Alex: Hello Stacy, could you give us a quick summary of the incident you have had to deal with at work recently please?
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Stacy: Okay, I must stress that all the names of the individuals involved have been changed and I cannot divulge enough details to identify any of the people involved, but I will try as far as possible to give you an accurate account of what has happened. At the secondary school where I teach, there's this girl called Leah (not her real name) and she has been having a terribly hard time at school - there's something very unusual about her, she's not a normal child. She has absolutely no friends, she makes no efforts to interact with the other children. Oh she has no social skills at all and she is a total loner at school, she chooses to isolate herself from the others and the other children just think that she's weird. There's not that much we can do about kids like that, so we leave them alone if they're perfectly happy the way they are but the problem happened when her mother - let's call her Mrs H - started complaining to the school that the other children are ganging up on her daughter, that they are bullying her daughter, that they are spreading vile rumours about her daughter and she also accused me of turning a blind eye to the blatant bullying that is going on under my nose in the classroom. Now that got me quite upset because Leah wasn't being bullied by the other students as alleged, but I only found out that Leah had been going home, telling her mother that everyone including the teachers have been so horrible to her at school and that somehow, none of this is her fault and she is simply the blameless victim of bullying at school.
Alex: Aah I see and what was her mother Mrs H like then?
Stacy: She came to the school and shouted at the headmaster. Oh he tried his best to contain the situation and he had to involve me, as I am Leah's teacher but Mrs H was like, "how can you allow this to go on in your school? My daughter is being bullied and is going to be damaged long term as a result of the psychological trauma she has to endure on a daily basis in the classroom and you guys just pretend you're not responsible for any of this!" She complained to everyone from the local council to the ministry of education - she called up the local papers, she was pointing fingers at everyone.
Alex: Yeah. Everyone but herself. She is the perfect mother, of course, right?
Alex: Well, my parents are severely autistic and have no social skills to speak of as well, they're probably as bad as Mrs H but thankfully I have two wonderful older siblings who taught me a lot of the vital social skills I needed to get through life. I am assuming therefore that Leah is an only child? I think I was so very lucky as I had two older sisters growing up.
Stacy: Yes that's right. She is an only child. We don't know much about Leah's father either, we have his name on record but he has never showed up in school and Mrs H refuses to answer any questions about him whenever we try to ask about him. She would evade the question or go on the offensive, "how dare you pry into my personal life, this is not about me - this is about how you're failing as a school and not doing your jobs!" So we actually know little about Leah's father.
Alex: So what has the school done in response to Mrs H's complaints then?
Alex: After you explained this to Mrs H, what was her reaction?
Stacy: Of course she rejected it, she claimed that the rest of the students were lying and so I put it to her that it was possible that Leah was the one lying because she refused to take any personal responsibility for her inability to make friends, that no one had deliberately bullied or isolated her daughter. But of course, as you can imagine, Mrs H rejected that out of hand, claiming that it was far easier for us to blame her daughter than to take on a collective group of bullies.
Alex: May I play the devil's advocate here, is there any element of truth to that? I'm suggesting this because I know bullies will normally want to pick a soft target and it does sound like Leah is an easy target: this girl comes from a dysfunctional family, with a weird mother who has no parenting skills, she becomes an awkward teenager with no social skills and doesn't know how to make friends. If the school bullies wanted to find someone to pick on, Leah sounds ideal.
Alex: Actually I have to point out that even your plan may not work. Allow me to tell you what happened at my local gymnastics club. There's this woman - let's call her Bella, not her real name. She spent a few weeks as part of our adult gymnastics programme which I take part in as well, as a volunteer coach. She's a complete beginner, but that's not the problem. She expected special attention, special treatment - you see the gymnastics classes are run as a class, you have like two coaches teaching like 20 to 30 gymnasts and the coaches will pick a skill like, okay today we will learn how to do the front handspring vault and then we'll set up the drills, the exercises and everyone will participate together and learn together as a class. But that's when Bella gets bored, she would claim like, "oh that's too difficult for me, you've picked a skill that a beginner like me can't do". The coaches would try to reason with her, okay you may not be able to do the skill as well as some of the other more experienced gymnasts, but you can start learning the drills and start understanding how the whole skill is going to come together eventually, that's how you make progress. But no, she would sulk, go off and pick up her phone, sit in the corner and complain that the coaches are ignoring her. We would then tell her, Bella you're an adult, if you want to pick up your mobile phone and go sulk in the corner, we're not going to go running after you and invite you back to join the class because you're not a child - you've paid good money to throw a tantrum. If you choose not to take part in the class, that's your choice. Nobody has excluded you from the class, you've chosen to exclude yourself. She even once screamed at the coach at the top of her voice for not paying attention to her.
Stacy: People like Bella are similar to Mrs H - they are their own worst enemy. Their behaviour has caused a problem but they refuse to acknowledge that they are at fault. They blame everyone but they will never ever accept any responsibility.
Alex: Actually my parents are totally like that too. I wonder if this is a trait of autistic people?
Stacy: You see that's the problem: I see it as a trait of people being downright flawed, this refusal to accept any responsibility when there is a problem, that's a sign of immaturity that I associate with kids. I am a teacher, I work with children and I can see how some kids grow up and mature faster than others and the ones who are more grown up, who are more capable of functioning like an adult are the ones who will accept responsibility when things go wrong. Then you see the brats who will lie or blame everyone else when things go wrong, because their first instinct is to defect blame - they think short term, "maybe if I can get someone else to take the blame for this, then I won't be blamed for it and I won't have to clean up this mess". But of course, in life, it doesn't work like that - sometimes it is blatantly obvious that you need to clean up your own mess if you're the one who created it and more importantly, if you never take responsibility for your mistakes, then how the hell are you ever going to learn from your mistakes and become a wiser person? You're just going to keep making the same mistakes over and over again, because you're not even taking that vital step to acknowledge that it is your fault and learn anything from the mistake. And if your elderly parents are like that Alex, then my goodness, mate I do feel sorry for you - it must have been so difficult growing up with parents like that. I feel for you.
Stacy: Well, if that's grandmother you have, can you blame your mother for behaving the way she does if that's the kind of parenting she grew up with? That's why when I look at Leah, yes she is a pain to deal with but I don't blame her - I blame Mrs H, I blame the parents for having let down their children. Where will the kids learn the social skills from?
Alex: I don't think that's a valid excuse - a lot of the time we simply figure it out. Let me give you a simple example: when I go shopping for clothes, on one hand I am considering whether or not I like the item I see before me but on the other hand, I'm also considering what others may think about me when they see me in it. You see, I am a man in his 40s and there's a fashion trap that many middle aged men fall into! They ignore the fact that fashion trends have evolved over the years and they wear something they have bought like 15 or 20 years ago - that piece of clothing may have been fashionable back then, but if you wear it today, it screams, "I've not been shopping for new clothes since 2001 because my ex-wife has left me, I totally hate my job and I hate my life. I have no reason to look good for anyone." You'll be amazed how many older men fall into that trap, even within my industry and I certainly don't want to look like a sad, old, pathetic middle aged man who has hit an oil patch at 40 and is just skidding rapidly towards an early grave! Call it vanity, but I think caring about how people judge me is actually quite healthy particularly in my case as I am autistic and typically, autistic people fail to care about what others think as they become very self-centered. That's why I believe that cultivating a healthy dose of vanity in children is actually pretty important. You need to care what others think about you.
Alex: You could say the same thing about my parents, they were so anti-vanity. They constructed a narrative in their heads that vanity is evil - it leads to people being shallow, narcissistic, conceited, arrogant, sexually promiscuous...
Stacy: Wait, I get all the others but sexually promiscuous? So how do you go from being arrogant to being a total slut?
Alex: I think they believed in the idea that if a girl wears make up, like lipstick for example, the only reason she is doing it is to seduce men and so by that token, vain women wear lipstick for the sole purpose of seduction, of being a slut. So that's why they went out of their way to demonize women who took pride in their appearances, who made an effort to look nice. It's a strange logic because I think a woman can always make an effort to look nice for herself, because she wants to feel comfortable, confident and happy with her appearances - it doesn't always have to be about pleasing others. That's why they really cannot understand why I spend so much time, money and effort in dressing up for work - most of the time, I do it for myself and they think I'm vain. And you know what? Yes I am vain, very much so and I think that's actually a good thing. I do care about my appearances, that makes me take care of my body and want to wear nice clothes that looks impressive to others. But my question for you Stacy is this: can we get people like my parents or Mrs H to start caring about what others think about them? Or is this like a psychological condition which prevents them from being able to see things from another person's point of view? Is this a problem that even has some kind of solution then?
Alex: The simple answer is a very basic desire to be liked by my peers. From an early age, it occurred to me that it would be nice to be liked by my peers, you know, to have friends. I have observed how some kids in school were more popular than others and I was not one of them. I know what you're going to say - you're autistic, autistic children tend to be loners who have no friends, right? But that doesn't mean that I didn't want friends - I just wasn't very good at making friends, well not at least until I was around 17 years old when my social skills were better developed. A poor person may not have money, but he can look at a rich person with envy and desire wealth - by the same token, an autistic person may not have any friends, but he can look at the popular kids at school with envy and desire to be well-liked and accepted like them. When you're poor and you want to make money because you're sick and tired of always being broke, you're motivated to find a way to become rich. Thus I was lonely and I wanted to make friends because I was sick and tired of being on my own, so I was motivated to find a way to make loads of friends - I know it sounds rather simplistic, but it worked. Thank goodness I grew up before the age of the internet because I can see people like Leah and Bella simply retreating into their phones, tablets and laptops to look at stuff on the internet instead of making a genuine, concerted effort to make real friends and connect with people out there when they are lonely. There's always plenty of games, social media and entertainment online for lonely people and that distracts them from the problem but it doesn't solve it.
Alex: It's so difficult for me to say this, but I feel I have to say it. I tried to kill myself as a teenager, I was so depressed that I wanted to end it all - it didn't work out, obviously I'm still here, I am still alive at the age of 42 today. But one thing that didn't happen was that it didn't change anything, I was locked up in a mental institution further to the suicide attempt, but nothing changed amongst my friends and family - it was extremely foolish and naive of me to think, "oh if I punished everyone in my life by committing suicide, then they will change for the better, I would get the parents I want instead, parents who loved me, who understood me, who took an interest in my life". My parents didn't change after my suicide attempt, everything kinda just went back to the way things were remarkably quickly and I had to learn the hard way that in life, you don't get rewarded for behaving badly, by threatening suicide or committing suicide - if you want things to get better in your life, you must look in the mirror and change yourself, improve yourself and you have to start by correcting your own faults. You cannot point the finger at your parents, your family, your friends and demand them to change because you can't make that happen, not even by threatening suicide. If something is wrong in your life, if your life is seriously fucked up, then you have to help yourself and in a strange way, I am glad that my bad behaviour wasn't rewarded. I was taught the hard way, "go ahead, kill yourself, nobody loves you, nobody will give a shit if you're dead, you'll be forgotten in a few weeks" and in a sense, that made me realize that I was completely barking up the wrong tree.
Alex: Do you think that Alice would still be around today if she had the kind of reaction that I did after my suicide attempt when I was around her age - in my case, nobody really cared. I think my parents just didn't know how to cope with it so they went into denial and pretended that it never happened, I got no sympathy, no help, nothing. I know it seems harsh but that jolted me out of my stupidity. Were the people who were falling over themselves to be nice to Alice actually harming her instead by being nice to her, driving her eventually to kill herself? Were they responsible for Alice's suicide?
Stacy: I can't say definitively, you're asking a hypothetical question and we don't know for certain. What we do know is that the outpouring of kindness and goodwill didn't work at all because people were nice to Alice for a limited amount of time only - their motivation was guilt, like, "we live in a nice peaceful town, this is a nice school, we can't have something like that happen in our perfect lives, this is the kind of school where my kids should feel safe." But they were nice because they felt sorry for Alice, it was based on sympathy and compassion and that's no basis for any kind of long term social relationship because at the end of the day, whilst Alice enjoyed having people treating her like VIP, she still had no social skills to try to turn that goodwill into genuine friendships - so it was like people were making sure she was okay and not going to kill herself again, then they went back to their own lives and once again, she was all alone again. It's a bit like how you described your late grandmother liked getting admitted to hospital, because then the whole family would show up with bouquets of flowers and fuss over her. There are so many people out there you can feel sorry for - refugees fleeing war torn countries, people who have been struck down by a horrible illness, people who have lost limbs because they were in horrific car accidents, this list goes on and on. Alice may have shocked people into getting their attention for a while, but it wasn't sustainable in the long run; no, you can't expect that outpouring of compassion to go on indefinitely.
Stacy: Yes. Hindsight is 2020 and that's my fear for people like Bella and Leah, that she will end up like Alice.
Alex: To conclude, I want to get your opinion on that story on the BBC which has gone viral - 14 year old schoolgirl Molly Russell killed herself last year and her father did an interview with the BBC blaming social media, quite specifically, Instagram for her suicide. So can I ask, what is your reaction to that story please, having dealt with such cases then?
Stacy: I am so utterly disgusted with the horrible father. The father just blamed Instagram and didn't accept any of the responsibility at all for his daughter's suicide. The fact is he was living under the same roof with his daughter whilst she was descending into deep depression and becoming suicidal - did he not notice? Did he not spend time with his daughter? Even if she was hiding it from him, I'm sorry but it's your responsibility as a father to make sure your daughter is okay and if she is so distant from him that she wouldn't talk to him, then that's a clear sign that you've totally failed in your responsibility as a father to cultivate a kind of relationship with your child where there's any kind of trust. He has failed to connect to his daughter, she doesn't trust him, he is a really bad father and even now, instead of saying he is sorry he hasn't done more to help connect with his daughter, he wants to blame social media? That's utterly ludicrous, as if he is such a great father and that somehow, it wasn't his fault at all? I totally blame him - I think it is entirely his fault. You want to have children in this day and age, you know they will go on social media, you have to control and monitor what they do and see online - that's your job as a parent, in fact that's your responsibility as a parent. I'm deeply disturbed that the BBC gave him a platform to blame Instagram without actually pointing the finger and saying the words, "it is your fault, you're a very bad father, your daughter is dead because your totally failed her. You don't have the right to blame Instagram, it is entirely your responsibility. You should feel extreme guilt over what happened to your daughter."
Stacy: Thank you. I hope this opens up a healthy discussion on this difficult issue on your blog with your readers.
Unfortunately, there is no required parenting certification to be a parent. Many parents are delusional. Children are entitled and under-challenged in the things that matter. The educational system has been dumbed down. Mediocrity is celebrated I see it everyday. I was just having a conversation with my son, who is having a hard time with Pre-Calculus 12 (YIKES!), about perseverance and fortitude. These two qualities are sorely missing in youth today. Everything is instant. Now. High speed. Extreme high speed. At your finger tips. All the more so for parents to step up and instill values that will carry children through challenges. Instead, parents themselves have taken a more laid back approach to parenting because they live in an age of instant gratification themselves. Apples. Trees. No surprise.
ReplyDeleteHi Di - I am wondering if you have ever had to deal with a student like Leah or a parent like Mrs H?
DeleteOh, the tales I have to tell you! I'm working on a project right now, but I will get back to this in a few days.
DeleteThere was this boy who was fooling around at the back of the class where he loved to sit. He was 10/11 years old. He kept bothering others, preventing them from learning. I sat him in the front, surrounded by straight As girls who put him in his place. He was miserable because he was not getting the negative attention he so clearly thrived on. A week into this misery, his mother came after school and yelled at me for making his child hate school. My administrator at that time did little to support me. He let her yell on and on. I later demanded a union meeting with admin., parent, and myself. Admin bristled saying that he did not want attention. I insisted. Parent continued to be belligerent. I explained the boy was making sexually inappropriate remarks to girls. Parent said I was a prude. Long story short, I did not apologise for placing the boy with girls at the front of the class where he had to pay attention. I said if that were my child, I would thank his teacher for caring enough to move my child to a spot where he could learn better. Rest of the school year, I ignored the idiot. He fumed because he was not getting a rise out of me.
DeleteAnother child --- mom worked in the same school district. Said her son was bullied. I said actually he was the one who was constantly bothering other kids. Let's see --- foul language, throwing rocks, rolling on the floor during lessons, not doing his work, peeping under the stalls in the washroom, punching, kicking peers on the playground, ... He was only 6 years old. Mom said I was picking on him. I said, "Well, if calling your son repeatedly to take his seat so he can follow the lessons is considered picking on him, then I will stop doing that and let him roll around on the carpet instead of learning. It is so much easier to ignore him anyway. YOU tell me what you want. You want him to learn or to roll around on the carpet? Just let me know." Mom, who worked with special needs kids herself, knew I had her. She was super pissed. Dad stepped in and said, "Well, sounds like when I was in school. I turned out all right. I'm a successful (insert manual blue-collared occupation here), if I do say so myself!" I was laughing my head off. I mean, who says crap like that? A successful plumber, electrician, mechanic, crane operator, cement-mixer ...? I don't go around saying I'm a successful teacher. My principal does not go around saying he is a successful administrator. Only this idiot brags about being a successful blah, blah. Anyway, mom continued to slander me. Child went on to misbehave in the next year with other teachers, to my delight.
Parents like these blame everyone else for their miserable, wretched kids because they cannot accept they are BAD PARENTS raising BAD KIDS, who will go on to become BAD ADULTS.
Holy crap.
DeleteAll I can say is that I can never do what you do. You deserve a pay rise and a medal for doing all that.
Oh yeah, staff was also constantly called bitches, whores, fucking whores, douche bags, mofo, !##/&*(), and all combinations of verbal abuse. Admin reward kids with treats when I sent them to the office.
ReplyDeleteI am now in an affluent neighborhood school. Kids are lovely. Goes to show that it's all about the family and the way they are raised.
I think this does relate to a point that I made in a more recent post where I said there was a correlation between wealth/poverty and good/bad behaviour - you can see that on a national scale where crime rates are low in rich countries like Japan and Iceland, but high in poor countries like Nigeria and Venezuela. But if we apply that on a smaller scale within a big city, then yeah the same principle applies. Take Chicago for example, there are affluent neighbourhoods with extremely expensive housing for the rich people then there are the gang-ridden neighbourhoods where drugs-related gun violence happens everyday - of course, that's where the poor people live.
DeleteSo by extension of that logic, if you wanna be a teacher, don't be a teacher in one of those dangerous neighbourhoods. Teach is a nicer neighbourhood. Is that generally true or am I giving rich kids too much credit?
Rich kids and rich parents have other issues. Entitlement is one. In any given week, I have kids away on vacation. Right now, one is in India and another in China for three weeks. Then there are the Disneylanders,the cruisers, the sun catchers, etc. They send me emails, "Please send work for the next XX days/weeks because we will be away." I don't prep for your vacation, Darling.
DeleteThe only difference is rich parents are more on board with high expectations. They also do not swear at teachers. More education = more reason?
There are exceptions to both demographics, of course. Idiots everywhere. Mental illness is a real disease and is on the rise in kids. Those kids who swore at my last school were mentally ill and disturbed. If not treated, they will end up in the headlines. Murderers and thieves do not wake up one morning and decide to go commit crimes that day. They start in the playground. They were raised by parents who blame everyone else but themselves. Bullies on the playgrounds grow up to be bullies on the roads, bars, and workplace. They kill spouses and neighbors and pets. They rape and deal drugs. Criminals are raised by parents like the ones we mentioned.
Oh gosh. You make me feel like I've been such a selfish person compared to you. All I wanna do is use my wealth to protect myself from people like that and you're engaging with them and trying to educate them.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, you deserve a medal and a kiss from Trudeau.
You mentioned a Trudeau kiss ...
DeleteI am not the only one who wants to kiss Trudeau I'm sure! :)
DeleteLet me share my experience. I am socially awkward and I have low self esteem as to why people would like to mix with me. So in my opinion, poor social skills stemn from low esteem which is linked to poor parenting. A kid may be smart but the society we live in requires us to be socially ept. I grew up having not much parental guidance. My father would bring his victim mindset at work and imparted to me at a young age of 6 to 9 telling how people did not reciprocate his favours at work. It affects my view of people, that if someone is unkind to me, I should be unhappy about it. No doubt I have the right to be unhappy if I have done nothing to offend them, and I just do not want to join in with them like in NS, but it was hard because you lived and stayed with the same group of people for 2 years. It is not that I do not want to interact, but I was having some cognitive issues and it was affecting my ability to communicate and socialise. When I recovered, I was scarred by these experience and could not let go of them, and hence further hampering me. In my world, I distinguish clearly between black and white, because all the social interactions I had were from TVB dramas, and my parents have failed me badly on training my social skills. I am good academically doing well to get into one of the most popular chemical engineering course in NUS. However, university studies is different, you need a lot of independence and also knowing how to find solutions, which the Singapore pre uni education system does not really train. A lot depends on your parenting.
ReplyDeleteHi LR Singapore, look - I can cry you a bucket of tears because I can totally relate to what you've been through. You've read my blog and know what kind of fucked up family I come from, but what good would throwing a pity party do? We just have to deal with the hand we are given and move on with our lives. I'm glad I've given you a safe space to get this off your chest, we're here to provide mutual support of course, but I don't want you to ever feel sorry for yourself because that achieves nothing.
DeleteThank you LIFT. Just have to move on with what you have in life. At least I am born healthy and a functioning mind to overcome these odds.
ReplyDeleteThank you LIFT. Just have to move on with what you have in life. At least I am born healthy and a functioning mind to overcome these odds.
ReplyDeleteHi LIFT, for those people having problems to cope with their own lives i.e no motivation/interest in life, how to help them and also to help themselves to get back on their feet?
ReplyDeleteTough one Jon - there's a saying, you can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink. If someone doesn't want to accept help, there's no point in offering the best possible guidance, help or support in the world. It is easy to help someone who would gladly accept your help - but if someone is not interested in accepting your help (or wants something in particular - like money), then no, stay the hell away from them and don't get involved.
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