Sunday, 18 January 2015

Working with people from another country

Hello everyone. I have recently had an exchange with one of my readers who is a Singaporean 小白 working in Denmark and he talked about a form of very subtle racism he has encountered there - you can read his comments in full here but here is a quote from him on the issue just to get us started on this issue which we will discuss today.

"Basically, it is not intentional discrimination; but as an example, because Mr Boss feels more comfortable working with a person with similar background, culture, local language, it is quite normal that he chooses or grants more opportunities to A who shares the background as himself rather than B who comes from a very different background and speaks English with a different accent. (Vice versa, it is easier and always more enjoyable for me to speak to someone to understands a crude army joke.) So such discrimination is indeed a form of bigotry and it can happen anywhere and to anyone. But from personal point of view, as a Singaporean working here in Europe, where I am always the only Asian in any management meetings, structural discrimination is evident for me. Sure, I take steps to adapt, learn the jokes, way of thinking etc to lessen the effect, but I will never be able to be fully customized. The locals here have 40 years of living in such environment; even different nationals but from the same European roots will adapt more easily than us Asians, after all they share some form of similarities (their cuisine, taste buds, historical war in Europe, etc). I am actually fairly ambitious and I know that it will be hard to breach the "glass ceiling" here in Denmark so I will choose to go back in Singapore eventually where I will have a greater chance of being the top dog there."
That's me - the only Asian face on a the Alarm Fur Cobra 11 shoot.

Allow me to begin by talking about my experience. I have arrived in the UK in 1997 to do my degree and since graduating, I have worked in a number of countries around Europe and the Middle East. In most cases, I am often the only Asian or Chinese person in the company. In some rare cases, I have had an international mix of white and Asian/Chinese colleagues but I have never been in a Chinese-majority work environment before. So yes, I do feel that I am in a very good position to talk about this issue. Are there people like this "Mr Boss" as described by my reader? Of course there are but let's acknowledge that there are people like that everywhere. Take my father for example - his inability to speak English means that he is very uncomfortable if he is placed in a situation where he is forced to use a mix of broken English, Singlish, Malay and bits of Mandarin to communicate. I have witnessed him in such a situation before, where he was struggling to communicate with an Indian-Singaporean neighbour like that and when I appeared, he was so relieved as I could be his interpreter.

Now does my father have anything against that Indian-Singaporean neighbour of ours? Not really, I don't think we knew that family that well, but there was simply a language barrier. My father speaks Mandarin, several Chinese dialects and Malay with ease (as he is from Malaysia) but this neighbour spoke only Tamil and English - they didn't have a language in common. So hypothetically, would my father be comfortable working with this Indian-Singaporean neighbour? No, he wouldn't - for the simple reason that the linguistic and cultural barriers would prevent them from understanding each other. That is why my father's social circle does pretty much only include other Chinese-Singaporeans in their 60s and 70s, because he feels more comfortable with his peers with whom there is very little cultural or linguistic barriers to communication. He avoids people who cannot communicate with him in Chinese.
My father speaks Chinese as a first language but can't speak English.

So yes, if you were to work for someone like my father (well he is retired, so that is a hypothetical question), then you can be sure he will only hire other Mandarin-speaking Singaporeans and possibly Mandarin-speaking Malaysians. However, what if you worked for someone like me? Certainly, I am very proud of the fact that I speak ten languages and this has allowed me to work in places like France, Belgium and Germany, where I have thrived in a non-English speaking environment. Never mind being the only Asian on the team, I have been the only non-French or non-German native speaker on the team. In short, it doesn't faze me to work with people from other countries who speak another language - I find that rather exciting to meet people from all these countries!

I suppose that started for me back in university, you see, since I went to one of the top universities in the UK, it attracted many international students from all over the world. In our group projects, I would have interesting discussions with students who came from countries as diverse as Israel to Sierra Leone to America to Japan. This patterned was replicated when I went to study in France, where again, my French university attracted students from all over the world and I had not just the opportunity to mingle with the French students, but those from the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, Algeria and Hungary. This created a particularly rich and interesting learning environment because of the diversity of cultures within the student body and we did learn a lot from each other at university.
I met so many international students at university.

Given that I stand out because of my ability to speak so many languages, my work has always drawn me to a very international work environment, where my languages would give me a natural advantage over a monolingual person. I have lost count of the number of nationalities I have worked with over the years! It suffices to say that I have worked with people all over Europe, the Middle East, much of Asia and both North and South America as well as from all over Africa. I remember when I worked in sales, the company I had worked for was dealing with clients from all over the world and the sales floor was buzzing with so many languages. You could walk around and hear a dozen different languages spoken - it was like a mini United Nations. No, there wasn't a single person who had a similar upbringing as I did in Singapore - but did that bother me? No. Did it bother my colleagues? No, it didn't either.

Need I state the obvious? Sure there will be people who are like my father - who are both unwilling and unable to transcend linguistic and cultural barriers and will always seek people of very similar cultural and linguistic backgrounds. Then there are people like me who speak ten languages and have worked in many countries who are completely unfazed by linguistic and cultural barriers. And then there's everything in between of course, it is just that my father and myself represent the two extremes on that spectrum. So let me put this to you: I do not dispute the fact that 小白's boss in Denmark may be rather similar to my father in that he probably feels more comfortable working with someone of a similar cultural background and can speak Danish - but isn't he making the wrongful assumption that all European bosses will be like this boss? Certainly, I have worked for Europeans and Americans who are a lot more like myself - that is hardly surprising since my language skills have always pointed me in the direction of international trade where my language skills are highly valued and I end up working with others who speak at least four languages.
小白 has mentioned that he works in "manufacturing" (a rather vague term) but it does suggest that he is a highly skilled technical professional in his field and that he is not reliant on his linguistic abilities or his communication skills for his job. Could I humbly suggest that he probably could do more to improve his soft skills in the workplace if he is concerned about how he is getting along with his colleagues? And if he is really concerned that for whatever reason, he is getting passed over for promotion in this company, the solution is to find a company where the environment is far more international and less jingoistic. It is going to be far easier to fit into a company where the staff are from 20 different countries than to be the only Singaporean in a Danish company. Heck, I've been the only Asian on a German project in Cologne before, so yes I have done that before. Many of my German colleagues were not fazed by the fact that I was a foreigner, but they were extremely warm and welcoming because I was a team player who worked hard.

I think there is this assumption that bosses would always hire someone from their own country - that is simply not true in all cases. I am not denying the fact that some people like that exist, but do not make the assumption that everyone is that jingoistic. Heck, I am one such person - I was born in Singapore, I am of mixed DNA extraction (but mostly Chinese),  I speak English as a first language and French as a second language, I do not speak my father's mother tongue at all, I do not self-identify as Chinese at all, I have a British passport, I have spent half my life in Singapore and half my life in Europe: in short, I am a mongrel who is a bit of everything. Since I do speak ten languages, I do not feel the need to associate myself with people who speak one language (the way my father does with other Chinese speakers) since with my ten languages, I am able to communicate with most people from around the world with ease. So I am happy to work with anyone from any country - as long as they are nice people who will be a joy to work with.
I may be from Singapore but I certainly do not identify with Singapore at all.

Am I unusual? Perhaps. I am very privileged in the sense that I have had an excellent education, I am extremely gifted with languages, I have had the opportunity to travel around the world and work in many places - thus I am the polar opposite of my father who is terrified of the world outside Singapore. Heck, never mind work with a  foreigner - my father is even terrified of Angmoh food. My nephew once wanted to go to an Angmoh restaurant and my father just couldn't say no to his beloved grandson. But when we got there, everything on the menu just fazed my father and we had to explain to him what each dish was. He hated the whole experience so much, everything tasted awful to him and the worst part was trying to get him to eat with a knife and fork instead of chopsticks. Yeah, that's the kind of person my father is and it is ironic that he produced a son who turned out to be the polar opposite of him. If you are going to work abroad, then make sure you are going to be working for someone who is more like me in this aspect and less like my father. I'm sorry to be this blunt but you do need to open your eyes and evaluate the company and the management when you apply for a job: are they going to be nice people to work with?

But let's say 小白 gets fed up with Denmark and returns to Singapore - what next then? Is he going to magically get along with everyone in a Singaporean company? No, he isn't. This is because Singaporeans are anything but a monolithic entity - instead, Singapore is a diverse country with 5.3 million inhabitants, there isn't a clear definition of what constitutes a "Singaporean identity" because Singapore is in fact made up of people from different communities, different social classes, different ethnicities and different religions. It takes a lot more than being from the same country or even having had a similar experience (such as serving NS) to get along with a colleague. Since 小白 mentioned sharing a crude army joke in his post, please allow me to share with you a little story from my army days.
Is there a clear definition of what is a Singaporean identity?

Now there was this Singaporean Indian staff sergeant 'Matex' (not his real name) who wasn't particularly popular, he was a controversial character for so many reasons and I worked for him in my unit. As his birthday approached, an officer in the unit gave some money and told me to get a birthday card so that everyone could wish Matex a happy birthday. So the card was passed around the unit and when it came to me, I just signed my name and wrote 'happy birthday' next to my signature and passed it on. A few hours later, when Matex was given the card, I noticed some of the Chinese soldiers giggling. Matex then came up to me and asked me, "Can you tell me what those Chinese characters mean?" I looked at the card and to my horror, I saw the words, "去你妈的黑狗!" (Go fuck your mother, black dog!)  I was mortified but pretend that my Chinese was so bad that I couldn't read all the characters so I wasn't sure. Matex knew I was lying but he didn't pressure me as he knew I wouldn't have written something like that. He then managed to get an officer to translate the Chinese words and that officer had a very good idea who was capable of writing something like that. Matex came back to me and asked me, "I knew you could read those words, why didn't you tell me what they said?" I replied, "I didn't want to upset you on your birthday and I thought it was wrong of anyone to have written something like that in your birthday card."

That is an example of a crude army joke - clearly somebody thought it was funny enough to go through with it, but I certainly didn't find that kind of humour amusing at all. In fact, it was racist and highly offensive. Even within the microcosm of my SAF army unit, not everyone was able to agree on whether this "crude army joke" was funny or not. In a recent blog post about the Charlie Hebdo killings, I talked about how humour is very culture-specific and whilst some French people may find Charlie Hebdo absolutely hilarious, non-French people may be totally puzzled by their cartoons and may find them offensive. Similarly, in a place like Singapore, there isn't one kind of humour that is understood and appreciated by all Singaporeans . Some Singaporeans may find Jack Neo's many personas like 梁婆婆 and 梁细妹 funny, others may find Neo's drag acts rather stale and slapstick. Personally, even though I do understand the cultural context for Jack Neo's skits, I still find them rather low brow and crude. I do not find them funny at all. Please watch of the skit below if you are Singaporean and tell me if you genuinely find this type of comedy funny:
Staying with my army unit, even amongst the Singaporean-Chinese soldiers, we didn't all get along with each other. Hell no. The regulars didn't like the NSF, there was this tension between those from polys and those from JCs, the Mandarin and Hokkien soldiers didn't really speak to those who were English speaking. there was a huge gulf between the jiat-kentang guys who listened to British and American pop music and the jiat-png guys who listened to Mandopop and Cantopop. Those who were from rich families looked down on those from humble HDB backgrounds, need I go on? Were we one big happy family? Hardly. We were just a bunch of Singaporean guys who were rather randomly thrown together in this unit and forced to work together for a predetermined amount of time. At best, we tolerated each other and at worst, people fought and argued. The racist joke on the birthday card was just the tip of the iceberg, there was so much shit that went on behind the scenes - perhaps it was particularly bad in my unit, perhaps many of you have experienced the same thing. Do let me know in the comments section below please.

You may say, oh that's just NS, that's the army, it's different in the civilian world. I wasn't sure, so I decided to speak to my an old friend from VJC about this: let's call her Vanessa. After VJC, she studied at NUS and has worked all her life in Singapore. She works for a very Singaporean company and has a very Singaporean boss. All her colleagues are Singaporean and you couldn't find a more Singaporean environment to work in. I showed Vanessa 小白's quote and asked her for her reaction. So how is Vanessa finding it in Singapore then? Please allow me to quote her reply:
Vanessa works in Singapore.

"Alamak your reader is seriously deluded, he is suffering from 'the grass is greener on the other side of the fence' syndrome. By all means, if he wants to come back to Singapore and work because he feels at home here and misses his family and old friends, then by all means do so. But all this talk about the boss offering favour to those from a similar cultural background? Dream on. What total bullshit. In my company practically everyone is Singaporean and there are two Malaysians, the boss is Chinese-Singaporean and Hokkien; but if I expected some kind of special treatment just because I am Chinese-Singaporean and Hokkien as well, then he would tell me to go fly a kite. No, instead I am expected to do my job and earn my keep - I have to prove my worth to the company, I have to deliver on my projects and I have to show that I am worthy of that next promotion. There are plenty of mean Singaporean bosses out there who don't give a shit if you grew up on the same street as them or went to the same school - what were you expecting? Come on lah, this guy seriously needs a reality check.

There is so much office politics in the Singaporean company where I work. People would stab you in the back if it would mean some kind of personal gain to them, it is so competitive. You don't know whom you can trust and there are a bunch of people who go out of their way to sa-ka (suck up to) the boss. To be fair, this kind of office politics would happen in any country in the world, that's just the way it is when you are in a competitive environment. Tell your reader not to expect to get along with everyone in a Singaporean company because there will be evil Singaporean colleagues who would gladly stab him in the back and the fact that they can share a crude army shock with him means absolutely nothing in the real business world. Seriously, has he ever heard of the saying, "公事公办"? Do what you want in your free time away from the office, choose the friends you wish to socialize with but when you are at work on company time, you do not mess around by allowing your personal sentiments or private interests to get in the way of doing your job professionally. And if your job involves you working with Danish people, then you jolly well suck it up and do what you have to bloody well do to get along with them Danes during office hours! You can be as Singaporean as you like when you leave the office. 公事公办, there is no time or space for all this sentimentality at work.
Is the grass greener in Singapore?

Is your reader going to find the cultural context of a Singaporean company familiar? Maybe - that would depend on how long he has been away from Singapore, certainly a Danish work environment would be extremely different from a Singaporean one. Would he face a shock to the system when he returns? Perhaps - but there will at least be a period of transition where he would struggle initially to adapt to life back in Singapore. But let's get real here: he faces a different kind of challenge in Singapore. He is just another middle-aged Singapore executive in the rat race, it is a highly competitive environment and being in a management meeting with a room full of other Singaporeans isn't going to make his work any easier. If he is just like everyone else, he risks blending into the background and be a part of the wallpaper here. If he is under the impression that in Singaporean companies we are all happily joking away in Hokkien and Singlish whilst snacking on curry puffs, popiah and keuh lapis, then he is seriously seeing Singapore through rose tinted lenses. I would love to invite him to one of the meetings in my office to give him a bloody rude shock to the system and see how caustic the environment can be in a Singaporean office."

I would like to end with another personal story involving my father. So it may be hard to get along with someone from another country if there is a linguistic and cultural barrier? How about someone from the same country then? Vanessa is not convinced it is any easier. How about someone from the same family then? Siblings share so much in common: they have the same parents, they grew up together speaking the same language in the same environment, they spent years living under the same roof. Surely we must all get along with our siblings by that token, right? No. My father has a younger brother he has not spoken to in years. They fell out in a big way back in 1990 and I remember the big confrontation they had when I thought they were going to physically assault each other. I shall spare you the details (it's an incredibly long story for another day) but it suffices to say that they have not spoken since 1990 and my father didn't even bother attending his younger brother's funeral. That's how much he hated his younger brother - even has his younger brother lay dying in a hospital in Johor Bahru, my father didn't even want to make the trip to JB to see his brother one last time despite his sister (my aunt) begging him to do so. I hope I never fall out with my sisters like that.
Can you get along with all your family?

The moral of the story? You may not get along with people from your own country, you may not get along with people from your own community, you may not even get along with people in your own family. There is no guarantee that you will get along with fellow Singaporeans just because you are from the same country. So rather than blame cultural barriers holding you back in your career, perhaps it would be far more productive to look for areas where your career can progress by working with the right people. Please do let me know your thoughts on the issue. Thanks for reading.

20 comments:

  1. My BMT company was unique in the sense that it was a huge mix of people from all economic classes and educational backgrounds. We had a few rich kids who had came back from UK or US with degrees and at the other end we had hokkien pengs O'levels holders.

    Most of the rich kids and degree holders soon formed their own cliques as did the hokkien pengs. But the company specs made sure to mix all these people together to ensure there is teamwork in the platoon and company.

    In the end one of the hokkien peng made it to SISPEC because he got company best shot.

    So I should that in a corporate Singapore environment that language and culture are not as important as performance. But I've been working in mostly MNCs so race and nationality are not important.

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    1. In my unit, we did learn (most of the time) to work together regardless of our different backgrounds as there was really no other option: this was NS. But once the job was done, did working together make us form any more than a superficial working relationship? Did it transform into something more profound like a genuine friendship? No. It did not.

      I know I have told this story before on my blog at some stage but I will say it again. I remember a few days after my ORD, I ran into one such Hokkien pengs at Boat Quay - his name is 'Yong' and he spotted me and said hi. I shook his hand and exchanged pleasantries, he made a joke about me enjoying life as a civilian after my ORD and I reminded him that he will ORD soon. Then we ran out of things to say and I made the excuse that I was running late, I was meeting a friend at the McDonald's and he pointed out to me where the McDonald's was and I said thanks, I'll speak to you soon and ran off. But of course, we had not exchanged contact details (email/phone number/etc - no Facebook in those days) so unless it was going to be another chance encounter walking down the street like that, no I was never gonna see him again and sure enough, I never have and I probably wouldn't even recognize him walking down the street today since it has been so many years and we would have both changed in appearance.

      But such is the situation with NS: Yes I formed a working relationship with Yong as we were in the same unit but did we become friends after all this time working together? No. We were just too different and I realized, if not for NS, we simply had that little in common that we would have never ever become friends in the civilian world. So if (hypothetically speaking), Yong and I ended up working in the same company today, I wouldn't expect the fact that we did NS together to give us any more reason to favour each other in the work place. Get real. Just remember the awkward way I ran away into McDonald's to get away from Yong...

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  2. I hear that comment about the "glass ceiling" a lot. It depends on the people you encounter in the country, whether you take to each other as people regardless of culture or ethnicity, and not everyone will experience the same thing. For example, a Singaporean friend of mine who has been in Sydney, Australia, for over 5 years, and is going to get his citizenship over there, soon told me about another Singaporean (an engineer) who immigrated to Sydney way before him. The two of them simply could not get along whatsoever, with that engineer always claiming my friend to be an unrealistic idealist and picking on his artistic tendencies too, not forgetting that the engineer spoke Singlish regardless of the environment in Australia, which alienated him from his colleagues. The funny thing was, according to my friend, that acquaintance whom he seriously could not stand wanted to get back to Singapore eventually after having saved enough, and then, claims that he can get his Aussie citizenship and 'downgrade' his Singapore citizenship to a PR??!!! All these being said even after my friend pointed out to him that it is simply not possible to 'downgrade' citizenships....It might have to do with the Singaporean fob (fresh off the boat) mindset in which they expect others to accommodate them rather than the other way round.

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    1. Hi Kev, I have heard people play the glass ceiling card a lot - women, gays, disabled people, working class people - anyone who is slightly different has reached for that card before: it is a way to say, "I'm not reaching the top and reaching my potential because someone is discriminating against me". Some people have a valid reason to play that card, others merely play that card to deflect blame from their own inadequacies. Now I don't know enough about Xiaobai's situation to try to ascertain what the case is when it comes to his employment in Denmark, but the fact that he has already played that card means that he is saying, "I've done everything I can and can do no more, but there are racist people who are discriminating against me and I can't help being Asian." Really? As a fellow Asian in Angmohland, I find that hard to believe, sorry.

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    2. If there is racism to begin with, he would not even have gotten into the company at all. That is as clear as it in certain countries like Australia or New Zealand with a Chinese-sounding name, because people assume straightaway that you either cannot speak English (or are not good enough in it whatsoever) or are a new immigrant with little local experience so to say. But since he got into the company abroad, then by right he is not subject to the 'racism card' since he was selected by the company to work for them regardless of nationality and external origins. A lot of Singaporeans have a common way of saying that the grass is greener on the other side, but they forgot the second half of the saying that "until you have lived there and tasted of it, you will not know if it is for you." It is alright if the place or foreign country is not for him, and he does not feel happy there, but surely there is no need to romanticize Singapore?

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    3. Have a read of my reply to John A's comment below - I think that my reader has neglected the fact that he lacks a viable network of professional contacts with peers within his industry to successfully transplant himself back into his industry in Singapore and that he has grossly underestimated just how hard this process would be. He is under the impression that people are just gonna welcome him with open arms in Singapura just because he holds a pink IC. It doesn't work like that.

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    4. I do not know about the Danish job market or the job opportunities in other European markets, but that said, in relation to what you had said about 'connections', there is a small number of people(Singaporeans included) who use it to ascend the social ladder. For example, a friend of mine in Sydney, Australia, only got his job after a prolonged period of unemployment(a year and a half) by a sexual fling with someone. That is his interpretation of 'guanxi' so to say, and while I doubt that I am the kind of person to sleep around to get a job, and believe in getting it via my own ways or recommendation by someone, I guess that to each his own.

      Singapore's job market is arguably very closed compared to a lot of other markets, and yes, connections and links to people who can help you get a foothold in are important to a certain extent other than abilities or experience.

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    5. Hmmm. Let's put it this way, I don't want to put 'guanxi' in a bad light - perhaps because it is a Chinese word, we are getting impressions of corrupt communist officials in China bending the rules for their friends and family. It is less corrupt than that in Singapore. Let me give you an example.

      When my sister wanted to change jobs some years back, she came to learn about a new opportunity opening up via a friend before it was even advertised and her friend said to my sis, "gimme your CV so I can shove it in front of the head of HR before they even start recruiting." My sister then went through the whole formal process of applying and yes they did go through the formal procedures of advertising for the position, seeing a range of credible candidates and my sister was up against some very tough candidates indeed. However, what clinched it for her was because she had been in her industry so long that the head of HR knew some of the people whom my sister head worked with, so she was able to say, "oh look, she worked at ABC company from 2001 to 2006 and I know someone who was a director there in those days, and she then worked at XYZ company from 2007 to 2012 and I also know a director who worked there". The head of HR was then able to pick up the phone and make a few calls to those directors and get an honest reference for my sister - that was what clinched the job for my sister because her former directors gave her a glowing reference.

      In the case of Xiaobai, sure the head of HR could picked up the phone or Skype his former directors in Denmark and they may give him a glowing reference as to how great he was in Denmark. But therein lies the difference, there is no way in hell that the head of HR in Singapore would have any kind of connection (personal or professional) with the directors in Denmark whilst s/he would have an existing relationship (personal & professional) with someone in a similar position in the same industry within Singapore.

      Given the choice between accepting a reference from a complete stranger and a reference from an old friend you totally trust, what do you think the HR manager in Singapore is gonna go for? That was what allowed my sister to get the job at the end of the day. This is another issue that Xiaobai is going to face when transplanting himself back to Singapore.

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    6. I have to agree with Kevin on his friend on Australia on "GuanXi" and this is mostly true for female employees where they received an offer which will not be achieve with just hard work from the boss of the company as long as they sell away their dignity.

      This culture where the male boss will offer higher perks, salary or promotion towards female employees.

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    7. I do not think very well of the idea of selling away your 'dignity' in order to get a job or money. That friend was even on the verge of selling himself as a rentboy (a gay hustler) other than sleeping around, so as to get money, and admitted that he refrained from doing so because his "heart was not in it". I just said that if he even did that to begin with, he will never get out even when he gets a job later. There are better ways to get a job, even if it takes time.

      Connections are inherently neutral as a term or category, and depending on how you define them or interpret them as a person, so the issue lies with the person. I guess that for some, it is basically corruption, such as using family relations to get one's foot in but ousting others out or being at the expense of others, such as in politics when nepotism is at play, or it can simply be a case of just sex for grades or sex for a job. But of course, it is not that way across the board in different cultures, and I think that it is slightly better in the west, at least from the way I noticed it in Canada.

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    8. Well the whole concept of connections or guanxi or pull strings (call it what you want) may not be as corrupt as you think. It does encompass a wide range of situations. For instance, a reference from someone you know personally means a lot more than a reference from a complete stranger. That's a form of "guanxi" that doesn't involve any kind of corruption at all. Offering sexual favours, of course, is the other extreme.

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    9. Yes, in academia, the weight of your references, namely from your adviser, means a lot, because they reflect on your research and teaching. That is one way of playing on 'connections', and relatively innocent. Of course, sexual favors or sleeping around in the name of 'connections' is the other extreme. Different people understand the term differently, as I would say, but to each his or her own. I just think that people who end up on the other extreme are kind of pitiful in a certain way......but that is just my way of looking at it, and well, who am I to say that they are not happy doing it?

      This reminds me of an incident that happened in my 2nd year of undergraduate studies, when an English literature professor (in nineteenth-century literature) told us, her students, about a recent death of a faculty member in the affiliated (but different) English communications--as in, writing for academic purposes--center who died, and whose funeral they were called to as arts faculty members. What the professor did not tell us, but was disseminated amongst various undergraduate friends and acquaintances, was that the particular faculty member who died had offered this 'sex-for-grades' thing with one of his students, and allegedly, the 'sugar-daddy' relationship did not work out but ended up in the faculty member's death by his student via homicide. Rumor or not, it was pretty obvious that the faculty member or instructor was exploiting this 'guanxi' factor for his own benefit (or demise, depending on how you read it).

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  3. Since no one is exactly the same, everyone can always find something to feel victimized and discriminated about, real or imagined. Now, it could very well be the case that your reader is indeed facing a glass ceiling due to his race in his company, but then the correct response to that would be to look for another employment opportunity, rather than to automatically assume things will be better in Singapore. In my experience in the UK, inhabitants in first world nations tend to be more welcoming/ less judgemental as long as you are willing to integrate, at least among the more educated. Racism is seen as a serious no-no, even if it isn't actually racism, and might actually be justified; people are incredibly afraid of being called racist.

    In fact in Singapore, you might actually be discriminated against for NS liabilities, you might have foreign bosses who might prefer their own kind etc. Nowhere is perfect, and it is up to you to achieve your own success, in spite of whatever discrimination you might find. I would argue that in a first world country like Denmark, you would be more able to achieve success.

    Now of course, if you prefer Singapore's low tax regime, then that can be a serious draw, but don't assume that you won't find other sort of discrimination there as well...

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    1. Hello John and thanks for your message. It seems that this reader intends to work in Denmark until he is too old to serve any kind of SAF reservist activities, so he would be able to 'siam' reservist obligations altogether; but then, if he does still intend to eventually return to Singapore, that poses yet another problem for him.

      I did work briefly in Singapore for 6 months in 2011 and that was the only time I had worked in Singapore since my ORD in 1997. I found that I had to reach out to old classmates and friends whom I have not been in regular contact with to try to ask them for help as I was so freaking lost - I had no contacts, I had no network of professional peers, I was a fish out of water despite the fact that I was in a familiar environment. Oh the irony.

      What I had noticed was that amongst the professionals in Singapore in my industry, there was a lot of networking going on - it's like if I mention that I had have a chat with this guy from this company and people would make remarks like, "oh yes, my deputy used to work with him back when he was in this other company." The financial services industry is actually fairly close-knit and thus this kind of professional networking is of paramount importance. So if you were applying for a job, a reference would be extremely importance because if your prospective boss knows someone you have worked with or worked under, they could say, "hey you know John when he worked at your company, could I ask you what he was like at work? Could I get an honest evaluation off the record? Like an informal chat?"

      Believe you me, I was immensely lucky that I managed to hold on to some relationships with old JC classmates who did make it into the financial services industry and they opened so many doors for me in Singapore; but it did show me how vital it was in a place like Singapore. In Mandarin we call that 'guanxi' - in Singlish "pull string".

      With my reader working in Denmark for so many years until he turns 40, then the number of strings he has to pull in Singapore are negligible, non-existent. Sorry but that's a fact. The fact that he is Singaporean-Chinese or Hokkien would mean nothing, the fact that he went to the same school as someone is fairly meaningless - what he really needs to successfully transplant himself back into Singapore is a good network of professional 'guanxi' contacts to enable him to 'pull strings' as much as possible, just to get his foot in the door.

      This network of 'guanxi' contacts to pull strings is established through years of working with people, getting to know people, earning their trust and nurturing real friendships. And if he thinks that people are going to have a notion of kinship or guanxi with him just because he announces that he is Singaporean-Chinese, then he is grossly misjudging the situation and he clearly does not understand how the business environment in Singapore works.

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    2. Oh and if I may qualify and explain something else with regards to my time in Singapore in 2011. I was working for a European company (NOT a Singaporean company) and I was their sales manager in the Asian market, trying to sell our products to companies in SE Asia. I was hard enough to use my limited connections to even get an opportunity to sit down with prospective clients (which were big Singaporean financial institutions, local Asian banks, local intermediaries and brokers) to try to get them to even listen to our sales pitch.

      Now my reader not only wants to return to Singapore, he wants to work in a Singaporean company and become top dog in a Singaporean company WITHOUT having worked many years in Singapore and building up a great network of guanxi to pull strings. Having had a taste of approaching the Singaporean market from outside, I say, that's mission impossible.

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  4. Hi, Nice site thanks for sharing. Would it be okay to contact you through your email? Please email me back.
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    1. LOL, this sounds sooooo dodgy, like a spam email. Listen Randy, if someone emailed you out of the blue and asked you to get back in touch like that without giving any information about what the hell it is about, would you respond? Like for real?

      Listen, ask whatever you wanna ask via the comments section here but there's no way I am gonna email you.

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  5. All I read from you says: "my personal experience is different from yours and therefore I think you are wrong". The same sentence applies to your VJC friend as well.

    The funny thing is you agree that there may indeed be people who are racists. But somehow you come to the conclusion that your reader was playing the glass ceiling card "unfairly" despite not knowing anything about the boss, the company nor himself. The lack of benefit of doubt is strange and I wonder why you would prefer to look at him in a more negative light given the lack of facts that you have in your grasp.

    Listen to yourself: "Now my reader not only wants to return to Singapore, he wants to work in a Singaporean company and become top dog in a Singaporean company WITHOUT having worked many years in Singapore and building up a great network of guanxi to pull strings. Having had a taste of approaching the Singaporean market from outside, I say, that's mission impossible."

    Where did he say that he DOES NOT have a great network to pull strings in Singapore? Maybe he has, maybe he doesn't, but aren't you jumping to conclusion much? Sounds like you already dislike him and starts to fill in the blanks yourself.

    You say you agree to disagree, I humbly subject to you that you are actually belittling him for his own experience. Granted that he may have exaggerated his "racist" experience. But seriously all your criticism of him is totally uncalled for.

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    1. Well Powell, let me make some points.

      1. I did say that if he has indeed hit a glass ceiling in his current company, the sensible thing to do would be to look to move to another company where there wouldn't be a glass ceiling - instead, he makes the assumption that any Angmoh boss is always going to treat him differently and that he is better off in Singapore. It is his logic and reasoning that I am disputing because there are different kinds of companies to work for. Some are more international in nature and some are more insular in nature and my simple point is to seek a work environment that suits you best, rather than fall into this "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" argument. I've worked for company where I have left for one reason or another - we all have, changing jobs to go to a better company is something we all do from time to time.

      2. He has made it clear that he has worked in Denmark for a while and that he intends to continue working there because he wants to avoid NS reservist duties. That means spending some of the most productive years in his 20s and 30s in Denmark instead of Singapore. That is exactly what I have done - I'm 38 and have spent all of my working life in Europe (apart from a short stint in Singapore) and unless his Danish company does a lot of business with Singaporean clients, it is virtually impossible to build up that network of professional contacts or "gunaxi" in Singapore without actually being physically in Singapore and actively involved in the industry in Singapore. I am here in London and I do keep in touch with my old friends in Singapore via Facebook - but that's a far cry from actively being in Singapore to build up and nurture a useful network of professional contacts. With me being 8 time zones away from Singapore, I only drift further and further away from my old school and army mates year after year. I know from personal experience how it is hard to maintain contacts with old friends from Singapore as I am so busy with my local contacts: people whom I see face to face here in London take up far more of my time and are my priority.

      Furthermore, we are talking about building up relationships and earning trust by working alongside people in Singapore, successfully delivering contracts, impressing people with hard concrete proof of your talent and ability - you can only do that when you are in Singapore standing face to face with the person in front of you, nurturing and developing that working relationship. You can't do that from another continent. So YES in your face, I can assume very accurately that he does NOT have a great network in Singapore to pull strings if he has spent that much time in Denmark. If he really wants to relocate back to Singapore, then I'm not saying that it is impossible but he is going to find it a lot harder than he thinks.

      And if he thinks that I am wrong in any of my evaluations, hey - he is a well educated professional working in Denmark as a highly skilled migrant, I am sure he can speak for himself if he wishes to. He doesn't need anyone to try to argue on his behalf.

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    2. Let me share with you something that happened last week okay? I have been working as an external contractor for this company since 2009 and at the end of last year, one member of staff left the company and they asked me if I could suggest anyone who was interested in the position. I suggested my friend Adam and he had his interview last week. I wasn't present at the interview but I messaged Adam to ask him how it went. And his reply was, "the bosses spoke very highly of you and have been very impressed with you over the years, they are hoping for someone just like you and you've given me a very hard act to follow." I laughed and said that if the bosses were that happy with me, then I should increase my rates as I am not charging them enough as a contractor.

      You see, it is only after I have worked as a contractor for this company for over 5 years that they are willing to say such nice things about me - that is the kind of guanxi, the kind of network of professional contacts to pull strings. I have proven myself the hard way with this company so if they offer a glowing review of my abilities, then it means something. That is how you earn the trust of someone, by working with them or for them for many years. There is really no other way to earn that kind of trust that actually means something.

      Let's turn back to my old JC friend Vanessa. If you came to me and said to me, "hey Alex, you know Vanessa right? She has applied for a job at my company, what is she really like in person?" What I can tell you is probably very limited - I could recall some fond memories of what she was like in VJC back in the period 1993-1994 but apart from that, any of the more recent stuff would be gleamed from her Facebook Timeline and what she chooses to share with her friends on Facebook - which is mostly social stuff. So I know where she went on holiday, I know how she celebrates birthdays and Christmas, I know what social issues winds her up on Facebook but how much do I know about her performance at work? I know practically nothing. I'm sure she shows off the good stuff (like when she goes on nice business trips and stays in nice hotels) but she would not share the ugly stuff (like if she gets a scolding from the boss...)

      Likewise, Xiaobai's old friends in Singapore probably know as little about his professional abilities as I do about my friend Vanessa. They would probably welcome him home with open arms and take him out for a meal when he visits Singapore, but would they be in a position to provide any kind of credible reference for his professional abilities if he has been away from Singapore in Denmark for so many years? Clearly not.

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