Now there seems to be a uniform for your typical Singaporean male executives: dark formal trousers, long sleeved shirt with rolled up sleeves and glasses. Why is this look so prevalent - particularly the habit of rolling up one's sleeves? Allow me (as the fashion police) to bemoan this horrible habit. You only roll up your sleeves if you have a reason to, for example, to carry a sack of charcoal and you didn't want to get your sleeves dirty. Not wearing your shirt the way it was made to be worn indicates a certain unease in one's clothing, which seems to beg the question, "if you didn't want to cover your forearms, then why did you pick a long sleeved shirt in the first place? Why aren't you comfortable in the clothes you're wearing?" In any case, rolling up one's sleeves doesn't really make one's arms any cooler - it seems that this is a habit picked up in the army, where one often folded the sleeves of the SAF no. 4 uniform. If I may be blunt, the words "squares, nerds and geeks" comes to mind when one thinks of your typical Singaporean men.
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| Why do Singaporean men always roll up their sleeves? |
Well, I think Singaporean men are conditioned to dress in a fairly uniform manner - from a young age, they wear school uniforms then serve national service where they have to wear a military uniform. By the time they finish their national service, many of them have never really known what it means to express one's personality through fashion for that was never allowed in school or in the military. Compare that to countries like Canada and America where they don't have a culture of school uniforms, where students could always wear their own clothes to school.
Furthermore, this is set against a backdrop of a culture of conformity - Singapore isn't a particularly liberal or progressive society, it is a very conservative Asian society. Within that context, many men will be hesitant to dress differently from the boss - dress less casually than the boss and you may risk the boss thinking that you don't take your work seriously enough. Dress more formally than the boss and you may risk the boss wondering if you're dressing up for a job interview elsewhere after work. Thus many Singaporean men ignore all fashion trends and simply default to the way their bosses dress as the path of least resistance and if fashion is sacrificed in the process, well so be it.
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| Look - they're all dressing like their big boss... |
The perfect excuse that Singaporean men can use is that it is very hot and humid all year round in Singapore, so the fashion has to reflect the climate - when it is 34 degrees at lunchtime, you need to dress sensibly or risk sweating profusely and nobody likes the sweat-stained look. However, this "uniform" by Singaporean males hardly reflects the climate at all. If climate were to determine attire in Singapore, then we'll all be walking around in shorts and T-shirt - but instead, all buildings are air-conditioned, so one cannot use climate as an excuse.
Perhaps to answer this question, we need to look to other cultures and find the answers there. In Europe, the aristocratic men have always had plenty of money to spend on fashion and for a long time, their fashion have always reflected their wealth and status in society. Since it only really gets hot in the summer months, for the rest of the year - clothes also served a far more basic purpose of keeping one warm, apart from declaring one's social status. Modesty about one's wealth is a fairly modern value - yes perhaps in the last 20, 30 years, some politicians have been keen to avoid ostentatious displays of wealth (especially during times of austerity), but this is going against the grain of centuries of the rich expressing their wealth through fashion. Times are changing - well, at least in the West. It does come across as very bad taste to blatantly show off one's wealth in more social contexts.
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| It is frowned upon to show off one's wealth in the West. |
Is there such a tradition in Singapore? No, Not really. I'm casting my mind back to my childhood and the stereotypical image of the rich Chinese Towkays who were your typical rich Singaporean businessmen who have made their fortunes back in the 1970s and 1980s. The images that come to mind include these huge Mercedes Benz cars, big gold rings (and other forms of expensive jewelry like gold chains), even gold teeth so the Towkay could literally show off his wealth by simply flashing a smile. These are far more blatant expressions of wealth - ironically, the Towkay's fashion sense, once you get past the golden adornments, isn't that different from his less wealthy Singaporean peers. After all, it is not easy to tell the difference between a S$20 pair of trousers and a S$200 pair of trousers - but a flashy gold Rolex is an instantly recognizable symbol of wealth. When a Towkay wants to show off his wealth, he is not subtle.
I know that quite a number of my younger readers weren't even around in the 1980s (crikey now I feel old), so let me paint you a nostalgic picture of Singapore back then. Let's go back to 1985 and meet Mr Tow, a Towkay was 50 years old in 1985 and was born in 1935. He was born just before WW2 and has spent his early years surviving the brutal Japanese occupation of Singapore. His family lived through very hard times and had lost everything in the war. When the war was finally over in 1945, he was able to resume his education for a short while but was forced to find work to support his family a few years later after his father died.
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| Singapore was a very different place when Mr Tow was a child. |
Mr Tow worked for a businessman who ran a hardware store and soon learned the tricks of the trade on the shop floor. As he was dealing with customers directly, he learned what their needs were, which products were most in demand and how much they were spending on these products. Over the years, Mr Tow was careful with money, saving up to start his own business - by the time he turned 28, he was able to open his own hardware store and with the knowledge he had accumulated over the years, his hardware store was extremely successful and before long, he was able to open another one - by the time he turned 50, Mr Tow had a chain of hardware stores across Singapore.
Someone like Mr Tow never had any formal education nor would you consider him "posh" by our modern standards, but then again, we forget just how westernized my generation has become because we're judging someone like Mr Tow by very modern standards rather than seeing him within the context of his local culture.We may say, "Mr Tow doesn't appreciate high art, never mind going to the opera or the ballet, the closest he has been to the theatre was watching his daughter's primary school play - thus he lacks cultural refinement." Whilst that may be true, the bulk of Mr Tow's peers would have never ever been to the opera either - whilst going to the opera, ballet or theatre would be far less of a big deal for younger Singaporeans who have had the benefit of a great education that Mr Tow never had.
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| Mr Tow has never been to the theatre. |
Allow me to be blunt: the typical Singaporean Towkay in the 1980s was neither posh nor classy - he wasn't highly educated and typically didn't speak much or any English. He was the kind of businessman who thrived on pure business acumen and is a self-made man, creating a business empire out of nothing. So whilst he may not know his Shakespeare from his Chaucer and he may dress like a taxi driver, he can walk into any car showroom in town and buy the most expensive car available. Such is the kind of "new wealth" that one associates with many booming Asian economies - contrast this to "old wealth" that we are more familiar with in the West, where the wealth has been passed down from generation to generation, managed carefully to ensure that there is always enough to leave a legacy.
There is much snobbery in the West amongst the aristocrats - those in the upper class will use subtle pieces of information such as your accent, the way you dress, your knowledge of certain cultural bookmarks and the things you talk about to determine if your place in society, ie. your social class. It is a subtle code of conduct that the upper classes use to differentiate themselves from those who have not had the wealth to buy them a refined upbringing. This kind of British class-based snobbery in Asia is rare - snobbery in Asia is based purely on wealth and it doesn't matter if your family has had that wealth for ten generations or ten weeks. It is only amongst those Singaporeans who are rather anglicized who have adopted this notion of social class.
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| The British have a very clear concept of social class. |
This is why men in the West, particularly those who work in certain industries like banking and law, are very mindful of the way they dress because they want to make sure they send out the right signals when it comes to telling others what their social status is. However in Singapore, nobody cares because those rules simply do not apply in Asia - or at least, a totally different set of rules apply. It's bizarre to me at least, being the guy from Ang Mo Kio who has spent half his life in Europe, because Singapore may have the trappings of a very westernized society on the outside - but it has well and truly rejected the British concept of social class despite being a former British colony. It is simply a cultural concept that just doesn't translate very well into a Singaporean context.
Hence what Singaporeans have is a far more egalitarian approach to fashion - whether you're the super rich Towkay or a taxi driver, you dress pretty much the same way. It is like an unspoken rule that Singaporean men have chosen to obey, maybe because both the millionaire Towkay and the humble taxi driver have had to wear uniforms at school and during national service and they have that shared experience. So whilst the modern Singaporean executive may conform when it comes to the way he dresses, he would gladly splash out on an expensive branded accessory - like a watch or belt which may cost a lot more than all the other items of clothing he is wearing. In this day and age, this luxury accessory can be high tech: such as a mobile phone, extremely expensive wallets, pens and bags from Louis Vuitton - that is his way to say, "I'm rich, I can afford to spend thousands of dollars on this Rolex watch and Louis Vuitton bag. Hey everyone, look at me, look at my symbols of wealth, I can afford this expensive item!" This is the modern day equivalent of the Towkay's gold teeth - somewhat less tacky but still a long way to go if you want to be classy.
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| LV are doing very well in Singapore. |
Therein lies the juxtaposition - on one hand, the men do conform when it comes to dressing a certain way, on the other hand, they seem pretty keen to show off their wealth by donning very expensive branded accessories. Why the contradiction? I find this puzzling - but I suppose there is a sense of "follow the leader" here. If the big boss, the Towkay, is dressing a certain way, then the younger men will emulate his style without raising any philosophical questions about the apparent contradiction. For me, the question is not so much philosophical, but a more straight forward one concerning fashion: why spend so much money on a watch or a pen when you can spend that money on nice clothes? I would gladly wear a cheap watch and spend that money instead of beautiful shirts and suits - but then again, that's not what Singaporean men do. They will spend relatively little on very plain office wear and splurge out on a Louis Vuitton wallet or Gucci belt. I don't get it - it just doesn't make sense to me.
I suppose the answer lies in the purpose of fashion in each subculture - in the West, such an ostentatious display of an expensive accessory would be dismissed as 'bling': a desperate attempt to show off, but in Asia, many sales executives might feel obliged to show up at business meetings armed to the teeth with branded accessories because they fear they won't be taken seriously or "look cheap" if they do not show that they can afford such expensive luxuries. Turning up in a shirt with the wrong kind of collar at a meeting could instantly send the wrong kind of message to a client in London, but in Singapore, I hardly think anyone would notice the collar on your shirt - people simply do not judge others that way. (But yes, I would. Gosh, that makes me very unSingaporean by that token.)
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| Would you notice the kind of collar on his shirt? |
Every society values something different within their culture - take the Japanese for example, who place so much emphasis on being polite. Honorific speech in the Japanese language will confuse most learners of the language as they take being polite to a whole new level! Conjugating a verb wrongly during a business meeting in Tokyo may cause grave insult and result in a multibillion yen deal falling through. Likewise, in South Korea, they place as much emphasis on not just being polite but showing respect to your elders, such as in the way you hold your cup in their presence or how you pass an item across the table. This complex Korean system of showing respect through your body language (especially with your hands/arms) is neatly explained by Simon & Martina of EatyourKimchi here.
Here's my interpretation: they say imitation is the best form of flattery and whether or not younger Singaporean men are doing it deliberately, they are showing respect to their elders (think older Towkays) by simply dressing as badly as them, thus creating a culture where bad dress sense is normalized or at least the average level of style is kept so low that nobody is going to say, "he drives a Mercedes Benz, he has a gold Rolex, he has all that money but he still dresses like a taxi driver. Aiyoh, oh dear. All the money in the world can't buy you class."
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| I can't possibly work in a place where I had to conform with my peers. |
Maybe it is the ultimate gesture of respect - one that I would never offer my boss. Heck, I dress so much better than my two bosses and they're totally fine with it because they value different things: a Towkay in Singapore may value a "yes man", someone who is very good at taking orders without asking any stupid questions, someone who will just do as he is told and there are plenty of businesses which do operate like that (though that does remind me very much of the military where "yes sir" is the standard answer). However, there are businesses where your boss will expect you to bring something to the table, rather than be spoon-fed instructions on an hourly basis. Thus there are businesses where quirky individuals are allowed to be as quirky as they like - whilst in other businesses, trying to express your personality at work may be interpreted as disrespect to the big boss.
Hence in Singapore, most (though not all) men simply default to the mode where they show their bosses respect by imitating them. I doubt this is a conscious decision actually, it is more a case of, "if everyone in the office dresses like that, I had better conform or else I may risk not being seen as a team player. I don't want to stand out for the wrong reasons. And if the Towkay (and everyone else on the team) wears an expensive watch, then I need one too."
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| Conforming with everyone else may just make you miserable like them. |
Furthermore, there is an absolutely massive generation gap between someone like Mr Tow and myself. When it comes to fashion, I use very modern standards. I would use the internet to access information about fashion, I would do my research online. With my laptop, I can easily find out what the trendiest K-pop idols are wearing this week in Seoul or shop for bargains online from retailers who ship worldwide. The fashion industry has gone very high tech - your older Singaporean Towkay would be clueless about Instagram, Flickr, Twitter and Tumblr. So it is understandable why your older Towkay's taste in fashion may be frozen in time (say 1985), but this still doesn't explain why much younger, internet-savvy Singaporean men are seemingly oblivious to any notions of fashion.
Back in the 1980s, before the age of the internet, fashion trends were slow to spread - Singaporeans in 1985 would learn about foreign fashion trends through imported magazines, TV programmes and movies. However, in the 2014, with the help of social media, many younger Singaporeans are now a lot more aware of international fashion trends. Besides, a lot more fashion in now available in Singapore: back in 1985, the places you could shop were far more limited: OG, CK Tangs, Robinsons and Metro were the big names back then and there were also more down to earth options in the HDB estates. Nowadays, Singaporean teenagers have a pick of H&M, A&F, Bershka, Pull & Bear and countless other foreign fashion labels who have set up shop in Singapore. So the fashion is available - you just have to go shopping on Orchard Road, the information is there - you just have to go online: but in spite of all that, Singaporean men are still so badly dressed in 2014. Tsk tsk - Singaporean women don't seem to have that problem!
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| ION Orchard - a glitzy mall in Singapore. |
Will this trend persist in the coming years? I don't think so actually! Firstly, if Mr Tow is still alive today, he would be 79 years old and he would definitely be retired. The people in top management today (between the ages of 55 and 64) would have been born after 1950 - that means that most of them would have at least had a decent education, unlike Mr Tow whose education was unfortunately interrupted by the Japanese invasion in WW2. Yes, I am drawing a correlation between snobbery and education (and Singaporeans are oh so obsessed with academic achievements) - this is so clearly an controversial issue in Singapore today where people would readily discriminate against those who are not as well educated as themselves. So much for Singaporean becoming an egalitarian utopia. Towkays like Mr Tow would become increasingly rare with time as those who do become rich in Singapore today tend to be those who are highly educated and received a lot of help from their parents rather than those who have started with nothing but struggled against the odds. With better education will come more cultural refinement and (hopefully) that will improve one's fashion sense; and Towkays like Mr Tow will eventually become extinct.
Our attitudes as a society are also evolving very quickly - this was probably something that most older Singaporeans did not anticipate. Since the main language of instruction in all Singaporean schools is English, this meant that a whole generation of Singaporeans have grown up with English as a first language as their Asian mother tongue as a second language at best. This meant that much of the media they consume and their sources of influences are in the English language, from the West. Thus an undergraduate in Singapore today may pick someone like Richard Branson, Bill Gates or Steve Jobs as his role model, rather than fashion himself after the nearest local Towkay.
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| Tom Daley is a role model for loads of young people around the world. |
Change is also coming to Singaporean society in the form of a large expatriate work force, bringing with them a different set of values and work ethics to the work place. A young Singaporean graduate today may end up working for a British or Swiss boss instead of someone like Mr Tow and would be in a very different kind of environment compared to his peers who do choose to work for a Towkay like Mr Tow. Many Singaporeans who were educated abroad and have worked abroad may bring back a totally different management style, encouraging a different kind of office environment where workers feel far less of a need to conform with everyone else in the company.
Lastly, this influx of foreign competition into Singapore turns up the heat on the locals - perhaps back in the 1980s, you could get by if you simply kept your head down, be a yes man, conform and blend in; there was less competition back then and there were enough jobs for everyone. But as the population increases towards 6.9 million, you could no longer just conform and hope to get by - no, you will need to work harder than your peers, prove that you are better than your peers and rise above the competition by standing out from the crowd rather than just blending in. Perhaps it will be this new 'competition' factor that will finally change the culture of conformity in Singapore.
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| Will it be the density of population that will be the catalyst for many social changes? |
But for now, I think such changes are still at least 10 if not 20 years away, at least. Social changes like that usually take a rather long time in Singapore. That's it from me on why Singaporean men dress so badly. In part two, I shall prepare you for the day when you decide that you can no longer just conform but will need to outshine the competition: the first step about going into corporate battle is to waltz into the office looking so much better than everyone else (Limpeh's art of war). I will offer some simple tips as to how you can look just a bit smarter than everyone else in the office. If you have any questions on the issue of men's fashion, please feel free to leave a comment - thanks for reading.














Hi Limpeh, it seems like the Chinese on the mainland are also spending on accessories instead of clothes, maybe the Chinese already had this culture for a few hundred years already, and when our ancestors came to Singapore they brought this mindset with them. Actually I don't think that the 'fashion revolution' will take 20 years to manifest, 10 years is more likely. This is because many Singaporeans dislike the mainland Chinese, and honestly, the PRC aren't very culturally refined, so this may speed up the process as Singaporeans want to be distinct from the PRC Chinese.
ReplyDeleteHi Ron, well it seems that Chinese people have by and large adopted western styles of clothing, even in the most rural part of China today. You hardly see anyone dressing in traditional Chinese clothing - the qipao/cheongsam is a modern adaptation of traditional Chinese clothing for women, but a male equivalent doesn't exist at all. So if Chinese people are going to wear angmor clothes, they may as well wear nice ones - but oh no, they dress badly and buy expensive accessories instead? Duh.
DeleteSo yes, as you put it, more westernized/anglicized younger Singaporeans like you would adopt a far more western approach to the issue (the way I do) for the very reasons you have explained above.
PS. You do realize someone like Mr Tow would have a lot more common with the PRCs than you and I ...
Yeah, Mr Tow would probably be visiting his hometown every few years while we no longer feel any connections to China. We identify ourselves as Singaporeans now, not as someone whose ancestors came from China
DeleteAaaah this is where I must correct you. You see, Mr Tow is practically my father and China had shut its door to all foreigners (including Singaporean-Chinese people) from 1950 (when the Communist government were looking for enemies from within) to about 1983 when Deng Xiaoping embraced reforms. So that's a period of about 33 years when Mr Tow could not have even been granted a visa to set foot in China even if he wanted to - HK or Taiwan would have been as close as he could get to China. Mr Tow's kinship to the motherland is actually based on something a lot more basic: an inability to speak English, hence a default setting of feeling more Chinese.
DeleteThe fact that you and I are communicating in English (I guess we probably could do this in Chinese but we're not) speaks volume about the fact that we think in English and are more comfortable in English - hence that has a far greater impact on our identity and how we feel far less Chinese than Mr Tow.
The need to display wealth through Rolexes, Mercedes-Benzs, and Louis Vuitton is a very gauche and nouvelle riche thing. It is also a very Asian thing to do. Even in Canada, I see a lot of Asians behaving poorly at the malls or restaurants, and sporting their Rolexes and other brand names. I laugh at such idiots because to me, good taste is subtle. Take Princess Di for example. She had expensive jewelry and clothes, but put them altogether, and she looked elegant at all times. Same with Prince Charles, Will, and Harry. Somehow, if you have class, it shows even in a pair of jeans and white tee-shirt. The towkays are old now, but somehow the younger generations in Singapore still do not get good taste. They still believe in ostentatious display of wealth. My Indian mother-in-law, for example, wears all her gold bangles on her arms. If she had 50, she'd wear them all to a wedding, so all could see her wealth. Stupid. For me, I'd rather spend my money on a vacation than ugly gold. A well-dressed man is more attractive than a man in polyester (the horror!) and a Rolex.
ReplyDeleteYes I agree Di - in the UK, George Osborne received a huge media backlash for tweeting a picture of him having an 'expensive' burger for dinner - that burger cost £6.75 and I'm like, duh, so what? I have spent more on a hamburger in Covent Garden recently http://www.shakeshack.com/location/london-covent-garden/ and that's the kind of prices you have to pay to eat out in central London these days. This obsession with hiding one's wealth and not showing off is taken to such an extreme in the UK it bemuses me at times.
DeleteThis is the context where the upper class use very subtle cultural bookmarks to see if a person is refined: ie. the shirt collar. It is such subtle details, but I can tell a lot about a man simply by looking at his shirt collar... then there are things like his accent and manners. In the west, since rich people tend not to show off their wealth with gold Rolex watches, you have to look for evidence of cultural refinement to detect a refined upbringing.
It's a world away from Singapore, where displays of wealth seem to be an acceptable alternative to good taste in clothes. Look out for part 2.
6.75 pounds is about (guess) CAD$13.00. That is not crazy. My husband had a US$ 14.00 burger with fries across the border. It's standard at a nice restaurant. Not even fancy. If it is $20.00 I would say that is ridiculous. Back to showing off ... rich people who are not Asians then to choose wisely. They may go for a Range Rover or even a Subaru Forester or a Volvo. They spend money on vacations. Looking fwd to part two.
ReplyDeleteActually £6.75 = C$11.78 - so yeah, it's not crazy. That place in Covent Garden I went to the other night served a delicious burger and the burgers there ranged between £4.75 to £7.50 and a side order of fries starts from £2.75, a drink from about £2-ish. Such are the typical prices for eating out in London, so I think it is ridiculous that people should kick up a fuss when a minister eats a burger at that price when there are plenty of people who can afford food at those prices. I love work lunches when I can pick anything on the menu knowing that I'm not picking up the tab and a main course in a nice restaurants starts from around the £20-mark.
DeleteCurrently writing something on education - part 2 will come later in the week.
Hi Alex, great to see you write about Singapore men's fashion, something which I have been paying close attention since I started working in the business district a couple of years ago. As a straight guy, besides ladies, I also like to observe men as a way of self assessment. I agree most men in Singapore do not put much attention to what they wear, but I think things are slowly improving as people's attitudes can change with more self awareness and exposure to western social norms ( more well dressed ang mohs in Singapore now). I have been picking up my fashion sense by reading websites like Put This On and Fashionbeans.
ReplyDeleteWell, just to share some of the major common fashion don'ts for office wear that I often observe in Singapore:
- clothes that don't fit properly
- sports shoes
- brown belt and black shoes; black belt and brown shoes
- pointed or square-toed shoes
- hand phone belt clips
- visible under shirts
- worn out shirt collars
- dark colored shirts
- cheap dress shoes with the "leather" peeling off (they are not real leather)
- too high or low rise pants
- white socks (MJ huh?)
I think to dress well does not necessarily mean we must spend a lot of money on it. I see many departmental stores sell reasonably good quality shirts and pants at rather low prices during sales. Of course, higher priced stuff usually come in better material and workmanship. But for every budget level, we still can achieve a certain acceptable standard that is not offensive to most people as long as we can avoid the key major fashion mistakes. Personally, I think finding fitting clothes is the most important thing. For shirts, a fitting shoulder is a minimum must, the other aspects of the shirt can be easily altered or tolerated to a certain extent if they are not exactly fitting. As for shoes, after a number of years of experience in keep changing of worn out cheap shoes, I find it make more sense to invest in really good shoes made of full grain leather (at least 300 sgd as a guide) which can last probably many years to come (just need to replace bottom sole when worn out). Of course, also need to learn how to take care of your wardrobe to maximize their life.
I guess most men in Singapore do not dress well is not because of the lack of know how (fashion blogs are widely available online), but more of the lack of self awareness. The repressive nature of Singapore society probably also make most men to just simply conform to misguided social norms in fashion and style.
I think in Singapore, and true for many other places, most people's lives are focused on making money, and very little room for anything else. When money is made, people can afford expensive things. I think the social etiquette fail came not from buying certain luxury expensive things, but from the way of display of these things. It seems vulgar and poor taste to me to buy things that come with overt logos and in your face branding so as to show off loudly to other people who may or may not give two hoots about it. These people probably derive their sense of self-worth from these expensive toys, hence they behave in ways that purposefully invite others to judge them on that basis.
There are several ways to show you wealth in very subtle measures as well. The fact that you have money will show. Because it will be something you don't worry about, it will also leave you with few worries in general, it will keep you relaxed, you'll be cool in most situations.
Hope you keep writing and share your views on fashion and its reflections of the society.
Hi there and thanks for your comment. All very good points indeed!
DeleteWhy is there this lack of self awareness though? That's what I am keen to delve into and uncover... Is it a general lack of self-confidence? You use the word "awareness" which is an interesting choice.
You mention that the lack of time is a factor for the poor fashion sense (ie. "I work so hard, I have no time to go shopping, care about fashion) - but in the West, if you dress particularly badly, it could affect your ability to make money if you are in an industry like law or banking and dealing with clients. Such a penalty for poor fashion sense doesn't seem to exist in Singapore because the clients are just as badly dressed (that may or may not happen in London - but would you take that risk when you are handling an important account on behalf of your company? You owe it to your employers to manage that account well and dress appropriately.)
I think the most basic and subtle way one displays one's wealth is the way you talk, the way you behave, ie. good manners and a good command of the language comes from a refined upbringing - that doesn't just come out of the blue, that comes from paying for an expensive education.
Here's something I do to ensure that my office clothes fit and your readers may find useful. I usually just buy something inexpensive off the rack and then take it to the tailor at the shopping centre (e.g. Queensway) or wet market to have it altered. It cost only $5 to 10 per shirt/pants. Branded shirts/pants are usually better fitting but the superior cut is not worth the premium, IMO. After alteration, the shirt usually looks better on me than a branded shirt and almost as good as a tailored one but is much cheaper than either.
DeleteHi Fox, that's kinda unusual for me... The only alternations I've had were for trouser legs (which are often too long) - but shirts? I guess it is because my built is very normal - not too thin, not too fat, not too tall, not too short, just plain average so clothes fit me fine. If you're after a shirt that moulds to the contours of your torso better, then you should shop for slim fit shirts as shirts come in different kinds of cuts. Are you particularly thin so normal shirts kinda look a bit big on you?
DeleteI am of average built, actually.
DeleteLet me explain: most ready-to-wear shirts look too big on most people (except on the very fat or people who lift weights) because they are designed to fit as many people as possible. Hence, these shirts are especially baggy around the arm and underarm area. A good tailored/bespoke shirt should be form-fitting, like a business suit. Tailored shirts in Singapore start from $110 (and you would have to visit a tailor and then wait for a week).
LIFT, these ready-to-wear shirts probably look better on you because you are a former gymnast with a developed physique. But in reality, a lot of improvement can be had by just paying a tailor/seamstress to do some alteration. I buy shirts for $30, have them altered by $5 to 10 and look as good as or even better than me wearing a more expensive slim-fit shirt. Of course, tailored shirts are even better but they are expensive.
I suspect that you would look even better in your shirts once you have them altered (which is really a 5 min job for a skilled seamstress in Singapore). Of course, one danger is that it is easier for a person to errmmm 'outgrow' his/her shirt after it is altered. That's why most people are still able to wear the same (unaltered) shirt after putting on 10 kg. Ready-to-wear shirts are just made to fit very fat people.
That's a fair point - I have not competed since 2000 but still train gymnastics and/or diving about 4-5 times a week, so I am in decent shape for a man my age and I've never really noticed the "baggy" nature around the underarm area, but I totally see your point. Personally, I tend to go for slim-fit shirts but as I tend to wear suits in London, the shirt is usually covered my the jacket anyway so it's not like people get to see that much of the shirt - unlike in Singapore, where it is just way too hot for suits.
DeleteI agree that Singapore is too hot for suits. That is precisely why I have my shirts altered. Also, slim-fit shirts contain spandex which gives them a slight 'shiny' look. (If you look at carefully at women's clothing that are form-fitting, they usually contain some spandex and have the 'shiny'/glossy look.)
DeleteAlteration is not that uncommon in Singapore but it is mostly ladies who have their clothes done (hahaha!). Ask your female relatives. Alterations cost extra for CNY and Hari Raya. Women clothing are more form-fitting which is also why they need to use the fitting room more than men do. I would encourage more Singaporeans to have their shirts altered because most of these seamstresses/tailors are locals and can use the extra business during their off peak time (not CNY or Hari Raya) since fewer people are using tailors/seamstresses nowadays.
Pardon me for playing the devil's advocate, but can I also advocate that Singaporean men should hit the gym to build up their upper bodies as well so that they would have the muscles to fill a shirt properly (rather than have a pot belly) ... ?
DeleteThey should, they should although not everyone may find the time to do that. My suggestion is for men who don't have the time to develop that sort of physique or don't want to become Jabba the Hutt.
DeleteDon't think you knew many towkays in the 80s. I grew up with them. They didn't dress to your stereotype. Only the nouveau riche did - the successful towkays hid in plain sight.
ReplyDeleteSimple reason for dress sense - good dress sense is not valued. For which I am profoundly grateful - I needn't refresh my wardrobe as frequently.
Should it be valued? Probably more than it is now. There is a reverse disdain for dandies - a sense that they should spend more time mugging than dressing up.
Frankly, I'm quite happy to have the luxury of dressing like a slob. Sure, happy to dress up if I have to face clients, or go for an interview, but otherwise? If I could get away with shorts and sandals in the office, I would.
Tools of the trade, ultimately. If you need clothes to be successful, sure, knock yourself out. If you can deliver without - why bother?
Hi Huichun, thank you v much for your comment and it has given me a lot of food for thought. I was worried that my part 2 will be a more frivolous piece about what to wear - but I think I will instead do a 'style vs substance' piece, which will pretty much just respond to your points.
DeleteAs for 1980s Towkays, to be fair, there's a sliding scale, some where more flashy than others. The gold teeth ... that's a bit of an extreme stereotype.
Part 2 coming soon - I am writing two other pieces right now (one on education, one on Alvivi) and also editing my latest vlog post. But thanks again for helping me find the right angle for my part 2.
I agree that if the dress code at work is casual, you should dress casual as well. However, good taste should still be observed. Lugging around a Louis Vuitton when you can't even pronounce it is stupid. It's not LV! And Rolex is not Lolex! Ostentatious display of wealth without good breeding is vulgar and desperate. You don't need to be the landed gentry to have good breeding though. Simple good manners and good tastes will speak volumes than the gold Rolex and polyester suit.
DeleteGlad I gave you food for thought.
ReplyDeleteCeteris paribus, they who dress better do better. Sure. But ceteris non paribus.
As for the sliding scale, yes agreed - I just think (based on my small personal sample) that the scale was weighted much more to the less flashy.
I am currently in Austria and having some brilliant ideas thinking of this topic - I will write a full length blog post when i am back in London. Look out for it.
DeleteAnother reason is probably that towkays and other men of that era were brought up in a culture of thrift, and were very pragmatic about their clothes, so even after they make it big they don't think to spend on their clothes, but rather on cars and houses and accessories instead.
ReplyDeleteAnother point, I feel that rolling up sleeves need not be conceived as a sign of discomfort with the shirt. It gives you an additional way of wearing the same shirt, so more outfit options. It's an easy way to get something in between a short and long sleeve, rather than buying medium-sleeve shirts which are rare and seldom high-quality. It is also a useful way of adjusting the level of formality of an outfit, and also things like colour balance and pattern. Plus it is noticeably less warm to wear a long-sleeve shirt that way, which is quite relevant when leaving the office for lunch or something. Ultimately, if you are classy, it will show, whether you roll up your sleeves or not.
I would respectfully agree to disagree with you on the point of rolled up sleeves - you can justify it till the cows come home but that is a point I will deal with in part 2. Look at Huichun's comment above, I would ask for you to wait for my part 2 on this topic, "style vs substance". If we follow your logic, then I can pick my nose in public and still claim to be classy - where do you draw the line then: I can turn around and accuse you of being judgmental or shallow if you object to me picking my nose in front of you... See, do you want to go down that route then. I am currently in Salzburg, Austria on holiday and will resume blogging when I get home to London later in the week.
DeleteWhat are medium-sleeved shirts? I thought sleeves are either long or short. The fact that towkays would rather spend on cars and assesories rather than good clothes proof their lack of good taste and class.What bothers me most that younger towkays these days still dress poorly. I use the term towkay cheekily. I meant younger working professionals still exhibit poor tastes. Those logos with a man on a horse does not maketh a well-dressed man.
DeleteHahahahaha I just know that Di and I are on the same wavelength.
DeletePS: As for medium length sleeve shirts, it is something that has emerged in the last ten years or so... not my thing but if you work in a very dress down, casual environment, then why not just wear what the hell you like. I am currently in Austria where it is so dressed down and casual, but then again I am in a small town not a big city. Regardless, it is a matter of taking pride in your appearance if and when you have to deal with strangers that makes the difference. Certainly you can create an impression whilst being casual but tasteful. You can be formal and just plain bland by the same token.
DeleteSpeaking frankly, I dislike persons who claim that "x has no class." It smacks of an inability to accept difference.
ReplyDeleteSeparately. There is no accounting for taste. So why fight over it?
The ideal answer to picking nose is - A finds picking noses disgusting, while B thinks it's just fine; and both converge on a solution such as B will agree not to pick his nose in front of A and A will promise not to care of B picks his nose otherwise.
Hi Huichun, guten äbend, I am still here in Austria so part 2 will have to wait... but you get the idea, I will lay out a series of scenarios to show you how this is a slippery slope, where do you draw the line: can we even draw a line anywhere. Is this just an inability to accept difference, say if someone started picking his nose during a job interview and flicking the nose crap in the air, would you draw the line there or is this freaking out over nasal mining just another sign of someone being unable to accept difference. So where is the line drawn and who gets to decide where that line should be drawn, using some real life examples of stories which i have encountered over the years, i will show you how some people i have come across over the years have found themselves in situations where they have ended up in trouble because they made wrongful assumptions and misjudged the situation they were in.
DeleteLook out for it when I do write it later in the week. The punchline is: it all depends on the situation, open your eyes and look around you, at the people around you rather than being so focused on what you think, what you want etc.
Yes yes, no disputes that context wins.
DeleteLike I said, ideal solution is agree to accept differences. Practical solution? He who wants something from the other adapts.
No, no, no! There is just no place in public where it is ok to pick your nose! Yuck! The horror!
DeleteOK I am back in London and reunited with my computer. Gimme a few days and I will pump out part 2!
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