go-hungry

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    3. Hi Choaniki - good points. Naomi has asked a good question which will form my next post and I will attempt to address some of those issues then as well as there's definitely an overlap. Akan datang, bear with me please, I only just got from from Poland 12 hours ago.

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    4. @LR why not? I think 3.5k is a jokingly low pay depending on what you are doing (engineering etc). A fresh graduate in HK can easily draw more than SGD5k and they have a lesser workload and lower taxes.

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    5. I love what my old boss used to say about the issue (I work in says you see): "you want a pay rise? Simple: sell more. You write your own pay check! Sick of being poor? Simple: sell more! You have the power to change your own destiny if you're willing to work hard!" In sales, there's a direct correlation between how hard you work and how much you sell (and thus how much you earn).

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    6. Follow up post here: https://limpehft.blogspot.com/2019/04/corporate-death-by-thousand-paper-cuts.html

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    7. In the type of work you do, you mentioned having connections are important, but as someone without the social network, how did you build it up, and I supposed you also need to possess financial knowledge and analysis skills. I was reading a book and it says you need to be good in at least one hard skills so that you are the only one who can value add in that area, then your employment will be secure. Do you agree?

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    8. Hi LR.

      Yes building these connections in business through networking is important, but I stress that this is about connecting with people, making friends, talking to people rather than memorizing a huge volume of knowledge in order to pass an exam. You see, Singaporeans tend to be really good at memorizing really thick textbooks in order to pass exams, but ask them to make small talk with a stranger and they suddenly panic. Let me give you an example: you're at an event and you get chatting to a lady who mentions that she is currently working on a project in Greece. Do you:

      A) Go into blind panic because you don't know that much about Greece - you then shut up and not say a word because you're terrified that your ignorance will be exposed. But if you keep your mouth shut, you wouldn't risk saying anything incorrect. So you fall silent, smile and nod whilst others take over the conversation.

      B) You are convinced that you need to connect with her, so you start saying random things about Greece in a desperate bid to try to establish a connection. You realize you had probably gone to far when you said, "I read a blog written by this guy called Alex and he went to Greece, he posted some pictures of it on his blog."

      C) You follow the conversation and ask opportune questions at the right juncture, "so, when did you start working on this Greek project? Well will you get the funding? Will the investors be Greek as well? Will you be spending some time in Greece to complete this project? Have you spent time in Greece before? Do you have a lot of experience with the Greek market? etc"

      My mother goes down the route A) because she is like a rabbit in the headlights, she is terrified of saying something that will embarrass herself so she will always shut up in a group conversation. That wouldn't work because you don't build connections by being silent - you'll end up being ignored in a group situation because you don't want to talk. My father goes down the route B) but that's a recipe for disaster because he says random shit that's usually totally unrelated to what everyone else is talking about, but he doesn't filter the information - he just blurts out the first thing that comes to mind. In doing so, he exposes himself to be stupid and ignorant and most people dismiss him as an uneducated fool as a result. Whereas I go down route C) - I don't profess to be an expert on all these subjects, instead, in a rather cheesy way, I know how to look people in the eye and say in all sincerity, "that's really fascinating, do tell me more about your amazing work please." Even if I have virtually no technical knowledge, I more than make up for it with my social skills.

      You need financial & technical knowledge along with analytical skills to pass an exam, but for networking, you need social skills - the kind that you need to ask the most beautiful girl in the class out on a date, not the kind of skills you need to pass an exam. Therein lies the difference. You seem so focused on the kind of knowledge we need for an exam that you have totally ignored the social aspect of talking to people. I'm sorry to say this, but your mindset is sooo typically Singaporean.

      Part 2 coming up.

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    9. Part 2: Nobody is going to want to be your friend or network with you because you're knowledgeable. We live in the age of Google and Wikipedia, I can take out my phone and Google anything and get the information I want within seconds. People will want to network with you because you're fun, you're charming, you're interesting to talk to, you give them a good impression and they enjoyed meeting you. Now that's all about social skills and not about memorizing vast amounts of facts for an exam. This requires the kinds of skills you need to impress someone on a date - do you know how to seduce someone you really like?

      Look, my father doesn't speak English - I came from a very working class family in Ang Mo Kio and I'm now working in finance in London. I needed to build up a network from scratch in London, I didn't know anyone, I had no friends when I got off that plane at Heathrow airport. You think people are going to do business with me if I start trying to tell them how knowledgeable or smart I am? Talk about being a weirdo or a creep. No fucking way. That's how you scare people away. No, rather I'm just the guy who says, "oh that's so interesting, do tell me more about what you do." People fucking love talking about themselves. I can talk to someone for 30 minutes and they will talk for 90% of the time and the 10% of the time when I talk, I'm merely asking questions. And then they walk away with the impression, "I really enjoyed talking to that Alex, we had such a lovely conversation." Of course we did, I polished their ego - that's how you network. It's so cheesy but it works.

      By that token, I don't have any hard skills. I have a useless degree, I speak several languages (but trying to monetize that is so hard), I am good at talking to people and I have my cheesy methods to seduce people into doing business with my company. Compared to say an engineer, a dentist, a pharmacist or a plumber, I'm fucking useless when it comes to hard skills. Oh let me be the first to admit how fucking useless I am when it comes to adding value - but I put on a nice suit and tie, I smile, I'm cheesy and I broker deals and holy fuck, it is unreal how much money I can make like that despite the near total absence of hard skills. I only have soft skills and they're as soft as cream cheese.

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