Friday, 14 December 2012

Rohingya Refugees exposing the lies of the PAP

Okay, yesterday's article was full of fucking, swearing and name calling - let me try to do another piece in a more calm manner and try to get the heart of the issue of why it is so wrong for the Singaporean authorities to have turned away the Vietnamese vessel carrying 40 Rohingya refugees yesterday. Quite simply, refugees are not economic migrants. There will still be plenty of swearing in this article as normal service has not resumed yet, I'm still in "LIMPEH SIBEH BUAY SONG" (I'm fucking pissed off) mode.

Let's focus on the Rohingya Muslims to begin with. They number approximately 800,000 in Myanmar and are an ethnic minority there - Myanmar is mostly a Buddhist country and as Muslims and an ethnic minority, they have always faced oppression by the regime there. They are effectively stateless - denied Myanmar citizenship despite having always lived in Myanmar. This has something that has been going on for many decades and the world has always focussed on Myanmar's other problems, such as the lack of political freedom and the imprisonment of Aung Sung Suu Kyi.
Given how complex the situation is in Myanmar, the rest of the world has always taken a very simplistic view that is is an oppressive regime vs the people; whilst conveniently ignoring the issue of Rohingya oppression in Myanmar. This current outflow of refugees have been sparked off as a result of the 2012 Rakhine State riots. A Buddhist woman in Rakhine state was raped and murdered - it was suspected that the rapist and murderer might be a Muslim, but the investigations never got that far. Mob violence took over - whole villages were torched, Muslims were raped, tortured and killed by he Buddhists. (So much for Buddhism being a peace loving religion.)

In total, just in 2012 alone, over 100,000 Rohingya Muslims have been displaced because of the torching of Rohingya Muslim villages and figures for deaths are estimated to be about 730 with a further 1200 missing (presumed dead). The Burmese state has done little to quell the violence and neighbouring Bangladesh (a Muslim country at that) has closed its borders to fleeing Rohingya refugees because they are fearing a deluge of refugees crossing over the border and not being able to cope. Thailand has a very similar stance to Bangladesh for the same reason.
The one country that has shown compassion to the plight of the Rohingya is Malaysia. However, this means a very treacherous boat journey in vessels which are not designed for such long journeys to get from Myanmar (or Bangladesh - many refugees have to go via Bangladesh as that is the route the people smugglers use) to Malaysia. These refugees know they are not welcomed in most places - that is why they are risking their lives to get to Malaysia, knowing that if they stayed in Myanmar, they risk being killed by the Buddhists. The boat which these 40 refugees were on originally sank in the Bay of Bengal. About 250 people were packed on the Bangladesh registered vessel 'the Nagu', it was overloaded by greedy people traffickers. Most of the passengers drowned and the survivors spent 30 hours in the sea before being picked up by the Vietnamese vessel 'Nosco Victory'. A further 9 survivors were picked up by another ship the Liberian registered X-Press Hoogly. Amongst these 40 survivors, many of them would have had a family member on that boat who has drowned. They have nothing left on them and are in such a desperate state.

The captain of the ship chose to stay on his course to Singapore, where the ship was headed. The refugees they picked up had no say in where the ship was headed - it was not their decision. It was not like getting a lift from a friend who asks you, "so, where can I drop you off? Where would you like to go now?" The Nosco Victory is a cargo ship - it has to get goods from port A to port B on a schedule and the captain is answerable to his employers when it comes to keeping to a tight schedule, delivering the goods on time.
I ask you for mercy. I ask you to show compassion to those 40 refugees. I ask you to find it in your heart to find some humanity left you Singaporeans - you and your obsession with shopping and eating on Orchard Road, you are willing to spend all that money on yourselves- yet when it comes to showing a bit of mercy to these 40 refugees who came so close to death and have absolutely nothing left, not even their dignity. No, you don't want to help. You're not emotionless, you're simply not human. Any decent human being would have the basic decency, the very basic shred of humanity to want to help people in this situation - this humanity is what makes us humans and not beasts.

But no Singapore, you're beasts. You're not human. You have no humanity. You lack the very basic humanity which defines us as a civilized society - yes you have sky scrapers and shopping malls, you have Orchard Road and Marina Bay Sands but you don't even have basic humanity. That's fucking tragic. Money can't buy you humanity, it is a trait you are born with but somehow, the PAP has managed to genetically engineer a generation of Singaporeans who lack that basic humanity and support their heartless stance on these 40 refugees.
I want to clarify two misconceptions about refugees. Firstly, it is often the poorest countries in the world (not the richest) who take on the greatest burdens when it comes to refugees. It's crazy to think that the poorest countries are taking such a big share of the burden whilst richer countries stand back and do nothing - it's a shocking lack of humanity. Take a recent crisis in Africa -the war in Darfur, in the west of Sudan. This is a war that started in 2003 February and is still going on today. The vast majority of the refugees displaced as a result of the war in Darfur went to neighbouring African countries like Chad, Uganda, Ethiopia and Kenya. Only a very small number with the resources to escape managed to find their way to richer countries in the West - many were only able to get as far as they could be foot to neighbouring countries. Now countries like Chad and Ethiopia are amongst the poorest in the world - yet they have the humanity to show mercy and compassion to these refugees who show up at their borders, fleeing war and death in their own country. It takes a lot of money to buy a plane ticket or pay a human smuggler to get a refugee to a rich country like Australia or America - it is simply not an option open to the majority of refugees. These African countries are capable of showing such compassion and humanity - they truly put Singapore to shame!

Secondly, many refugees are not uneducated people who will become a burden on the host nation. In act, many are educated, have productive jobs and want nothing more than to be able to get a job, work hard and get some kind of normality back to their lives in their new country. They are not expecting hand outs, they are not expecting sympathy - they just want a chance to settle in a new country, where they can start a new life in peace. Many of them are indeed professionals who do bring with them plenty of skills that will enable them to become economically productive within a short period of resettling in a new country. Remember, these are people forced to flee their countries because of a very real threat to their lives - these are not economic migrants looking for a better future. By that token, yes there are some extremely highly educated and talented refugees - Charles Saatchi, Anish Kapoor, Lucian Freud, Michael Marks (founder of Marks & Spencers), Gloria Estefan, Mika, Wyclef Jean, Freddie Mercury, Karl Marx, Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Anne Frank, Joseph Conrad, Omid Djalili - need I go on?
These Rohingya Muslims were not shopping around for a nice country to go to - they are not foreign workers who are working in Singapore as bus driver, maids or construction workers. They are not coming to Singapore to steal your jobs you insecure Singaporean. These are desperate people who have come so close to death so many times and are desperate to stay alive. Can you tell the difference between a refugee and a foreign worker?

It is bad enough when so many idiotic Singaporeans are too stupid realize that the only reason there are too many foreign workers in Singapore is because the PAP keeps importing more - yet you people keep voting for the PAP? You keep voting for the PAP, you will keep on getting more foreign workers. You don't want more foreign workers - then don't vote for the PAP! But regardless of your political affiliation, we're all human and have a collective responsibility to show humanity, compassion and mercy to other human beings. This compassion shouldn't depend on your ethnicity, religion, political affiliation, nationality or anything at all - it should depend solely on your humanity.

Instead of directing your anger at the PAP, you want to direct you anger not just at foreign workers but these 40 Rohingya refugees? Fucking hell, I say, I hope people like Sharon Chia, Leon Chow, John Chen, Justin Tang, Frankie Png, Pow Liang Wei and Siow Jia Rui - yes the lot of you, I hope you get hounded from your homes, see all your family members raped and killed before your very eyes, be forced to flee your country in a pathetic wooden boat, only to be stranded in international waters for another country to tell you, "Fuck off we're a small country, go away, we're full, we're not obliged to help you. I don't care if you die."
Direct your anger at them, not the 40 Rohingya refugees!

Here's the bit which pisses me off the most. The PAP are a bunch of fucking liars. I know that and I hope you my readers, realize that. But the bulk of Singaporeans are indeed stupid enough to believe their lies - WTF. So much for your supposedly great education system, you're just a bunch of gullible fools at the end of the day. Back in the 1970s, during the Vietnam war, Singapore used the excuse, "Oh we're a very small country, we're a tiny island, we can't cope with more people." That was their excuse to refuse Vietnamese refugees and turn away boats full of Vietnamese refugees the moment they entered Singaporean waters. The population of Singapore was just 2.25 million in 1975, when the Vietnam war ended. Was Singapore already full with 2.25 million people?!

What's this you said about Singapore being a very small country that cannot cope with more people? In 2000, the population reached 4 million and guess what the PAP did? Enough people? Hell no, the PAP wants 6.5 million and went into importing overdrive, actively recruiting foreign workers from China to come and work in Singapore. People such as the infamous Sun Xu, the scholar from China who thinks that there are more dogs than humans in Singapore. Singapore is still granting about 80,000 PRs a year and 18,500 new citizens a year. No space? Then why are you rolling out the red carpet for all these foreigners then? More than a third of Singaporeans today are foreign born. There are about 1 million Chinese nationals (PRCs) living in Singapore currently.
So, PAP - what's this you said about Singapore being a small country with not enough space for any refugees? Not even a few thousands from Vietnam or Myanmar? Yet somehow, you've managed to find space for a million PRCs. You're lying. I've come to expect nothing less from PAP - they are a bunch of corrupt liars. But for Singaporeans to be too stupid or blind to look at the statistics and figure out - wait a minute, the numbers don't quite add up here, what the fuck is going on... If you have no space for Vietnamese refugees in 1975 when we had 2.25 million people and we have no space for 40 Rohingya refugees in 2012 when we're trying to reach 6.5 million people... aren't the PAP just a bunch of fucking liars? My question is: why are 60.14% Singaporeans so blind to that fact?

In any case, the PAP have always been in bed with the military junta of Burma/Myanmar. Whilst the rest of the world had imposed economic sanctions on Burma/Myanmar as a response to their appalling human rights situation, the PAP were happily doing business with the military junta - the very government who are turning a blind eye to the genocide of the Rohingyas. Heck, the PAP doesn't give a shit about human rights - given the appalling track record for human rights in Singapore, the PAP are the last people to preach to you about human rights.
Yup, the PAP are not going to nag at you about Myanmar's human rights record

I say bravo to the PAP. It's a triumph of social engineering that would've impressed Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong-Il and Hitler. You've somehow managed to create a generation of Singaporeans who are productive and supposedly well-educated but are still somehow so brainwashed that they are blind to all your lies and hypocrisy. It's a potent mix of making sure that Singaporeans are insecure, immature, lacking in confidence and most of all, stripped of their basic humanity. Bravo PAP. I'm sure your success has even exceed your own expectations. One such brainwashed Singapore is Siow Jia Rui who wrote on Facebook:

Siow Jia Rui there is no reason for Singapore to accept these refugees. Larger countries like Australia or Malaysia have consistently turned away boatloads of refugees. The government cannot even take care of the needs of Singaporeans, what more refugees?

Oh Jia Rui - how brainwashed you are. The government doesn't want to take care of the needs of Singaporeans - it's not being willing to do something is not the same as not being able to do something. The Singaporean government is so rich and has all the money in the world to pay itself such ridiculously high salaries - heck, Obama isn't even as well paid as some of Singapore's politicians. The money is there - the will, however, isn't. Jia Rui, would you rather believe that your government wants to but can't help you -  than to face the truth, which is the PAP doesn't really give a shit about ordinary Singaporeans who have little to offer. Are those the crazy lies you need to tell yourself Jia Rui, just so you can sleep at night without feeling well and truly fucked by the PAP?
Lastly, I know people in Singapore are talking about Palmergate - I really don't give a shit. So he had a mistress and fucked a woman who's not his wife. It's a private matter between him and his family and he has a lot of explaining to do to his wife and child. But at the end of the day, no one died, no one was raped, no homes were burnt to the grown, no one was made homeless and hounded out of his/her home as a result. I couldn't be less interested in Palmergate for that reason - that is why I want to write about the plight of the Rohingyas instead. Let's focus on what is important, please. As usual, please feel free to leave a comment below and share your thoughts on the issue.



27 comments:

  1. for the christians including myself. i have only this to say.

    matthew 25

    41 "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me."

    44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

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  2. "There is only one thing I hope to see before I die and that is that my people should not need expressions of sympathy anymore." Golda Meir after the Evian conference

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  3. Hi LIFT,

    Just a general comment... I always feel terribly sad when I read about people raping, murdering, looting on the back of some excuse like religion, politics etc. What situation makes murder and rape an ok thing to do? None.

    "It's a potent mix of making sure that Singaporeans are insecure, immature, lacking in confidence and most of all, stripped of their basic humanity."

    I hate to do the blame-government-for-everything thing, but I do wonder if the general philosophy of "people get what they deserve and we don't need to help anyone" has left its mark on our people. The poor deserve to be poor because they don't work hard/productively and we can't afford social safety nets, all drug traffickers deserve to die because they got themselves into that situation and we can't afford to let any trafficker go lest our society degenerates , refugees don't deserve our help because they are not Singaporeans and we can't afford it. These are all fallacies and lies, and such selfish ones too.

    There will be people who say that if we start allowing refugees (temporarily or otherwise), it will open the floodgates. I'm tired of the floodgate argument. There is no big bad monster in the dark beyond - prove there will be a floodgate eventuality or cease using this excuse. Moreover, we have the most highly paid politicians in the world, with such impeccable credentials. Surely we are paying them to find brilliant solutions mitigating the downsides of a floodgate situation, not to tell us what they cannot do because the bogeyman is here and there.

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    1. Can I deal with the 'blame the govt for everything argument'? I am going to quote someone off Facebook:

      " we as a nation deserve to be scolded for the actions of our heartless govt., since we are the ones who elected them to represent us, not only in Parliament, but also to the whole world! So, how our govt. behaves, reflects on ALL Singapore!"

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  4. Limpeh,

    First I want to applaud your indignation of Singaporeans' heartlessness and I understand your need to let off steam (the coarse language). I share much of your views on the PAP government's greedy ways. In the mid-80's when the whole world was sanctioning the illegal Burmese military junta our government-linked-companies were having a unchallenged "business opportunity" orgy with them. It was public low profile but I knew it as I was part of it. Weapons, roads, computers, medicine, food, training etc GLC's were all doing brisk businesses with the dictator. It was an ugly merger of corporate and state greed which trumped human rights considerations and was carried out despite we being totally against world opinion. Fast forward 30 years and the government's behavior remains the same. Catherine Lim is right, they cannot change.

    What disappoints me too is that within the 60% government supporters, as the old ignorant and uneducated uncles and aunties die off the younger ones replacing seems to be the educated but selfish, uncaring and greedy types. The PA, CCC's and RC's are all about back-scratching each other. There is a real lack of community and spirituality in today's living. It's casinos and high ministerial pay - good, and helping exploited PRC workers and Rohingya refugees - bad.

    Lastly about Palmergate, I hope you will continue to monitor this and chip in. There is more than meets the eye. We don't care about the hanky panky between horny adults but it might turn out to be another sex-for-favors corruption case. It's still early to write off your interest.

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    It's a bit pricy but it really works - according to my mum comparing her different sons' hairs. I skip their tonics, just the shampoo. Last few years I started taking inexpensive multivits containing Copper and Zinc to help the hair. Don't waste money. Try these two proven tips from me.

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    1. Hi there. I promise I will take another look at Palmergate.

      As for the hair product, I will take a look at that too - I am prepared to embrace my thinning hair lah. I am 36 after all, I am no spring chicken.

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  5. A slight digression, but it's interesting how Aung San Suu Kyi has kept silent about all this. Actually, I'm not surprised. I always thought there was something a bit dodgy about the woman.

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    1. I am very disappointed with her reaction (or lack of) over the Rohingyas. Maybe there's more to meet the eye, but still I'm disappointed.

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    2. Most of her supporters are Buddhists. If she had supported the Rohingyas now, she would lose the majority electorate support and effectively also give up any chance of speaking up for the Rohingyas in future.

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    3. Nothing more than meets the eye... just plain old pragmatism. Or hypocrisy.

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    4. I have heard from certain sources that Aung San Suu Kyi doesn't have time to bother about human rights in Myanmar, and that was said by one of the Karen or Rohingya politicians.

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  6. hi i'm a 17 year old jc student and i was just wondering if you know how i can help these refugees, do you know if there's a number to call for donations like a UN organisation or anything along those lines? thanks!

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    1. Hello vidz. Thanks for writing in. A great place to start is Amnesty International: http://www.amnesty.org/en/refugees-and-migrants I am so heartened and encouraged by your comment. You've made my morning and made me smile. Thank you.

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    2. Also vidz, by reading my blog, you are arming yourself with vital facts about the issue of refugees. There is so much misinformation out there, so many Singaporeans who are so wrong, so ignorant and they spout rubbish about the issue of refugees! So the next time you come across a friend or a family member who says something that's misinformed/misguided, you can correct them and say, "actually you're wrong... let me tell you the truth."

      Thanks.

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  7. Hey Limpeh, you just took the words out of my ass. sometimes i feels that i am living in a country of morons.

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  8. Rohingya refugees have been given the media spotlight recently, but they aren't the only minority group discriminated in Myanmar... I am concerned about the Karen tribe, who has been systematically been driven out of their homelands... Even neighbouring Thailand has stopped them from crossing their borders into refugee camps... I am saddened... As are many Singaporeans (I refuse to believe all of us are like what you described LP... Have some faith in humanity...) I do agree we can do a lot more in the interim stages, such as constructing a facility fit for accomodating refugees on one of our offshore islands... Before deciding on their fates... Providing shelter, food, water and medical help should be of paramount concern before pushing them off to open waters again... Maybe we should have a referendum on this... Could our president call for one?

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    1. I agree with you stating the part about not being the only persecuted minority group. Myanmar itself has a long history of genocide against all minority groups it does not recognise.

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  9. The WSJ reports that...

    Malaysia in Talks Over Fate of Shipwreck Survivors
    By CHUN HAN WONG in Singapore and CELINE FERNANDEZ in Kuala Lumpur

    Malaysia is considering taking in 40 shipwreck survivors believed to be refugees from Myanmar, who have been in limbo this week after the Singapore government denied them entry.

    Malaysia's deliberations over the men saved by a Vietnamese cargo ship come as Singapore authorities declined to admit nine other survivors from the shipwreck who were picked up by a Liberia-flagged freighter after their vessel sank in Myanmar waters.

    For now, both ships and their rescued passengers remain anchored off Singapore's coast after attempts by the Vietnamese ship's owner—the Northern Shipping Joint Stock Co., or Nosco—to seek assistance were turned down by Singapore authorities, highlighting the wariness among Southeast Asian governments to accept asylum seekers from a recent exodus caused by Myanmar's ethnic violence.

    Malaysia is considering accepting those aboard the Nosco Victory after requests by Nosco officials and the United Nations refugee agency, according to Vivian Tan, a Bangkok-based spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

    The Malaysian foreign ministry on Friday confirmed that discussions were under way but didn't provide a timeline for a decision.

    "UNHCR has been in touch with Malaysian authorities and are advocating for them to take these people. UNHCR is ready to help when they disembark" with humanitarian assistance and potentially starting asylum proceedings for those who qualify, Ms. Tan said.

    Read full story here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323981504578179291776768054.html

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  10. There is so much skewed media surrounding this issue I don't even know where to start. There is a good reason why Aung San Su Kyi has not commented on this issue. It is just opening a can of worms and Myanmar has much need for her to focus on many other things. Things that with her effort and attention may actually yield results that can actually help the people.

    I'm sure you will agree that no political situation can be viewed so simplistically. I am so tempted to say "Shame on you LIFT" for prescribing to the popular propaganda with much fact finding. But I will not do that. Because there isn't much facts that can be found simply. The Burmese population are a people so used to untruths in the media that not many have been motivated to write articles or refute what has been portrayed in the media.

    The issue of the Rohingya is so steeped in history and other complications that not many bother to find out the facts behind the issue. Pointing fingers is always so much easier. You have said that these Rohingya refugees are not economic migrants. That is not true. For ages, every monsoon season, farmers from Bangladesh will come to the fertile lands of Rakhine through land contract with locals and return to Bangladesh after the monsoon season when their lands in Bangladesh are no longer flooded.

    In the recent decades, more and more have stayed behind after the monsoon season is over. Many may think that being a third world country, there is no reason why these bangladesh would want to migrate to Myanmar. But that is exactly what they are, economic migrants because third world Myanmar Rakhine state is still better than third world Bangladesh state where they come from. They are illegal immigrants.

    Myanmar is made up of many many races and tribes. The Rakhine state is made of Arkanese, the original Rohingya. My grandfather is one of them. The "rohingya refugees" in the media are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. They are forcing the real Burmese Rohingyas out of their own land. Myanmar has so many problems and through bribing many of these illegal immigrants have obtained identity cards that state there are Burmese but they are not. They have stayed illegally and have children born here also with bribed identity card but they are not citizens.

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  11. Singapore may be giving out citizenship like freebies but third world or not, the central Burmese government does not give out citizenship to illegal immigrants. That is why they are stateless and has no passport. Because they do not belong there. They carry put riot and are asking to become a separate state from Myanmar after they come and force Burmese out of their rightful land.

    I will not deny that there is real problem there. A country too big with too many problems for a inefficient government. Morally, I am saddened by the violence there. But lets call a spade a spade.

    The violence there is not about religion or ethnicity or genocide. It's a fight between locals and illegal immigrants. It's is how Singaporeans feels about the PRC issue here. But due to the efficiency of the police here, there is not violence yet, only an underlying unhappiness. The Rakhine state issue has been on for decades and it's about a people who feel forced out of their own land by illegal immigrants who are insisting that the land should be giving to them based on the sole reason that they have occupied it for decades.

    Although Myanmar is a Buddhist majority, for most states, it is more a mixture of local traditions and tribal beliefs. It is not some religious wars as portrayed or some genocide. It is a people so pushed and left on their own that every little friction ignites a retaliation.

    Whatever you may feel about Singapore refusing these refugees, these people made their choices. They are not Burmese who are denied rights simply because they are Muslim. I have many Burmese Muslim friends who have equal rights as all other Burmese (however limited these rights may be in comparision to other countries). They "rohingya refugees" of the media are denied rights because they are illegal immigrants. Economic illegal immigrants who chose to come to Myanmar thinking that they will be able to bribe their way into citizenship and failing. They continue to stay and hope that over time they will be given citizenship. That is also their choice.

    Now they are being pushed out. But they have nowhere to go back as well. People can differ on their view morally. That perhaps Myanmar should accept these people after so many year. That is a whole different issue.

    Insinuating that Burmese are kicking out their own people just because they are of a different religion is ridiculous. Many people read your blog LIFT. I love reading it very much. However, in this issue, you have chosen to only look at what's on the surface without digging further into the facts. These stranded refugees deserve help. But flaming the Burmese for the choices of these refugees is not going to warm the hearts of the Burmese to accept them. The real Arkanese of the Rakhine state like my grandfather are the real ethnic minority being driven out out their own land.

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    1. Thanks for providing another side of the story, would you like me to do a separate post highlighting your side of the story? You'll be a guest writer if you like on my blog, I'd like to give you a chance to share your side of the story. I could simply cut and paste the two comments above into an article.

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    2. Thank you for replying to my angsty verbal diarrhea. I didn't even realise I've been holding it this long. I have no wish to churn out an edited piece after the above release.

      Feel free to cut and paste or ask question.

      Guess at the end of the day, all I wanted to say was that it is sad that people are fighting. But it's a fight between people trying to make their lives better. It's not a fight over religion or ethnicity. It's just that people on each side happen to be of different religion, ethnicity, language & culture.

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  12. Hi LIFT

    I don't normally comment on others' blogs, but I happened to come across this post linked from FB.

    What's happening to the Rohingya is undoubtedly a tragedy.

    But while I'm no expert on human rights or immigration affairs, I can quite easily understand the government's reluctance with regards to refugees. It's obviously not as simple a decision as "Well I'm sure we have room for just 40 more..." Once again, I'm no expert, but I can appreciate the fact that the Rohingya question is rather complex. ASSK's reticence on the matter itself speaks volumes, though our government's considerations about the matter are probably quite different.

    I'm glad you're speaking out and educating others about the Rohingyas' plight, but I'm also glad you're not a government policy maker, or politician for that matter.

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    1. It's probably best if you read my latest post about the PAP's lies on the issue of immigration: http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/paps-lies-numbers-just-dont-add-up.html

      I am not a government policy maker nor a politician - but I believe that policies and decisions should be based on facts and truths, rather than a pack of lies that the PAP weave and twist to suit their purpose. It's amazing that they actually get away with it because Singaporeans are either too stupid or gullible (probably both) to confront the pack of bullshit lies they are presented with.

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    2. not only lies about immigration

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  13. Hello Alex,

    I am not sure if you have caught the latest season of "Go back where you came from" - a series on refugees by SBS.

    The Rohingya story is really heart breaking.

    I wish the world can be a kinder place...

    Thank you for raising awareness to this!
    J

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