Is taking a business degree better for me? From what I heard from my relatives, I was told that Law and Business degree are highly valued by employers because such graduates are trained to present and speak confidently.
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| What is the secret to presenting confidently? |
When I read what her relatives told her, I went into a long rant telling her that her relatives were spouting bullshit and didn't know what the hell they were talking about. Gosh, I really feel bad for young people like LBS out there who are listening to advice from adults who no doubt have good intentions but often have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. You know, sometimes I have to take a step back and just leave things be because I cannot try to rectify the situation every time a stupid person spouts some bullshit like that - but in this case, I shall talk about the issue because I feel that I have some useful information I can share with my younger readers like LBS. After all, like her, my own parents or relatives were not any help when it came to career advice back when I was a teenager myself.
Okay, so why did this comment irritated me so much? I didn't realize it was even possible to cram so much misleading information into one sentence! Let me start taking it apart.
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1. A university simply does not train graduates to present and speak confidently.
There are things that a university can do for a student - they involve mostly imparting knowledge pertaining to the course the student is studying. There are a whole range of other "soft skills" however which students are simply expected to figure out for themselves, a good example of that is time management. It takes a certain amount of discipline to manage your time properly at university - there is often a heavy workload and deadlines to meet. Many students will also have to do many domestic chores like cooking, cleaning, the laundry, shopping for groceries as well as try to maintain a social life, participate in sports and often also do a part time job.
Now what do you think your university lecturer is going to say when you approach him and say, "I need you to teach me about time management." The answer would be, "you're an adult, take responsibility for your own actions and figure it out. You're not an eight year old child!" Likewise, if you approach your university lecturer and said, "I need you to teach me how to present and speak confidently." What do you think the response is going to be? "That's not my job. Figure it out for yourself - seek professional help if you have to but that's not my responsibility."
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University is not primary school - if you have earned yourself a place at a respectable university, then you're expected to arrive on campus with a certain set of skills: such as a decent command of English (or whatever language the course is taught in) and the minimum standard of mathematics required for the course. Public speaking is not something universities will teach you - rather, it is something they expect you to have already done as part of your primary and secondary education and like basic literacy and numeracy, it is something you're expected to be able to do on your very first day at university. You need to be able to speak up and contribute ideas constructive and eloquently during discussions, tutorials and group work. If you turn up at university and claim, "I can't do public speaking so I can't contribute during tutorials, I need the university to teach me about speaking confidently." Then believe you me, everyone (staff and other students alike) are going to turn around and give you that "what is wrong with you" look.
There is a whole range of soft skills you're expected to already have when you start university - university is not the place to start learning them. If you are only thinking about picking up these soft skills at university, then it is just too late. These are things that your parents and teachers should have considered in the first 18 years of your life, when you were growing up. Don't expect the university to perform miracles if you (and your parents) have woefully neglected that aspect of your development in the first 18 years of your life.
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| You will learn a lot at university - but don't expect miracles. |
2. Take responsibility for your command of the English language.
If your English really sucks and as a result, you lack the confidence to do public speaking because you're struggling with basic things like grammar or pronunciation, then you need to fix the problem. Your university is not going to sort that out for you. You'll probably meet many nice people in life who will brush the issue aside and sweep it under the carpet by saying, "oh don't worry, you sound fine, it's alright". But if you really think that it is an issue that is holding you back, then there are concrete steps you can take to improve your English.
It may involve seeking professional help from a voice coach or getting some intensive tuition from a native speaker, but again, this is not something your university will do for you. You have to decide if you want to do something about the situation and act upon it - take responsibility for yourself, do not wait for someone else to solve your problems because no one else is going to help you. Take control of the situation and get the help you need.
Some children are very confident when it comes to public speaking - this is because they have been nurtured in a conducive environment. A neglected child who grew up watching TV instead of playing with his/her peers will not have the same level of confidence. Parents and other family members play a huge part in this process during the child's formative years and this can have a major impact on how a child deals with public speaking. An important part of teaching a child to talk is to listen to the child and give the young child plenty of attention and interaction - this is not something that can be replicated by a TV as children just sit passively in front of a TV (and this is why young children should not watch TV as it is very bad for them - they really need that human interaction).
Remember, public speaking goes a lot further than simply sounding articulate and eloquent - a big part about communication is about listening to the other party (whether it is just one person or a big audience) and responding accordingly, so the communication is flowing both ways. A big part about speaking confidently is knowing that you are in control of the conversation, that you know exactly what your audience is feeling and you know precisely how to communicate the message you want them to take away - and that begins with listening to your audience. A great speaker is always an even better listener and this is something that has to be cultivated from a very young age, from the time a baby is about 12 to 18 months old. That is the time when children learn to talk and this goes a lot further than gaining a mastery of the language, it is about learning how to communicate with others.
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| Learning to speak confidently starts at a very young age. |
4. Parents have to take responsibility for this, not the university, definitely not NS.
What the fuck are LBS's relatives thinking, that you can neglect such a vital function in a child's development and then expecting the university to plug that big gap you've left in the poor child's development? Good grief: this is such a vital part of parenting and it is the parent's responsibility to deal with this issue - not the university's responsibility. And if a young person arrives at university with no public speaking skills and no self-confidence to stand up in front of a group of people to do a presentation, then it's already too late at that age to undo all that damage inflicted by the useless, neglectful parents at that stage! Unfortunately, many parents do not realize how important early education is.
This is what really pisses me off about the way some Singaporean parents think - they expect some element of the state to take over and perform vital parenting tasks on their behalf. I have encountered a similar attitude when looking at the issue of national service, where many parents imagine that NS will sort their sons out, make them grow up, make them more mature and responsible - when really, if you have brought up a son who is childish, immature and irresponsible, can you seriously expect the SAF to perform miracles after you've been a totally shit parent and failed to do your duty as a parent to bring up your child properly? If you have neglected your duties as a parent for the first 18 years of your son's life, don't expect the SAF to wave a magic wand and somehow rectify all the flaws in your son's character because that is not going to happen. No, it is already too late at that stage.
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| Some Singaporean parents expect NS to perform miracles with their sons. |
By the same token, if you want your child to grow up with enough self-confidence to stand up in front of a group of strangers and deliver a presentation eloquently and confidently, then you have to start from the time the baby is 12 to 18 months old and continue nurturing that young mind for at least the next two decades. Don't expect a university course to do that on your behalf - this is definitely the parents' responsibility and it pisses me off so much that LBS's relatives (and many other Singaporean parents) have failed to recognize that.
5. Employers always test their job applicants thoroughly, rather than just look at CVs.
I have been in a position of the 'gatekeeper' both in my current company and in my previous company - let me tell you what the gatekeeper does. Say if someone is applying for a job with the company and they claim to have an expertise in a certain area, I would verify that and see if they are lying. I take my job of a gatekeeper very seriously and if someone is exaggerating any aspect of their CV, I will catch them out. So if they claim to have dealt with funds of hedge funds in their previous job, I would ask them many detailed questions about funds of hedge funds to see if they really know the subject matter well. Nothing, absolutely nothing escapes the gatekeeper's attention.
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Such is the nature of the job interview. It is brutal and if you get a mean gatekeeper like me, it's not just brutal, it can be downright cruel. It is like going before Simon Cowell and claiming, "Simon, I can sing really well, I have what it takes to become a superstar." He's going to reply, "okay, go ahead and prove it to me. Sing." So if someone claims to know how to "present" and can "speak confidently", I would put them on the spot and expect them to prove it. So if some young graduate claims that he can "present and speak confidently", I would say to him/her, "so you went to NUS and studied political science. In two minutes flat, I want you to convince me why I should send my nephew to NUS to do the same course that you did - give me a quick presentation. By the end of those two minutes, if I am not convinced, then you have failed. Do you understand? Good. You now have exactly two minutes to impress me and prove yourself."
And if they're rubbish, I could be as cruel as Simon Cowell. Now I've never had any of the interviews I've conducted filmed - but here's Simon Cowell to give you a taste of how gatekeepers will react with some job applicants who are just plain rubbish. Oh yeah, beware of us gatekeepers. Now watch the clip below and have a good laugh.
A smaller company may just use a gatekeeper like me to weed out the jokers from the serious applicants to be considered - much bigger companies will have far more detailed procedures, interviews and psychometric tests that will evaluate every aspect of your faculties, especially soft skills. I think the most stressful one I ever did was in Geneva back in 2000 when I applied to join an NGO (and failed) - it was a two day long bilingual boot camp in French and English and gosh, they did everything they could to try to crack me in those two days (and I did crack once under pressure - which was probably why I didn't get the job in the end, quelle dommage mais c'est la vie). The bigger the company, the more resources they will have to test candidates to make sure they employ only the best talent.
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6. An example of such a communication test
Let me give you an example of one such exercise that is often used to evaluate the ability of a candidate to express himself and present a case confidently. This test would involve the candidates being shown ten different T-shirts. Now working in a group of about five or six, the group has to decide which T-shirt would sell the most at a market stall in a popular mall in town. There is no "right answer" - the purpose of the task is to simply see how you communicate and function within a group, how you can convince the other members of the group that your choice is right.
You will be watched carefully to see how you put your ideas across to others - are you convincing? Can you get the others to listen to you? Are you listening to what the others are saying and responding accordingly? Are you shouting or being ignored? Then once you have reached an agreement as a group, you will then have to explain why you have reached that conclusion. It seems like an easy enough task, but you'll be amazed how many people are unable to communicate effectively in a challenge like that. A short exercise like that (which can take as little as 10 to 15 minutes) can tell me so much about the individual's ability to communicate.
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7. You can train ten people but will all ten people be equally competent?
Here's another aspect of training - you can put the same ten people through the same course but you won't get the same results within that group. I remember at university, everyone had to do a compulsory statistics course. I breezed through it easily as I am good with numbers and to be fair, it really wasn't that difficult, just the standard quantitative analysis that any first year undergraduate is expected to master. There were two girls on the same course who just couldn't get their heads around that module though - I had to sit down and help them through the course work and they really struggled. With my help, they eventually managed to pass the module but only just!
I have been on so many courses over the years where some people do well and others don't - there's always the person who scores full marks and the person who barely scrapes through. So with that in mind, no gatekeeper would make any assumptions about what a university has successfully trained the graduate to do. Would you assume that everyone who has a driver's license is an equally good driver? No, some drivers are excellent whilst others are not - so if I were to hire someone specifically for their driving skills, I would always make sure I put them through a thorough test rather than just checking if they have a valid license.
Being able to present a case confidently (be it a sales pitch or a case before a jury) is about being persuasive and eloquent: this is a huge asset in the business world - it means being able to get what you want, whether it is whilst trying to close a deal with an important client or convincing your boss to give you that promotion that you deserve. Let's get real here. A university cannot teach you how to become persuasive and eloquent - there are so many factors involved here. I've already talked about being a good listener - but you also need charisma. If people like you, then they are likely to want to listen to you. If you give them a bad impression from the start, then you're not going to get them to give you what you want. Oh yeah, first impressions count in the business world!
Let me give you an example. I went to meet the publisher of a magazine about finance in London earlier year when my company was going to launch a new product . We were considering possibly advertising with his magazine. When I met this publisher, he didn't ask me how I was, if I wanted a drink or what my company's plans were with this new product. Instead, he was like a machine gun: he went on and on and on about his magazine's circulation, his magazine's history, why so many big companies have advertised with his magazine and what my options were in terms of advertising in the next issue. He was eloquent, articulate, he presented his case very clearly and spoke confidently.
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And I hated him. He was an arrogant asshole, I couldn't wait to get the hell out of that meeting. Needless to say, I said no to advertising with his magazine simply because I found him so repulsive. He was so full of himself and he made no effort to try to show any interest in me or my needs. So you see, it takes a lot more than being eloquent to do well in business - you need to charm people and this publisher had no charisma to speak of. Humour is a great way to get people to like you, if you can be funny and entertaining, if you can make them laugh, then they will enjoy being in your company. And of course, if you're handsome/beautiful, then congratulations, many people will instantly like you because they are that shallow and we live in a shallow world. There are so many other factors as well, such as dressing right to convey the right kind of corporate image in the working world - that is something I have covered last year.
Okay LBS, so that's 8 reasons why I feel your relatives' advice was so wrong on so many levels. I know they mean well and are only trying to help, but good grief, with no disrespect to your relatives, they don't know shit, they have no clue what the hell they are talking about. So kids, be careful whose advice you take in life - just because they care about you doesn't mean they have a clue what the hell they're talking about. If you have any questions on the issue, please feel free to leave me a comment below and I'll see what I can do to help.
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Thank you for your excellence advice for me. Almost all my relatives are in the civil service which I guess is the reason why they told me to get a business degree. Does the gatekeeper really doesn't care about any of the programmes I have done previously in school? I don't know why but everyone including my teachers care about "certificates" a lot, etc I once went to a mediation workshop and was presented a certificate of participation. The teacher later then dissed everyone who did not attend and say how much I am gonna get valued over all my classmates because of the certificate I got from a one-day workshop and how the title "class secretary" is going to benefit me in the long run. Yup I agree that a certificate isn't going to prove my personality because frankly speaking I did not learn much from it! I am still a very bad mediator as I was before the workshop. I am completely clueless on how I should managed the class when we are voting for the colors for our class t-shirt. If I were to choose the color for the class, I would be accused of being biased. If I were to let the class the class decide, at least 50% of the class will object to the color and the process starts over again.
ReplyDeleteI guess I have really believed in them about the value of certificates that I have 25 of them. It is not a huge figure but I feel that they have taken out a lot of my time going for workshops, talks, competitions, etc. Should I show my future interviewer my certificates to "show that I at least have a life outside of school"? Or should I just keep and do not show it at all?
Hi again LBS. I will write you a longer reply later in the form of a blog post. But here are some bullet points.
Delete1. Those in the civil service are shielded from the brutal realities of the harsh working world.
2. Your teacher is talking bullshit about certificates. Nobody gives a shit.
3. My parents were teachers too (now retired) and they have no freaking clue what the hell goes on in the real world beyond the school gates - do not expect your teachers to give you any kind of useful career advice.
4. Your teachers have a ridiculous, exaggerated sense of self-importance. If they told you, "nobody in the real world gives a shit about your certificates", then you won't respect or fear your teachers. If they convince you that "these certificates are the most important things in your life!", then you will take the certificate more seriously (thus making the teacher's task a bit easier as you are co-operating). Your teacher is lying, basically.
5. As a gatekeeper, if I want to know if you can mediate, I wouldn't look at some ridiculous, bullshit, stupid, lameass certificate from some school somewhere - like, hello? Get real. I will test you myself and see for myself how well you function in a simple task like that "choosing the T-shirt" group discussion task.
6. Don't you get it LBS? Gatekeepers don't give a shit about certificates - they are useless, they are meaningless, they are worthless (tell you teacher you go fly a kite). Gatekeepers test everything they need to know themselves - any kind of titles like "class secretary" are totally meaningless to us in the bigger scheme of things. Sorry if this sounds brutal - but the working world is really that brutal. If you have represented Singapore at the Olympics, then I would sit up and go "oh yes I am impressed." If you expect me to be impressed because you were class secretary, I'm just going laugh my fat ass off - what were you expecting LBS? You wanted to go work for the great Warren Fernandez at SPH and you think it is so easy to impress him? Hello - it's time you woke up and realized just how high you have to aim in order to make your dreams come true, you have to aim to go to Oxford on an SPH scholarship for example if you want to stand a chance. I think you seriously need to re-evaluate your ambitions!!
7. Spare yourself the humiliation of the certificates. A kind gatekeeper would at best ignore them. A cruel gatekeeper like me would use it as evidence to dismiss you as a credible candidate - ie. the fact that you wasted your time on these useless crap proves that you know nothing about what is valued in the real world.
8. I am very sorry if my bullet points above are brutal and cruel but I wanted to be honest. I grew up in an environment (remember both my parents were teachers) were I was fed so much misleading, useless, wrong information and like you, I wasted so much time doing crap that was useless. I was there LBS, just like you. And thankfully, there were other things that I stumbled upon quite by accident that have served me well in the working world and believe you me, there's a part of me that wants to sit down with my parents and say, "you remember what you told me when I was 12? Well that was rubbish and false. You remember what you said when I was 16? That was completely wrong too! etc" But what is the point of that? Did my parents set out to deliberately sabotage me with misleading and wrong information? No. They're just really ignorant people who knew absolutely nothing about the real world beyond the school gates where they worked and in hindsight they should have merely said, "I don't know, maybe you can ask your auntie who works in the real world and knows something about the real world - why don't we call her tonight?" rather than anyhow hantam and give wrong info.
DeleteThat is why I am so keen to help you now LBS. I don't know you, but I can totally relate to what you're going through right now cos I was there myself when I was your age.
For further reading: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/finding-that-ideal-job.html
DeleteEven though that was written way back in 2011, that article does cover a lot of the points I wanted to convey to you.
Also: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/facing-up-to-cheaper-foreign.html
So with that in mind, I will not be writing a brand new post for you on the issue of your certificates, I've already had that rant - ie. your teachers are ignorant and don't know shit, don't listen to your teachers, don't go to them for career advice, they have no clue about the real world beyond the school gates and they will never survive in the real world after so long in the protected environment of the school. I've made my point, I've already disrespected the teachers (and probably offended a lot of them), so do have a read of those two other articles and if you have other questions about what you should do in order to prove yourself outside your studies gimme a shout. Is there a sport you're good at (I mean good enough to be on the national team and represent your country?) - do you have a part time job? Do you do any charity work?
I am not a person good at sports. I have done charity work in during my school life (btw it is compulsory) and I currently do not have a part time job. I had one before which is working at a hospital which is basically picking up phone calls and admin work.
ReplyDeleteWhat should i do outside of school that can help me in the future? I totally have no idea at all.
Well LBS, you need to find something that will make a gatekeeper like me sit up and say, "woah, she is amazing, look what she has done!" I'm afraid uncle Limpeh can't tell you exactly what you should do - this is something you have to figure out for yourself LBS.
DeleteYou need to find something you are passionate about - what is your passion? What makes you excited, happy and motivates you LBS? After all, you can't become outstanding in something unless you're full of passion about it and there has got to be that one thing in your life that gets you excited, that puts a big smile on your face. Use that passion to do something truly amazing, so you will have fun in the process.
You don't pick your passion - it's just there. You don't have to pick it - it's staring at you in the face. When I was a child, my mother forced me through all the grades of piano and I was bludgeoned through years of lessons with no passion - I was just scared of a really fierce piano teacher who protected her financial interests by telling my mother that I had a gift for piano, so my mother would keep paying for more and more lessons. I have no doubt that I must've been okay at it (otherwise I would have failed all the exams - but I did get through them), but my number one passion was gymnastics. I am 37 and still train like a few times a week just to be in that environment and that has been my number 1 love since I was like 6 years old. I had every opportunity to turn it into a career via coaching but I chose not to go down that path - but at least my record in competitive sports (3 time national champion) has impressed every single employer I've had who take it as a testament to my tenacity, my ability to work hard, learn new skills, perform under pressure.
I couldn't have used my piano skills to demonstrate anything as I had absolutely no passion for piano - since my last piano exam, I didn't touch a piano once (despite the fact that I obviously had learnt it to a very high standard) as I had no interest, no passion in it - but even when I am having a busy day at work, I would take time out to watch gymnastics clips on youtube.
You must have a passion in your life. Tell me what it is. It must be so obvious but you're just not making the connection as to how you can use it to help you in the future.
Why are you so worried about what you cannot see!
DeleteWhile it is possible for opportunities to be "created" by one's self, more often than not, opportunities do literally drop from the skies or are already in front of you in various guises. Your duty then, is to watch your surroundings closely and position yourself to pounce on them. Not try to "create" them, nor watch passively!
Do something that excites you, that makes you hunger for more. Do something you can talk about passionately and stop doing things for the sake of "shoring up" your resume. Life is not only too short for enslaving yourself to too much worries, but the "gate-keeper" can tell if you are of genuine substance if you do these things to LEARN.
Learning is so important. Having been a part-time tutor as undergrad for my entire 4 years, I am disappointed to see that so many of this generation view learning as some kind of chore, to be discarded after the formative years. Granted, it might not be their fault, but who cares? Whose life is being ruined with such an attitude? Yours! So it is up to YOU to break out of that to appreciate life and work more.
I dont believe in trying my damnest to contrive a "brilliant" resume. If you look at mine, it is nothing spectacular. But, over my 7 vacations in my undergrad days, I have gone to work with 7 different employers of various industries. I was an admin asst twice (bleah), tutor at a tuition centre (more challenging than private tuition), debt collector (!!!), intern at Grameen Bank (at Bangladesh), field surveyor (had doors slammed in my face etc), intern at the current organisation I am at.
The interviewer took a look at my resume and raised his eyebrow. And the rest of the interview was then guided by my varied experience and I could tell many stories for the panel to hear that were probably new to them. In the end, I got the job even though I wasnt tested on the hard skills. Why? Because I have demonstrated that even if I lack some pre-requisite computing skills, I more than make up for it by my proven tendency to put myself in unusual situations to learn and excel.
LBS, why do you think I am typing such a long-winded comment to you like an uncle?
It is to demonstrate to you what I said! That opportunities are not merely "created" by you!
Did you honestly think that I had my career in my mind, when I became a legal ah-long, went house-to-house for survey as a govt agent, sacrificed my better-paying private tuition to become a tutor at a centre for shit pay, put myself through bouts of diarrhea at Bangladesh (oh but the Banglas were awesome company)?
No! Of course not. Yet, these were precisely the reasons nonetheless why I secured my job with only one attempt at a single organisation. Because I learnt to pool these non-tangible resources that I had on hand to convince my employer that I am a huge asset to them. Period!
P.S: How did I know the reasons why I was hired? Because I made friends within the organisation during my short stay. Having soft skills pay.
I enjoy writing fictional stories. Whenever I encounter someone or something, I would put myself in that person's shoes and create possible reasons why they did they make that choice based on some facts and my experiences. To give an example, I once read about a $4500 nanny/driver job at Sentosa Cove for singaporeans. I was quite surprised by the huge pay wage when they actually get a foreign maid who can be cheaper and take a cab every morning. Then I thought of a theory that the child's mum is killed in a car accident overseas. The father, being a devoted parent do not want his daughter to grow up without a mother decided to hire a someone to take place of the mother and to be able to give his kid a complete family without the risk of taking another wife because there's a risk of the stepmother mistreating his daughter or getting a divorce, so giving someone a paycheck every month keeps them under control.
ReplyDeleteThis sounds really wild but I think it would make a really good story plot because it is kinda based on social issues. From what I am reading online, many guys do not want to get marry because of the woman charter and how it favors the woman more than the man, often giving more than 50% of the guy's assets and the children to the woman if the marriage breaks down. So if the guy is smart and rich enough, he would not have marry another person but instead pay someone to take a good care of his daughter for a high paycheck, and hiring a Singaporean would be an advantage because the employer do not need to apply any visa for the nanny and they have a higher chance of picking someone who is similar to them in race, culture, religion, skin color etc..
Btw, the $4500 requires you to stay in the house at sentosa cove, which makes it really sound like being a mother and being with the kid 24/7 which is the main inspiration for the story.
This sounds exactly like an on-going project on the BBC radio 4 (a serious radio station for news and analysis, music free station). They call it "From Fact To Fiction" - they take a current event that is in the news every week and then they turn it into a radio play and retell the story from the point of view of a "person" who experienced the story. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007lld4
DeleteSo yeah, there are people who do this for a living and get paid a lot of money. I've done contracts with BBC radio 4 before http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/from-manchester-with-love.html and it's great fun and good money.
So you see, there are loads of things like that which you are already capable of doing - I can tell from the way you write that you're clearly an intelligent person, but you're struggling to make that connection and prove your brilliance to the world.
Here's the bummer, I have not lived in Singapore since 1997 and have no lobang for you in terms of trying to find someone to introduce you to and prove your creativity. You need to make a list of local radio stations, TV stations, magazines, websites etc - who will be an outlet for your writing and approach the editors and offer this concept as a regular slot for a trial period (of a few weeks/months) and you offer it for free. Hopefully, somebody would look at your offering and say, "go ahead young person, here's young chance to prove yourself - impress me with your writing."
Have a look at the BBC From Fact To Fiction page for further reading.
If you can pull this off, it demonstrates initiative: here's a young student who's obviously talented but not content to sit back and do nothing, it shows you're proactive and you'll be employing all the business development skills that these business-studies courses at university only preach about, but you're already doing it out there in the real world!!
Thanks Limpeh and btw, happy 2014! :D
DeleteAny other passions in your life? Apart from writing? Speaking of which have to ever thought of writing a blog? It's a simple way to test the effectiveness of your writing. I have had over 5.3 million views on my blog - some posts go viral and thousands of people read it within days of me posting it, then I have some lame posts which barely get 100 to 200 views (my review of the top 10 Kpop singles of 2013 has 143 views so far, whooopee, I get the hint, my readers are not interested in Kpop). It's an easy way to put your writing to the test, to see if people really do want to read what you have to write.
DeleteI did start a blog a few months ago but i shut it down because my parents told me not to "scold" to government.
DeleteMy sister found out about my blog and I am getting blackmailed over it and she told my parents over it, so I am getting hell over it. Starting it now is pretty risky and I do not want to face my parents nagging me all day long about scolding the government. (Lol)
Hi LBS, firstly, your sister sucks. I'm sorry we don't get to pick our siblings, it is a pretty low thing for her to do. I only hope she's doing it because she is immature and childish and one day she may grow up - if such behaviour persists, then you simply will grow up without being close to her. My parents both have siblings like that - my mother is a glutton for punishment, she has one brother who treats her like shit and she has allowed herself to be treated like shit for decades. I've said things like, "if he dares shows his face at the house at AMK when I am in, I will beat him up." But, I live in London and only visit occasionally With siblings like that, who needs enemies? Then you have my father who has a brother he has totally fallen out with (long story for another day) - and they have not spoken since the 1980s. It's better that way, when you compare it to the way my mother ALLOWS herself to be treated so badly by her younger brother. Don't get me started. My mother is not just kinda stupid, she is stubborn and insists on allowing herself to be treated and abused by her brother like that.
DeleteI am wondering which stance you will take: my dad's stance or my mum's stance when it comes to siblings like that?
Anyway, I have blogged a lot about Singaporean politics here and I rarely "scold" the government per se (I do single out individuals when they do something exceptionally stupid) - rather, I scold people like your parents who are ignorant about politics. Singapore is what it is, the way it is, because of people like your parents being a part of this process, creating this situation.
Anyway, for further reading (well more for your parents than you) but anyway: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/interview-part-2.html It will tell you just how wrong your parents are on the issue - it's not going to change anything of course, it'll just help put things in context. Remember to acknowledge the huge generation gap, it's a lot bigger than you think.
And if you don't blog - it's no big deal. It's not easy to hit a home run with blogging, ie. a blog post that generates 100,000 views instead of 100. You could spend a lot of time and effort writing for very few people. You're probably better off looking for a decent part time job to demonstrate your range of soft skills that gatekeepers are looking for.
DeleteI think I will take your father's stance. After all if we can't get along well it's best to go different ways and live our lives.
ReplyDeleteI can't really talk about anything that doesn't involved "scolding the govt." , at least according to my parents. Like if I want to write about students cutting themselves, which leads to blaming the education system which is scolding the government.
Self harm seems to be pretty trendy among students nowadays. I know a guy who cuts himself over academic issues and we even had a discussion over how to avoid infection during self harm like not using a rusty blade etc. This seems to be a huge issue because even my teacher brought it up in class, she said something like, "if u cut yourself deep enough the general office will have to waste their blood bank on you." Er for your info I do not practice self harm but I know plenty of people who do. I really want to blame the government, the school and our culture for this. Crazy culture that spends so much money for things like tuition and assessment books and a place where your grades is a measure of your worth. I really experience it before during PSLE that if I go to the NT stream, I will kill myself by jumping off the third floor of the school building. The fear of NT was drilled in my head and I am really terrified of the so called "NT gangsters" who smoke drink fight and do drugs. I also happened to be failing almost all of my exams that year, hence my anxiety. The good news is that I manage to get into the express stream so I didn't kill myself. It came as a really huge surprise for me and my teachers who think I am going to repeat anyway.
You'll be amazed how much we learn about diplomacy from a young age like that - believe me, when you get into the working world, you will encounter colleagues you hate but have to work with, you will then learn to keep your friends close and enemies closer just for survival. Right now, you have to learn to get along with your sister whether you like her or not.
DeleteAs for the issue of blame, that's something we can talk about for ages and I am rather busy now (got myself involved in a language project and have a 5 day deadline - yikes), but I have two principles I stand by. Firstly, I refuse to play the part of the victim regardless of the circumstances because a victim just surrenders control over the situation and blames everyone else whereas I always try to see what I can do about the situation to improve it. Secondly, blame is such a complex issue that most people tend to reduce it to a boogeyman - so in blaming the government, you're ignoring other people who contribute to the problem, such as your teachers and parents. Now it's easy to single out the government to blame, but what about less obvious targets like parents and teachers who reinforce the government's messages? In recognizing the complexity of blame and how it should be shared, it will give you greater insight into the situation and bring you closer to a solution. Simplifying it to a boogeyman only obscures your understanding of the situation and prevents you from any deeper insight.
I do realized that it's our culture to blame. Singapore just like South Korea where people place so much importance on academics that we have more school after school and people just mug like crazy. There are even cases of students killing themselves over PSLE maths paper ._. I am able to put myself in their shoes because of the constant "propaganda" by my teachers of failing (when actually very little do) and maybe some problems at home.
DeleteBlaming the govt is really short-sighted of me. After all they were never by my side during PSLE and rather it's my family and school. They are really the one giving me hell during P6, like telling me that I don't look stress, why do I deserve fun time when I am doing so badly in my studies. And I remember the one that hurts me the most is that my teacher compared me to the rotten apple in the box and remarked that no matter how tight is the quality control there will always be rotten apples. Ouch. Maybe they hate me for pulling down the "good grades" of the class. But when the PSLE results came, it's really surprising that I managed to score better than those who the teachers favor so much and I am not the one who falls to the normal stream even though I didn't even study anything at all for my PSLE.
(I was thinking about the jobs I can do then because I really wanted to quit school. Instead of studying, I just admitted defeat and started flipping the newspaper for jobs I can do without secondary school education so that I can keep my optimism up because I am too scared to end my life then.)
Well LBS, I realize you're angry (and believe you me, I spent a lot of my younger years being angry with a lot of people) - but it is necessary to be very calm and rational when you analyse whom is to be blamed for the bad things that have happened to you. For example, it is clear that you have been let down by one teacher in particular, by all means blame that teacher - but then for you to be against the system or against the government as a result of that bad experience, it is not a particularly useful or accurate connection to make.
DeleteFor example, if primary school kids are killing themselves over PSLE - the first people I would blame would be the parents because the buck stops there in terms of responsibility. The government, the MOE or the teachers have their role to play, but the buck stops with the parents so it is important to know where to appropriate the blame.
This reminds me of an exercise that gatekeepers like to run to test candidates - you're given a situation where you have to decide who is to be blamed. Let me try one on you: a baby is found dead after a mother goes to work, leaving the baby at home with her 14 year old daughter. The daughter was supposed to keep an eye on the baby, but the daughter was studying for an exam at school and her teacher had threatened her that if she did not pass this exam, she would be kicked out of the school. The baby crawled out of the bedroom into the backyard, where it was attacked by the neighbour's new dog and died as a result.The neighbour allowed the dog to roam around and wasn't expecting the dog to encounter a defenseless baby. The neighbour had no idea the dog was this dangerous - the man at the pet store who sold the neighbour the dog failed to inform the neighbour that the dog had been traumatized as a puppy and hence has a tendency to be aggressive, he was afraid that such a piece of information may make the sale fall through. When the ambulance arrived at the scene, the medics found that the baby could have been saved if the alarm was raised earlier - but since neither the dog owner nor the daughter notice the attack, it was too late to save the baby.
So, place in order of "most responsible" to "least responsible" the following individuals in that story:
- the mother (for leaving the baby in the care of a 14 year old girl)
- the daughter (for not keeping an eye on the baby, or raising the alarm soon enough)
- the neighbour (for not keeping an eye on his new dog, or raising the alarm after the attack)
- the pet shop owner (for withholding information about the dog's nature)
- the daughter's teacher (for causing her unnecessary stress over the exam)
- the dog (for actually killing the baby)
You see, everyone in the story is guilty and responsible to a different extent - but who is more guilty, who is less guilty? Such is the complexities of life and you need to deal with issues like that to make sense of the world around you.
1) Pet shop owner
ReplyDelete-I believe that this person is probably the most guilty in this case. If he had properly told thd buyer that the dog is aggressive so that the buyer can be better prepared in case he needs to stop the dog from attacking anybody.
2) Mother
-Children are unable to take care of children because they are children themselves. I don't think a 14 year old is not mature enough to be like a mother and take care of a baby.
3) Daughter
-She neglected the baby safety and should have keep an eye on it. And maybe to keep the door closed so that the baby wouldn't have wander out so far.
4) Neighbor
-I don't believe in locking up animals but as a responsible pet owner, I should keep an eye on my pet in case he attacks small animals like cats or even human babies.
5) Dog
- I don't think the dog knew what he's doing hence the attack. I do not really want to blame the dog for the attack because the owner had probably not teach him from the right to the wrong and not to attack small animals.
6) Teacher
-I do not know why the teacher is on the list because I know that teacher just wants the best for her students. She's there to teach her students and help them to excel in studies.
There you go - there's no 'right answer' to this exercise but it's meant to show you how in any one situation, there are a range of people who have some extent of responsibility and some people are more guilty/responsible than others. So the next time you find yourself in a situation where you get angry with the government, take a step back and treat it like this "blame exercise" and see if you can identify 5 or 6 different parties involved and see how the blame should be appropriated. You'll be amazed how that helps you gain a perspective on the complexity of the situation.
DeletePS. Nice analysis. My order would have been different, but hey, there are no right/wrong answers and as long as you know how to present your thinking clearly, you've done well int the exercise :)
Hmm what's your order? It would be very interesting for me to know it from your perspective.
ReplyDeletebtw which scholarship did you take in the UK?
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to add to Limpeh's commentary that academics is not the be it or end it all. No doubt it is most important to a degree - because it is just a means to an end; yes a foot in the door in the working world but it should not define who you are AS A PERSON. I was never one of the top students in class but I ensured that I made myself happy by doing my best in every exam I took and trying to excel in subjects I was good or passionate about. As long as I was satisfied that I had done my very best, that was good enough for me. Despite scoring a string of 'As' in my O-levels, I pursued a diploma in hotel management at poly as I realised I stood no chance of going into local uni (This was the late 1990s and my second language was my weakest subject - scoring D and Es - and hell no I was not going to keep taking exams repeatedly just to score a pass in my MT in other words, even if I scored As in all my other subjects, the doors to local unis would remain firmly shut because of one stupid subject - I was not going to waste my time at JC). I am highly academic in nature (yikes I now write four to five 15k market research reports as a living) and a JC would have suited me infinitely better (would have loved to have taken economics, history and literature) but the education system was dead set against me. So, I graduated with my diploma and went out straight to work before saving enough dosh to do a one year top-up degree in the UK. I had my sis there to put me up so I did have to fork out for accommodation. But I worked 20 hours a week at Starbucks in London. I ended up being only one of two who graduated with First Class Honours from the course. Soon after, I got a job offer from my old company based in Singapore to set up an office in London; subsequently, I met my boyfriend who became my hubby. I then began working for a UK market research outfit and have been there eversince. I love what I do. Like you, I have a passion for writing and now, I freelance for other companies and publications too. So, although I took an unconventional route, I am happy with my lot and how my career turned out. Now, I am starting a new venture in another passion of mine - natural health. My best buddy at poly is another success story - he came from a neighbourhood school. But he's now a millionaire - all because he pursued his passion - to become a make-up artist - and worked his way up (he used to practice on me). He now one of the top stylists in Hong Kong (Google his name Alvin Goh - he has worked for Vogue, Harpers Bazaar etc) - all because he believed in himself, did not listen to naysayers and worked blady hard.
ReplyDeleteI think the mentality that studying = means to find job and apply the knowledge, is quite sad.
ReplyDeleteHaving worked in Bangla for a period of time made me realise studying is such a privilege!
If studying = just theory and no application whatsoever in future work, why cant people study then for the theory, and then educate themselves on the "real world" by dipping their toes in there where possible, instead of expecting the uni to "teach" them?
Exactly. I can't agree more. But Singaporeans are so spoon-fed when it comes to having everything laid out for them by their pushy parents their expectations are warped.
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ReplyDeleteI have recently finished my first year in NUS as a chemistry student and also chanced upon your posts on degrees and university courses. I feel that the emphasis on grades here are really heavy and the expectations are quite ridiculous. I've gotten straight B for my modules and my GPA is a 3.4/5. However people say that it's a poor score and adults and other students have said my chances of landing a good job is very low due to my poor gpa and useless course (chemistry). However I feel that that's not the case as I have performed well when working as a temp staff during my vacations. What are you views on this?
Hi there - thanks for your comment. Clearly you've been given very bad advice by people who don't have a clue what the hell they're talking about. I will do a full length blog post on this to do this topic justice for you. Please be patient and bear with me as I deal with this for you, in the meantime, please be very careful whose advice you take as you may have seemingly kind people who are trying to help you by giving you advice but clearly, in this case, they don't have a clue what the hell they're talking about.
DeleteFor you: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/q-chemistry-degree-nus.html
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