In any company, there's usually one person who will look at CVs of prospective candidates who apply for a job - if it is a small company it is usually the boss himself or herself but in big companies, they will always have a HR department to deal with this. However, in medium sized companies, sometimes there's a designated person who will be given the task of looking at the CVs, chatting with the candidate when they arrive for an interview and maybe even conducting some of the skill testing involved in the selection process. Note that this designated gatekeeper will be doing a full time job already within the company and will only be asked to take on this additional role when the company is hiring new staff. I stress that the gatekeeper is not the decision maker at the end of the day, but is nonetheless influential in the decision making process. If the big boss is unsure or not convinced about a candidate, the gatekeeper's opinion will often then be the deciding factor. Thus this is a process often associated with medium sized companies.
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| Do you know how to get by the gatekeeper? |
So yes, this is a role I have stepped in to play from time to time over the years and there are a few things that instantly either give me a good impression or a bad impression. Sometimes, the impression is so good that I remember once running up to the boss saying, "OMG, you have to give this guy a job, I want this guy on my team, he is amazing, you will adore him!" Yeah, not all gatekeepers are bastards you know, we can actually give favourable recommendations if we do see a spark of brilliance in the candidate. But today, I'm going to deal with the opposite.
I think the biggest turn off is a poor command of English - perhaps I'm especially mean to British people here, but I'm like, look I'm from Singapore, I'm of Chinese ethnic origin (well, mostly, technically speaking I am mixed) and if I can speak English properly, your English had better be perfect as you're a white English person from England who grew up in England. I am usually a bit more forgiving if it is say a Russian or German person making a mistake in English, but if an English person makes a mistake in English - oh that's it, my impression of you is ruined. I get particularly peeved when I hear people make mistakes like "you was" - it tells me a lot about a person's education and upbringing when they make mistakes like that and it's the kind of thing that will leave a particularly bad impression during an interview.
A mistake to avoid is to try to make an effort but not go all the way - I'm talking about people who make a halfhearted effort to dress up for the interview. I am appalled when I see someone turn up in a suit jacket that does not match the trousers or wearing trainers to the interview. Trainers. Like seriously. What were you thinking? You think I wouldn't notice those trainers just because you also wore a shirt and tie? It's stupid little things like that which sends out the message, "I can't be bothered" to the gatekeeper and I already know that one of my readers Huichun is going to say that the gatekeeper shouldn't judge a candidate by his shoes. However, if you really need/want that job, is that a chance you're prepared to take or would you rather play it safe and wear the right kind of shoes to the interview?
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Let me give you another example: one candidate had obviously bought a new tie for the interview. How did I know it was a new tie? The price tag was still on it. Cue face to palm. He clearly didn't check. I didn't say anything but it left me with a very poor impression of him - it was clearly a lack of attention to detail. If he couldn't even remove the price tag from his new tie, how was I going to trust him with an important document for a major client? Would he check his work before presenting it to the client? So you see, it's stupid shit like that which will work against you during an interview and if there's a lot of competition, you really don't want to miss out on the job because of something like that.
Oh and I get really quite upset with candidates who do not say sorry or thanks when they really need to - let me give you an example. I had a candidate phone me up at the last minute before an interview and asked if he could reschedule it because he couldn't make it to the office that afternoon - so I said fine, rescheduled everything for him and then realized, he didn't apologize for the inconvenience caused or thank me for my help. He just took it for granted that I was happy to help (it was my job, but that's not the point) - a simple, "sorry about this, thanks for your help" would have sufficed, but no, he said neither the words 'sorry' or 'thanks' - which immediately left me with a very bad impression. Like what did he think I was, an office manager or a secretary? For crying out aloud, it costs you nothing to use those nice words and you could end up paying a big price for not using those words by pissing off the gatekeeper. I don't want to work next to a rude c*** who can't even be asked to say thanks or sorry when necessary!
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| It costs nothing to use these words... |
Perhaps it is a cultural thing - but in the UK, I tend to deal with candidates who are too relaxed, too informal and probably not taking the whole process seriously enough. I think that it is important to be very confident when going for job interviews, but at the same time, you must show the interviewer that you are enthusiastic, excited and interested rather than slip into a kind of casual behaviour that may be fine with friends on a Saturday afternoon, but not during a job interview with a gatekeeper. It is important to retain a certain level of formality especially if it is someone you are meeting for the very first time. I have hardly had any candidates who were nervous over the years - which amazes me, but perhaps that's a cultural thing. Or perhaps Europeans are better at hiding their nervousness.
So for example, I always turn the tables and ask the candidate at the end of the interview, "do you have any questions for me now?" A good candidate will always ask some quite intelligent questions at that point. A poor candidate would usually just say, "no, I don't have any questions." That's a pitfall you should avoid, not having any questions gives the impression that you're not that interested in the job or the outcome of the interview. Even a simple question like, "What is the next step in the interview process?", "Are you seeing many candidates for this job?" or "When will you let me know your decision?" is better than saying, "no, I have no questions."
Another mistake that some candidates make is that they talk too much about themselves - look, I'm not here to look for a new boyfriend or girlfriend, I'm not that interested in you as a person. I'm interested in what you could do for the company and how suitable you are for the role - so even if the gatekeeper asks you a question about your education or experience, always relate it back to the position you are applying for rather than just start rattling off long stories that I am just not interested in. You'll be amazed how many people make that mistake and I'll always interrupt them mid-sentence, to deny them the pleasure of finishing their stories in a less than subtle way to hint to them, "I am really not interested in what you're saying. I couldn't be less interested if I tried, so kindly shut up."
I've not mentioned CVs yet and the CVs that piss me off are those that ramble on for pages and pages - for crying out aloud, I'm not freaking interested in every minute detail. Just sum it up for me in two pages and I'll figure out what I need to know during the interview. A gatekeeper usually forms a first impression of the CV within the first 30 seconds or less by reading the first page, so for goodness' sake, put the best highlights of your career on the first page right at the top and tell me why you're the best - don't bore me with boring shit about your education which I really don't give a shit about. Sometimes I just wanna grab a red pen and circle the most mundane parts of their CVs and write the words, "WHAT MAKES YOU THINK ANYONE WOULD BE INTERESTED ABOUT THIS MUNDANE SHIT!" Seriously, if it's not impressive or interesting, leave it out - always keep your CV free of boring crap.
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Also, if you're writing a covering letter/email, please keep it brief and to the point. Don't try to tell me why you're so suitable for the job in the email - that's not going to sway my decision. I have actually had candidates who have written me very long emails arguing their case, telling me why they are so perfect for the job - on email!?! It's unreal. That's not how it works, if you've got an impressive CV, then you'll be invited in for an interview - nobody's going to real your bloody long email and give you a job on that basis. Pleading on email just comes across as desperate - never do it!
And lastly, when a candidate is rejected, it is often the gatekeeper who has the job of informing the candidate. We would do so formally in a fairly standard manner like so:
"Dear Ben,
Hello. Thank you for coming to see us last week, it was a pleasure to meet you. I'm sorry to inform you that the position you have applied for has already been filled. We wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
With kind regards,
Alex"
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| Do you know how important gatekeepers are? |
You'll be amazed how few people actually reply to that email to ask for feedback - look, you may not get it, the gatekeeper is not obliged to tell you why you were rejected. Perhaps you were great but there was just someone else better - or maybe you really did do something really stupid to jeopardize your chances and gatekeeper may be doing you a big favour by telling you where you went wrong. Always ask for feedback so you may at least learn from your mistakes. If there's some constructive advice I can give, I would always volunteer that information.
So that's it from me on this issue, I hope you've found it useful. Always try to get the gatekeeper on your side. If you have any other questions on the issue, please leave me a comment below. Thank you very much for reading!







I am always appalled by the poor English written by people whose heritage is English. It is a real turn off.
ReplyDeleteTotally, I agree! That extends to poor English spoken by English people as well, not just written.
DeleteGreat pointers! But I find that what you've summarised/mentioned only works when dealing with job interviews in the UK. It is a whole different ball game in Singapore. During my job hunt three years ago in Singers, I found that I could not appear too confident or vocal if I was dealing with a local gatekeeper. Plus they do not like firm handshakes and direct eye contact. On top of that, they tend to rule out candidates that ask too many questions. What irked me the most was their insistence on asking about my previous and desired salary. C'mon! I used to give the excuse "I have just recently returned to SG after having lived abroad for ten years and I am unfamiliar with current salary ranges/expectations here. Hope you understand that I do want to ensure I attain fair remuneration based on my extensive experience. But I would like to state I am open to negotiation". I am a freelancer now - just can't deal with the office culture here especially the expectation of working late when there's absolutely no need too. I have a life outside the office you know!
ReplyDeleteI suppose for my S'porean readers, this is an opportunity to see what the process is like in Angmohland - where things are somewhat different and realize that what happens in Singapore is not replicated worldwide. Mind you, I've never applied for a job in Singapore - so I have not been through what you've been through. I've worked in Singapore both during NS (different ball game) and when I got a transfer within the same company to Singapore in 2011 (whilst still working for Angmohs) but never dealt with a S'porean gatekeeper myself. Although I suppose some of my perspective on the issue is shaped by the fact that I am from S'pore originally...
DeleteLike you, I am a freelancer now. That's another story for another day.
Oh yah - just wanted to add that SG local employers also LOVVEEEE super long CVs showing everything you have ever done. And they NEVER give you feedback even if you asked or even a 'thank you' note for coming to an interview.
ReplyDeleteReally?! Like I said, big cultural differences between East & West. I don't understand WHY they want to know every single detail...
DeleteAs for giving feedback or sending 'thank you' note - that's just being polite methinks.
You wouldn't enjoy working for that boss even if the company offers you that job. So it's a get out of jail free card for you.
DeleteYou mention that you hardly met nervous candidates, but if you see one would the candidate's nervousness leave a bad impression on you? Especially if the person is so nervous that he stutters
ReplyDeleteYou know, I can understand nervous candidates as I think that's a most basic human response. But within reason, in some instances, the candidate start out nervous for the first 5 to 10 minutes then they relax a bit after that and get over their nervousness. Few candidates ever remain nervous throughout the entire interview.
DeleteThe Aussie who stuttered was not nervous - he was waaaaay too casual and relaxed and he wasn't even aware of just how he was going 'erm...' all the time. A bit of nervousness is a good thing because it keeps you on your toes, when you're too relaxed, you make silly mistakes.
Pfeh bollocks, I absolutely think you should exercise your gatekeeper function if someone shows up for an interview improperly dressed without extenuating circumstances. If nothing else, it shows they haven't done the homework to, minimally, determine what dress is expected at work. Even if I've interviewed in khakis and a shirt, it's been on the understanding that I was coming in from the airport after being on vacation.
ReplyDeleteYour advice is fine for US/UK; for Singapore, depends on where you interview. My advice for resumes used to be 1 page for every 5 years of working experience. Still worked for me in Singapore, but the more hidebound places expect every bloody thing under the sun you've ever done including the kitchen sink you built for ECA.
A few points for you:
Delete1. The question was about what my personal experiences were - it was never about "what would you advice your readers in SINGAPORE to do with regards to gatekeepers?" So please understand what question I was actually answering before you claim that what I wrote is not applicable to Singapore - all I did was share some anecdotes from my personal experiences.
2. How important is dressing right? I think it depends - if someone has a very strong CV and has all the right work experience, then dressing inappropriately isn't going to destroy his quest for a job. We'll be mad/foolish/stupid as a company to reject a strong candidate like that over something like his attire during the interview. But if someone is a borderline case and competition is fierce (like what if I receive 10 great CVs when I only have one job on offer?) - then you don't want to take your chances and possibly do something that can jeopardize your chances even a little. It's just not worth it.
I get the impression that Huichun is trying to tell us all, "I'm so fucking brilliant that I can show up in slippers and singlet, pick my nose in front of the CEO and they will still want me." Yes I get the idea, you are fucking brilliant at what you do, I hear you loud and clear. I'm not talking about you - I'm talking about when I handled the interviews for more junior positions. It's a different ball game when you're talking about people who have attained a certain level in their career.
3. CVs need to be tailor-made for the job. I had an hour long chat with someone who is keen to use me for a new project but he is very interested in one particular section of my skillset so a lot of what I know/have done etc is completely irrelevant. He's asked me for my CV for his company's HR dept to process and I am going to completely re-edit my CV to send him one which specifically highlights the areas of work experience/education/training which are directly relevant to the contract at hand and as for the irrelevant stuff, I'm going to delete it. What's the point?
You do jump to conclusions.
DeleteWith regard to the khakis, I was referencing a previous comment I made about the need for dress sense and appropriate dressing. As for being fucking brilliant. Hardly.
I don't see the substance of my comment as very different from what Linda had said above. Your advice is fine for the US and UK, and it is applicable to some places in Singapore. But not the hidebound ones.
I think there's a difference between talking about one's personal experience and telling people what they should do - sometimes they can converge, sometimes they won't. In this case, I was asked a question about my experiences on the issue: how relevant this can be to my readers in Singapore does not form the basis of my reply.
DeleteWith regards to you, I get the sense that you put the onus on the gatekeeper to be 'nice' or 'rational' or not judge a candidate by his shoes etc, I get the feeling you're preaching the mantra "don't be so shallow, don't judge people by their appearances."
Allow me to share with you a different perspective from my bicycle - even when I have the right of way, I always cycle very cautiously: especially when it comes to pedestrians, they just don't see bikes. Now I don't want to get into a collision with a pedestrian just to prove my point but you'll be amazed how many people just walk into my way without even looking - and so I err on the side of caution, I sound my bell, I shout to them 'excuse me' or 'look out', I slow down just in case and I even give way when I don't really need to but I do so anyway just to be on the safe side and avoid an accident.
Why? Why should I give way to pedestrians even when I have the right of way? It's because I don't trust them. I don't trust them to respect my right of way. I am not prepared to take a chance and it's just not worth it to get into a collision with a pedestrian like that. I'd rather slow down and waste 10-20 seconds more on my journey than to risk an accident.
The same way I give way as a cautious cyclist, I say people should take the same approach to dressing up - it's not about "people shouldn't be shallow", it's about erring on the side of caution. Would I deliberately crash into a pedestrian just to prove a point that I have the right of way? Of course not (and neither would you). And by the same token, should someone dress badly for an interview, get rejected on the basis of their inappropriate attire - only to make the point that the gatekeeper was shallow? And what would one gain by making that point?
I dunno, I thought I was being pretty explicit when I said:
DeleteI absolutely think you should exercise your gatekeeper function if someone shows up for an interview improperly dressed without extenuating circumstances. If nothing else, it shows they haven't done the homework to, minimally, determine what dress is expected at work.
Like. I have no idea where you get this feeling that I'm being censorious from. There's a time and place to be "nice". Hiring someone who you may have to depend upon in future and whose competence might affect your bonus pool is a bit less likely to be one of those times.
And so. Er. Yeah. I repeat myself. You do jump to conclusions.
I'll just leave this here. Everything you mentioned in your post is covered and improvement points covered as well:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.manager-tools.com/podcast/career-tools?filter0=160
http://www.manager-tools.com/podcast/career-tools?filter0=165
how to even get interview in first place? my son is trying for internships but so few firm in SG seem offer them. hes got a few things against him.
ReplyDelete1. sim student, 2. first year only, 3.nth oustanding in cv/resume. 4.his holidays dun match with public U holidays.
but he already tried emailing some of the top 100 brands and quite a few banks from MAS website and linkedin. only replies he got is that they dun offer internships.
He doesnt wanna try SME's cos most of them offer less than $600 and most treat interns as cheap labour. some of his seniors had to wash cars and sweep the office.
what would you advise for interns? or what people look for in them?
OK Peter, I am not going to sayang-sayang your son and say don't worry blah blah blah.
DeleteI am going to try to be practical here. This is happening because he's at SIM, nothing's going to change because of the status of SIM. Gatekeepers do not allow SIM people pass the gates unless you give them a reason to do so - otherwise, it is time to do something outstanding in his free time/holidays.
I'm sorry to say this, but he really should not have been in SIM in the first place. You are already getting a sense of what it is like to have doors slammed shut in your face - do you want your son to face this for the rest of his life?
An option which is expensive is to cut your losses, pull him out of SIM right now and rethink his education options. I don't know what he is studying or what his ambitions are but clearly SIM is NOT getting him anywhere and quite frankly, I'm not surprised, It is a crap university. Sorry to be blunt, but it is not going to help him at all and I don't know why you agreed to send him to SIM in the first place when this is something you really should have anticipated as a parent.
If you insist on keeping him at SIM despite the fact that you have already had a taste of the kind of rejection SIM students get (remember, it's not going to get better - probably worse), then send him to somewhere like Cambodia during his holidays to volunteer for some charity so he can have something that stands out on his CV to show that he is able to cope with very challenging circumstances and handle real responsibilities - that would be far better than being treated as cheap labour to wash cars and sweep offices at the SMEs.
I'm sorry, but I have no simple solutions apart from pulling him out of SIM and cutting your losses - that would be the best option. The other option is a stint abroad as an alternative internship.
As for what people are looking for when selecting interns, sigh - please lah, you're asking such obvious questions that you already know the answers to. We want smart interns (ie. good university, NUS not SIM) and/or people who have other special qualities (ie. great record in sports, music, etc) - if you have neither, then I would be the first to shred your son's application. Sorry for being so blunt, but Limpeh would rather give you a dose of reality rather than give you sayang-sayang bullshit.
So, what's the problem? Like is your son distracted by computer games or something?
I think maybe he as adhd. I force him to sit down and study also no point. he stares at the book and gets about the same marks as if I let him be. so for o lvl a lvl and psle I let him be and he always manages to pass all his subjects. but even though he pass all his a lvl subjects cannot get into local university. so left is SIM.
Deleteif I can afford I sure send him to Oz to study and work after studying. but I can only barely afford SIM. he cant work with a lvl only.
but would most employers care about SIM degree, I see boss hiring foreigners from 3rd world university degrees.
would sending him to summer exchange or overseas excursions help. he has been saving up since NS for that. or is oversea volunteering better?
sad. hope it works out for him. dunt want him to stay in SG and suffer.
have you seen this, sg no.5.
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21599041-countries-where-politically-connected-businessmen-are-most-likely-prosper-planet
Well Peter, sounds like he is just not interested in what he is studying. Now with some kids, you can force them to study stuff they have zero interest in and they will 乖乖 study it no matter how miserable it makes them because it is in their nature to be 乖乖 and follow instructions regardless. With some other kids, no it's just not gonna happen, even if you force them to sit down and put the book in front of them, they will stare at the book but the brain just won't engage - which sounds like the case with your son. He has been bludgeoned through subjects that he has little or no interest in - that's my guess.
DeleteAt some stage, you're just going to have to admit, "okay, this is not gonna work, I can't force him to study stuff that's good for him or useful for him to find a job." It's important for you to sit down with him and determine what gets him passionate, what he is really interested in and then both agree on something that he will not have any problems in the motivation department. I know you're trying your best but it is time to change your strategy. You need to maximize your chances of success by betting on (ie. investing in) the career path that your son is most likely to succeed in - the one that he has real passion in.