Firstly, am I surprised that they have broken up? Not really - you see, they have been going through a really stressful time with the on going trial and there's a distinct possibility that either or both of them are going to end up with some jail time. Talk about a stressful situation - now they have been rather careful as to what they say to the press since this is an ongoing case, but as you can imagine, when two people get into a sticky situation like that over the whole Bak Kut Teh joke that went badly wrong, surely there must be some element of blame going on. Whose idea was it originally? Did one or both parties come up with the idea? Did one party actually think that it was a bad idea but went along with it anyway? (Will we ever find out what actually happened back then?)
| The legal process is dragging on and on and on... |
Secondly, it seems that they both have the same lawyer (Chong Joo Tian), but surely an easy defence for Vivian Lee is for her to simply play the "I was naive and I was misled" card and blame the entirely episode on Alvin Tan. After all, Alvin had always been the more vocal amongst the two of them (particularly on social media) and even when there is any communication from Alvivi, I can tell pretty quickly when it is coming from Alvin and when it is coming from Vivian. Surely someone from Vivian's family (or one of her friends) may have suggested the possibility of her pinning it entirely on Alvin. All she has to do is to turn up at court looking repentant and if she plays her cards right, a judge may decide to let her get away with it. Alvin, however, wouldn't have that luxury - there's no way a judge would allow him to blame it all on Vivian. Would Vivian be tempted to play that card to get a lighter sentence?
Thirdly, given how stressful the situation has been since their arrest in July, there are many things that they are not discussing publicly. This whole infidelity episode may be ugly, but it is probably just the last straw that broke the camel's back. There are so many other issues going on - for example, Alvin is still running his business and trying to make arrangements for it to be either sold or managed should he go to jail. All these other issues are adding plenty of stress to what is already a complicated relationship - some couples manage to survive a crisis together, supporting each other through the hard times. Some others fall apart when the relationship is tested like that: Alvin and Vivian never had a traditional relationship to begin with and perhaps they were under a lot of pressure to show to the world that they knew what they were doing and were happy together. That in itself can add unnecessary strain on a relationship, thus in hindsight, this breakup didn't really come as a surprise.
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| Alvivi being front page news in Malaysia when I was in KL |
Lastly, I think the infidelity issue is but a small part of the big picture. Many people have commented that since they are both clearly having sex with others, then what is the issue if either party chooses to have sex outside the relationship (AKA an 'open relationship') since they didn't believe in monogamy to begin with? You see, so many people are so focused on the sex that they become oblivious to the other issues at play here. In this case, it goes way beyond a simple matter of jealousy, it is a question of tact. Clearly, they have no problems with each other having other sexual partners, but it was issue seemed to have been that of one party having "broken the rules of swinging" they have agreed to. Now that could be any other arbitrary rule that they could have set, such as, "you may not have the last cookie in the cookie jar without first consulting the other party if they want to have the cookie."
Let's stick with the cookie analogy for example - if Vivian ate the last cookie without asking Alvin if he wanted it, how would that make Alvin feel? You see, it's not a question of how hungry Alvin was or how much he liked that cookie - it then boils down to a question of communication and trust and whether or not Vivian knew the effects of her actions on Alvin but still willfully went ahead anyway and ate that last cookie. In any case, any couple who have been together for decades will tell you that we all make mistakes within a relationship and we all do stupid things that upsets the other party. Each time that happens, it tests the relationship. This happens all the time in any relationship.
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| One needs to look at the big picture in the Alvivi case. |
If you're the party who has done something wrong, you have to decide if it is worth your while to apologize, ask for forgiveness and try to make amends - or simply give up. Likewise, if you're the party who has been hurt, you have to decide if it is worth your while to accept the apology, forgive and try to worth things out. If the relationship is strong enough, then both parties will agree to try to work things out. But if the relationship is already under a lot of strain for a while, then it may take just a fairly minor incident to be the last straw the breaks the camel's back.
And that's my understanding: these two have been under so much stress in the last six months - this was but the last straw that broke the camel's back. These two young people have made a mistake with the whole Bak Kut Teh episode and are paying a very high price for it. They have been trying hard to get on with their lives whilst awaiting trial, but clearly this has put too much strain on their relationship. So please, if you are trying to understand why this couple have broken up, do not focus on the issue of sex or swinging - instead, you really need to look at the wider picture to understand the context of what they have been going through in the last six months.
I know that Alvin will bounce back one way or another, he's a maverick. Yes he's made some stupid mistakes along the way (including answering his haters on social media directly, aaargh. Alvin, just ignore them lah, giving them your attention will only fuel their attacks, never feed a troll.) As for Vivian, please don't underestimate her. Many people have dismissed her as the more naive girlfriend who has been going along with everything that her boyfriend says, but she has grown up a lot in the 15 months since stepping into the limelight, grabbing the opportunity that was presented instead of shying away from it. I see a young woman who deserves a chance and I do hope she gets it.
Let me know what you think about this issue - do leave a comment below please, thanks for reading! Terima kasih.


Hi limpeh, I think that Alvin can definitely succeed wherever he goes, because he seems to have a very independent mindset. His high profile will certainly help him a lot. As for Vivian, I think that slowly she will be forgotten. For myself, when I think of Alvivi I only thought of Alvin, because he's the 'face' of the couple, whereas Vivian is slightly more low profile than Alvin.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah I agree, from my interactions with Alvin, I can see how intelligent he is - as for Vivian, I have never met her nor have had any interactions with her so I am not going to judge her. They're just really ahead of their time - Singapore and Malaysia are not ready for them yet.
DeleteThe fact is things do progress, societies do change. I did come across some PRC porn for the first time the other day and I was like, holy shit, is this for real? Made in China porn? I thought the Chinese were too squeamish and conservative to do porn, but sure enough, it was Beijing made porn. Like the Japanese have been making porn for decades now and the Thais have always been involved in porn, but those were the only 2 Asian countries pumping out any significant amounts of porn and now there's PRC porn, LOL. So that's evidence that things do evolve and change in Asia - slowly, but change does come. Just not to Singapore or Malaysia yet when it comes to sex & sexuality.
I don't think Alvin was foolish to answer his haters directly, he is intelligent enough to know who is trolling him and most of the time they get trolled back without knowing it.
ReplyDeleteYes and no... Some of the people who are trolling him are not doing it very intelligently - they insist on posting in Singlish - like really bad broken English and you know me, I am proud of the fact that I am a Hokkien speaker and it is my mother tongue, but good grief, presenting any kind of argument in Singlish like that doesn't earn you any brownie points in terms of credibility. And most of the time, it's just really dumb trolling and name calling - there are trolls who don't even know the basic facts of the case and they just wade into the argument and Alvin has been responding to a lot of them (forums, FB, Twitter...) and I'm like, what's the point of responding to haters like that? Even if you do show them up to be idiots, IMHO, that's a hollow victory. You only allow yourself to get angry and frustrated by responding to them and sometimes, it makes more sense to simply deny them the attention these trolls are craving.
DeleteI think he is clever in that he is attracting attention to himself and using controversy to promote his new book. Like they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity'.
DeletePardon my cynicism man, but there must be better ways to drum up publicity than to engage in a flame-war with your haters on social media.
DeletePersonally, I would think it will be cleverer if he follow what you did and simply migrate to a Western country like UK,OZ or NZ. With his academic strength and intelligence, it is actually not too difficult.
ReplyDeleteHis antics wouldn't attract much attention there due to myriad of porn available there. He took this chance to launch a book knowing he can take advantage of this opportunity to make some fast cash. He is biz savvy to say the least. Hell, he can even start a porn company in an ang moh country and no one is going to bat much of an eyelid.
However, he has a criminal record now and that would make immigration difficult. Best wishes to him.