I accept your challenge.
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My spare time in my school days in Singapore was spent doing sport and little else - but I did achieve enough impressive results in it to help set me apart and give my CV just enough sparkle to make people sit up and go, "hey, this guy is a former national champion gymnast". The world was a very different place back then in the late 80s and early 90s - most of all, it was before the era of the internet and mobile phones. I have heard parents complain that their kids are very distracted by things like Facebook and Twitter and they would have to keep their kids in a technology free zone to force them to study. That's a terrible approach, this is the parent thinking, "Well, I didn't have all this Facebook and social media crap when I was a student, so I will turn back the clock for my children and make them study the same way, 80's style".
Wrong wrong wrong. Even if that approach did work for you back in the 1980s, you shouldn't impose it in your children for the simple reason that it is 2012 today, not 1984. Trying to impose the 80's on your child will only lead to resentment and alienation and widen the generation gap - it is ultimately counter-productive. It's one thing to share your 1980s music with your child, it's another to inflict your 1980's student experiences on your children!
This is why I think Young Rewired State 2012 is such a brilliant event because it is giving the teenagers (some as young as 13) the chance to function like working adults and work with their peers. There are no 'teachers' per se, only mentors who are instructed not to treat the teenagers like students, but adult peers who need help, rather than spoon-feeding. The event is sponsored by some of the biggest names in the industry: SAP, Three, GoSquared, Cloud Foundry, Google and DXW - so clearly, they have a vested interest in trying to nurture the next generation of coders.
You know what pisses me off about this very stupid Singaporean approach? You guys are losing sight of the long term goal - the long term goal of education is to prepare the student for the working world, so that the student may be equipped with the right kind of skills to get a job when s/he leaves full time education - not to simply get the most number of As possible in order to qualify for the best university. Duh. That is why you have the problem in Singapore where graduates are unable to find gainful employment because they were simply not geared up for the working world as a student.
And do you know why this is the case? Whilst there may be younger teachers entering the profession all the time, the people at the top of the food chain in MOE (and the private schools) are all ... well, for want of a better word - old. I'm not being ageist and this is a speculation at best, but yeah, I am speculating that the MOE is run by old fogies who simply don't get modern technology and most importantly, are very stubborn and set in their ways about what education should be. They are old dinosaurs who refuse to evolve and it's painful to think that we have to wait for them to die (or retire) before someone younger can come in and shake up the whole system to bring it into the 21st century.
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The crux of the problem is that these old dinosaurs are blissfully unaware of just how out of step they are with the needs of young students today - they think, "I'm not ignorant. I am on the computer all the time, I have a smart phone, I know about the internet." Yes, but there is a big gap between using a computer and understanding computer works - which is why coding is so important for children and I am shocked that it is not a part of the curriculum in Singapore today. These dinosaurs don't know about coding - and so they deem it unimportant or irrelevant, which is a terrible mistake because they are only looking at the world from their point of view, a kind of 井底之蛙 tunnel vision.
Furthermore, IT professionals tend not to end up in teaching. There is a gulf between the world of teachers and the world of IT crowd. The thing is that the most ambitious IT professionals think, "I am going to invent the next app that is going to make me millions!" They don't think, "I'm going to not invent anything new but end up teaching in a secondary school." What you do end up with are the IT professionals who are probably unable to get a job either with a big name in the industry or get jobs interdependently as a contractor - and they think, "oh shit I have got to pay the bills", so they end up teaching. Sorry if that's a bit of a grim picture I am painting but there you go.
Granted not every child will go into IT as a career, but surely some attempt should be made to teach coding to students in Singapore and if they are good at it, then they should have the option to do it as an A level subject - as is the case in Britain where ICT is a popular 'A' level subject. It is a brilliant way to show students something that is pretty darn close to the working world, given how so many IT professionals do coding for a living. C++ should be offered alongside foreign languages in the curriculum whilst the hardcore academic subjects like maths, physics and chemistry should evolve into a kind of applied engineering science, rather than a strictly academic exercise based around memorizing chunks of facts and formulas.
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To make the problem worse, Singaporean parents are too... I was going to use the word rigid but actually the word stupid is far more appropriate. Yeah they're too bloody stupid (truth be told!) to question how wrong the system is and bludgeon their poor kids through this very warped system even though it is not going to do their kids much good in the long run. Perhaps it's not so much the relative intelligence or stupidity of the parents - but it's just this Singaporean mentality not to question the system, to 乖乖听话 and follow the rules that create such bad parents in Singapore. It is not in the Singaporean nature to question the system, even when it is shockingly bad. Heck - at least 60.14% of Singaporeans are precisely like that.
Indeed in some good schools in some countries, IT is already a vital part of the students' education from a young age but if your child is not lucky enough to be in such a school, rather than spend all this time and money on all this pointless, useless tuition - why not give your child the chance to learn something far more useless and practical in the long run like coding, which is not taught in school but may well lead to a future career in IT for your child?
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I wonder if there are any junior hackathon events like Young Rewired State 2012 in Singapore which will give teenagers a chance to gain such valuable experiences - if so, do leave a comment and let me know. Such events are so good for young people, to have the chance to code alongside industry experts and be mentored by working professionals - man, I wish I had that opportunity when I was a teenager and get close to the working world.
So there you go parents, seek out opportunities like that for your children to get them ready for the working world - tuition does little to help children prepare for the working world for it only wraps them up further in the world of books, homework, exams and school, alienating them from the working world. In fact, the only career that schools and tuition may prepare a child for is that of teaching - be it as a teacher in a school or as a tuition teacher. So if you want to be a teacher - fine, but for the rest who do not desire to enter the noble profession of teaching, please, let's prepare them for the working world.




A quick comment, I thought about what your message was and I agree in spirit.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I can also understand where the local parents are coming from (of the children falling into the average and below average part of the bell curve) - they ARE preparing their children for the Singapore working world, where:
a) for the majority, one probably can't get anywhere without an academic certificate and these days that means a degree;
b)without that piece of paper, the chances of earning a somewhat passable living is pretty damn hard.
c) obviously the system is skewed to allow those with a degree to earn a somewhat passable living, and those without, well life really isn't easy
I appreciate and definitely agree that parents should definitely prepare their kids for the working world and expand their capabilities and interests; but the bludgeoning of kids into education seems to be a necessary reaction of the system (education and social). Unless the system changes, I can't see any major changes to the behaviourial trend of the parents.
Hi MSO,
DeleteMy point is not so much that they should pick these somewhat quirky or innovative over O & A levels, but let's put it this way: if the student has say approx 4 hours a week spare on top of everything he is doing, how should those 4 hours be spent?
1) Tuition - to try to get better grades
2) Do sports
3) Do something quirky and non-academic like coding
4) Play computer games or hang out in the mall
5) Go for music lessons (eg. piano)
I have a feeling that right now, the most option is 1), followed by 4), then 2) and then 5) and people doing 3) are extremely rare.
My point is that parents seem to focus entirely on tuition on don't even see the other options available whilst I feel that they should open their eyes to these alternatives for that extra 4 hours or so - after all, the parents do want to give their children an edge over the competition and this is a very modern, high-tech way to do so.
Ah I wasn't thinking along the lines of replacing core subjects with cool quirky subject, allow to explain the comment. I think what you mentioned applies for children in the above average part of the bell curve. There can actually be time for them to do items 2-5 (not to mention the brain power/commitment to do those things, except maybe hanging out in the mall). And in reality, I see many parents now cramming their kids with 5) and stuff like drama class etc. But I also notice this is only true for very young kids of ages below 5.
DeleteThe moment the kid goes to school and proves himself to be in the wrong end of the curve, the desperate priority was to get them back into the system. Because the alternative is just too scary to contemplate. In a way, the recent Olympic hullabaloo exemplifies the local thinking - how many parents here are willing to let their kids take up the sportsman route. One injury and the career is done, vs take up the academic route and lead a fairly stable life. In Singapore the stakes are high - being a tradesman here is a tough life.
So all in all, yes I think parents here should encourage their kids to explore alternative interests that may open up career routes or develop their soft skills etc for the working world. But for the kids who are underachievers (sorry, harsh term I know), I think this remains a tough decision for parents to make. The easy (and "safe") route is still to spend all the time bludgeoning them into "achievers" or at least keeping up with the rest.
I see what you mean. I do feel really sorry for the kids who are deemed "underachievers" who are punished for not being straight-A students. They could be learning something useful, doing sports or even just chilling with their friends; but instead they are being punished with endless tuition.
DeleteTurns out that there is a silver lining in every cloud.
DeleteMy older boy's growing-up predicament was a blessing in disguise to our family.
He is too bright to be mentally crippled, but too unconventional in his mental wiring to succeed in the hamster-wheel education system.
And as we struggle by his side through his difficult childhood, I came to realise that our children reflect us, their parents, also being square pegs in round holes.
So while society might think us as a half-empty glass "damned if we do, damned if we don't", since we can never conventionally 'climb' in life, by way of our family 'oddness', we instead are working effectively on the half-full glass.
We have already survived so many decades, my wife and I separately before we met, and together with our children later on, precisely we enjoy less crowded, even more viable paths less travelled.
Our being unable to succeed in the rat race opens us up to many sidestreams which Singaporeans would rather choose not to see.
I believe LIFT can understand what I just summarised, in the light of his own versatile experiences.
For other local folks who can't make sense of my babble here: sorry, people, it's not in this subject syllabus, so there are no question hints, or exam tricks.
Oh well, it's true that the education system sucks here. I am studying in a junior college in Singapore and has observed several interesting reasons which have allowed this education system to perpetuate. Firstly, there are several kinds of students in school, i will differentiate them into the nerds and the non-nerds. Oh well, the nerds are just the nerds, they study 24/7/365, and trust me, they are really really dedicated to their studies, willing to sacrifice everything on the line for it. Well, it isn't that bad to be hardworking, but I believe that a balance is needed and that the law of marginal return will set in sooner or later.
ReplyDeleteThen, there is another group of ppl, the non -nerds and i would out myself in this category. Firstly, I believe that I am a far more interesting guy than the typical nerd, i may not have stellar results but i dare to question teachers in class. I am more streetwise than most of my peers and if I have an opinion, i will voice it out. I am well-versed in current affairs and history when compare to most of my peers, albeit I would say that there are quite a number of students who are also keen on these stuffs out there. For example, one Girl in my class didn't understand the term monarchy. I can find even funnier example but it just happen to slip my mind. Next, i do a lot of sports and i am a breakdancer. I may not be the national champion, but hey, at least that's a good start.
Let's talk abt the subjects that we are taking in JC. I am in arts stream and i am taking the subject combination of history, econs, lit, math and gp. Just the other day, my friend and I were talking about the relevance of the subjects we are taking now with regards to the working world. Honestly, only gp will serve some sorts of purpose for us next time. It tests the competency of your English language and also teaches one how to express his own argument. But, it helps to only to a certain extent, everytime before gp exams, I see ppl memorising statistics and stuff and i will go like, how does the regurgitation of the fact that china has poverty rate Of 33% help me in the future? I can bloody google that next time. (note : I made up the figures, didn't bother to Google because I am using my phone to type this). So, the education system doesn’t really prepared us for the future.
Next, let's talk about the predicament of the non nerds. For me, i am ambivalent about school, i know that the education system doesn’t prepared us well for the future, but what are the alternatives? As you have mentioned earlier on, getting a good A level result and going to a good uni is essential for one’s career and job prospect. Thus, i have to study. And the sight of the nerds chewing books motivates me to study hard, albeit i aim for quality instead of quantity, which has allowed me to pursue other interests. I take pleasure in winning the nerds in academics because, Hey, these are the nerds and you manage to win them even though you don seem to study as much as them. I know this sound morbid but hey, its me. And honestly, all these studying has taken a toll of my health and mentally well-being, I get tired very easily and we don get much sleep in jc, i sleep at 12 or even later and wake up at 6 everyday. On Saturday and sunday, i will wake up early also to go for my weekly run and etc. On days when I have no homework, when I have the opportunity to sleep in earlier, I will refuse to do so and instead, find something or some work to do instead because if you sleep in early, it just doesn’t feel right. Somehow you feel that its better to be lethargic and tired like the rest of them because, i am kiasu. If you tell your friends that you sleep in early, they will give you the wtf look. Yes, it's true. You may argue that more harsh out there in the working environment and that's what I tell myself all the time, but punishing our body to such a huge extent and causing much lethargic to not only me but also my friends is just to me, way too much.
ReplyDeleteThus, the system is allowed to perpetuate because of the kiasuism that is entrenched in the singapore culture.
Now, moving on to whether there is a need for tuition or not for students. I can proudly say that, I didn't attend a single tuition session after my P6 life and i am vehemently against it. In secondary school, there is absolutely no need for tuition unless, you think you are bloody rich or you are just plain dumb, i am sorry but I have to be frank here. I watched my friends who have math tuition all the time get buried under loads and loads of work all the time but their results do not add up. Maybe English and Chinese language tuition are more justifiable because of the horrific teachers we have in school, especially for Chinese where they spam PRC teachers.I will recommend tuition if you really really really don know how to improve your grades independently but i suggest that you should not rely it.
Now, talk about jc. The subjects are more complex and esoteric. The lecturers are incompetent and boring. You have absolutely no idea wtf are they talking about and you will probably end up sleeping, if you're like me. Nowadays, i don Even attend lectures. BUT BUT BUT BUT as the saying goes "whatever you do, don get caught, "I don mean it literally but rather, you must catch up whatever is taught in class independently and i prefer it this way because the lecturers hae no idea wtf are they talking and they just read from the powerpoint slides. It sucks. And, its very likely that if one were to ignore all your learning and heck care, there will be drastic consequences. There, the tuition centres will come in and say, Hi, I can help you, come and join me and all those typical stuff. If you are really disciplined, there's no need for tuition, abuse your school teacher, you pay your taxes. Basically, this sums up my impress of tuition, i have good and bad teachers and frankly teachers do make a difference but they can only either make it easier or harder for you to ace your results, the bulk of it depends on you anyway.
Anyway, I feel Glad that i am able to raise my point here. Parents, don give your son tuition, motivate them instead, i rather you donate your money than to give it to tuition centres.
ReplyDeleteSry for the rampant errors and misspellings in my comment. I was typing my comment on the phone and didn't bother to edit much.
Thanks!
Thanks for your comments David :)
DeleteMe too, thank you for speaking your heart out, -david hu-.
DeleteI never needed tuition as a student, from kindergarten to postgraduate diploma.
And now, since we have to teach our older boy from home, the relationship is more mentor and apprentice — he can't stand outsider strangers to teach him, either.
And so, the family tradition continues, of learning almost everything on our own, from using desktop PCs in my time, to his mastering today's gadgets.
However, for the sake of income for our young family, I have to teach at a tuition centre.
Still, I look forward to the day when Singaporeans change their mindset, and I can move on to work with people in more innovative and enriching ways.
In a recent comment to LIFT's earlier blog post against tuition, I explained that my greatest satisfaction from giving tuition is not the money (which has consistently not been enough to properly support the family), but the learning friendship between me and my students.
We are on this road to discovery together, as I discover again and again how to help my students unlock their unique study genes, for life.
Even if I have to teach almost exclusively secondary school English, so much of the time.
Society here doesn't trust my intrinsic resourcefulness and natural originality, only my paper qualifications and formal experience.
As a product of the Singaporean education system, I totally agree. I grew up in Singapore, went through the routine, did my A's and I'm now studying in Australia. What I've come to realise is that Singapore's education system does not equip one for the working world. I tried looking for a casual job here, only to find that I lose out in terms of experience because many locals here start working casual jobs at 15. By the time they're 21 (my age), they would've already had 6 years of working experience. On the other hand, even with the gap year I took, I only have a grand total of a year's working experience. The education system and it's inclination towards rote learning does not benefit students when they enter the working world. In the working world, one needs to question and to creatively approach and solve problems. There is no methodical, set route towards problem solving. Singapore needs to take note of that.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment Nicole - believe it or not, my mother actually actively discouraged me from doing part time work as a student as she thought it was distracting me from the task at hand. She used to say, "if I give you the money instead, so you don't have to work, will you spend the time studying instead?"
DeleteWhat is the point of all this endless studying if it is not actually going to lead to you getting a job?
just to play devil's advocate.
ReplyDeletewhen do you say "kids do not know better"? where does the state/parents (or in general authority) draw the line and say "its bad for you, do this instead". enough has been said about the alternatives, everyone really does agree with you. the million dollar question is when will you (clearly subjective and personal) tell the teenager that he/she should get his/her act together and study unsupervised after school?
2 comments, the 1st is bourgeoisie and the 2nd is off topic:
ReplyDelete1) Academic life is a sandbox for adult work life. But a career isn't just about picking up a skill or two (computer programming, for instance). That's a very sg gov approach. I think that school is a place for you to learn how to "learn" and socialize with others because throughout our lives. Unfortunately, sg adopts a very teapot/teacup teaching idealogy.
2) "former national champion gymnast" around 1990, really? I didn't know any gymnasts from that era who were foreigners.
Oh people like you are what they call internet trolls. Kindly get your time line and facts right.
Deletei am a former national champion of SINGAPORE. Let's get the facts out in chronological order.
1976 - I was born in KK hospital, Singapore as a Singaporean baby.
1995 - 1997 - I served national service in Singapore.
1993, 1996, 1997 - I was national champion in Singapore, ie. no. 1 Singaporean in the AA at the Pesta Sukan nationals.
1997 - I moved to the UK and lived in the UK on a Singaporean passport, as a Singaporean student at a British university.
1997 - 2000: I continued to represent Singapore in competitions in the UK and Europe.
2000: I had my last competition, BUSA (now BUCS) 2nd AA in the men's era.
2000: After my last competition, I retired from competitive gymnastics.
2004: I was granted 'permanent leave to remain' in the UK (ie. what Singaporeans know as 'PR' status)
2006: I acquired British citizenship and renounced my Singaporean nationality
So if you are writing from a Singaporean perspective, get your facts right for crying out aloud, Limpeh was born in Singapore, had a pink IC, went to RI and VJC, served NS like the rest of you unfortunate enough to be born male & Singaporean. 1993, 1996, 1997 Pesta Sukan gymnastics, still have those medals in my parents' house in AMK - and what the fuck are you talking about? A national champion means someone of that country being no. 1 - how can the national champion of Singapore be from Malaysia, China, the UK, Japan, Russia or anywhere else for fuck's sake? Is your English really that bad that you don't even grasp the basic concept of nationality? Or are you so bloody stupid that you can't even figure this simple concept out? If you wanna be a freaking internet troll, at least think carefully before you malu yourself like that.
What I did for Singapore gymnastics in the period of late 1980s up till 2000 was all done whilst I was holding on to a Singapore passport. I only ceased being Singaporean in 2006 - so like it or not, for those 3 years, Limpeh was the best you Singaporeans had in those days. And if you were thinking about 1990, that was the year I was national junior champion, ie. the U-14 division at Pesta Sukan, won AA and almost had a clean sweep of the gold medals that year. What the fuck did you ever achieve when you were a gymnast 'alexei nemov'? Did you even make it to the SEA Games? Or were you one of those fucking pathetic kiasu losers who thought, oh no if I didn't go for tuition everyday my mother will be upset. Suck on that you troll. Get your fucking facts right. I am sorry if my fucking brilliance, the fact that I was a better gymnast that you ever were, the fact that I could do all that gymnastics and still get 3 scholarships, is turning you into an internet troll.
Like why would anyone be as bo-liao as to make false claims on a blog like that when the Singapore gymnastics community is so freaking small and everyone knows everyone. I went back to watch the Singapore Open last year and I was like walking back to an old school reunion, meeting everyone whom I've not seen in ages. I'm even personal friends with Lim Heem Wei our olympian gymnast - and oh, you're basing this on your faded memories from 1990? Go fuck yourself.
You remind me of the other fucking internet troll who accused me of photoshopping my ski photos from my ski trip to Austria last year - like that fucked up loser wrote: 'bet you didn't go skiing, you just photoshop those snow photos lah' or something equally lame. Like, who the fuck would be so fucking boliao to do such stupid shit? I bet he was some fucking pathetic singaporean loser who had never seen snow and was so freaking jealous of my ski trip photos that he had to come up with that bullshit just to make himself feel better about rotting away in some corner of singapore in his parents' flat. Bwahahahahahahaha fuck the lot of you.
Oh and don't give me the crap about Feng Tianwei is from CHINA - yes she is from Heilongjiang but she acquired singaporean nationality before she could compete as a singaporean to be the best in Singapore. How could you possibly insinuate that a person who does NOT hold a SINGAPORE PASSPORT and a SINGAPORE PINK I.C. can become a Singapore national champion? Hello? Anyone home? I know Singapore is full of FTs today but it is freaking unreal that you don't know that you have to give someone like Feng Tianwei a Singapore passport and IC before you can crown her national champion. Not only are you a troll, you're a fucking stupid one. Now fuck off back to your parents' HDB flat and rot there.
DeleteAM, I censored your latest comment because I felt you were trying to provoke a reaction but nonetheless, I will make the following points for you.
Delete1. Pesta Sukan required male gymnasts to perform all 6 pieces - the competition was unpopular then as most schools focused on floor, vault, P-bars and only trained their gymnasts to do a simple compulsory high bar routine. It was a big ask to then get these gymnasts to perform a far more difficult high bar routine, pommel horse as well as the rings - many of these schools didn't even have all the facilities. Yes gymnasts from RI benefited from the luxury of better facilities - but I trained with the boys from Chinese High from sec 4 onwards for 2 reasons: I didn't get along at all with the other RI guys and I had made the combined school team by then and was invited to train with the Chinese High team anyway. So I knew the Chinese High system well, they were so focused on winning the national schools title and sacrificed rings & pommels in the process - you could see the dust on their pommel horse I swear. No one touched it apart from me.
Were there more talented gymnasts than me in Singapore in the mid-90s? Of course there were, but such were the rules of the game - you could choose to be a 4-event gymnast (FX, VT, PB, HB-compulsory only) or you could choose to be an all-rounder. I chose the latter as I had set my sights on international competitions way beyond the confines of the school environment in Singapore whilst the others were simply seeing gymnastics as no more than an ECA to do in their spare time. Thus I trained 6 apparatuses and was crowded AA champion at Pesta Sukan 4 times - 3 times as a senior and once as a junior. The Pesta Sukan then was the only competition which allowed Singaporean gymnasts to compete AA and if the 4-apparatus gymnasts tried to do a rings and pommels routine at Pesta, they would've probably scored something like a 1.5 for it whilst I was capable of decent scores even for optional rings, pommels and high bar.
Such were the rules of the game and I chose to be an all-rounder - don't hate the player, hate the game. I didn't like the way the national schools system was organized back then and I sure hope they have changed it for the better today.
And lastly, I was born a Singaporean. My parents both held pink ICs at the time of my birth. I competed as a Singaporean at every single competition back in the day. I only emigrated much, much later in my adult life, long after I had stopped competing. So get that into your thick skull and stop insisting that I wasn't Singaporean back then.